Group interview with Mr. Lunde, Mr. De Klerk and Mr. Mbeki
Вставка
- Опубліковано 28 тра 2013
- Frederik Willem de Klerk (born 18 March 1936), often known as F. W. de Klerk, was the seventh and last State President of apartheid-era South Africa, serving from September 1989 to May 1994. De Klerk was also leader of the National Party(which later became the New National Party) from February 1989 to September 1997.
Thabo Mvuyelwa Mbeki[3] (Xhosa pronunciation: [tʰaɓɔ mbɛːkʼi]; born 18 June 1942) is a South African politician who served two terms as the second post-apartheid President of South Africa from 14 June 1999[4] to 24 September 2008.[5] He is also the brother of Moeletsi Mbeki. On 20 September 2008, he announced his resignation after being recalled by the African National Congress's National Executive Committee,[6] following a conclusion by Judge Nicholson of improper interference in theNational Prosecuting Authority (NPA), including the prosecution of Jacob Zuma for corruption.[7] On 12 January 2009, the Supreme Court of Appeal unanimously overturned Judge Nicholson's judgment[8][9][10] but the resignation stood.
South Africans are blessed to have a very strong culture of talking through very very tough subjects. Nothing is taboo. I lived there most of my professional life and I learned so much about this quality.
My President Mr Mbeki!
Great discussion. I believe we dont see this enough and citizens act on emotions but when people come together things work.
Highly informative, I will share it with people on the other side of the world! Let's keep the channels of communication open! Thank you!
This is the middle of conversation, I wish there is full conversation.
"Sanctions should be reserved for serious situations." FW de Klerk has time and again expressed his view that "there was nothing wrong with apartheid." In his statement in the conference he's shown that he doesn't think that apartheid was "a serious situation."
I noted that
What do you say that an unqualified one man one vote democracy is a disaster in a society of great inequality and that it is capable of being manipulated to the detriment {as in the case of SA) of social progress. Our institutions of state has all but been destroyed. In 30 years the governing party have been unable to put in place a first class educational system which a priori resulted in the economy remaining firmly in the hands of 2% of the population. And the architect of this failure is Mr Mbeki and his apparatchiks. They could try and blame it all on Zuma but the rot started under Mbekis watch. That will be his legacy, of being a poser. Pres.Mugabe on the other hand produced a first class civil service and built on the educational institutions inherited from the previous ruling class. Only for it to be destroyed by western sanctions following Britains reneging of the terms of The Lancaster House agreement by refusing to pay compensation for land reparations. That will be the legacy of Pres Mugabe whether one likes it or not.
Mugabe killed his own people in Gukurahundi. After that he killed the economy of
Zimbabwe. For this reason you are in South Africa.
De Klerk mentioned a valuable point that a ruling party must have consensus council
Mr Mbeki wish you were still the leader of South Africa
wow!! do you Dream about Mbeki lips on yours??
white traitor.
Either Mbeki, Mandela or de Klerk. Sadly the last two named are dead already. So Mbeki would save South Africa.
Am i the only one irritated by this🤔? When they address De Klerk, they refer to him as "MR" or "President" but when they speak to Thabo Mbeki and Mandela, they refer to them straight by names
This man should be jail forever.because he have a blood in his hands and today he is sitting and talking nonsense to us
Well the way i see it. Affirmative action poses both a negative and positive impact on out country, in the sense that many white skilled workers are being rejected which poses a wide spread threat to the economic structure of out country and where our black people benefit in the sense of employment but causes a slow economic growth in our country, i think affirmative action has run its course already
Do you think there is another solution?
Wow, in 2020 this is a great diagnosis. Just maybe we’d need to attach a solution or practical way forward to it. The future isn’t obvious to me at all.
If this is the quality of our Nobel prize winners - boy is ons in die kak.
I was wondering who ask the afrikaners if they are willing to give up their right to self determination like FW de Klerk said before 1994.
No one asked us. It was taken away. We ask for it time and time again and we are refused.
Johan Nortje self determination in Holland not in South Africa
Mike Roden FW De klerk was the one trying to convince the in 1989 December
@@Colour2014 why Holland you make no sense we are talking about South Africa different country abd continent
@Shauna Baddy why are you agreeing different country and continent
Lands should be giving to the majority's
Now Press De Klerk you strat telling lies, neglecting is not a right word to put in that sentence you deliberately deprived black people their political rights and oppressed them. And you President Mbeki you are just the Best for your country, continent and globally, such a brilliant leader Mr Thabo Mbeki and yet so natural you never failed us and the African continent will always respect you heaven and earth applaud you Zizi
De Klerk should be jailed and be sitting around with stooges and shaking hands this is why these people hate Zuma, Zuma doesn’t paper over things he’s clear about who’s our enemy
Zumba was a corrupt idiot who played a massive role in ruining the SA economy.
Zuma had 9 years to arrest De klerk what did he do ? Your love for Zuma must not blind you to what the man has done and didn't do.
And Mbeki should give the eyebrows a trim and the interviewer should get a Beatles style wig to cover that purple thing on his forehead...
Restrictions of wealth.
One day we will wake up and understand that the sell out is Thabo Mbeki
😂😂😂😂😂
These guys will always talk about loss of Boers in the wars with English (Anglo Boer what what), but will never talk about number of Blacks and Khoisans who lost their lives, who where also conscripted by Boers, this is so disgusting
Ek moet se ou F.W is bietjie te slim vir Thabo
They're both clever men, actually. And it's okay to say as much.
efsedfsd Im sure they are just seemed to me that F.W answered the questions better.
Mr Kruger You sir are sniffing glue. De Klerk was clearly outclassed throughout the talk.
George Jung It just seems as if he answered all the questions better.
Mr Kruger We're obviously weren't listening to the same thing now were we? We missed the crowd heckling at him. Which questions were those by the way. What you missed is the fact that Mbeki not only answered questions posed to him but further elaborated to allude to the reasoning behind it all.
So these Caucasians don't know how to include Mr....
Mbeki is a big sellout ,he touches nothing on land and other things which are in the minority dammn I can not believe I was a staunch supporter of this guy
was it Mbeki or ANC?