These types of rabbits have been bred for their fur. They actually can die if they are not sheared regularly because they eat some fur when they clean themselves and it makes them sick. So yes, this is more humane than not shearing them at all.
John Craig They get sheared about 4 times a year. It's not that frequent. If they are not sheared they die, very simple. Do you advocate just letting the rabbits die?
OMG YOU PEOPLE WHAT A FUCKING STUPID THING TO SAY. WHAT KIND OF LAUGH DOES IT HAVE. IT SITS IN A CAGE WAITING TO BE SHEARED. IT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE RABBIT TO DIE INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE TORTURE IT HAS TO GO THROUGH. YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK!!!!!
John Craig petaboo much god your a complete idiot and raging like a fucking child! Child (or man-child) caps lock isn't always the answer dear. Keep shearing and hunting! ;)
Ahmed Ahmed Mahdy yup, check the other video on UA-cam the guys where speaking French and at the same time ripping bunny furs while they screamed. It's horrible!!
I don't know why people are hating on her, I thought she was very careful and also very lovely , she pet him the whole time , and you can see that the rabbit it's relaxed. I've seen videos of man ripping their skin off violently and letting them bleed to death. That is cruel not this lovely lady!
Rabbit doesn't show many emotions But is very stressed, turning the rabbit on its back causes it to hibernate, which may be dangerous for it, and this behavior should be avoided
@@hox454 rabbits don't hibernate. Making them get into a trance when you turn them into their back is also a lie. I had a pet angora rabbit, and his fur had to be cut down every two weeks to prevent tangling, which is very harmful for them. They get used to it, and it becomes something relaxing for them, so much that they seem to fall asleep. It's not "hibernating", that's just ridiculous
At first I thought this was terrible and it shocked me. But then I watched it all and thought about it logically. My dog hates having a bath. He whimpers and shakes. But when he has rolled in manure and mud it just has to be done. Sometimes we have to do things that are in their best interest whether they like it or not as long as no pain is caused. Same rules apply for people.
Natalie Houghton The difference here Natalie is that we don't HAVE to do it. We choose to manipulatively breed these rabbits to the extent that they can't manage their huge fur burden. Then we kid ourselves that we are doing them a favour when we put them through the misery of removing their hair for our use. The kindest thing we can do for Angora rabbits is to stop breeding them and take care of those already born. That would be in their best interest. The Angora rabbit fur industry is all about its own best interests. Unluckily for the industry, many of us are not fooled by their propaganda.
This is from a place in New Zealand that harvests the rabbit wool (?) on an industrial scale. The razor she's using is one for shearing sheep (because New Zealand) and they probably custom built the "rack".
My younger brother used to struggle at the barber when he was getting his hair cut. We had to hold him down and restrain him to prevent him from getting hurt. To me, this is very much the same situation. It's clear that the rabbit in this video is not hurt or abused in anyway so stop getting butt hurt. Nuff said
Ren Chan compares this animal abuse to his young brother unwillingly having his hair cut. The differences are many - but the main one is that his little brother has not been exploitatively and purposely bred to grow an unmanageable hair mass. Neither is he shackled at his legs and ankles when his hair is cut. Neither is he stretched out 'to remove his wrinkles', neither is he rotated on a spit-like piece of machinery, neither are his ears purposely pulled or his whole body run over with loud shears. Neither is he bred so that more and more little boys regularly have to go through such a horrific procedure for the rest of their lives. Nuff said.
Honestly, after I saw few videos of rabbits getting their fur ripped out of their skin, I really appreciate a video like this where you can see that there are people who are doing it without hurting the animal... Yeah, it probably wasn't too comfortable to be tied up like this for the rabbit, but it surely wasn't painful. The rabbit would act different if it was...
Yes, definitely a better method of cruelty than having the hair ripped out. Is gentle abuse better than harsh abuse? All abuse and cruelty is unacceptable.
Paul Johnson Well, angora rabbits that are not shaved regularly often die from eating their own fur after they're getting rid of it their own way, so it's kinda hard to tell if this is actually abuse or not...
JaMiskater It is abuse if we keep breeding Angora rabbits for the purpose of using their fur. Rabbits who have not been specifically bred to grow an unnaturally mass of fur do not die from self grooming.
Paul Johnson Dude, don't be that douchebag that calls abuse on a video thats obviously not fucking abuse. Believe it or not, angora rabbits are one of the oldest types of domesticated rabbits in the world. You're saying we should just stop breeding them/kill them off because they grow a lot of fur? What would be more humane for you?? Like miskater said, an un-sheared angora can die from a heat stroke, or something called wool-block. Angora rabbits can't produce hairballs like cats and other animals, so yes leaving them un-sheared can cause wool-block and kill them. there is nothing in this video that is abuse. The woman was gentle and the rabbit wasn't freaking out. Get your fucking head out of your ass.
34Floaty Calm down Floaty. My head and my ass are correctly positioned - I wonder who you are looking at. LOL. Yes, I am saying we should stop breeding Angora rabbits. We bred them to be freaks of nature in the first place. We bred them to grow so much fur that they can't manage it. We bred them to be farmed and shackled and stretched and rotated, all of which = animal abuse. We can stop this cruelty by stopping the breeding. Simple. But Angora exploiters won't stop the breeding because there's money in this lousy industry for them. Luckily, caring people won't buy it, videos like this let the public know what a freakish business it is ,and retail stores are banning it from their product lines. No point in defending a dying trade. Better to hasten its demise.
Animals are designed to deal with certain amount of stress. This woman clearly cares a lot about her bunnies so everyone should just take a deep breath.
This woman cares all right. Of course she cares - the suffering of these rabbits pays her bills. I just took three deep breaths and this is still animal abuse.
+Paul Johnson no it isnt. the rabbit wasnt in pain. if you want to see a true animal abuse, watch how chinese gather wool from angora seriously so if a sheep gets sheared, its an animal abuse? no, its the same thing except angoras are like smaller version of sheep
I recently saw a video of agora rabbit in china wherein its fur being violently being ripped while the rabbit scream in agonizing pain. It gave me nightmares hearing the poor rabbit scream. I hope ethically sourced wools/furs are really ethical. Im always skeptic now whenever the source of the wool/fur is China. This one on the other hand is reassuring as the rabbit is so calm.
To anyone who is vehemently against "animal slavery" you must not have pets because you'd be a hypocrite. When people keep rabbits for fur they have to take great care of the fur every day to ensure its quality (and usually that also means taking good care of the animal in other aspects). I have had angora rabbits for 10 years and they're hard to care for. She says it's SPCA approved and I see why: they found a humane way to ensure that they don't hurt the animal in the sheering process. If it were hurt it WOULD make noise or try to bite even if restrained (UA-cam distressed/hurt rabbit noises). It's 100% true what she said, rabbit skin is papery thin and it takes a skilled hand to cut/sheer while not harming.
It's false that this despicable place is SPCA approved. Make the inquiries to the SPCA (as I did) to know that this is a blatant lie to try to justify treating rabbits in this cruel way. No-one needs to wear Angora - it's simply a money-making business that must be globally outlawed.
The rabbit is fine. If they are scared they squeal and thump their back legs to "warn" others of danger. He was perfectly relaxed as far as I could tell.
Yes, there are many ways of shearing rabbits. All of them abusive and all of them can be stopped if vain people stop trying to be rabbits - by wearing their fur.
Paul Johnson There is no cruelty in this video. And guess what Angoras were bred for they were not bred to be fluffy little pets, they have sweet dispositions because they are so used to human contact. Angora wool when collected properly is a fantastic alternative to synthetic materials the rabbit is not tied up most of the time and this doe does not struggle or show any signs of distress. The animal is not harmed in the least and will feel much better after that coat is off. Please do your research before you jump on PETA's delusional bandwagon. If the coat was left in tact, the rabbit wouldn't be able to run as it wants and could lead to digestive issues from grooming too much of that wool off themselves (wool block). Not to mention matting that pulls at the skin and heat related issues in the summer. Do not spread lies about shearing simply because you have read and watched materials from incredibly unreliable sources. If their main goal is to use shock and generalizations to get people to buy into what they are saying, it is not something that should be taken very seriously. They will do anything to get people to support them, including paying people to purposefully rough up animals it has been done more times than anyone would care to count and is simply wrong.
The problems I see with PETA: They do good work, no doubt, but they make lavish claims and sweeping generalisations condemning anyone who isn't a strict vegan, ultimately discrediting themselves and repelling people from supporting real causes against animal cruelty because they are being dishonest, delusional and sensational. Also, the people working for and supporting them are so emotionally attached, there collective egos could not ever admit they were wrong. And thats all i have to say about that.
Fiori Dragon Firstly - be polite please and do not assume you know me. I do not spread lies and I am on no bandwagon. I simply watch this video and I see clear animal abuse. I have made written contact with the SPCA and it is adamant that it has not approved this procedure. This video most certainly shows animal cruelty and I'm very sorry that you are unable to comprehend that. Some of us are so desensitised in today's harsh egocentric world, that we deny animal abuse even when it is right in front of our eyes. These rabbits should not be bred at all - we have made them freaks of nature so that they carry too much fur for their own comfort. Stop the demand for the fur and the breeding and cruelty stops automatically. Thankfully retail store after retail store is banning the sale of angora products.
Do you know what this woman is talking a bunch of shit because she’s got people around her she’s so acting in full of shit and I see that crap a mile away
As long as it's not hurting the rabbit, it probably loves it because it will feel cooler after being shaved, it's clearly summer in New Zealand at the time when the video was taken. She's pretty gentle with the rabbit and the rabbit is so cute. She's definitely gentler than the sheep sheering guys in one video.
Reading the arguments, I was thinking that it did sound decently humane, especially compared to the alternative methods. However, watching the video, I couldn't help but think "Holy shit that'd be fucking terrifying".
everyone keeps crying abuse. did ya'll miss the first part of the video where she's not even holding the rabbit and it just stands there? I guess not because if it were scared it would have bolted. Rabbits also scream when in pain or scared it doesn't scream at all. These rabbits actually enjoy the contact while being shaved.
Rabbits can make screaming noises, and it's painful to hear. Just wanted to get that out there. This rabbit is absolutely fine, and even the noise doesn't seem to scare it.
If you want to see rabbit abuse then read up about China. They pluck the rabbits fur out while the poor rabbit is screaming then they throw them back in the cage bleeding and in pain. This is no where near as bad as what they do to rabbits in China.
This rabbit is fine, rather this then the poor fella getting "shearing bites". An MILLIONS times better then some countries that rip their fur out in locks while they write an scream in agony. My Oma used to have a small angora rabbit farm an she trained them they get treats afterwards and any rabbits that just did not tolerate the safety restraints were retired into a pet.
After spending literally hours giving my angora rabbit a hair cut, this seems like a much better way of doing things. Mine is a good bunny an sits still for a while, but eventually she gets tired of it. This seems much less stressful for the rabbit (it only takes a couple minutes and then they can go back to playing) and much less stressful for the humans (worried you will cut your pet when they move suddenly to see what you are doing)
I see a woman who loves her bunny, who grows quick/thick,soft heavy,luxurious,warm fur. It looks like bunny is getting both a gentle, vibra-massage and a welcome cooling off. I believe that some bunnies,cats.- even plants - gain relief, even rejuvenation, after periodically releasing a harvest of thick,hot, fast-growth (hair,vegetation/?) Other bunnies may get by with shedding,. This symbiotic relationship works well for both, I see in the tidy/relaxed/ bunny and her words of affection,comfort when she rotated him. I believer we reach conclusions from so many different directions according to our varied life-lessons. Differences are just different. They provide a view into other lovely individuals who are sharing the air. Please remember: Kindness heals!
Yes Jill, kindness heals. And opposite actions to kindness are damaging. Breeding rabbits to the point that they cannot manage their large fur mass is cruel, unnecessary and exploitative. The rabbits and the natural order of the world did not cause this "symbiotic relationship". The rabbits had it forced upon them after humans made sure they grew the huge fur burden you speak of. We don't need fur to survive in a modern world and we have no need to mimic rabbits by dressing like them. I don't see a woman who "loves her bunny". I see a woman who loves the money she gets from farming and exploiting him...over and over and over until he dies. Fortunately, in quick succession, major retail outlets around the world also see the cruelty and are banning angora fur from their product lines. Bring on the kindness - join these stores in stopping the angora rabbit fur industry!
I have a pet rabbit..this would be extremely terrifying to them. Yes this one is pretty calm but does not mean he isnt terrified. This breed does need to be brushed to regularly so it does eat hair while cleaning themselves.
Rabbit is very relaxed. It knows owner wants the best for him/her. There was a stressfull moment when tail area was to be trimmed because it is a very intimate area but other than that it was calm.
It also keeps her in business another point which hasn't been raised. If it wasn't being shaved so severely I'd say a trim was okay, but this just makes the rabbit look bald. No shaving the hair does not make it grow thicker. If that was the case all fine haired peopel would be shaving their heads! :)
I am just wondering what this is like for the rabbits on an industrial level? To meet the demand of angora wool, are the rabbits still treated this gentle? And what happends to these rabbits in nature, would they usually shed the wool naturally over time?
on the industrial level (mostly China and other countries known for animal cruelty) rip the fur off with chunks of skin still attached. lots of rabbits die when harvested in the industrial level due to the abuse. harvesting angora fur can't be done on the large scale quickly without hurting or killing them. it takes time to harvest the wool safely without harming them. she's the fastest person I've seen sheer a rabbit without harming them. also they were bred for their wool, so they'll die if they're not shorn. the wild rabbits they are decended from don't grow enough wool to be shorter harvested
Likely these rabbits would not make it in nature. They would be easy prey as their vision is blocked by fluff. Also they can die of wool block, ingesting their fur as they groom. The fur could catch them in the bramble too.
I can understand why people would be freaked out about this. That machine does look similar to a medieval rack. That said, the rabbit doesn't appear to be stressed so I guess it's ok.
The rabbit doesn't look hugely stressed to me. A bit irritated maybe (ears back in some places), but not really scared, at least as far as I can see... She's not trying to run away or struggle, even though this has happened to her before so she knows exactly what's coming. My rabbit looks a lot more scared than that when I hold her to cut her nails.
this is not cruelty..the rabbit clearly has been conditioned to deal with being shaved and I use to breed rabbits for 4H some of them had no issue with being on their back...some would fall asleep...this is a wonderful video showing how keeping angoras for their fiber..unlike the videos in france and china where they torture the animal
its wrong coz animals where not created to be conditioned.neither where they created to be shaved. the reason God made them with the fair was for their own protection and covering. eishh. taf world..
I think she has a good sence of humour that lover her rabbit. The only bit that made me anxious was when she stretched the rabbit but she clearly loves her rabbit.
Yasmin, if you think this rabbit is "happy", please get to know rabbits more closely. This rabbit cannot express emotion with being tied up, stretched, rotated and unable to move. How you see "obviously very happy" is beyond belief.
I can tell that this method of getting the fur is not as traumatic, but that thing is so LOUD! rabbits are nervous animals, this can't be good for them either.
Thank you lensflair for sharing this video. Interesting! The rabbit was quite relaxed and laid back during the whole process. It's obvious the woman cares about her stock.
The shaving is not inhumane if the skin is not nicked. It's the trussing of the rabbit like a live chicken that is horrible. I live with rabbits and know that simply gently HOLDING some of them is like torture to a rabbit. They're prey animals and are terrified when restrained. Period.
Hi guys, my wife and I live in Palmerston North and have an angora rabbit. Just wondered if there is somewhere close by to give our rabbit a going over? Cheers
some breeds naturally shed, but the fur has to be physically removed since it sticks to the fresh hair. for those breeds brushing and VERY VERY LIGHTLY pulling on the hair will remove the hair that's already fallen out. if the breed of angora you have doesn't shed you'll need to either use scissors or a shear. also unless there is someone more experienced at shearing rabbits than you in the area your better off doing it yourself
I can not believe this. I've sheared rabbits for many years, and there is NO reason for this. I'd NEVER subject my rabbits to this. On my lap, comfy and relaxed is plenty good enough. GOOD GRIEF.
The bunny is not tied up in an abusive way! Sometimes animals need to be sheared due to weather and I'm sure new zealand heat isn't the best for angoras. They are tied up to prevent them from jerking and getting hurt from the buzzer or shears cutting them. I'm sure you'd want a haircut too in the heat if you had all that hair.
Roksana Rahman Tying rabbits up is abusive. Yes, it's true that we have purposely bred these rabbits to carry such unnaturally big fur-loads that they cannot manage it themselves now. How cruel is that? Our obligation now that we have caused this disgraceful cycle, is to care for the existing angora rabbits and to stop the breeding of any more. All suffering will then stop. Be assured, the angora abusers do not remove the rabbit fur out of kindness, to prevent the rabbits feeling hot. The ONLY reason they breed these rabbits and remove their fur, is to get their hands on the cruelly produced dollars.
rkellum35 No, I don't require Xanax or any other anxiety medications. However, compassionate people will naturally feel distress when they investigate the angora rabbit fur industry (or any other abusive/exploitative money-making schemes). That is humane. Sadly, other people will not even recognise the cruelty involved - especially not if they profit from it in any way.
I guess you've NEVER worn a wool sweater? I guess you've never used smartphone, or worn leather shoes, or eaten meat, or drank milk, or driven a car, or rode on a bus, used cosmetics/shampoos, or eaten fish? Face it, you can be as big a hypocrite as you want to be, but the bottom line is that you are just as much responsible for the inhumane aspects of "society" as anyone else. So give the feigned outrage a rest please...unless your name is Nell, and you've lived alone in the woods for your whole life. I'm not saying that there aren't cruel aspects to industry, but THIS shearing of the angora rabbit is NOT one of them...that doesn't make me cruel, it makes you a drama queen. As a rabbit keeper, myself, anyone can tell that the woman shearing is NOT abusing the rabbits.
rkellum35 Goodness - what an outburst - now I understand your interest in Xanax and drama queens. We are not talking about sweaters & smartphones. We are talking about the systematic & manipulative breeding of rabbits so that we can exploit them to wear their coats. We don't need to wear rabbit fur any more than we need to wear a bracelet. Wearing the fur is an unnecessary and cruel whim. But to answer your questions. For 39 years I haven't used a smartphone, worn wool or leather, eaten meat, fish or dairy products, or used products that contain or have been tested on animals. Other animal-abusive aspects of modern life cannot be avoided unless one wishes to live in isolation in a mud hut. In an imperfect world, we do the best we can in a world where animal exploitation is the norm. Choosing not wearing rabbit fur is easy for anyone. Farming angora rabbits and putting them through repeated hair removal processes is abusive. The woman giving the marketing and public relations demo in this video is clearly part of this cruel industry.
I'll be honest, it doesn't look comfy but it's not animal abuse. My one problem is the noise, I wonder if theres a quieter alternative? Rabbits are very sensitive to sound.
At least she doesn’t pull its hairs off and does not hurt the poor thing plus she obviously is trained for THATS day knows what to do as you can see she’s being very careful and
I don't see the problem. Animals aren't people. its unethical to pull the hair out, but you are just shearing them here. I don't think it is unethical to inconvenience an animal or to restrain it or make it do something it doesn't want to do. I believe we have an obligation to let them live their lives in dignity where possible. The animal does not live with those restraints on, but its a once every 3 months ordeal. Simply making an animal do something it doesn't want to do is not abusive.
The angora fur industry is a big problem and it is totally unethical to treat rabbits in this way. You are right on one point though - animals are not humans. Correct. So what? What is happening in this video is definitely not an animal "living her life in dignity". She is living her life with humans farming, caging, poking, prodding, shearing, shackling, rotating, stretching, pulling her...repeatedly throughout her life. And why? So vain humans can try to look as beautiful as the animal they abuse. That is not ethical and it is not a dignified life...for either the non-human animal or the human animal.
So, the needs and wants of human beings are more valuable. They aren't the same. What do you call owning a dog? Are they not shackled. Caged? Why is it not dignified? Because doesn't suit your human sensibilities? It is ethical and dignified.
tenderscootch asks me why I think the farming, caging, poking, prodding, shearing, shackling, rotating, stretching, pulling of angora rabbits repeatedly for the length of their lifespan is not dignified. And then tenderscotch asks me if all of this unethical and undignified cruelty doesn't suit my human(e) sensibilities. If an individual cannot see that this is undignified (not to mention abusive), then the individual has not yet achieved empathy. Empathy comes when the individual is able to put themselves in the place of the victim and to put aside their own needs and greeds. All the best in this journey to compassion and acknowledgement of the suffering of others.
yes, tenderscootch does. its obviously against their will, but so is any form of farming animals. Its brief, and then its over. A once every 3 months event. I mean, I really wasn't asking you. It was a rhetorical question. If you can't or won't say, its ok. But I asked why it was undignified. Just saying "well its obvious" isn't something I or the unevolved people like me can interact with. I have empathy, but they aren't people. They aren't the same as me. It isn't charitable to refuse one's placement in the natural order. Its galling. Not really trying to criticize you, but its more of a counterpoint to the criticism from people like yourself. I raise rabbits for food. The shearing seems like a lot of extra work. They live in a hutch, but they hay, pellets, treats. And then I eat them. I don't find it unreconcilable. They are interesting and funny to watch. Very clean animals. I care for them, and its not like I enjoy killing them. But that is their purpose.
tenderscootch The purpose of an animal is not for human use - just as the purpose of a woman is not for a man's use. Farming, caging, poking, prodding, shearing, shackling, rotating, stretching, pulling of angora rabbits repeatedly for the length of their lifespan is not dignified. If someone is unable to grasp that this is undignified treatment of any creature, they will definitely not understand that it is abusive treatment. When a person achieves empathy, they are aware that it applies beyond one's own species.
I didn't see any pulling-out of arms and legs in this video - maybe you posted your comment in the wrong place, because if there was any arm-yanking I'm sure we would have noticed. Also it is clear from the rabbit's behaviour that he/she was not in any pain. If the rabbit was not restrained in some way he/she could hurt him/herself.
Aw, I can see why people are spazzing out, but the rabbit is completely fine, like one of the top comments says, it would be struggling or making a lot of noise if it was really scared, and it's true that they'd overheat if they weren't sheered.
More good news for Angora rabbits below. :-). Hopefully the New Zealand public and retailers will soon join the boycott of this cruel industry. On 16/10/14 the U.K-based clothing giant, French Connection, posted an announcement on its website stating that it has committed to banning the sale of all products made with angora wool. It previously sourced the angora from sheared rabbits. Customer dissatisfaction has caused the decision to be made. French Connection joins dozens of other companies, including Gap Inc. (which owns Banana Republic, Old Navy, and Athleta), Lands’ End, QVC, and Express, Inc., in banning angora.
Saying that we should never buy angora again because some producers abuse animals is like saying we should all go naked because some clothing makers employ child labor. Over reaction. When done right, angora fiber is very green/sustainable, If you're buying cheap angora garments you're bankrolling cruel fiber producers and probably child labor as well. Ethical clothing production is more expensive. High end retailers use hangtags to let us know where the angora and the garment came from (sometimes with a picture of the bunny).
KG In OREGON Injustices are always slow to be remedied when humans profit from them - by producing, selling or buying. There will always be naysayers and defenders of injustice (the human slave trade is a perfect example). The farming and profiting from angoras will also stop. We can choose to bring this about quickly (as many ethical stores have) or slowly - by creating endless "reasons" for the abuse to continue.
To all those dumb people who think this hurts the rabbit: It doesn't. Its the same as cutting our hair. The rabbit actually enjoys it. If it did hurt, it would scream like hell. An angora rabbit being plucked: THAT is animal cruelty. Not this.
Who relax girl, no need to swear so much! Your parents never teach you that? I have them too. I did my research. I'm well educated. You don't sound like you're well educated.
Deena Menero Might want to reread your comment and the swearing you did so I guess your not educated either. And it's spelled Whoa not Who. smdh I'd demand my money back from whoever educated you so well.
Deena Menero OMG are you this stupid everyday or is today a special day? I know angora's need to be shaved. My problem is the way it's being done and the rabbit tied up like that with it's ears being pulled. Angora's can be easily shaven by holding it on your lap. My Lord if your gonna go against someone and English isn't your native language then you might want to learn it a little better before making stupid statements. Your original post also has swearing in it. No matter what word is said swearing is swearing so get off your hypocritical high horse.
That's terrifying, but not inhumane. Straps means, no cuts afterwards. People if shearing is inhumane then WHY do we shear sheep? As long as the rabbit is not in pain, unlike rabbits being skinned alive. The first time would be terrifying but that's why people start the rabbits when they're young. So when they grow up the rabbits know that the person won't hurt them. The woman is being very careful.
This is not humane. Humane would be to stop breeding these rabbits for a totally unnecessary industry. Choosing profit and vanity over animal suffering is inhumane.
Come on guys the rabbit is use to it. If it was really scared it would have jumped off the table before it got its legs tied. If it was scared it would still be trying to get away. It's not struggling or screaming. It looks more scary then it actually is.
This is much better that they do it in some factorys. Plus, it's healthy for them to get groomed every once in a while so stop saying its abuse cause it's not.
Stephanie LeAnn Rayner Carreia It's abuse. Just because there is more severe Angora rabbit abuse elsewhere, it doesn't make lesser abuse OK. Is rape OK if the victim isn't killed as well? Is it OK if the victim isn't beaten? Is rape OK if the victim is spoken to softly? Is it OK if the victim is silent during the ordeal. Abuse in all its ugly forms should not be defended. The answer is to stop breeding these poor creatures and to boycott Angora products.
Yeah, most of the twitches seemed to happen when she was trimming her tail. Frankly, that's a sensitive area on any animal. It's a 'show me on the doll where she touched you' area. I would twitch myself!
some of you guys are completely, and utterly stupid as hell. if the rabbit was in pain, then not only it would try to escape it would be screaming. this is the most safe/humane way to do it. plus, if you don't keep their fur in good maintenance then it will get matted, and in some severe cases even to the skin. its better to shear them then just leave it there. and its certainly much better to do it this way for everyone's safety. I suggest that some of you learn this stuff before making yourselves look stupid in front of millions and millions of people :P
If vain humans didn't want to wear animal fur, this abusive treatment of rabbits could stop. The angora industry will die a natural death when humans think before they purchase.
Anyone know how I can get the email address of this location? having seen what I have seen about the Chinese method of doing this, this approach seems a 1000% better. if I can get hold of this farm in Waitomo maybe there could be some cross training. it has to be worth a try. Can anyone help?
jasper777777 Hi there Jasper. Sorry for delay in replying. I have been inundated with comments on the Angora rabbit issue and I have been creating leaflets and awareness. I would REALLY appreciate it if you could find the email address or contact address for this lady. Thank you again.
I've been handling rabbits my whole life. I can clearly say that this rabbit was completely calm and content this whole time, and was at no point in pain or in harm's way. People are ridiculously uneducated, calling this 'animal cruelty'.... why don't you drooling morons go discover where you get your hamburgers from? Urgh.
This is definitely not as bad as other angora videos, but when you buy angora sweaters, scarfs or whatever it may be, you still wouldn't know where it came from. Who knows if you bought a sweater from angora factory farms where they aggressively rip the fur right out of the animal. I suggest just leaving angora items on the rack.
you probably got it from angora wool harvested in China (they mass produce the stuff) and they rip the hair and skin off the rabbits there. everything gets covered in blood and a lot of the rabbits die because of it. people like her who harvest it humanely are in the minority
I don't understand all of the negative comments. This rabbit needs to have it's fur cut for a number of reasons and not just to harvest the fur, for medical reasons. Rabbits lie down in that exact position when they are comfortable. Why would they be afraid? She says in the video they start doing this at 3 months of age. Which means they are use to the restraints, which obviously don't hurt them If it did they would be making extremely loud noises. Does anyone making neg comments even own a bun?
That rabbit is scared to death.I will never by clothes with angora again and if nothing else these videos only enlighten us to the horrors we were ignorant to .
It is imperative to remove the bulk of, as well as any loose wool from the rabbit every 3 months in order to prevent wool block. In proper treatment of the rabbit, it is important that the rabbit trusts its groomer. This is why grooming is not for the faint-hearted. A groomer must be confident, yet benevolent. She must be kind as well as tough. This is because not only is she the groomer, to shave the rabbit, she is to be in the place of the rabbit's very own owner- the rabbit's source of solace during what may be a stressful, yet necessary, appointment. Secondly, the shearing room must be both an audibly and visually calm environment. Unlike dogs who have higher tolerance to stress, needing only the comfort and strength of the groomer, rabbits are first and foremost quiet creatures. They cannot be in a busy room. This is why even the shears themselves must be suited for the rabbit, a pair of non-automatic, scissor-type shears, suited for the fiber of angora fur. Treats are also present in the room in order for the rabbit to acquaint itself with the groomer, the table, and everything in the room. Afterwards,the nails should be clipped in order to maintain the rabbit's health. Perhaps even a treat for cooperating so well. The entire process takes about an hour per rabbit. A proper grooming is not what I see here. What i see here, is a a room full of frightening (for a rabbit) distractions- camera flashes from other people, loud noises from the shears sure to scare the crap out of an otherwise docile rabbit, and who knows what else that I can't even see. It certainly doesn't look calm. What I see here, is a rabbit being introduced to a new and perhaps scary environment, without any condolences. What I see here is a rabbit being treated as some sort of circus-act by a groomer with perhaps plenty of confidence and never a drop of kindness. A true groomer knows she can be bitten. And doesn't, because she is kind and she is strong. And I certainly don't see any treats for all this rigmarole the rabbit was just put through. I don't need the ASPCA to call something humane for me. I can tell it's not to my standards. If this video didn't make you cringe, then...well I'd say you're just as bad a groomer as the woman in the video, so there.
It may be SPCA approved but it doesnt make this a 'humane' way (In my opinion) to shave a rabbit. Why they approved this is beyond me. Tying up a rabbit like this or in anyway is disgusting. I have a rabbit and NO WAY would I do this is him.
Although it's tied up, it's not tight where the rabbit will get hurt, this is the safest way possible. Otherwise if the rabbit wasn't tied and was to move around, it could get nicked my the cutters & that would be nasty as. If you want to see inhumane - go see what the asians to do them & it's not shearing, they're ripping the fur off! Now that's sick!
Just a minute of your time. Please check out this website www.angorashearingshed.co.nz/ which is the same place as this video shows. Your comment calling this a "marketing lie" is ungrounded, as they are a small farm in rural New Zealand, obviously family (couple) run and non-industrial. They are in no way trying to "market" their company/farm, and in case you have never travelled to the smaller parts of New Zealand before, many farms do small shearing demonstrations as a culture demonstration, often for a gold coin donation or even free. This video is also not produced by the farm themselves, but a touring visitor. By all means please defend the poor bunnies being harmed in money-hungry industrial scale bunny sweat shops in China being tortured every day in one of the many other videos on UA-cam, but what good are you doing by throwing shade at this kiwi woman with a small farm exporting to nowhere?
Eileen Li Firstly, you wrongly assume I haven't been to see this cruel spectacle. It's a disgraceful marketing ploy - its purpose is to try to win public approval and to peddle its wares. Please check out the "shopping" page of the link you have directed us to and then tell us this company is not marketing its wares. It's a shop and a business for making money - a business which is literally run on the backs of animals. It sells Angora rabbit fur yarns, hats, boleros, scarves, etc. Animal abuse is not acceptable whether it is ripping fur (or feathers) from an animal's body or shackling, stretching, tying, rotating and shaving Angora rabbits. The SPCA has NOT approved this "farm's" methods. That is a false claim.
These types of rabbits have been bred for their fur. They actually can die if they are not sheared regularly because they eat some fur when they clean themselves and it makes them sick. So yes, this is more humane than not shearing them at all.
John Craig you just look like an idiot for saying "people like you dont deserve to live" seriously calm down its her/his opinion
John Craig They get sheared about 4 times a year. It's not that frequent. If they are not sheared they die, very simple. Do you advocate just letting the rabbits die?
OMG YOU PEOPLE WHAT A FUCKING STUPID THING TO SAY. WHAT KIND OF LAUGH DOES IT HAVE. IT SITS IN A CAGE WAITING TO BE SHEARED. IT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE RABBIT TO DIE INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE TORTURE IT HAS TO GO THROUGH. YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK!!!!!
John Craig Are you a vegetarian? If not you just make a fool of yourself...
John Craig petaboo much god your a complete idiot and raging like a fucking child! Child (or man-child) caps lock isn't always the answer dear. Keep shearing and hunting! ;)
Atleast she's shearing and not ripping it off like in other damn countries
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France doing that too?!!
Ahmed Ahmed Mahdy yup, check the other video on UA-cam the guys where speaking French and at the same time ripping bunny furs while they screamed. It's horrible!!
It's New Zealand.
I don't know why people are hating on her, I thought she was very careful and also very lovely , she pet him the whole time , and you can see that the rabbit it's relaxed. I've seen videos of man ripping their skin off violently and letting them bleed to death. That is cruel not this lovely lady!
Because rabbit is lying on his back and is entranced. Looks calm, but is very very stressed.
Rabbit doesn't show many emotions
But is very stressed, turning the rabbit on its back causes it to hibernate, which may be dangerous for it, and this behavior should be avoided
@Grey Greyhound Why?, i dont know much about rabits, so, it is not the same as getting sheep hair?
@@hox454 rabbits don't hibernate. Making them get into a trance when you turn them into their back is also a lie. I had a pet angora rabbit, and his fur had to be cut down every two weeks to prevent tangling, which is very harmful for them. They get used to it, and it becomes something relaxing for them, so much that they seem to fall asleep. It's not "hibernating", that's just ridiculous
Same I saw the vids that there getting there fur out...
At first I thought this was terrible and it shocked me. But then I watched it all and thought about it logically. My dog hates having a bath. He whimpers and shakes. But when he has rolled in manure and mud it just has to be done. Sometimes we have to do things that are in their best interest whether they like it or not as long as no pain is caused. Same rules apply for people.
Natalie Houghton The difference here Natalie is that we don't HAVE to do it. We choose to manipulatively breed these rabbits to the extent that they can't manage their huge fur burden. Then we kid ourselves that we are doing them a favour when we put them through the misery of removing their hair for our use.
The kindest thing we can do for Angora rabbits is to stop breeding them and take care of those already born. That would be in their best interest. The Angora rabbit fur industry is all about its own best interests. Unluckily for the industry, many of us are not fooled by their propaganda.
@@pauljohnson36well we as in humanity, the rabbits that exist because our ancestors made that so means we now have a responsibility.
this is waaaaaay better than how it is done in China. A country where there are no regulations for animal abuse.
And this is why I don’t watch those videos.
This is from a place in New Zealand that harvests the rabbit wool (?) on an industrial scale. The razor she's using is one for shearing sheep (because New Zealand) and they probably custom built the "rack".
My younger brother used to struggle at the barber when he was getting his hair cut. We had to hold him down and restrain him to prevent him from getting hurt. To me, this is very much the same situation. It's clear that the rabbit in this video is not hurt or abused in anyway so stop getting butt hurt. Nuff said
Ren Chan compares this animal abuse to his young brother unwillingly having his hair cut.
The differences are many - but the main one is that his little brother has not been exploitatively and purposely bred to grow an unmanageable hair mass. Neither is he shackled at his legs and ankles when his hair is cut. Neither is he stretched out 'to remove his wrinkles', neither is he rotated on a spit-like piece of machinery, neither are his ears purposely pulled or his whole body run over with loud shears. Neither is he bred so that more and more little boys regularly have to go through such a horrific procedure for the rest of their lives.
Nuff said.
Paul Johnson to bad bunnys are bottom of the food chain bud they die everyday cry all you want
Honestly, after I saw few videos of rabbits getting their fur ripped out of their skin, I really appreciate a video like this where you can see that there are people who are doing it without hurting the animal... Yeah, it probably wasn't too comfortable to be tied up like this for the rabbit, but it surely wasn't painful. The rabbit would act different if it was...
Yes, definitely a better method of cruelty than having the hair ripped out. Is gentle abuse better than harsh abuse? All abuse and cruelty is unacceptable.
Paul Johnson Well, angora rabbits that are not shaved regularly often die from eating their own fur after they're getting rid of it their own way, so it's kinda hard to tell if this is actually abuse or not...
JaMiskater It is abuse if we keep breeding Angora rabbits for the purpose of using their fur. Rabbits who have not been specifically bred to grow an unnaturally mass of fur do not die from self grooming.
Paul Johnson
Dude, don't be that douchebag that calls abuse on a video thats obviously not fucking abuse. Believe it or not, angora rabbits are one of the oldest types of domesticated rabbits in the world. You're saying we should just stop breeding them/kill them off because they grow a lot of fur? What would be more humane for you?? Like miskater said, an un-sheared angora can die from a heat stroke, or something called wool-block. Angora rabbits can't produce hairballs like cats and other animals, so yes leaving them un-sheared can cause wool-block and kill them. there is nothing in this video that is abuse. The woman was gentle and the rabbit wasn't freaking out. Get your fucking head out of your ass.
34Floaty Calm down Floaty. My head and my ass are correctly positioned - I wonder who you are looking at. LOL.
Yes, I am saying we should stop breeding Angora rabbits. We bred them to be freaks of nature in the first place. We bred them to grow so much fur that they can't manage it. We bred them to be farmed and shackled and stretched and rotated, all of which = animal abuse.
We can stop this cruelty by stopping the breeding. Simple.
But Angora exploiters won't stop the breeding because there's money in this lousy industry for them.
Luckily, caring people won't buy it, videos like this let the public know what a freakish business it is ,and retail stores are banning it from their product lines.
No point in defending a dying trade. Better to hasten its demise.
Animals are designed to deal with certain amount of stress. This woman clearly cares a lot about her bunnies so everyone should just take a deep breath.
Wow common sense, a rare commodity on UA-cam.
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***** yup. someone who is finaly smart :3
This woman cares all right. Of course she cares - the suffering of these rabbits pays her bills. I just took three deep breaths and this is still animal abuse.
+Paul Johnson no it isnt. the rabbit wasnt in pain. if you want to see a true animal abuse, watch how chinese gather wool from angora
seriously so if a sheep gets sheared, its an animal abuse? no, its the same thing except angoras are like smaller version of sheep
I recently saw a video of agora rabbit in china wherein its fur being violently being ripped while the rabbit scream in agonizing pain. It gave me nightmares hearing the poor rabbit scream. I hope ethically sourced wools/furs are really ethical. Im always skeptic now whenever the source of the wool/fur is China. This one on the other hand is reassuring as the rabbit is so calm.
To anyone who is vehemently against "animal slavery" you must not have pets because you'd be a hypocrite. When people keep rabbits for fur they have to take great care of the fur every day to ensure its quality (and usually that also means taking good care of the animal in other aspects). I have had angora rabbits for 10 years and they're hard to care for. She says it's SPCA approved and I see why: they found a humane way to ensure that they don't hurt the animal in the sheering process. If it were hurt it WOULD make noise or try to bite even if restrained (UA-cam distressed/hurt rabbit noises). It's 100% true what she said, rabbit skin is papery thin and it takes a skilled hand to cut/sheer while not harming.
It's false that this despicable place is SPCA approved. Make the inquiries to the SPCA (as I did) to know that this is a blatant lie to try to justify treating rabbits in this cruel way. No-one needs to wear Angora - it's simply a money-making business that must be globally outlawed.
iEatEmos people need water, food and shelter. Not fucking rabbit fur. This shit is cruel as fuck.
iEatEmos don't have God dam rabbits if you can't care for them.
The rabbit is fine. If they are scared they squeal and thump their back legs to "warn" others of danger. He was perfectly relaxed as far as I could tell.
Quite a stark difference from the PETA gore movies in China.
Yes, there are many ways of shearing rabbits. All of them abusive and all of them can be stopped if vain people stop trying to be rabbits - by wearing their fur.
Paul Johnson There is no cruelty in this video. And guess what Angoras were bred for they were not bred to be fluffy little pets, they have sweet dispositions because they are so used to human contact. Angora wool when collected properly is a fantastic alternative to synthetic materials the rabbit is not tied up most of the time and this doe does not struggle or show any signs of distress. The animal is not harmed in the least and will feel much better after that coat is off. Please do your research before you jump on PETA's delusional bandwagon. If the coat was left in tact, the rabbit wouldn't be able to run as it wants and could lead to digestive issues from grooming too much of that wool off themselves (wool block). Not to mention matting that pulls at the skin and heat related issues in the summer. Do not spread lies about shearing simply because you have read and watched materials from incredibly unreliable sources. If their main goal is to use shock and generalizations to get people to buy into what they are saying, it is not something that should be taken very seriously. They will do anything to get people to support them, including paying people to purposefully rough up animals it has been done more times than anyone would care to count and is simply wrong.
The problems I see with PETA: They do good work, no doubt, but they make lavish claims and sweeping generalisations condemning anyone who isn't a strict vegan, ultimately discrediting themselves and repelling people from supporting real causes against animal cruelty because they are being dishonest, delusional and sensational. Also, the people working for and supporting them are so emotionally attached, there collective egos could not ever admit they were wrong. And thats all i have to say about that.
Terance Cape or course you aren't Terance.
Fiori Dragon Firstly - be polite please and do not assume you know me. I do not spread lies and I am on no bandwagon. I simply watch this video and I see clear animal abuse. I have made written contact with the SPCA and it is adamant that it has not approved this procedure. This video most certainly shows animal cruelty and I'm very sorry that you are unable to comprehend that. Some of us are so desensitised in today's harsh egocentric world, that we deny animal abuse even when it is right in front of our eyes. These rabbits should not be bred at all - we have made them freaks of nature so that they carry too much fur for their own comfort. Stop the demand for the fur and the breeding and cruelty stops automatically.
Thankfully retail store after retail store is banning the sale of angora products.
She was so calm, didn't even care. I keep rabbits and they will let you know when the slightest bit grumpy!
The rabbit seems calm. If they're used to this i don't think it's so bad.
The rabbit is so calm, there's a trust and care there! :) They are hilariously fluffy before they get sheared!
This method is far more civilized and humane than the Chinese method. Great video!
Yes it is. And both methods should be banned.
In China kill the rabit?, or its like a sheep hair?
@@user-kx9so7ju6m it's like sheep hair
Fuck china
Do you know what this woman is talking a bunch of shit because she’s got people around her she’s so acting in full of shit and I see that crap a mile away
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Erg naar om te zien
Mijn angora zit gezellig op de keukentafel tijdens scheren
As long as it's not hurting the rabbit, it probably loves it because it will feel cooler after being shaved, it's clearly summer in New Zealand at the time when the video was taken. She's pretty gentle with the rabbit and the rabbit is so cute. She's definitely gentler than the sheep sheering guys in one video.
Reading the arguments, I was thinking that it did sound decently humane, especially compared to the alternative methods. However, watching the video, I couldn't help but think "Holy shit that'd be fucking terrifying".
everyone keeps crying abuse. did ya'll miss the first part of the video where she's not even holding the rabbit and it just stands there? I guess not because if it were scared it would have bolted.
Rabbits also scream when in pain or scared it doesn't scream at all. These rabbits actually enjoy the contact while being shaved.
Rabbits can make screaming noises, and it's painful to hear. Just wanted to get that out there. This rabbit is absolutely fine, and even the noise doesn't seem to scare it.
From wut I'm seeing she is pulling the bunny's ears and it can be quite pain and the bunny is shaking but it's not making any noise isn't it strange?
If you want to see rabbit abuse then read up about China. They pluck the rabbits fur out while the poor rabbit is screaming then they throw them back in the cage bleeding and in pain. This is no where near as bad as what they do to rabbits in China.
yah realy
This rabbit is fine, rather this then the poor fella getting "shearing bites". An MILLIONS times better then some countries that rip their fur out in locks while they write an scream in agony. My Oma used to have a small angora rabbit farm an she trained them they get treats afterwards and any rabbits that just did not tolerate the safety restraints were retired into a pet.
After spending literally hours giving my angora rabbit a hair cut, this seems like a much better way of doing things. Mine is a good bunny an sits still for a while, but eventually she gets tired of it. This seems much less stressful for the rabbit (it only takes a couple minutes and then they can go back to playing) and much less stressful for the humans (worried you will cut your pet when they move suddenly to see what you are doing)
Are you without the heart?
I see a woman who loves her bunny, who grows quick/thick,soft heavy,luxurious,warm fur. It looks like bunny is getting both a gentle, vibra-massage and a welcome cooling off. I believe that some bunnies,cats.- even plants - gain relief, even rejuvenation, after periodically releasing a harvest of thick,hot, fast-growth (hair,vegetation/?) Other bunnies may get by with shedding,. This symbiotic relationship works well for both, I see in the tidy/relaxed/ bunny and her words of affection,comfort when she rotated him.
I believer we reach conclusions from so many different directions according to our varied life-lessons. Differences are just different. They provide a view into other lovely individuals who are sharing the air. Please remember: Kindness heals!
Yes Jill, kindness heals. And opposite actions to kindness are damaging. Breeding rabbits to the point that they cannot manage their large fur mass is cruel, unnecessary and exploitative. The rabbits and the natural order of the world did not cause this "symbiotic relationship". The rabbits had it forced upon them after humans made sure they grew the huge fur burden you speak of.
We don't need fur to survive in a modern world and we have no need to mimic rabbits by dressing like them.
I don't see a woman who "loves her bunny". I see a woman who loves the money she gets from farming and exploiting him...over and over and over until he dies. Fortunately, in quick succession, major retail outlets around the world also see the cruelty and are banning angora fur from their product lines.
Bring on the kindness - join these stores in stopping the angora rabbit fur industry!
nice video..
how oft or till what age of the rabbit, you can shear the rabbit?
do you have a lot off rabbits??
Did you come up with the thing that you hold the rabbit in or did you buy that some were?
I have a pet rabbit..this would be extremely terrifying to them. Yes this one is pretty calm but does not mean he isnt terrified. This breed does need to be brushed to regularly so it does eat hair while cleaning themselves.
This was really interesting to watch!
Rabbit is very relaxed. It knows owner wants the best for him/her. There was a stressfull moment when tail area was to be trimmed because it is a very intimate area but other than that it was calm.
It also keeps her in business another point which hasn't been raised. If it wasn't being shaved so severely I'd say a trim was okay, but this just makes the rabbit look bald. No shaving the hair does not make it grow thicker. If that was the case all fine haired peopel would be shaving their heads! :)
this is wonderful. so much better then doing it with out how do I get one of these tables
I am just wondering what this is like for the rabbits on an industrial level? To meet the demand of angora wool, are the rabbits still treated this gentle? And what happends to these rabbits in nature, would they usually shed the wool naturally over time?
on the industrial level (mostly China and other countries known for animal cruelty) rip the fur off with chunks of skin still attached. lots of rabbits die when harvested in the industrial level due to the abuse.
harvesting angora fur can't be done on the large scale quickly without hurting or killing them. it takes time to harvest the wool safely without harming them. she's the fastest person I've seen sheer a rabbit without harming them.
also they were bred for their wool, so they'll die if they're not shorn. the wild rabbits they are decended from don't grow enough wool to be shorter harvested
Likely these rabbits would not make it in nature. They would be easy prey as their vision is blocked by fluff. Also they can die of wool block, ingesting their fur as they groom. The fur could catch them in the bramble too.
I can understand why people would be freaked out about this. That machine does look similar to a medieval rack. That said, the rabbit doesn't appear to be stressed so I guess it's ok.
The rabbit doesn't look hugely stressed to me. A bit irritated maybe (ears back in some places), but not really scared, at least as far as I can see... She's not trying to run away or struggle, even though this has happened to her before so she knows exactly what's coming. My rabbit looks a lot more scared than that when I hold her to cut her nails.
Wow
i don't understand why people are upset here, go watch videos about how china gets fur from rabbits
This is the least cruel way Ive seen this done, if I get an Angora rabbit as a pet I might do this.
this is not cruelty..the rabbit clearly has been conditioned to deal with being shaved and I use to breed rabbits for 4H some of them had no issue with being on their back...some would fall asleep...this is a wonderful video showing how keeping angoras for their fiber..unlike the videos in france and china where they torture the animal
its wrong coz animals where not created to be conditioned.neither where they created to be shaved. the reason God made them with the fair was for their own protection and covering. eishh. taf world..
Children can "be conditioned" to deal with molestation too - that does not make it OK.
are you serious ?
what about horses ? they can be conditioned to be ridden right ?
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Unfortunately people can be conditioned to overlook animal abuse... especially if they profit in some way from its continuance.
your ignorant in so many ways
I think she has a good sence of humour that lover her rabbit. The only bit that made me anxious was when she stretched the rabbit but she clearly loves her rabbit.
My cat kicks up more of a fuss when I clip his toenails. This rabbit is obviously very happy.
Yasmin, if you think this rabbit is "happy", please get to know rabbits more closely. This rabbit cannot express emotion with being tied up, stretched, rotated and unable to move. How you see "obviously very happy" is beyond belief.
I can tell that this method of getting the fur is not as traumatic, but that thing is so LOUD! rabbits are nervous animals, this can't be good for them either.
Its just the same as sheep shearing people.... you don't call that animal cruelty do you??? If anything its more stressful for the sheep!!!
What does eating meat have to do with harvesting the wool from a rabbit? Are you on the right video?
Thank you lensflair for sharing this video. Interesting! The rabbit was quite relaxed and laid back during the whole process. It's obvious the woman cares about her stock.
The shaving is not inhumane if the skin is not nicked. It's the trussing of the rabbit like a live chicken that is horrible. I live with rabbits and know that simply gently HOLDING some of them is like torture to a rabbit. They're prey animals and are terrified when restrained. Period.
What equipment is being used in this video??
where can I get one of those tables? And what brand of the clippers are you using? This is great!! Thanks!
Is that shearing table for sale, what brand is it ? I would like to buy one!!!! It looks so much better then what we have been doing....
Hopefully people start doing this method to make Angora wool popular again. Clearly the woman wasn’t hurting her rabbit.
Hi guys, my wife and I live in Palmerston North and have an angora rabbit. Just wondered if there is somewhere close by to give our rabbit a going over? Cheers
some breeds naturally shed, but the fur has to be physically removed since it sticks to the fresh hair. for those breeds brushing and VERY VERY LIGHTLY pulling on the hair will remove the hair that's already fallen out.
if the breed of angora you have doesn't shed you'll need to either use scissors or a shear. also unless there is someone more experienced at shearing rabbits than you in the area your better off doing it yourself
I think she did a fantastic job....bunny in safe position to prevent nips or cuts.....and I'm sure it was too happy to get rid of all that fluff.
I can not believe this. I've sheared rabbits for many years, and there is NO reason for this. I'd NEVER subject my rabbits to this. On my lap, comfy and relaxed is plenty good enough. GOOD GRIEF.
I dont appreciate the contraption but this is much more humane than the alternative.
If the alternate method didn't exist, there would be a whole lot more bitching on this video.
Natalie, abuse is abuse - regardless of the degree.
The bunny is not tied up in an abusive way! Sometimes animals need to be sheared due to weather and I'm sure new zealand heat isn't the best for angoras. They are tied up to prevent them from jerking and getting hurt from the buzzer or shears cutting them. I'm sure you'd want a haircut too in the heat if you had all that hair.
Roksana Rahman Tying rabbits up is abusive.
Yes, it's true that we have purposely bred these rabbits to carry such unnaturally big fur-loads that they cannot manage it themselves now. How cruel is that?
Our obligation now that we have caused this disgraceful cycle, is to care for the existing angora rabbits and to stop the breeding of any more. All suffering will then stop.
Be assured, the angora abusers do not remove the rabbit fur out of kindness, to prevent the rabbits feeling hot. The ONLY reason they breed these rabbits and remove their fur, is to get their hands on the cruelly produced dollars.
Paul Johnson man, you REALLY need a zanax. I'm sure that rabbit is probably cared for better than you care for your rugrats.
rkellum35 No, I don't require Xanax or any other anxiety medications. However, compassionate people will naturally feel distress when they investigate the angora rabbit fur industry (or any other abusive/exploitative money-making schemes). That is humane.
Sadly, other people will not even recognise the cruelty involved - especially not if they profit from it in any way.
I guess you've NEVER worn a wool sweater? I guess you've never used smartphone, or worn leather shoes, or eaten meat, or drank milk, or driven a car, or rode on a bus, used cosmetics/shampoos, or eaten fish? Face it, you can be as big a hypocrite as you want to be, but the bottom line is that you are just as much responsible for the inhumane aspects of "society" as anyone else. So give the feigned outrage a rest please...unless your name is Nell, and you've lived alone in the woods for your whole life.
I'm not saying that there aren't cruel aspects to industry, but THIS shearing of the angora rabbit is NOT one of them...that doesn't make me cruel, it makes you a drama queen. As a rabbit keeper, myself, anyone can tell that the woman shearing is NOT abusing the rabbits.
rkellum35 Goodness - what an outburst - now I understand your interest in Xanax and drama queens.
We are not talking about sweaters & smartphones. We are talking about the systematic & manipulative breeding of rabbits so that we can exploit them to wear their coats. We don't need to wear rabbit fur any more than we need to wear a bracelet. Wearing the fur is an unnecessary and cruel whim.
But to answer your questions. For 39 years I haven't used a smartphone, worn wool or leather, eaten meat, fish or dairy products, or used products that contain or have been tested on animals. Other animal-abusive aspects of modern life cannot be avoided unless one wishes to live in isolation in a mud hut. In an imperfect world, we do the best we can in a world where animal exploitation is the norm. Choosing not wearing rabbit fur is easy for anyone.
Farming angora rabbits and putting them through repeated hair removal processes is abusive. The woman giving the marketing and public relations demo in this video is clearly part of this cruel industry.
The rabbit is ok. It's just getting a haircut. At least it's not screaming its just chilling enjoying the breeze and getting that heavy fur off
Yes I remember that as well. I heard on a vets programme on tv that rabbits should not be held by the ears.
I'll be honest, it doesn't look comfy but it's not animal abuse. My one problem is the noise, I wonder if theres a quieter alternative? Rabbits are very sensitive to sound.
its either that or the rabbit dies, which is more humane?
At least she doesn’t pull its hairs off and does not hurt the poor thing plus she obviously is trained for THATS day knows what to do as you can see she’s being very careful and
Gentle
I don't see the problem. Animals aren't people. its unethical to pull the hair out, but you are just shearing them here. I don't think it is unethical to inconvenience an animal or to restrain it or make it do something it doesn't want to do. I believe we have an obligation to let them live their lives in dignity where possible. The animal does not live with those restraints on, but its a once every 3 months ordeal.
Simply making an animal do something it doesn't want to do is not abusive.
The angora fur industry is a big problem and it is totally unethical to treat rabbits in this way.
You are right on one point though - animals are not humans. Correct. So what?
What is happening in this video is definitely not an animal "living her life in dignity". She is living her life with humans farming, caging, poking, prodding, shearing, shackling, rotating, stretching, pulling her...repeatedly throughout her life. And why? So vain humans can try to look as beautiful as the animal they abuse.
That is not ethical and it is not a dignified life...for either the non-human animal or the human animal.
So, the needs and wants of human beings are more valuable. They aren't the same.
What do you call owning a dog? Are they not shackled. Caged?
Why is it not dignified? Because doesn't suit your human sensibilities?
It is ethical and dignified.
tenderscootch asks me why I think the farming, caging, poking, prodding, shearing, shackling, rotating, stretching, pulling of angora rabbits repeatedly for the length of their lifespan is not dignified. And then tenderscotch asks me if all of this unethical and undignified cruelty doesn't suit my human(e) sensibilities.
If an individual cannot see that this is undignified (not to mention abusive), then the individual has not yet achieved empathy. Empathy comes when the individual is able to put themselves in the place of the victim and to put aside their own needs and greeds.
All the best in this journey to compassion and acknowledgement of the suffering of others.
yes, tenderscootch does. its obviously against their will, but so is any form of farming animals. Its brief, and then its over. A once every 3 months event.
I mean, I really wasn't asking you. It was a rhetorical question.
If you can't or won't say, its ok. But I asked why it was undignified. Just saying "well its obvious" isn't something I or the unevolved people like me can interact with.
I have empathy, but they aren't people. They aren't the same as me. It isn't charitable to refuse one's placement in the natural order. Its galling. Not really trying to criticize you, but its more of a counterpoint to the criticism from people like yourself.
I raise rabbits for food. The shearing seems like a lot of extra work. They live in a hutch, but they hay, pellets, treats. And then I eat them. I don't find it unreconcilable. They are interesting and funny to watch. Very clean animals. I care for them, and its not like I enjoy killing them. But that is their purpose.
tenderscootch The purpose of an animal is not for human use - just as the purpose of a woman is not for a man's use.
Farming, caging, poking, prodding, shearing, shackling, rotating, stretching, pulling of angora rabbits repeatedly for the length of their lifespan is not dignified. If someone is unable to grasp that this is undignified treatment of any creature, they will definitely not understand that it is abusive treatment.
When a person achieves empathy, they are aware that it applies beyond one's own species.
Did you ever find where to buy one?
do we have to shear them or can we just make sure there arnt any matts i want a french angora
I'd like to know where I can get one of these for mine!
I didn't see any pulling-out of arms and legs in this video - maybe you posted your comment in the wrong place, because if there was any arm-yanking I'm sure we would have noticed. Also it is clear from the rabbit's behaviour that he/she was not in any pain. If the rabbit was not restrained in some way he/she could hurt him/herself.
@krl1421 how do you know how the rabbit feels ??
Aw, I can see why people are spazzing out, but the rabbit is completely fine, like one of the top comments says, it would be struggling or making a lot of noise if it was really scared, and it's true that they'd overheat if they weren't sheered.
I never thought I'd see a rabbit willingly allow themselves to be restrained and sheared.
they start sheering them at 3 months so they get use to it at a young age. introduce it at a young age and they won't be as afraid of it
How much wool is that?
More good news for Angora rabbits below. :-). Hopefully the New Zealand public and retailers will soon join the boycott of this cruel industry.
On 16/10/14 the U.K-based clothing giant, French Connection, posted an announcement on its website stating that it has committed to banning the sale of all products made with angora wool. It previously sourced the angora from sheared rabbits. Customer dissatisfaction has caused the decision to be made. French Connection joins dozens of other companies, including Gap Inc. (which owns Banana Republic, Old Navy, and Athleta), Lands’ End, QVC, and Express, Inc., in banning angora.
Saying that we should never buy angora again because some producers abuse animals is like saying we should all go naked because some clothing makers employ child labor. Over reaction. When done right, angora fiber is very green/sustainable, If you're buying cheap angora garments you're bankrolling cruel fiber producers and probably child labor as well. Ethical clothing production is more expensive. High end retailers use hangtags to let us know where the angora and the garment came from (sometimes with a picture of the bunny).
KG In OREGON Injustices are always slow to be remedied when humans profit from them - by producing, selling or buying. There will always be naysayers and defenders of injustice (the human slave trade is a perfect example). The farming and profiting from angoras will also stop. We can choose to bring this about quickly (as many ethical stores have) or slowly - by creating endless "reasons" for the abuse to continue.
What kind of machine is that?
To all those dumb people who think this hurts the rabbit: It doesn't. Its the same as cutting our hair. The rabbit actually enjoys it. If it did hurt, it would scream like hell. An angora rabbit being plucked: THAT is animal cruelty. Not this.
Please poor girl, just do your fucking research before you talk.
Who relax girl, no need to swear so much! Your parents never teach you that?
I have them too. I did my research. I'm well educated. You don't sound like you're well educated.
Deena Menero Might want to reread your comment and the swearing you did so I guess your not educated either. And it's spelled Whoa not Who. smdh I'd demand my money back from whoever educated you so well.
Oh and btw, im so sorry that english is not my native language and that i made one little mistake ;-)
Deena Menero OMG are you this stupid everyday or is today a special day? I know angora's need to be shaved. My problem is the way it's being done and the rabbit tied up like that with it's ears being pulled. Angora's can be easily shaven by holding it on your lap. My Lord if your gonna go against someone and English isn't your native language then you might want to learn it a little better before making stupid statements. Your original post also has swearing in it. No matter what word is said swearing is swearing so get off your hypocritical high horse.
hmm doesn't shaving them repeatedly make their hair coarser?
That's terrifying, but not inhumane. Straps means, no cuts afterwards. People if shearing is inhumane then WHY do we shear sheep? As long as the rabbit is not in pain, unlike rabbits being skinned alive. The first time would be terrifying but that's why people start the rabbits when they're young. So when they grow up the rabbits know that the person won't hurt them. The woman is being very careful.
This is not humane. Humane would be to stop breeding these rabbits for a totally unnecessary industry. Choosing profit and vanity over animal suffering is inhumane.
ok its this or a dead bunny with no skin witch do you chose a hair cut or killing
Come on guys the rabbit is use to it. If it was really scared it would have jumped off the table before it got its legs tied. If it was scared it would still be trying to get away. It's not struggling or screaming. It looks more scary then it actually is.
I am interested in buying a table like that to shear my rabbits on...where do you buy them. Or what are they called??
This is much better that they do it in some factorys. Plus, it's healthy for them to get groomed every once in a while so stop saying its abuse cause it's not.
Stephanie LeAnn Rayner Carreia It's abuse. Just because there is more severe Angora rabbit abuse elsewhere, it doesn't make lesser abuse OK.
Is rape OK if the victim isn't killed as well? Is it OK if the victim isn't beaten? Is rape OK if the victim is spoken to softly? Is it OK if the victim is silent during the ordeal. Abuse in all its ugly forms should not be defended.
The answer is to stop breeding these poor creatures and to boycott Angora products.
Could it be because of money and that the fur is used? RSPCA come recommended as well and they are quite useless when it comes down to it.
Yeah, most of the twitches seemed to happen when she was trimming her tail. Frankly, that's a sensitive area on any animal. It's a 'show me on the doll where she touched you' area. I would twitch myself!
some of you guys are completely, and utterly stupid as hell. if the rabbit was in pain, then not only it would try to escape it would be screaming. this is the most safe/humane way to do it. plus, if you don't keep their fur in good maintenance then it will get matted, and in some severe cases even to the skin. its better to shear them then just leave it there. and its certainly much better to do it this way for everyone's safety. I suggest that some of you learn this stuff before making yourselves look stupid in front of millions and millions of people :P
dumbass, I never said they would die because of their fur being messed up .-.
you disgust me!!! you are not human, and have no soul.
If vain humans didn't want to wear animal fur, this abusive treatment of rabbits could stop. The angora industry will die a natural death when humans think before they purchase.
I couldn't hear diddly squat while the clippers were running. LOL eh ?
What the name of the Clipper?
Anyone know how I can get the email address of this location? having seen what I have seen about the Chinese method of doing this, this approach seems a 1000% better. if I can get hold of this farm in Waitomo maybe there could be some cross training. it has to be worth a try. Can anyone help?
Where you able to get the address? I think I could find this person for you- I'm in New Zealand.
jasper777777 Hi there Jasper. Sorry for delay in replying. I have been inundated with comments on the Angora rabbit issue and I have been creating leaflets and awareness. I would REALLY appreciate it if you could find the email address or contact address for this lady. Thank you again.
@disoda All I can say, is that the rabbit doesn't look distressed or in pain.
I've been handling rabbits my whole life. I can clearly say that this rabbit was completely calm and content this whole time, and was at no point in pain or in harm's way. People are ridiculously uneducated, calling this 'animal cruelty'.... why don't you drooling morons go discover where you get your hamburgers from? Urgh.
She's so adorable- I mean the woman- I feel it should be backed with victorian wallpaper . Very gentle- the technique is very good. Taking notes.
This is definitely not as bad as other angora videos, but when you buy angora sweaters, scarfs or whatever it may be, you still wouldn't know where it came from. Who knows if you bought a sweater from angora factory farms where they aggressively rip the fur right out of the animal. I suggest just leaving angora items on the rack.
Then maybe we should advocate for it being noted on any Angora product where is came from and how it was made, the same way that we do that with food.
Way nicer than others I’ve seen.
Thanks. I got a sweater made from their fur on my birthday and wanted to see how it was done.
you probably got it from angora wool harvested in China (they mass produce the stuff) and they rip the hair and skin off the rabbits there. everything gets covered in blood and a lot of the rabbits die because of it.
people like her who harvest it humanely are in the minority
I don't understand all of the negative comments. This rabbit needs to have it's fur cut for a number of reasons and not just to harvest the fur, for medical reasons. Rabbits lie down in that exact position when they are comfortable. Why would they be afraid? She says in the video they start doing this at 3 months of age. Which means they are use to the restraints, which obviously don't hurt them If it did they would be making extremely loud noises. Does anyone making neg comments even own a bun?
That bunny reminds me of my hamster, Nilla. Okay, maybe not that fluffy but yeah!
That rabbit is scared to death.I will never by clothes with angora again and if nothing else these videos only enlighten us to the horrors we were ignorant to .
If you ask me, the rabbit knows this is normal and she is sleeping.
Hi can you give a closer view next time. Thanks
It is imperative to remove the bulk of, as well as any loose wool from the rabbit every 3 months in order to prevent wool block. In proper treatment of the rabbit, it is important that the rabbit trusts its groomer. This is why grooming is not for the faint-hearted. A groomer must be confident, yet benevolent. She must be kind as well as tough. This is because not only is she the groomer, to shave the rabbit, she is to be in the place of the rabbit's very own owner- the rabbit's source of solace during what may be a stressful, yet necessary, appointment. Secondly, the shearing room must be both an audibly and visually calm environment. Unlike dogs who have higher tolerance to stress, needing only the comfort and strength of the groomer, rabbits are first and foremost quiet creatures. They cannot be in a busy room. This is why even the shears themselves must be suited for the rabbit, a pair of non-automatic, scissor-type shears, suited for the fiber of angora fur. Treats are also present in the room in order for the rabbit to acquaint itself with the groomer, the table, and everything in the room. Afterwards,the nails should be clipped in order to maintain the rabbit's health. Perhaps even a treat for cooperating so well. The entire process takes about an hour per rabbit.
A proper grooming is not what I see here.
What i see here, is a a room full of frightening (for a rabbit) distractions- camera flashes from other people, loud noises from the shears sure to scare the crap out of an otherwise docile rabbit, and who knows what else that I can't even see. It certainly doesn't look calm. What I see here, is a rabbit being introduced to a new and perhaps scary environment, without any condolences. What I see here is a rabbit being treated as some sort of circus-act by a groomer with perhaps plenty of confidence and never a drop of kindness. A true groomer knows she can be bitten. And doesn't, because she is kind and she is strong. And I certainly don't see any treats for all this rigmarole the rabbit was just put through. I don't need the ASPCA to call something humane for me. I can tell it's not to my standards. If this video didn't make you cringe, then...well I'd say you're just as bad a groomer as the woman in the video, so there.
The SPCA did not approve this process. That is a false marketing claim.
It may be SPCA approved but it doesnt make this a 'humane' way (In my opinion) to shave a rabbit. Why they approved this is beyond me. Tying up a rabbit like this or in anyway is disgusting. I have a rabbit and NO WAY would I do this is him.
Although it's tied up, it's not tight where the rabbit will get hurt, this is the safest way possible. Otherwise if the rabbit wasn't tied and was to move around, it could get nicked my the cutters & that would be nasty as. If you want to see inhumane - go see what the asians to do them & it's not shearing, they're ripping the fur off! Now that's sick!
Kirsty. The SPCA doesn't approve it. That is a marketing lie. Please check with the SPCA for confirmation - as I did.
Yeah Georgy - it's all sick and it's all for no good purpose - whether shaved or pulled.
Just a minute of your time. Please check out this website www.angorashearingshed.co.nz/ which is the same place as this video shows.
Your comment calling this a "marketing lie" is ungrounded, as they are a small farm in rural New Zealand, obviously family (couple) run and non-industrial. They are in no way trying to "market" their company/farm, and in case you have never travelled to the smaller parts of New Zealand before, many farms do small shearing demonstrations as a culture demonstration, often for a gold coin donation or even free.
This video is also not produced by the farm themselves, but a touring visitor. By all means please defend the poor bunnies being harmed in money-hungry industrial scale bunny sweat shops in China being tortured every day in one of the many other videos on UA-cam, but what good are you doing by throwing shade at this kiwi woman with a small farm exporting to nowhere?
Eileen Li
Firstly, you wrongly assume I haven't been to see this cruel spectacle. It's a disgraceful marketing ploy - its purpose is to try to win public approval and to peddle its wares.
Please check out the "shopping" page of the link you have directed us to and then tell us this company is not marketing its wares. It's a shop and a business for making money - a business which is literally run on the backs of animals. It sells Angora rabbit fur yarns, hats, boleros, scarves, etc.
Animal abuse is not acceptable whether it is ripping fur (or feathers) from an animal's body or shackling, stretching, tying, rotating and shaving Angora rabbits.
The SPCA has NOT approved this "farm's" methods. That is a false claim.
Of course I wouldn't know for sure, but if I were the bunny, I think I might just be a little traumatized...