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  • @-Jethro-
    @-Jethro- 10 місяців тому +194

    It looks like the 18650 cells are easily replaceable. That’s excellent, I wish all rechargeable devices were designed this way.

    • @markfergerson2145
      @markfergerson2145 10 місяців тому +21

      Like a lot of things that’s a tradeoff. Being able to replace cells is good if one or both die, or if the ones supplied are low capacity. Cells that are spot welded or soldered (spit) in circuit are far less likely to suffer corrosion at the contacts or to jostle loose under physical shock.
      For folks like us who automatically disregard those “no user serviceable parts inside” labels they are very good on general principles.

    • @brentengelhart5
      @brentengelhart5 10 місяців тому +5

      We're suckers and we realize that fact.

    • @-Jethro-
      @-Jethro- 10 місяців тому

      @@markfergerson2145 Label: “Warranty void if opened”
      Us: Challenge accepted!

    • @PhilXavierSierraJones
      @PhilXavierSierraJones 10 місяців тому +1

      Many of those bigger solar lights on Ali with two buttons on the back have replaceable AA cells inside!

    • @mindaugasstankus5943
      @mindaugasstankus5943 10 місяців тому

      @@markfergerson2145 Tradeoff? Protection from moisture water intrusion and corrosion my guess?... BS mainly. Soldered and welded cell leak nicely and eat all traces around or just die couple years in, no different from socketed ones. Soldering in is penny pinching and "planed" obsolescence, a specially components with very limited life span or shelf life.

  • @citizengkar7824
    @citizengkar7824 10 місяців тому

    Great to see there are still a few honourable resellers out there, given the number of F useless ones, that pervade the internet.
    Any truth to the rumour that it's actually you who reverse engineers Aliexpresses entire back-catalogue, Clive? Given how quickly you are able to achieve the feat, time & again 😂🙃😉

  • @Schlups
    @Schlups 10 місяців тому +99

    This is ingenious. The "magic of buying two of them" can now be replaced with the "magic of buying a broken one and getting a free replacement".

  • @mistermeaargee2670
    @mistermeaargee2670 11 місяців тому +83

    The problem we have here in Aus is the violent daytime sun. It kills off the coating on cheapie solar panels in 1-2 years.

    • @amorphuc
      @amorphuc 11 місяців тому +15

      I've noticed this too in the desert in Idaho. I'm experimenting with automotive wax as a protective coating and thinking about UV resin or cutting glass to fit over them.

    • @matthewellisor5835
      @matthewellisor5835 10 місяців тому +18

      ​@@amorphucI've had good luck with a thin piece of glass. It did reduce the PV output 5-10% but that's no trouble in my scorching summers the South East USA. Sadly several weeks of 100+F (~38C) highs and 80-100%rh un alives quite a few (typically elderly who can't afford air conditions or the infirm) every year.

    • @Alabaster335
      @Alabaster335 10 місяців тому +17

      Rural QLD here, only takes 1 summer to kill a cheap solar panel.

    • @two_tier_gary_rumain
      @two_tier_gary_rumain 10 місяців тому +9

      It's the resin ones that fog up. I've complained about this before and Clive once mentioned that you can clear them again but I couldn't be bothered.
      However, the glass ones last for ever. I have a set of garden solar lights that are glass rather than resin. Over 10 years old now and still fine.

    • @rolls_8798
      @rolls_8798 10 місяців тому +3

      and most cheap plastic in general

  • @LakeNipissing
    @LakeNipissing 11 місяців тому +23

    My "solar" lamps were amazing... they were as bright as the sun for a fraction of a second !
    Now I'll send them back, because they've gone dark.

    • @KeritechElectronics
      @KeritechElectronics 11 місяців тому +5

      Unlike the sun, not rising again? Oh well...

    • @originaldcjensen
      @originaldcjensen 10 місяців тому +1

      I have a camera that uses bulbs that do that…if you can find them.

    • @LakeNipissing
      @LakeNipissing 10 місяців тому

      @@originaldcjensen I know what you speak of. I still have boxes of cubes and flip-flash units for the old Kodak Instamatic cameras!

  • @zh84
    @zh84 11 місяців тому +194

    The REALLY scientific thing to do would be to put 240V across the "good" set and see if they fail in the same way. That would be strong evidence in favour of your theory ;-)

    • @TomCee53
      @TomCee53 10 місяців тому +16

      😅 I know you’re joking, but it would have been interesting to see one of the low-voltage bulbs tested in the bulb tester at 240v.

    • @Alabaster335
      @Alabaster335 10 місяців тому +5

      And a set across a large capacitor bank, in the name of science...

    • @Ni5ei
      @Ni5ei 10 місяців тому +4

      Nah, LEDs on high voltage usually fail in a non spectacular way.

    • @zyeborm
      @zyeborm 10 місяців тому +10

      ​​@@Ni5eithat just means you aren't using enough of it😂

    • @RS-Amsterdam
      @RS-Amsterdam 10 місяців тому +4

      And claim a third set😅

  • @k.o.0
    @k.o.0 10 місяців тому +38

    I purchased this same unit off Amazon. Probably the best solar lights that I have come across. Running 4 seasons with cold winters. The USB port is to charge in winter if insufficient sunlight. Never used it. They emit for several hours in the summer months and the bulbs look nice. Glad that you ripped it apart before me! I imagine that once the lithium batteries are spent, I will be replacing them so at least I know what’s inside now! Thanks Clive. Love all your videos.

    • @BLKMGK4
      @BLKMGK4 10 місяців тому

      Link to the item?

  • @blairhoughton7918
    @blairhoughton7918 10 місяців тому +7

    I took a picture of the screen with my phone and used Google Lens to translate the QX7136 diagrams, and the left one is "low voltage application" and the right one is "high voltage application". Ironically it means the chip itself can sink all the current from several lamps in parallel, but not handle the high off-voltage from several lamps in series, so it needs the external FET even though the current would be much lower. I bet the low-voltage configuration can't support nearly as many bulbs though.

  • @sarathai2876
    @sarathai2876 10 місяців тому +28

    A lot going on in that circuit. I love how you reverse engineer things and come up with a wiring diagram.

  • @jackpreston8762
    @jackpreston8762 10 місяців тому +14

    I watch all your videos over the years and you have been a real inspiration to me and I realised that I haven't said thank you for all you do. So thank you Big Man. Long may you keep going inspiring lots of people and making people's lives just a bit better, again thank you.

  • @quantumleap359
    @quantumleap359 10 місяців тому +21

    I just noticed Big Clive has hit the 1 million subscriber mark! Congratulations sir, well earned and deserved! Keep these excellent videos coming.

  • @gregorythomas333
    @gregorythomas333 11 місяців тому +27

    A redesign of the connector seems to be in order...a simple pip addition could help make the low voltage one non-compatible.

    • @SeanBZA
      @SeanBZA 10 місяців тому +6

      Terrible in the factory though, as they now need to have a second set of moulds. Single set, and accept people are stupid, will ensure more sales.

    • @HelenaOfDetroit
      @HelenaOfDetroit 10 місяців тому +5

      It's one of those "make something idiot proof and the world will produce a better idiot" things. 😂
      But there could be an adapter created that could be put between these two different strings. And ya, I'm being silly with the first sentence as there really should be some marking or something to make it obvious.

    • @gregorythomas333
      @gregorythomas333 10 місяців тому +7

      @@HelenaOfDetroit
      You may consider the sentence silly but sadly it is too true.
      Having to put a warning that coffee is hot on a coffee cup is proof that idiots keep getting more idiotic every day!

    • @Knaeckebrotsaege
      @Knaeckebrotsaege 10 місяців тому

      @@gregorythomas333My ethernet network switch came with a lampcord style inline switch between the PSU brick and the plug that goes into the device. It seriously had a sticker on both the PSU and the network switch stating "This device will not function if the switch is turned off". The world needs a whole lot less warnings. Let the gene pool sort itself out. _Pleaaaase_

    • @tactileslut
      @tactileslut 10 місяців тому +1

      I would tie a knot in it and attach a keyring tag reading "low voltage."

  • @dcallan812
    @dcallan812 11 місяців тому +6

    Nice lights, shame they use the same connectors for mains and solar. But the bonus is you now have 1 spare solar panel that contains 2 good lithium cells free. 🤣🤣 great video 2x👍

  • @Shady97342
    @Shady97342 10 місяців тому +5

    Clive did you hear there was another incident of an event installing improper UV bulbs causing eye and skin damage? I wonder if it's carelessness/lack of knowledge or cost cutting attempts (are the disinfecting bulbs cheaper?) "Attendees of Bored Ape Yacht Club's ApeFest concert have reported experiencing extreme eye pain that's prompted some of them to visit the hospital."

  • @stephennorris6150
    @stephennorris6150 10 місяців тому +8

    I have a similar one (with USB-C input instead of micro USB). As it gets dark it flashes at about 1Hz. I assume this is because the light from the LEDs is enough to make the panel produce enough power to make the micro-controller think it’s day again. Once it’s fully dark it’s fine.

    • @45KevinR
      @45KevinR 10 місяців тому +2

      Very likely. I have a security camera with infrared leds about 3m up and it was just strong enough to stop one of my solar wall lights 2m up from turning on. I used part of a plastic tray to make a light baffle on the wall between the two devices. Problem solved and not that unsightly. I didn't expect 2.5w of infrared to be enough to do that.

  • @RousePartridge
    @RousePartridge 11 місяців тому +6

    " Solar energy isn't going to replace coal overnight " - Gerald Ford Pres. USA 1976

    • @maciejzettt
      @maciejzettt 10 місяців тому

      But is more likely to do so over 10 000 nights :D

  • @joelmurphy9369
    @joelmurphy9369 11 місяців тому +4

    Will you please plug a working string of 3V lamps into a 220V lamp string and then plug in the 220V lamp string in to that crunchy plug tester that you have? And then turn it on? Please? Just so that we can see what happens?

    • @NinoJoel
      @NinoJoel 10 місяців тому

      At that voltage they just pop and that's it. Nothing to exiting

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 10 місяців тому

      He already told you what happens, and it isn't very exciting.

  • @darrenglynn597
    @darrenglynn597 10 місяців тому +5

    🎉 Congratulations Clive , you have made the ((ONE ) Million mark on subscribers well done as you are very entertaining with (Cock ups on design faults) and how badly the circuit diagrams .
    Thanks again could you tell me what plug socket that you use that reads the power consumption is it the (Hobi) if I have spelt it correctly. Thanks again
    💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

  • @ericblenner-hassett3945
    @ericblenner-hassett3945 10 місяців тому +9

    I would guess the current regulator is the Q varient. It apears that when the voltage is too low it will cut off the lights and save the batteries from over discharge. I am also amazed how well the circuit was designed and implimented into such a small package looking like the space to mount the switches was the size limiting factor.

  • @chrissmith7655
    @chrissmith7655 10 місяців тому +2

    HI Clive, 1,000,000 subs HOORAY!!!!! Thanks to all subscribers, he WELL DESERVES THAT!!

  • @tubastuff
    @tubastuff 10 місяців тому +4

    I've got a number of flashing solar LED beacons along my otherwise-dark driveway. They're sealed units, complete with O-rings and rated for marine use. After about 4 years, they've started failing, one by one. The culprit turns out to be the soldered-in NiMH cells (1 per light) reaching the end of their service life. There is a bit of corrosion on each cell, but they're replaceable.

  • @JoeyBlogs007
    @JoeyBlogs007 10 місяців тому +4

    They're not dead. They're just waiting for Christmas.

  • @cmuller1441
    @cmuller1441 10 місяців тому +4

    I have Christmas lights that have that connector and uses a 24v transformer (AC I think). That's probably enough to kill the LEDs.

  • @ferrumignis
    @ferrumignis 10 місяців тому +3

    The 100k across the solar panel will be to compensate for the reverse leakage of the Schottky diode which is much higher than regular silicon diodes.

  • @billide1463
    @billide1463 10 місяців тому +2

    Your avalanche comment reaffirms the state we technician/collectors/hoarders find ourselves in when we experience 'settling' of the hoard; a frequent reminder that we need to purge. Garbage-lanches happen to me all the time. senior from Canada

  • @armin7515
    @armin7515 10 місяців тому +4

    bigclive saying "one moment please." just makes my day!

    • @-Jethro-
      @-Jethro- 10 місяців тому

      I’ve started saying it, too. In my head I sound just like BC!

  • @Eddy-NOR
    @Eddy-NOR 10 місяців тому +1

    When regulating current to all paralle bulbs, then if one fail, remaining will get more (over) current

  • @HelenaOfDetroit
    @HelenaOfDetroit 10 місяців тому +10

    The amount of effort it took to reverse engineer this had to be wild compared to how quickly you were able to explain it. Thanks for helping plebs like myself learn even more!

  • @restojon1
    @restojon1 10 місяців тому +1

    The point you made about the connector blocks of the low and high voltage looms being compatible is worthy of discussion.
    In my experience, electrical and electronic equipment in the UK has historically been manufactured in such a way as to "idiot-proof" it, especially when you consider connector blocks and plugs.
    For example, small tangs, different shapes of blocks and male and females being connected in such a way that it's not possible to connect your sparky item incorrectly unless you are really spesh.
    With the advent of global trade and so many companies overseas competing for such a tiny market space, such "niceties" as not murdering the operator or burning their house/office down is reasonably far down the list of priorities, somewhere below;
    Make it cheap.
    No, cheaper.
    Fuck it, we'll use sellotape.
    We need to be more stringent enforcing this kind of safety measure because at some point, there's going to be another Grenfell or something of that magnitude caused by badly manufactured items bought cheap because none of us can afford socks anymore due to the cost of living crisis.

  • @gertbenade3082
    @gertbenade3082 10 місяців тому +1

    With a nice solar panel like that, one can upgrade the cells and even hack this and add a 5V USB output stage for phone charging out in the bush.
    Thanks Clive!

  • @amorphuc
    @amorphuc 11 місяців тому +45

    So fabulous. Thanks Big Clive. I appreciate the dedicated hours you work to bring us this content! So informative and fun!

    • @amorphuc
      @amorphuc 11 місяців тому

      It IS interesting the manner in which they failed. You'd almost hope for a pop and soot covered glass on the bulbs LOL.

  • @eh42
    @eh42 10 місяців тому +2

    I'm just gobsmacked that there are LED strings with consumer replaceable bulbs!

  • @daverei1211
    @daverei1211 10 місяців тому +4

    Thanks Clive. I really worry about 18650 Lion batteries in these kind of outdoor solar lights without any ventilation. Here in Australia the average day is 35c air temperature in summer (peaking to 40ish) while this box is in full sun and charging the battery- best case it shortens the life of the cell … worst case of overheating could be very bad.

    • @NinoJoel
      @NinoJoel 10 місяців тому +6

      If you think thats Bad i got some good news for you.
      They sold USB power banks with Lithium polymer battery's ( the soft pouch ones) and it had the battery directly glued to the solar cell which reached well above 70° in the sunn. 😂

    • @hockeyguy820
      @hockeyguy820 10 місяців тому

      @@NinoJoel : I bought a power bank like that quite a few years ago on eBay. The small solar panel on one side of the case is impractical at best, and a scam at worst. In direct sunlight the solar charge current was only about 50mA which means it would take about 60 hours of direct sunlight to gather enough total energy to charge my Android phone. That's crazy. And yes, the unit gets extremely hot in the sun. Not good for the lithium cells. To make things worse, and here comes the "scam" part, the power bank has circuitry that wakes it up in fairly low light, i.e. when the solar panel voltage just comes up. Once woken up it starts lighting and flashing LEDs that indicate it's charging, even under indoor lighting. The problem is that regular indoor lighting is not enough to supply any charging current, and the unit is actually draining the battery to look "active and charging". The bottom line is to never buy a power bank with solar cells attached to it. Always buy a separate panel so you can plug into batteries you keep in the shade.

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke 10 місяців тому +2

    If those bulbs are E10 base, then that explains the previous vid on printing custom bulbs, a DIY festoon of a mixed bag of odd lamps in various shapes and sizes... :D

  • @chrissavage5966
    @chrissavage5966 10 місяців тому +1

    BC, I'm sure they aren't new, but I recently saw an advert for a "kinetic molecular heater". Sad & hilarious at the same time. Could you do a teardown and more importantly, a debunk please? Not sure what's worse, that there are people that make & market stuff like that or that there are people that buy it......

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  10 місяців тому +2

      I have a molecular car deicer on its way. (It's actually an air freshener).

    • @chrissavage5966
      @chrissavage5966 10 місяців тому

      @@bigclivedotcom Fantastic! Can’t wait for this one.

  • @martinclemesha4794
    @martinclemesha4794 10 місяців тому +3

    I have a set of these, which have been outside for 2 years. The only issue I had, was with the bulbs, which allow the ingress of water. Not a lot, and the led still works. These light my garden quite well, and seem to last most of the night this time of year.

  • @Un_Pour_Tous
    @Un_Pour_Tous 10 місяців тому +1

    I have the same solar kit lol I use it for LoRa

  • @MikeSmith-sh3ko
    @MikeSmith-sh3ko 10 місяців тому +2

    Did you check the capacity of the two 18650 batterys Clive . Sounds like it was a reasonable product and gave you a useful spare unit👍

    • @Knaeckebrotsaege
      @Knaeckebrotsaege 10 місяців тому +1

      Those 18650s look like exactly like the "1800mAh" one that came with a friends solar LED string light. It failed after just a year, with the 18650 deep discharged for some reason (high internal resistance?). I "forced" it to charge in a USB powerbank and after 2-3 cycles, it measured a grand total of 920mAh. Replaced it with a used Sony 2400mAh out of an old laptop battery pack that still measured somewhere around 1900mAh and the LED string has been running _much_ longer than it did brand new. And it hasn't deep discharged the cell (yet?)

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  10 місяців тому +2

      They were closer to 1000mAh.

  • @briantaylor9266
    @briantaylor9266 10 місяців тому +1

    Prompted by your review, I purchased a set of these lights on Amazon ("LE Outdoor Solar String Lights, 25ft 26 Units G40 Edison Bulbs USB Rechargeable or Solar Powered Patio Lights Waterproof for Indoor Outdoor Garden Bistro Festival Decoration, Warm White"). They came exceptionally well packaged with each bulb individually cradled in styrofoam. The instructions that came with them were well written in clear English, and provide a warning that the bulbs are 3V and that they must not be connected to high voltage.

  • @25566
    @25566 10 місяців тому +2

    i have the same lights they're very bright, my set also has a remote. I knew it had two 18650s but I didn't think they would be replaceable. I like the product for how user friendly it is, replaceable standard bulbs and batteries

  • @kean4218
    @kean4218 10 місяців тому +3

    I love this channel so much its amazing how much you though me about electronics. thank you

  • @connclissmann6514
    @connclissmann6514 10 місяців тому +2

    Really impressive finding all those days sheets, helping your long reverse engineering process. Always appreciated, of i not so commented before. Those connectors being interchangeable appears to be at the root cause of the meltdown. Thanks again.

  • @LygerTheCLaw
    @LygerTheCLaw 10 місяців тому +1

    i have had a set of these for a while, they started acting erratically after about 3 months, they'd turn the lights on during the day and no longer turn on at night. i think the issue is once the 18650's become weak the controllers lose the ability to determine whether the solar panel should be charging or running the lamps. the circuits seem to be either trying to charge or trying to power the lights(unless the switch is off). both my 18650's seemed to be ok voltage wise but i didn't run any actual tests on them. id say the downfall is the batteries cant maintain a daily usage on all these lights for more than a few months without needing to be replaced.
    i was trying to understand why there was no light sensor when i took my panel apart a while back, but you explained my theory that it was simple current based logic.

  • @Backcountry_Bodger
    @Backcountry_Bodger 10 місяців тому +1

    So what did the batteries capacity come in at after testing, I can't see the results in the description like you said? 😅

  • @PhilC184
    @PhilC184 10 місяців тому +1

    When my similar set failed it was because one of our local squirrels chewed through the cable.

    • @NOWThatsRichy
      @NOWThatsRichy 10 місяців тому

      Ive had that same problem with foxes, several times in the past!

  • @someguy2741
    @someguy2741 10 місяців тому +1

    Maybe the first set was black light and are working fine.

  • @pmpwiz
    @pmpwiz 10 місяців тому +3

    Not too impressed with the lights but... that solar panel has my attention! Love the design 😍

  • @Foxtrot_Foxtrot_Lima
    @Foxtrot_Foxtrot_Lima 10 місяців тому +1

    You could use half the paper if you printed on the back side also.

  • @AnthonyCartmell
    @AnthonyCartmell 10 місяців тому +1

    We have a set of these, they're seemingly good quality. The lights flicker on and off rhythmically when the batteries get low, possibly switched by that current sensing chip in "minimum current" mode? I would have expected the main microprocessor to have some hysteresis in its voltage sense input to prevent oscillation

  • @BG101UK
    @BG101UK 10 місяців тому

    Having interchangeable connectors and lampholders across LV and 240V is just asking for trouble. I remember motor-factors selling 12- or 24-volt 50W GLS-style lamps for automotive use, with E27 base, not realizing E27 would soon become common in the UK for household use,
    Imagine accidentally screwing one of these in the posh Ikea fitting in the dunny. You'd end up with a flash in the pan.

  • @lloydevans2900
    @lloydevans2900 8 місяців тому

    That's the first time I have seen a set of these solar powered LED lights with lithium ion 18650 cells in them. All the other ones I have come across use Ni-MH cells, usually AA size though some of the really small ones which power a single LED can use Ni-MH button cells. The AA size cells usually have at least 600 mAh capacity, with some having 800 mAh or even 1200 mAh, depending on the size of the solar panel and how many LEDs it has attached. Though I recently came across some "solar powered pebble" night-lights which work the same way, also with Ni-MH AA cells, though with only 300 mAh capacity. Which was a bit of a surprise - I have no idea how you can actually make cells of that physical size have such a pathetically low capacity, whoever made them deserves an ignobel prize for figuring out how to make cells which manage to be so utterly crap as that. Has anyone ever come across any AA size cells (either Ni-MH or Ni-Cd) with a lower capacity than 300 mAh?

  • @Lizlodude
    @Lizlodude 10 місяців тому

    I'm imagining a string of 50 flashbulbs when they original user plugged the poor 4v LEDs into 120v 😅 but it probably wasn't even that exciting.

  • @greenaum
    @greenaum 10 місяців тому

    Clive, could you maybe superimpose translations over the Chinese text sometimes? Google Translate, or whatever you have, would be good enough. Nobody would expect perfection but it might be interesting.

  • @Jcewazhere
    @Jcewazhere 10 місяців тому

    Seems unwise to have compatible dimensions but incompatible voltages in a connector like that. Question for all you electrical gurus:
    Why would LED bulbs flicker in one part of my house but not another, and is there an easy way to fix it?
    I have a bathroom vanity light with cheapo filament style LED bulbs and a table lamp with a nicer bulb in it that flicker intermittently. They will start flickering a bit, then more and more until they stop, then it repeats randomly.
    If I move the lamp from one bedroom to the other it flickers in the one but not the other.
    None of the lights are on dimmers. The table lamp I've had for years. The house is new construction (though I keep finding things wrong with it, avoid speculative homes unless you're handy or can't afford anything else newish).

  • @melkiorwiseman5234
    @melkiorwiseman5234 10 місяців тому

    I've been running a chain of around a dozen LEDs from a Li-Ion protected cell which is switched and charged via a circuit I found on a web site. The circuit uses 2x NPN transistors (2N2222 or equivalent), 4x resistors and a diode. It turns the lights off and on automatically and allows the cell to charge when there's sufficient current. The solar panel doesn't provide sufficient current even in full sunlight to stress the cell, and the protection circuit prevents the cell from being either over charged or over discharged.
    So far, it's been running for roughly... 4 years? 5? Something like that. They provide enough light in my carport so that I can see where the keyhole is even if I have to return home late at night and I forgot to leave the outside light on.
    I have another set of lights which used to use a circuit similar to the one in this video (and a virtually identical case), but that went dodgy (I think due to corrosion of a switch) so I changed it over to using the same switching circuit. The one thing I need to do is to add a second protected lithium cell in parallel since only one doesn't last long enough with such a long string of LEDs to drive.

  • @gedtoon6451
    @gedtoon6451 10 місяців тому

    It sad, but it is probably cheaper to by the whole thing than to try to buy replacement bulbs. Absolute madness to use the same connector for 240V and 3V LED strings!

  • @lezbriddon
    @lezbriddon 10 місяців тому

    Mystery chip, ha I'm cursed by a mystery chip in a simple buck converter, its magic is that it is rated for 90v dc to 5v out, and from some sellers 110v dc to 5v(12v option) out at 3amp, I'm really puzzled what tiny little chip they are using I have tried RS etc and nothing seems to meet the spec, I have 6, every one has its ID lasered off. i must say they are reliable i'm running 84v to one to run my arduino/gps etc for over a year

  • @Fluxkompressor
    @Fluxkompressor 10 місяців тому

    That all in one protection IC could be just 2 separate dies slapped together in one package to save on cost
    F... the PCB design guy if you get two BOM items for one!

  • @10100rsn
    @10100rsn 10 місяців тому

    "There's a current sense resistor down there ..." Listening to you say that at 2x speed made me choke on my Dr.Pepper. Almost spit it all over my laptop. Really didn't sound like "current" at all.

  • @stevengill1736
    @stevengill1736 10 місяців тому

    No comparison to those dollar store specials...occaionally you find ones that last a few years, and their performance can be improved by upgrading the single AA NiMH battery, and protecting from the weather by placing the top unit in a canning jar....
    the rest don't make it through a northern California winter with over 30" of rain and days about the same length as the Isle of Man....

  • @pauljs75
    @pauljs75 10 місяців тому +1

    It's always fun to see the results of standardized components that lack a fixed specific standard to go with them. But at least you got some free bits to mess with out of it.

  • @matthewmiller6068
    @matthewmiller6068 10 місяців тому

    It's entirely possible that the listing was wrong and they didn't really understand the implications of the solar panel indicating it wasn't 240 volt... I ordered some 12 volt fairy lights off Amazon and after connecting them I was musing that it seemed like the colors were wrong... And then when I went to move them it was too hot to touch and started melting the stuff it was sitting on. I eventually worked out that I think maybe they were selling 3v or 5v fairy lights as 12 volt, and since it fit the generic barrel connector on my power supply I didn't think much of it. I'm just glad I realized it was a problem before it became a fire.

  • @skuula
    @skuula 10 місяців тому

    I am going to install an AliExpress surveillance cam also solar power ... I wonder how I am going to make it actually waterproof.

  • @channelsixtysix066
    @channelsixtysix066 10 місяців тому

    A 3V array uses the same plug and socket as a 240v array .... what could possibly go wrong?

  • @gcewing
    @gcewing 10 місяців тому

    Two identical-looking sets of lights with the same type of connector, one high voltage, one low... what could possibly go wrong?

  • @FearlessLeader2001
    @FearlessLeader2001 10 місяців тому

    The previous owner was clearly a fan of the scientific method; blasting an entire set of lightbulbs with 240 volts, then trying again to make sure it would have the same effect.

  • @audiocrush
    @audiocrush 10 місяців тому

    honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if those chinese cheapskates just repurposed the case of a car satnav for this solar panel thing :D

  • @Knaeckebrotsaege
    @Knaeckebrotsaege 10 місяців тому +1

    I have two older LED string sets (non-bulb type, just little 5mm (?) LEDs with the weird cone shape built into them so they light all around them and not just into a spot) that both also use this connector, but one is 24V AC with a bulky potted linear transformer and the other is 31V DC with a switchmode PSU. Even those would've probably killed the LEDs on this bulb set. At 240V it would've probably been _a lot_ more violent (I'd expect smoked bulbs and/or skidmarks at that point)

  • @bertbrecht7540
    @bertbrecht7540 10 місяців тому

    Do you think this Chinese manufacturer has circuit designers on staff or they copy a competitors product? Have you seen this same design in other products?

  • @kimsleep4111
    @kimsleep4111 10 місяців тому

    Ill always send you what you need, if you require something specific

  • @scotts.2624
    @scotts.2624 10 місяців тому

    They filled the order for the name brand contract and still had material and machine time available. Once a production facility hits that point minus labor its free money.

  • @M0UAW_IO83
    @M0UAW_IO83 10 місяців тому +7

    My mother has a set of these lights, so far, excepting a smashed bulb or two and a bit of corrosion in the bulb sockets they've been great, they're on their second winter and are going strong.
    I think you're right about the overvoltage, replacement bulbs are bit awkward to track down (smashed bulbs) and there are 240V versions in the same package so, as you kind of said, maybe someone saw these sets and bought them to extend a 240V set

    • @ericpaul4575
      @ericpaul4575 10 місяців тому

      Clive could just get the 240v bulbs and upgrade his broken string . I bet the wiring gauge on string is the same for both version.

  • @nerys71
    @nerys71 10 місяців тому

    That's interesting that the panel you like is the panel that I hate I won't buy units with that panel unless there's no other option
    I call them in capsulated solar panels The reason I hate them is because of the epoxy resin capsulation They never use UV stable resin so inevitably those solar panels become opaque when they fade in the UV light
    You can polish them to restore them but then it's just going to do it again and you can only polish it so many times before you wear out the UV resin and start damaging the panel the panel that you see is the kind I prefer or glass panels because they won't fade in UV light

  • @elfnetdesigns702
    @elfnetdesigns702 10 місяців тому

    seems they would have a different connector types for the high voltage and low voltage strings so they cannot be put together.

  • @jrsc01.
    @jrsc01. 10 місяців тому

    1:07 - now I want to see that Clive... (for research purposes and experiments only lol)

  • @Paul_Munro
    @Paul_Munro 10 місяців тому

    I have 2 of these, both sets the RF remote ceases working after a couple of weeks which is infuriating

  • @DumahBrazorf
    @DumahBrazorf 10 місяців тому

    For once a circuit built by the book and no taking shortcuts to make it cheaper. Looks like they try to make it last. Me silly.

  • @fredbloke3218
    @fredbloke3218 10 місяців тому

    24O V set connector looks very flimsy, legal for UK?

  • @NoMoreBsPlease
    @NoMoreBsPlease 10 місяців тому

    At least you wait until you have a second one to tear yours apart 😂 I'm too curious, I have to know!

  • @normandothegreat
    @normandothegreat 9 місяців тому

    Intentional obsolescence was obviously not implemented. 😊👍

  • @lc46002
    @lc46002 10 місяців тому

    Are the battery's li-ion or iLiFePO4 battery? great vid

  • @nerys71
    @nerys71 10 місяців тому

    I really wish I could find a nice set of solar lights like these the bistro string lights with a nice big solar panel that uses a lithium-iron phosphate battery

  • @Laurelpearce-w8l
    @Laurelpearce-w8l 10 місяців тому

    you now have plenty of bases now and can replace the "filaments"

  • @irishguy200007
    @irishguy200007 10 місяців тому

    What's the problem with the Isle of Man for eBay?

  • @TechTed1
    @TechTed1 10 місяців тому

    Without reverse engineering they cant understand their mistakes 😊

  • @d.t.4523
    @d.t.4523 10 місяців тому

    Thank you. Keep working, good luck to you.

  • @RustyorBroken
    @RustyorBroken 10 місяців тому

    Clive could read tax law and make it sound incredible.

  • @mikegLXIVMM
    @mikegLXIVMM 10 місяців тому

    Solar energy = Indirect Fusion. ☺

  • @dazuk1969
    @dazuk1969 10 місяців тому

    Hey Big C, I did a bit of "research"...did you know the solar panels on the rovers NASA sent to Mars cost 1 million dollars per square inch ?. Don't know why I'm telling you that but I just thought it sounds cool.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  10 місяців тому +1

      Even by NASA standards that seems high.

  • @lukehahn4489
    @lukehahn4489 9 місяців тому

    Clive's one of the few who is tickled to receive bust electronics

  • @richardparsons7012
    @richardparsons7012 10 місяців тому

    So, good or bad? All I got was 'interesting'!

  • @Madness832
    @Madness832 10 місяців тому

    Look like a US C7 string married to a solar panel.

  • @curiosity2314
    @curiosity2314 10 місяців тому

    Congratulations with hitting the one million mark!

  • @BenKonosky
    @BenKonosky 10 місяців тому +2

    You could have channeled your inner Technology Connections and said "Through the magic of [getting] 2, we can take one apart on the bench here."
    Though even if you only got one, you'd still be taking it apart, since we know you couldn't resist doing so.

  • @georgeemanson
    @georgeemanson 10 місяців тому

    Does anyone have a link to buy this solar panel it looks good?

  • @harisdilberovic6528
    @harisdilberovic6528 10 місяців тому

    Ave frowns upon not using unnecessary tools :)

  • @Darieee
    @Darieee 10 місяців тому

    lovely ❤, thanks for taking the time clive !

  • @kirkb4989
    @kirkb4989 10 місяців тому

    Mr. Clive, Have you capacity tested the "1800 mAh" marked 18650 cells to see if they actually ARE 1.8Ah?? Being that they are not marked 18000mAh or 1,000,000 mAh makes me think they may honestly be 1800s...

  • @Zadster
    @Zadster 10 місяців тому

    From the high standard of the circuit, I wonder if these were designed outside China. The PCB does look like a typical Chinese rush job though, loads of unused traces, random flood fills etc.

  • @davelowets
    @davelowets 10 місяців тому

    Many LED flashlights use a variant of the 7136, the 7135, to drive the LED.
    I.I.R.C., the 7135's deliver 400mah each, and some lights use them in parallel to deliver more current to the LED, or they're switched in and out for various light levels.