Why Dr. Phlox Is Actually Star Trek Enterprise's Best Character

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  • @TeargasHorse
    @TeargasHorse Рік тому +147

    I like that Phlox kept a zoo in sickbay. It shows that cures in the "early" days didn't come in a one-of-3-colored vial attached to a hypo spray injector. He was always like, "So you got a headache? Have I got a soborbian sea leach for you!"

    • @weenax
      @weenax Рік тому +12

      I liked that too. In fact , the premise of the enterprise should have resulted in a much much better show than the one we got in the end . Phlox was the only part of the story i liked.

    • @buffalowt
      @buffalowt Рік тому +5

      @@weenaxonce time travel got super involved they kinda lost me, i know its a staple of star trek but time travel usually feels kinda cheap to me and it makes events have less impact in my opinion.

    • @drayle71
      @drayle71 10 місяців тому +3

      @@buffalowt part of the issue is time travel was core to the whole story with the whole temporal cold war being the reason for a lot of the villains ie Silik being controlled by the shadow guy, then you have the Xindi and the sphere-builders, and lastly you have the aliens that travel back to WW2.
      Personally I found enterprise at its best when it was dealing earths pre federation dealings with the early races of the federation such as the andorian/vulcan conflict. Also enjoyed the eugenics wars and not just because Brent Spiner was in it. I guess I enjoyed the show when it was more focused on broadening pre existing canon then making completely new stuff like the Xindi. Which atleast to me is kinda what prequel shows should be about.

    • @oldylad
      @oldylad 4 дні тому

      @@weenaxonly part? Damn you’re either a snob or have bad taste

  • @haggardfalcone
    @haggardfalcone Рік тому +199

    Phlox is amongst the best characters in all of star trek, not just Enterprise.

    • @janeglass6777
      @janeglass6777 Рік тому +7

      Absolutely agree.

    • @adamskeans2515
      @adamskeans2515 Рік тому +8

      He was great, but I think Garak and Quark are better

    • @TowGunner
      @TowGunner Рік тому +4

      Couldn’t agree more. Imo, Billingsley and Blalock carried the show.

    • @jackhynds175
      @jackhynds175 Рік тому +3

      @@adamskeans2515 I agree, although I believe if Phlox got as much screen time and as many story lines as Garak or Quark got, I might be able to argue they are on par

  • @christopherdavis3424
    @christopherdavis3424 Рік тому +360

    “Hoshi is the hot nerd.” FINALLY someone that agrees!!

    • @feralguyver
      @feralguyver Рік тому +34

      Who thinks Hoshi is not hot?

    • @dm121984
      @dm121984 Рік тому +27

      Hoshi was very hot.

    • @nickshaw3619
      @nickshaw3619 Рік тому +26

      I'm not sure who was arguing. She showed up in about as many fanservice scenes as T'Pol and Trip, the other two HVAC techs on the show.

    • @JCIce007
      @JCIce007 Рік тому +6

      Shinzon would certainly agree!

    • @kayseek1248
      @kayseek1248 Рік тому +17

      @@feralguyver you need only watch “In a Mirror, Darkly” to know that.

  • @oddsolostrike
    @oddsolostrike Рік тому +105

    Tripp being stereotyped as "Florida Man" may be my favorite new interpretation of a ST character

    • @Portersona69420
      @Portersona69420 Рік тому +8

      Ironic title considering the Xindi attack.

    • @Donnagata1409
      @Donnagata1409 Рік тому +3

      Sorry, you mean that there are people under 70 living in Florida??? Really???

    • @Portersona69420
      @Portersona69420 Рік тому +4

      @@Donnagata1409 Yup. Just 70. The rest are tourists and wildlife.

    • @borkabrak
      @borkabrak 7 місяців тому +5

      I loved Enterprise apparently more than most, especially Trip. But yeah.. I agree that is a pretty great joke.

  • @TheWanderingFire
    @TheWanderingFire Рік тому +90

    I found Phlox was the most "Star Fleet" member of the crew - he was always about learning about new cultures, and reminded other crew members of their primary mission.

    • @Duchess_Van_Hoof
      @Duchess_Van_Hoof Рік тому +5

      Which is ironic, as he's just there because he happened to know what a Klingon was.

  • @krazzeeaj
    @krazzeeaj Рік тому +67

    Phlox, and to a lesser extent Trip, carried ENT on their backs. I've been saying that since the show first aired. The writers didn't know what they wanted from the captain, they had a set-up for T'Pol that they didn't follow through on, they ignored the hot nerd and the veteran space traveler, and they rendered their solider obsolete by adding space Marines. Phlox and Trip seemed to be the only people who got personality and a solid foundation. Honestly, Phlox is one of the best characters in the franchise and it sucks that we don't have more of him.

    • @TheSchaef47
      @TheSchaef47 10 місяців тому

      They were the two strongest actors on the show, and that pains me to say with Scott Bakula in the cast.

  • @BinaryPickle
    @BinaryPickle Рік тому +253

    Porthos is clearly the best crew member/character.

    • @KristovMars
      @KristovMars Рік тому

      > The Fauves have entered the chat
      > ua-cam.com/video/lxM7sLT0rQE/v-deo.html&feature=shares

    • @steveng.clinard1766
      @steveng.clinard1766 Рік тому +21

      He was a good boy.

    • @agent_meister477
      @agent_meister477 Рік тому +9

      For me it's definitely Chef. 👌
      (Not the Will Riker version 😠)

    • @thetwilightadventures6
      @thetwilightadventures6 Рік тому +10

      Right. After all, Trip even said that Archer would be more comfortable with Porthos on the bridge.

    • @swampcooler8332
      @swampcooler8332 Рік тому +5

      Where do he poo

  • @TheDawnofVanlife
    @TheDawnofVanlife Рік тому +176

    I liked that Phlox had his own moral compass as an alien doctor. Often even when we have alien doctors in Star Trek, they are basically just humans in a facemask. They made some effort to actually make Phlox's approach to things be a cultural different at times.

    • @Parasmunt
      @Parasmunt 10 місяців тому +1

      Dr Selar is not amused! 😣

  • @WildSeven19
    @WildSeven19 Рік тому +73

    One of my favourite Phlox bits is from the first season, where we learn about his species' sleeping habits, explaining why he keeps such strange hours. He's such an interesting character. And he's great when woken up early.

  • @chrisclee6693
    @chrisclee6693 Рік тому +151

    I met John Billingsley at the London Trek Con last year and he was absolutely wonderful to talk to. His performances in ENT were brilliant and a great example of Trek getting it right with truly alien alien characters.

    • @cyberius7042
      @cyberius7042 Рік тому +14

      Yes, Phlox was one of the few Trek characters to come across as actually alien. Relatable enough that you forget most of the time, but then doing or saying something every so often that was just weird and slightly unsettling.

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Рік тому +11

      I met him a few times when we were in a small movie together, and didn't put it together that he was Phlox until the premiere (or more specifically, watching 2012 on a lark and going "oh neat, what else was he... in... SONUVABITCH!" in between filming and said premiere)

    • @KristovMars
      @KristovMars Рік тому +7

      I find it especially satisfying that his alien cultural differences feel relatable, especially as a (mostly) human being who has explored around the edges of a great many subcultures and countercultures here on 20th-21st century Earth.

    • @davidsnow9504
      @davidsnow9504 Рік тому

      KEWL!!

  • @Raminotaur
    @Raminotaur Рік тому +34

    As a Floridian, I loved all the jabs at Florida via Trip. That was super fun to watch!

    • @SFisher1993
      @SFisher1993 Рік тому +2

      I was shocked to find out he’s not from anywhere near there (he’s actually from Washington), because he does a pretty solid southern accent!

  • @TheEvox81
    @TheEvox81 Рік тому +41

    Doctor's Orders is one of my favorite Enterprise episodes. It was a great Phlox episode and Billingsley played someone struggling with solitude perfectly. The balance of depicting T'Pol as both a valued social confidant and yet utterly impotent when it comes to physically doing anything helpful was pretty brilliant.

  • @simmyjester
    @simmyjester Рік тому +10

    "Hippocrates wasn't Denobulan" is one of my favorite lines in all of Trek.

  • @threeofeight197
    @threeofeight197 Рік тому +47

    A bit off topic, but speaking of “dear doctor” I’m reminded of how Dr Crusher would always choose life no matter what the ethical nuances were. She seemed to always share my gut instinct for how and whom to help. Prime directive be damned Beverly will do what is right!!! I always loved the dynamic of her and Picard arguing over the spirit of the law versus the letter of the law.

    • @gunfighterzero
      @gunfighterzero Рік тому

      It wasn't so much about the prime directive as his moral code for changing the natural order and development of a world.
      Imagine how our world would be if an alien race diverted the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs. Would humans have made it past the early developmental stages

    • @rickwrites2612
      @rickwrites2612 Рік тому +3

      Life isn't always the most ethical choice. Usually, but not always.

  • @maevepage606
    @maevepage606 Рік тому +114

    I have had the discussion of "which star trek doctor would you want as your trans health care provider?" with many other trans star trek fans. Phlox always wins first. He delights in differences, he's empathetic, curious, always eager to learn more, always willing to acknowledge he doesn't know everything, and has limitations. These are traits we wish our own often dogmatic healthcare providers had

    • @StarshipVGer
      @StarshipVGer Рік тому +12

      Yeah. I definitely wouldn't want McCoy as my trans healthcare provider. Haa...

    • @tyrant-den884
      @tyrant-den884 Рік тому

      There's also a chance you can have sex with his wife.

    • @leion800
      @leion800 Рік тому +8

      gonna have to go with voyagers doc.

    • @rickwrites2612
      @rickwrites2612 Рік тому +5

      @@leion800 not a bad choice either

    • @WelshMullet
      @WelshMullet Рік тому +7

      Julian is shown to just be able to do a whole body gender swap in record time though. Does he lose out for being less ethical and understanding?

  • @synthetic240
    @synthetic240 Рік тому +153

    I kinda wish the episode with Phlox being alone on the ship ended with Archer playing an edited reel of Phlox wandering the halls nude and saying "You know there are security cameras everywhere, right? Just because you were the only one awake doesn't mean you should be strutting your stuff everywhere."

    • @hankclay1376
      @hankclay1376 Рік тому +35

      I don't think it would have bothered Phlox at all!

    • @TheEvox81
      @TheEvox81 Рік тому +26

      @@hankclay1376 Agreed. But it would have been another great opportunity for Phlox to lecture the humans about being uptight.

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 Рік тому +18

      *always found it very odd that the very obvious fact of the cameras being everywhere on the ship was not brought up more often*

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Рік тому +21

      "And? Wait, don't tell me, this is another one of your human hangups... You really are a fascinating species, but the Vulcans are less uptight."

    • @johngingras
      @johngingras Рік тому +24

      "Why, Captain, what makes you think I wasn't aware of the cameras?" Cue CGI smile.

  • @MrLeafeater
    @MrLeafeater Рік тому +64

    I almost didn't give him a chance; I was so afraid of another Neelix. Love your work.

    • @mrgreatbigmoose
      @mrgreatbigmoose Рік тому +12

      It's how they wrote him. He's a good doctor. The other was a bad cook. Never write someone who's characteristic is bad skills.

    • @chill_will9816
      @chill_will9816 Рік тому +11

      Same. Not to mention the creepy, stretchy face smile. Really glad they didnt feel the need to make him do that ever episode.

    • @515aleon
      @515aleon Рік тому +12

      Whoever wrote his character, made him a "serious character" with a sense of humor and a point to be there vs a silly character with a sense of humor and no point.

    • @TheSorrel
      @TheSorrel Рік тому +6

      He might have been a bad cook, but he was a very good morale officer.

    • @jacklow9611
      @jacklow9611 Рік тому +2

      @@TheSorrel: I didn't find him to be that bad as a character, either. As an "alien" being, the same as Phlox, he just had his own culture that he was raised in, and he attempted to adjust to the culture of the crew he found himself with, and use his skills and knowledge of the other Delta Quadrant denizens to aid them in their journey.

  • @nickshaw3619
    @nickshaw3619 Рік тому +22

    I feel like "Dear Doctor" was a really good story premise, that could have worked, and been uncontroversial, if evolution worked like the writers think it does. Sadly, it doesn't, and that fact turns Dr Phlox from an ethical, humble physician, bowing to the predestined nature of the universe, to a lazy eugenicist. I'm not sure how you'd rewrite the episode so it works, but I really wish the room full of professional writers behind it had done that work, the genesis episode of the Prime Directive deserved better.

    • @gunfighterzero
      @gunfighterzero Рік тому +2

      His ethics were the correct choice for the overall development of that planet

  • @TekuSPZ
    @TekuSPZ Рік тому +16

    I have died with laughter at Florida Man.
    Yes, he is exactly that.

  • @danielgertler5976
    @danielgertler5976 Рік тому +38

    "Is that show any good?" That show is *so* good, an absolute must watch

  • @tyrongkojy
    @tyrongkojy Рік тому +34

    Even if he's not one's favorite, he's certainly the most FUN character.

  • @chazblank2717
    @chazblank2717 Рік тому +25

    I seem to remember Phlox’s species is pretty long lived. Assuming (based on nothing) the species they accidentally genocide 20 million people from have lifespans closer to humans, it might explain some of the cultural tensions, misgivings, resentments and the fear… like, Phlox could personally know people who carried out that genocide if he’s only one or two generations removed from the incident.

    • @Beregorn88
      @Beregorn88 Рік тому

      Even more likely, his "racist" grandma had many parents killed during those wars...

  • @brianburke4756
    @brianburke4756 Рік тому +24

    I loved Phlox as a doctor and as a character. I think one of the episodes you should have talked about was when Phlox was kidnapped by Klingons to help prevent a virus with augmented human DNA, resulting in the deformed cranial ridges, which was shown later in Star Trek, the original series. Phlox really pulled a "Boss" move by exposing the Klingon crew with the virus and forcing them not to destroy the colony world that they were working from, lol. The character was put under immense pressure, but adapted, kept his calm, was smart and cunning. More impressively, he didn't seem to hold any grudges against the Klingons for kidnapping him in the first place, given the circumstances. Maybe he was just experienced enough with people who were infected and desperate doing crazy actions to survive. I, for one, would love to see Phlox on his home-world, maybe when he retired or something, consulting on some matter.

    • @jacklow9611
      @jacklow9611 Рік тому

      An episode set on Denobula would have been very interesting, exploring its landscapes, culture and people. They did it somewhat with Vulcan and Andora a few times, but they didn't do it very often with other worlds.

  • @Willpower-74205
    @Willpower-74205 Рік тому +21

    One of my favorite scenes with Phlox was when he confronted the Vulcan doctor that was examining Archer in "The Expanse."
    "You come to my sickbay under false pretenses? Where are your medical ethics?!"
    Other good Phlox episodes are "Affliction" and "Divergence," when he deceived the Klingons while trying to cure them (without the Augment enhancements that the Klingons were originally aiming for). 🖖😎👍

  • @robhurlocker7040
    @robhurlocker7040 Рік тому +33

    Reflecting on these classic Phlox moments hit me a little differently than the first time I watched the series; because since my only watchthru, I've experienced my own journey of polyamory, parental estrangement, and job conflicts involving ethics. I enjoyed Phlox before; I think I admire him even more deeply now.

  • @Stephen-Fox
    @Stephen-Fox Рік тому +13

    On Phlox's sexuality, which you briefly brought up - They seemed willing to give him agency in his sexuality, something rarely afforded to any other character in Enterprise, be it via the eyeroll inducing decontamination scenes that felt like they were entirely present for the audience's gaze. Or that 'comedy' mpreg rape plot that to my recollection the show refused to acknowledge was a rape plotline in the case of Unexpected.
    ...Meanwhile Keating was attempting to play Reed as gay and just getting nothing from the writers to support it (...Funny how that was a trend for Trek shows in the 90s, actors wanting either their character to be bi or gay, love interests portrayed by someone of their gender, or the show to have gay representation generally and just... That not happening)

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 Рік тому +1

      But Reed is always straight anyway, so I guess that's a good thing.

  • @demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929
    @demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929 Рік тому +14

    " There's no way they're killing off Trip" Followed by the Sarcastic haha's gave me My 1st good laugh of the day. Thanks Steve.

  • @TheBamaChad-W4CHD
    @TheBamaChad-W4CHD Рік тому +15

    Awesome take on the episode with the Antarrens. Like you said Steve, I was also raised with casually racist grandparents. My grandparents didn't hate black people they just didn't understand them and avoided them. They wouldn't treat a black person bad or anything they would just go to the moon and back to avoid them. They were a product of their times. My mother in particular raised me to treat everyone as equals. I've lived my life that way. Also being poor in Alabama in the 80s along side poor black people, white people and Hispanic people helped. None of us kids were any different. We were all BROKE AF. No time to be racist when you are playing in the dirt along side each other and eating the same meals!

  • @happyninja42
    @happyninja42 Рік тому +23

    "Face eaten off by a bath salts cannibal" is probably the most fantastic summation of Florida I've ever seen.

    • @maskedmallard537
      @maskedmallard537 Рік тому +5

      Also sounds like a tagline to an episode of TOS.

  • @vbowen1054
    @vbowen1054 Рік тому +2

    Love the "Tommy from Galaxy Quest" line. Nailed it indeed!

  • @RobMacKendrick
    @RobMacKendrick Рік тому +11

    Been saying this since the beginning. The thing about Phlox is, he's easy-going. Not uptight and judgmental, like a Vulcan; just easy-going. There aren't many other recurring Trek characters like that. (Can't think of one, actually.) It takes real leverage to get under his skin, and very little fazes him in the way of plot complications; dude just has the full measure of self-confidence, without going overboard into arrogance.That's what made him so interesting, on a crew of typical prickly Trek go-getters.

  • @travisbaker8393
    @travisbaker8393 Рік тому +20

    Phlox is great, but I've always gravitated towards Trip. Trip's personality embodied the soul of the series - which was Star Trek but this time with ordinary people exploring the galaxy. I always liked when he talked with aliens and especially T'Pol with his salt-of-the-Earth demeanor clashing against their often-more formal cadences. Plus I think there's something hopeful and very Trek-inspired about a someone who on the surface could be caricatured as a Southern Yokel not only actually being very smart and innovative (he is the chief engineer after all) becoming more open to learn and respect people and cultures from different worlds. Loved that about Trip. Hated that he died for no reason in the finale. Happy the books kindly brought him back.

    • @eriks2962
      @eriks2962 Рік тому +4

      I feel like the writer wanted the audience to identify with Trip more than Archer!

    • @gunfighterzero
      @gunfighterzero Рік тому +1

      You need to meet more southerners

    • @emmaincalico
      @emmaincalico Рік тому +3

      And I loved his friendship with Malcolm

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 Рік тому +2

      ​@@emmaincalicoespecially their banter in Shuttlepod One.

  • @javiervalverde628
    @javiervalverde628 Рік тому +15

    Hi Steve. Great show. I remember a scene in the 2009 Star Trek movie where Scotty explains his exile to that ice planet was because Admiral Archer never forgave him for what he did to his beagle. Funny callback.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 Рік тому +4

      I didn't expect that when I watched for the 11th time.

  • @thomasbarca9297
    @thomasbarca9297 Рік тому +40

    I am upset that John Billingsey was not asked to reprise his role on strange new worlds it was shameful they asked him to reaudition for his role, he was brilliant as Phlox

    • @danielhungler55
      @danielhungler55 Рік тому +3

      Hello, do you have a source that I could read that way I can be upset legitimately?

    • @dalekman9999
      @dalekman9999 Рік тому +4

      My understanding is they didnt even know he played a character in enterprise and wanted him to audition for *another* role in snw.

  • @alfredvalrie5541
    @alfredvalrie5541 Рік тому +25

    John Billingsley is a WIN in whatever show you find him. I remember when Enterprise was released, and Billinglsey appeared in another Paramount property, “Out of Time.” Billingsley is a wonderful character actor. The legacy Star Trek show runners never miscasted the doctors, and Billingsley represented the very best of the great tradition of doctors.

    • @gunfighterzero
      @gunfighterzero Рік тому

      Out of time is such an under appreciated movie. He was great in that

  • @Kinvarus1
    @Kinvarus1 Рік тому +11

    I feel like in Phlox they perfected the sort of jovial wit that Neelix was supposed to have on Voyager. It helps that in Phlox's case he is paired with an actual field of competence. Something Neelix lacked, which is why he rubbed so many people as obnoxious.

  • @evelgreytarot8401
    @evelgreytarot8401 Рік тому +7

    I was worried he was going to be a Neelix. I ended up liking him for multiple reasons including his unending curiosity of culture and science and multi-species knowledge of biology. He's an amazing wealth of knowledge, but still so open-minded. Not stuck to textbooks like so many rl doctors

  • @danielgertler5976
    @danielgertler5976 Рік тому +56

    Trip gets the engineer role but also the "old friend" trope like with riker and deanna, jadzia and sisko, janeway and tuvok.

  • @DarthAzabrush
    @DarthAzabrush Рік тому +112

    Had Enterprise gone to Season 5 we'd probably have found out that the Romulan war really started because Archer nuked them for holding his dog to ransom.

    • @who-ny5oe
      @who-ny5oe 7 місяців тому +3

      I accept it as canon.

    • @onetruefu
      @onetruefu 7 місяців тому +2

      Plausible lol

    • @Wesley_H
      @Wesley_H Місяць тому

      Archer certainly had potential to be a vengeful badass, perhaps even genocidal. But, to invoke a certain green muppet from another notable science fiction franchise, “John Wick, Archer was not.”

  • @seanhillman1016
    @seanhillman1016 Рік тому +222

    I love how Phlox and his extended family show the idea of polyamory and multiple partners in a positive and healthy light.

    • @Mordrevious
      @Mordrevious Рік тому +8

      It woulda been nice if we’d been able to see it on screen instead of just being mentioned occasionally.

    • @jhonbus
      @jhonbus Рік тому +24

      @@sebastiang7394 Right but we're talking about polyamory, not polygamy, religious-or-otherwise.
      Hopefully showing it on Star Trek encouraged people to educate themselves on the subject. _cough cough_

    • @ShikiKiryu
      @ShikiKiryu Рік тому +2

      This!

    • @arcas8423
      @arcas8423 Рік тому +1

      I found him annoying.

    • @ELEKTROSKANSEN
      @ELEKTROSKANSEN Рік тому +3

      Umm dunno, between Phlox's lines you can hear him talking about a society that is familiar with drama, with exhausting family life, which might be the reason his species was so warlike in the past.

  • @theemeraldboars484
    @theemeraldboars484 Рік тому +9

    Enterprise will always have a special place in my heart, as it was the only one I watched every week as it came out and fell in love with the characters.
    While I think you're underselling one of my first crushes in Reed, Phlox is unquestionably the best character and arguably the best doctor across the franchise in my humble opinion. I mean that on a writing level, but also on a literal level- are we forgetting some of the crazy stuff he pulls off with some rather unorthodox medical equipment? Don't insult to McCoy's bag or one of my first crushes in Bashir, but I'd want Phlox on my ship. Him and all his little pets.
    P. S. We all know Shran is the other best character on this show.

  • @StormsparkPegasus
    @StormsparkPegasus Рік тому +30

    Billingsly was awesome. Although my favorite appearance of his (in Enterprise, SG-1, and the Orville), was seeing him antagonize Robert Picardo's character in the Orville. He can play a hideously evil guy really well.
    "Spock of Nine" had me on the floor. Well done.

  • @Talisguy
    @Talisguy Рік тому +46

    Re: the Menk and Valakians, the thing that kills me is that you could have just had Phlox not find a cure and made the dilemma "do we give this slave-owning society warp drive technology to save them from extinction?" At least then a refusal would make *some* sense.

    • @FistoftheSnackBar
      @FistoftheSnackBar Рік тому +10

      They could have also just taken the moral stance of "they enslaved another fully sentient species. Fuck 'em." at least that would have shown some guts.

    • @gunfighterzero
      @gunfighterzero Рік тому +1

      That would have been no less intrusive in thier natural order

    • @rickwrites2612
      @rickwrites2612 Рік тому

      @@richardarriaga6271 but that isn't an option here, the slave race doesn't get to be free unless the masters die, unless the Enterprise is going to go TOTAL interventionist ie the opposite of prime directive, and get into nation building, which takes generations to do successfully. I always thought it was an ethical judgement against the slavers. If they had not been slavers, he would have given them the cure.

    • @rickwrites2612
      @rickwrites2612 Рік тому

      @@farshnuke if they weren't slavers he would've given them the cure obviously. It's just trying to make it look like it's not his decision but nature's/gods.

    • @Talisguy
      @Talisguy Рік тому +1

      @@rickwrites2612 I don't buy that. Phlox actually *defends* the Valakians' treatment of the Menk when another crew member questions it, and tells her to stop being so judgemental about other cultures. The writers clearly did not realise that they wrote the Menk as slaves, because none of the main cast see anything wrong with how they're treated and it does not factor into anyone's thinking at any point during the episode - aside from that one crew member, but she's just told to respect the Valakians' right to treat the Menk like shit because at least the Valakians are not actively committing genocide against them. That was not why he refused to hand over the cure.
      Also, *hard* disagree with the idea that genocide is a justifiable punishment for...well, anything. I'd lose no sleep if the Menk violently overthrew the Valakians and the leaders were all guillotined, but there's a huge moral difference between that and guillotining every single member of a sapient species, including the children. My argument wasn't that it would be morally justifiable to let them all die preventable deaths because their society kept slaves, it was that giving these people Warp Drive technology might be like giving the 19th-century British Empire nuclear power. Giving the Valakian leadership Warp Drive could easily lead to them building an interplanetary slave empire. "You don't know what the consequences would be" would actually be a sensible argument if it was a choice between "allow this entire species to die preventable deaths" or "risk the ruling class abusing your advanced technology to found a powerful slave empire."

  • @lilshaq7
    @lilshaq7 Рік тому +8

    I think you would totally enjoy resident alien!! It’s a solidly written positive world outlook comedy with a touch of drama sci-fi wrapped up in a mystery and of course Alan Tudyk.

  • @andrewspecht6360
    @andrewspecht6360 Рік тому +6

    I see Phlox as the best “point of view” character in Star Trek, he’s in my understanding *the* alien point of view character he’s on the other side of the usual POV character as at this point there’s literally no non human’s officially in Starfleet Phlox is there as an observer watching these crazy humans being both Amused and at times scared to death of them! Yes I know Spock was the outsider character in TOS but his observations are how the humans dont relate to him. Phlox is just bubbling over with WTF do I get to see today!

  • @Hotrob_J
    @Hotrob_J Рік тому +38

    I've only seen the first two seasons of Enterprise, but I loved Phlox. Always nice to see a polyamorous icon in media

    • @Hotrob_J
      @Hotrob_J Рік тому +1

      @@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan that's what I heard, I just never got around to finishing it

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Рік тому +2

      @@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 4 is my favourite of the bunch, mostly because we see a lot more of humanity’s space colonisation in it, rather than solely going places they’d never been before. Cold Station 12, the Luna and Mars colonies, and interstellar diplomacy. (I also like the episodes earlier on with the freighter ships for the same reason.)

  • @madmadge2532
    @madmadge2532 Рік тому +6

    I absolutely ADORE Dr Phlox. I wish we had more material regarding his species and culture. Would absolutely love another Denobulan (probably spelled that wrong) character in new Trek.

  • @demyelinated_ditz
    @demyelinated_ditz Рік тому +6

    I think the most relatable Phlox moment is actually in Similitude. I've made clones to harvest their brains so many times I've lost count, and it's always a struggle to decide whether to kill clone and harvest its brain or heed its desperate pleas for life

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Рік тому +1

      lmao

    • @rickwrites2612
      @rickwrites2612 Рік тому +2

      It was a total cop out to make it seem like Sim chose to sacrifice. He was coerced and basically told they'd kill him either way.

  • @getnohappy
    @getnohappy Рік тому +5

    Great vid as always, "I haven't killed millions... directly" had me laughing out loud (not great as I'm in the office... sshhhh).
    Separately, whenever Enterprise is discussed it reminds me what a waste of potential it was. Esp. Mayweather actually, having a space-trucker as the driver could (read should) have led to all manner of hijinks and character moments, instead of the [struggles to think of any interesting Travis events] we got.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 Рік тому +1

      And not to mention musics dating back to the truckers of old.

  • @LordBloodraven
    @LordBloodraven Рік тому +7

    Phlox's imperfections are what gave him depth and made him relatable.
    He was so... human.

  • @Aezetyr
    @Aezetyr Рік тому +3

    Re: the dog getting sick / A Night in Sickbay. That whole situation was brought on by Archer. It's his fault the dog is sick. He willingly brought the dog down to an unknown planet, and exposed it to whatever pathogens, diseases and so on that the planet has. The dog does what dogs do, and then he got sick. Yeah, that sucks, but at the end of the day Archer was willing to strand his crew in the ass-end of space (they were out of spare "plasma injectors") years away from Earth or any friendly ship all because he was racist (specist) towards the Kretassans for their "strange" behaviors. That's the mark of an incompetent and morally dubious lunatic, not a Starfleet Captain. The Kretassans were mad because the dog pissed on their sacred trees, and all they wanted was an apology on their terms. Archer was willing to kill his entire crew, and the dog, because he was unwilling to swallow his pride and apologize for the dogs actions; until it was the last possible minute and FINALLY acquiesced. Which is why I say Archer is an experiment to show what would happen if a completely unprepared and incompetent person were put in charge of a Starship. Whether that was intentional or not is left to the writers/creators of Enterprise. Why Archer is seen on lists of Great Captains in future series/movies and has spacedocks named after him is beyond me.

  • @bronxbl0gr
    @bronxbl0gr Рік тому +6

    The Berman Era had it's shortcomings; with "Enterprise" being the Apotheosis (of sorts) for those quirks.
    But I have to say Characters that could've been reduced to mere Comic Relief were given dramatic range/Depth,
    I'm thinking of Phlox,Neelix,and Quark Respectively

  • @eriks2962
    @eriks2962 Рік тому +36

    Don't get me wrong I love Phlox! But I find most of the characters on Enterprise to be very relatable. I think it's because the show is built so to have characters more like current era humans.
    Hoshi is a complete and utter language nerd. If it's not about language she doesn't care or she'll bring it back to a linguistic topic.I have a friend just like that (but a biology nerd).
    I relate to Archer a fair amount. He starts a new job very excited and he realizes that it's nothing like he expected it to be. And it kind of suck. And he doesn't really know what he is doing. Who has NOT been there?

    • @GuineaPigEveryday
      @GuineaPigEveryday Рік тому +1

      I like Enterprise’s characters, i mean even Malcolm gets a little interesting/sympathetic. But man it was so damn annoying seeing how Enterprise felt like taking another step back, it felt more old-fashioned/conservative in terms of casting a bit like Voyager. Especially becuz its the early 2000s and the writers literally only included American/Anglo characters for the humans. THREE of the main cast are American, one is a Korean-American actress, another is British, and then we have two aliens. But seriously why the hell did they have to have such boring stereotypical American characters, mr florida and mr nantucket from whatever southern state he’s from. The fun of star trek is the diverse backgrounds, let alone their personalities. I think after DS9 the diversity/uniqueness of the crew really seemed to falter a lot, like no one could think to give any character a non-Anglo background??? I mean get rid of Travis first of all cuz he’s the character clearly abandoned by the writers with nothing interesting. Malcolm is so plain and not much beyond military-raised British dude. And the Captain is an interesting character but with no interesting background. Hoshi is cool if they’d actually use her more

  • @davidduffield7902
    @davidduffield7902 Рік тому +1

    OMG you are one of the funniest people I have ever heard! Great Show. Appreciate the laughs and loved "magic breast implant" and "grows up so fast you'd think his parents are Troi and Tinkerbell." 😆

  • @robhurlocker7040
    @robhurlocker7040 Рік тому +33

    Ethical Nonmonogamy is tragically underrepresented (as are many other groups), so phlox is much appreciated!

    • @marcwolf60
      @marcwolf60 Рік тому +3

      I can speak personally on that one.

  • @HappyBeezerStudios
    @HappyBeezerStudios Рік тому +4

    I agree, Phlox was great for all the mentioned reasons. In some way Dr. Phlox is like Dr. Zoidberg. Both are from a different species and culture amongst a mostly human crew, and those differences become part of the character, without becoming the all the character is.
    And Archer as lead had the opportunity to mess up first contact with many of the known Trek species, and he didn't disappoint on that front.
    And what I love the most about "Dear Doctor" is that it stays ambiguous whether or not the crew made the right choice.
    We have many episodes where our heroes end up being forced to influence a civilization and have to make a choice, and usually the option they choose end up being the right one. The shows tell us that much. But in "Dear Doctor" they don't. There is talk if changing the course is their right to do and which option is the morally right one.
    And in the end the choice Archer (as the captain) and Phlox (as the professional in the field) go with is ambiguous.
    I guess that is why people are so split about the episode. Our heroes don't do the obviously "good" thing and some people don't like that, while others enjoy seeing a crew with flaws to outgrow.
    And "The Breach" reminds me of the Voyager episode "Jetrel", where we get two species that had nasty conflicts in the past and who still distrust each other. With one who decides that he should make good on what people in the past did and trying to convince the person from the other culture that they should leave the past behind.
    "Similitude" reminds me of "Tuvix" and "Doctor's Orders" reminds me of "One", in both cases Voyager had a similar premise for the episode (sacrificing one person for another and going around an area taking to long, so they put everyone to sleep and one person has to fly the ship), but both shows go at it differently.

  • @OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout
    @OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout Рік тому +3

    Nice job going all Honest Trailers when you named the crew.

  • @_NIKOS9_NIKOS
    @_NIKOS9_NIKOS Рік тому +7

    Honestly, I dont count the episode "Dear Doctor" when trying to form an oppinion about Phlox and Archer. This is one of those episodes where the characters are not doing terrible things due to their establishe personalities/flaws/beliefs but because the writers forced them to make those things so the plot could happen

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Рік тому +1

      Same. Also with Progenitor. I know people who refuse to even look at those two characters because of these two episodes, but I can basically put it out of my mind as “not canon” for the characters’ values and motivations.

  • @codasylphanthi2187
    @codasylphanthi2187 Рік тому +7

    I haven't made it through the full video yet so maybe you mention this, but my favorite part of Phlox's character was that he truly was as curious and excited to explore the universe as the human characters. The Vulcans in Enterprise give off the impression that they have no interest in exploration (even though they clearly do and their objection to that characterization seems purely semantic but my issues with the Vulcans, particularly in Enterprise could not be summarized in the character limit of a youtube comment...) And the Andorians seem to only care about expansion. Season 1 in general seems to try to imply that curiosity is a uniquely human trait which, I find very lame. Anyway, it was very gratifying to see a non-human character display the kind of curiosity and lust for adventure that is often reserved for human characters in this kind of media and especially for whatever reason in Enterprise. Also Phlox's healthy supportive relationship with his polycule is goals.

  • @OrinSorinson
    @OrinSorinson Рік тому +6

    I had a pretty terrible night with a medical emergency, hospital and no sleep and I was thinking about Phlox's weird smile and how little sleep he needs. Oh how I wish I could sleep as little as that and live a perfectly healthy life. I could doom scroll twice as much.

  • @darth-imperius
    @darth-imperius Рік тому +5

    Oh man 🤣🤣🤣 the 'Trip is Tuvix' & 'Archer is Janeway' thing 😂😂😂

  • @citizenVader
    @citizenVader Рік тому +2

    I was hilariously fun-struck in the third season of what we do in the shadows, as lazlo, Nadiya and Nandor found Scott Bacula's facetime, and tried to expose him as a vampire in hiding..

  • @WDCallahan
    @WDCallahan Рік тому +2

    Phlox made me laugh like never before on many occasions.

  • @kcspain9195
    @kcspain9195 Рік тому

    This is one of the best down to earth commentated videos i think ive ever watched... LMAO... Bravo Sir....

  • @GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture
    @GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture Рік тому +48

    My dad would relate to Phlox. He tried to bring up my sister, brother and myself without the stupidity of his generation when it came to race, ethnicity, religion, etc, and he was successful in that. He said that was one of the things that brought made him proud, that his children were not repeating the stupidity of his generation. At the same time, he said one of his two biggest regrets of his life was that he could not completely rid himself of his generation’s stupidity. That made me respect him all the more, that he was self-aware of his own flaws and that he could overcome them to do what was right.

  • @fisk0
    @fisk0 Рік тому +1

    Even before Enterprise went all Space War on Terror, I thought of Archer as a stand-in for George Bush. He even looked the part to a scary degree.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Рік тому

      That’s really interesting, a gf of mine calls him Space George Bush too. I’ve never seen the similarity - if anything I think Bakula looks more like Bush Sr, but even that is a stretch to me. Maybe I’m focused too much on how narrow Bakula’s head is compared to W’s, and maybe you’re focusing more on other aspects.

  • @darwinskeeper421
    @darwinskeeper421 Рік тому +1

    I agreed with you about Phlox being Enterprise's best character even before watching this. He was definitely eccentric and could be goofy and funny but he also had as much gravitas as any other character of the show.

  • @WolfRamAndHart
    @WolfRamAndHart Рік тому +2

    24:10 Ah, yes. Using an ice-cream scoop to help with the brain surgery. If Mr. Burns in a Simpsons Halloween special can make it work, it's good enough for future Star Trek!

  • @JanetStarChild
    @JanetStarChild Рік тому +5

    Trip and Archer morphing into Tuviks and Janeway caught me so off guard that I had to pause the video to literally laugh out loud!

  • @KeeDaMok
    @KeeDaMok Рік тому +1

    Hey Steve! Thanks for making my day better with this wonderful video!

  • @schipperkesandhonoraryschi8515

    Hippocrates was not Denobulan😂. Great line in the episode not quoted here, great episode.
    I absolutely love Enterprise, and love the character interaction of the cast, Phlox is an interesting character.
    Archer is ENTs best character IMO as he has the most complex moral dilemmas, especially in season 3, character growth re relationship with Vulcan etc.
    I always enjoy your comedic narration of the various episode descriptions

  • @Poleson
    @Poleson Рік тому +2

    While I agree that Phlox is the best I have to stick up for T'Pol. She ended up being one of my favourite Trek characters and absolutely one of the most underrated

  • @SentinelBayReviews
    @SentinelBayReviews Рік тому +3

    I finally came around to watch Enterprise for the first time. And I got to say, it's been a fantastic show so far. Well fleshed out characters, appealing stories and a strong own identity. I feel like this one is a real underrated gem, and Phlox for sure is the most interesting of the bunch.

  • @mrgreatbigmoose
    @mrgreatbigmoose Рік тому +5

    They certainly tried to do the eccentric alien before. Phlox could have turned out to be a clown. Yes he was slapstick, but they MADE him competent. For which i am thankful.
    By contrast, they wrote inept cooking into Neelix's character. Had he been an effective chef, he would not have come across as goofy.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Рік тому +1

      Ironically Neelix was actually a decent chef by about halfway through the show, once he finally stopped being Local Guide. But then his reputation stuck.

  • @Raye938
    @Raye938 Рік тому

    oh my god "tommy from galaxy quest" nailed it. I know nailed it was in the quote but I'm saying you nailed it.

  • @mkang8782
    @mkang8782 Рік тому +4

    I think I said this in our exchange on Twitter when you announced you were working on this video, but Phlox is my favorite CMO. No disrespect intended towards "Bones" (OG or Urban), or any of the others. There's something about the character that really appeals to me.

  • @KougajiCalling
    @KougajiCalling Рік тому +1

    Phlox is actually my favorite character on Enterprise. He's just amazing.

  • @jjsshenanegans
    @jjsshenanegans Рік тому

    Flox was my favorite too. Every time he spoke I learned something.

  • @SplashesInPuddles
    @SplashesInPuddles Рік тому +5

    I love the sarcastic ways you describe whats happening in the videos. It is one of my favorite things you do.

  • @demoniaprince9206
    @demoniaprince9206 Рік тому +2

    Tommy from Galaxy Quest, lol. That had me laughing so hard, I started to cough bad lol.

  • @Tristan_eCola
    @Tristan_eCola 7 місяців тому +1

    Phlox and Shran were my two main draws of the show.

  • @jackfoxx6351
    @jackfoxx6351 11 місяців тому +1

    "Spock of nine" killed me lol

  • @TheLittlekuribohfan
    @TheLittlekuribohfan Рік тому +5

    Resident Alien is legitimately hilarious

  • @Ken-fh4jc
    @Ken-fh4jc Рік тому +1

    I always forget about the Trip clone episode that was a pretty good episode.

  • @SKBottom
    @SKBottom Рік тому +5

    The good doctor was certainly one of my favorites. Such an engaging personality and such a kindness and desire to help others.

  • @christopherhastings134
    @christopherhastings134 Рік тому +1

    The bit about Porthos no selling had me rolling 😆 🤣

  • @CrystalblueMage
    @CrystalblueMage Рік тому +2

    If he gets to learn everything Trip knows, maybe it _is_ a good idea to learn him to read :D

  • @Starham2000
    @Starham2000 Рік тому +3

    I recommend watching Resident Alien if you’re down for fish out of water comedy specifically. Important: it’s a show about an alien trying to fit into human society, not House but and alien.

    • @Donnagata1409
      @Donnagata1409 Рік тому

      There's a novel by Eduardo Mendoza, "No news from Gurb". If you like alien POV, that's a treat.

  • @BryanJ76
    @BryanJ76 Рік тому +3

    Easily my favorite character in Enterprise. Second series in a row (Voyager) where the doc was the best and most interesting character.

  • @NZBigfoot
    @NZBigfoot Рік тому +4

    Phlox was definitely one of the best parts of Enterprise... and yes Resident Alien is well worth watching.

  • @bloodybones5303
    @bloodybones5303 Рік тому

    Really relate to what you said. About growing up surrounded by people with bigoted attitudes, and living a life rejecting those beliefs and the need to always remember where you came from. It's such an important thing.

  • @cygryl
    @cygryl Рік тому +3

    He's the best main character. Cause we all know the best Character is Shran.

  • @tyrant-den884
    @tyrant-den884 Рік тому +3

    Alien disses Porthos.
    Archer: "We'll nuke the planet. It's the only way to be sure."

  • @tinycmo
    @tinycmo Рік тому +1

    Scott played a character, and played it well. Phlox..became a new lifeform and was the best part ofnthe show.

  • @real_fjcalabrese
    @real_fjcalabrese Рік тому +4

    Dr. Phlox was a great character, and John Billingsley was amazing!

  • @OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout
    @OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout Рік тому +3

    Do you think the writers knew what they were doing with "Regeneration", where Phlox came up with a treatment for being assimilated by the Borg? They HAD to know people were going to question that, right?

  • @leafbelly
    @leafbelly Рік тому +3

    Getting ready to watch now, but I will pre-emptively say that I whole-heartedly agree! Love me some Phlox. BTW: There's a great interview with Billingsley on the Enterprise podcast (with Connor Trinneer and Dominic Keating) on UA-cam.

  • @KerwoodBand
    @KerwoodBand Рік тому

    Phlox was definitely the most interesting member of the crew, and his presence contextualized Enterprise as its own thing - humans who don't know a lot about space venturing out anyway.
    Robert Picardo's Doctor will always hold a special place in my heart, but I loved the Asmovian technical and logical arcs he presented more perhaps than the Doctor growing "as a person." Phlox was fun because we didn't need to see him grow from infancy like the Doctor or Data. He was a fully-fleshed character from the beginning, dealing with a lifetime of experience and baggage.

  • @aschen
    @aschen Рік тому +3

    i can't argue with this. phlox and maybe archer are the only characters on the show that feel like they could have fell into the other shows. Phlox and The Doctor are by far my favorite medical officers.

  • @gabrielcastejon7914
    @gabrielcastejon7914 Рік тому

    15:00 That pulled on my heartstrings
    What a beautiful scene