That's cool. So basically it's two state-of-the-art amps in one that can preamp, input switch, input mix, analog bass-shelf, analog treble-shelf and analog mid-side EQ. I don't know what makes this thing cost so much money, but its features seem actually useful.
@@Tacet137 I don't think those are comparable products. One is a low latency digital interface for recording, the other is a analog amp for mastering/listening.
I see some of the technology of this amp trickling down eventually. Either analog or digital. This is a great statement piece for the rest of the market to catch up to and hopefully, the price comes down.
Those types of comments are not useful. Remember to always mention what are you considering it better compared to. Have you tried Holo Audio Bliss, Ferrum Oor+Hypsos, Enleum AMP-23R etc.?
Andrew - at CanJam in SoCal, you tried the DCA Stealth on the ampsandsound Nautilus and at the time, you said it was the best you heard it. How does this compare to that sound?
after watching this video for which i thank you very much i found some lab report It is somewhat pleasant to see that great sound and impeccable measured performance can go hand in hand I wonder if this can be generalized i.e. that always great mesurements will translate in great sound In a subjective world i like some objectiveness very much
Whenever you guys make a video about expensive gear the whole ASR forum goes on a holy crusade to bestow us mere mortals the knowledge of the Topping, the RME and the Holy Spirit.
haha yeah that does happen. But it's okay, stuff should sound good, and also not be broken. So I support the measuring of things as well, and welcome the ASR faithful to check out what we're doing. As I mentioned in a recent live stream, the best way to review - at least in my opinion - is to do both objective and subjective evaluations, because at some point, you HAVE to actually listen to the thing. The reason for this is that even though human fallibility is a real problem, at some level, how it sounds is the most important thing in the end.
@@susokraut3169 you know what's funny? I always say DACs and amps don't make a meaningful or proportional difference after a certain point. This was different.
@@susokraut3169 so, I welcome any folks from the ASR forums, but we're approaching all of this stuff with an open mind to real science. That is to say, I lean objective in the sense that if it can be heard, it can be measured. But that means it's worth trying to understand what's going on beyond the dogma on concepts like sinad, or what gets described as 'transparency'. My contention is that either the analysis of existing metrics is incomplete, or there's something we're not capturing. And that's why I approach this stuff from a "let's find out" perspective, rather than to make pronouncements about how things 'are'. Also, ABX may help reveal things here. There are already positive results from that type of testing that indicate we shouldn't be so confident about the existing or typical analysis of this stuff in measurements.
Came here to ask the same thing. Then remembered it on a Feliks Envy Headphoneshow video. Took a screenshot, uploaded to Google Image search and returned the answer: Hifi Rose Streamer. Convenient streamer and DAC combo for shows.
Did anyone notice that DMS appears to have a spasm in his left foot after listening to this audio tech? We can’t see Resolve’s feet but it makes me wonder if they are using heavy electrons to enhance the sound field. If so, this would be a major ream through for EDM. 🤔
Once absorbed, the Heavy Electrons will gravitate to the lower extremities causing the subject to kick vigorously in an unconscious attempt to throw the electrons out. When observed by others this is often misinterpreted as a verticlated slam-dance which will sometimes even draw small crowds and spark applause.
King? I think we have at least 4 other SS amps in the mix. Perhaps 6… I think the concern here is the features can quickly turn to gimmicks and sacrifice outright sq performance. Just like the phonitor.
@@aceofspades6667 I think since Holo Audio Bliss has came out, it edged out all of the aforementioned amps, unfortunately including the PL Ferrum stack, which pains me a bit, since it seemed like it's dominating the head-amp market SQ-wise noticeably enough for it to last some good years. But the fuckin' and amazing Jeff Zhu appeared on the horizon.
It was a pleasant enough conversation, but from the sound of it, neither of them actually understands what class A or feedback actually signify an amp circuit. Most discrete class A designs still use feedback. Not sure why anyone would pick this amp over something like a gsx mini, cfa3 or susy dynahi if they wanted a high end SS HP amp. What makes it better than a Jot2 or Singxer for that matter? Mixing knobs on the inputs seems to be the main selling point?
@@susokraut3169 most certainly is a bold assumption while you never even heard the product AND do the ABX testing yourself. I support and believe in objective methods but sometimes it's just annoying to see how SINAD-based people say it like it's gospel. - original "$100 SOTA headamp" user.
@@susokraut3169 At that high end of a price range it’s like buying fine wine, you spend thousands more for 1% in improved “performance”, in quotes, because it’s usually just subtle hardware nuances that can effect the sound. Could be you love it or hate it. If you love it that’s gonna cost ya.
@@susokraut3169 At this point, measurements are meaningless since almost all amps are perfectly neutral (FR) and have super low distortion far below human hearing. If you have the chance, try multiples amps side by side like the A90, some THX amp and a Rebel amp. They all measure flat, they all have great measurements but they all have a different sound.
@@siddhantdeepful cheap compared to dCS amps, price gouging compared to Topping. Depends what store you’re shopping in. They’ll sell though, just off someone hearing Resolve say that it’s the best, or sounded sparkly, I can’t remember. I’d love to try it but even the reviewers aren’t paying that kinda ka-Ching for amps. Pretty steep but it offers a lot of quality of life features.
Makes no sense getting this amp . Simply go for the Warwick acoustics bravura headphone system. You get a DAC , amp and connection with the headphone for less than that . All in one unit that rocks 🔥🔥🔥
I think you have to 'believe' in amps like this to justify the price. The features are nice but can be easily reproduced with a digital device like an RME ADI 2. Add an AHB2 and you have all the features and all the power
@@juliangst you have the power but not the quality of power. Their are smsl amps with more power than this on a spec sheet. They melt when low ohms, low efficiency planars are plugged into them.
And only 50 lucky people on earth get to have one of these??? Wow. I imagine this is the type of amp to not really lose value on the used market due to its scarcity.
The legendary Douglas Stephens nails that interview with style! I bet when you plug in the Abyss Diana TC headphone onto that solid state amp while playing Resident Evil 8 Village on your Series X or your Playstation 5, you will go nuts!! So much dials to increase the bass will make you more immersive!! You and Andrew are pretty much the dynamic duo of high end audio, just one day wear a domino mask and a cape, just kidding!🏆🏉
Hmm... Mixing best of solid state with analog Sound manipulation sounds really great. Lets add a tube option and i am willing to spend a quarter of the price? But then I dont have any good music! To clarify, I have a lot of good music and even a lot of well recorded music. But for a system like this either the recording is too bad or the music is too shite (sorry Jazz Fans). And If i get together with the musicians I know id rather jam with them and listen to the live music than record, mix and master stuff...
Extra Mixer? Not needed, extra EQ ? not needed (have a much better one: Drawmer 1974) So, i dont think this Concept is an Endgame...,,U will always need seperate Hardware for better and more Possibilities.
Wouldn't probably see you out in the street talking shit about Ferrari and Lamborghini cars that cost over 1M$ right? It wasn't made for you, and the fact that this amp exists won't suddenly make your setup sount like crap.
@@susokraut3169 on the other hand what? doesn't sound better? i have a prima luna and a topping amp i prefer one over the other, that's all the objectivist and subjectivist data i need and before you go over in an attempt of an idiotic rant, please realize that most likely you are a layman compared to actual senior engineers so don't even try with me ( you 30, 40, 60 year-old whatever) kid
@@susokraut3169 define bass and "show" what does it sound like or just attempt metaphysics and tell me by showing me what's it supposed to sound like ........then proceed to define and standardize stuff like "transparency, translucent-ness, opaqueness" and why would we need a "linear" response .
@@susokraut3169 Each and every one of you ASR folks keep saying the same things over and over again like a broken record, truly the definition of crowd psychology. Your opinion is irrelevant and has no consequence.
That's cool. So basically it's two state-of-the-art amps in one that can preamp, input switch, input mix, analog bass-shelf, analog treble-shelf and analog mid-side EQ. I don't know what makes this thing cost so much money, but its features seem actually useful.
so in other words much less features than Motu UltraLite mk5 but 12x as expensive
@@Tacet137 I don't think those are comparable products. One is a low latency digital interface for recording, the other is a analog amp for mastering/listening.
Very cool that it has mid/side processing on board. This is a real advancement in amplifier design
@@susokraut3169 RME is doing everything digitally. The crazy thing about this is that everything is being done entirely in the analog domain
@@susokraut3169 Some people do care :)
Terrific!! Really appreciate this. Nice interview. :)
I appreciate these types of interviews. It would be interesting to know how the HM-1 compares to the DCS Lina HP amplifier.
The VP of Sales at Zähl doesn't abuse you
Very professional interview, Mr. DMS
I've definitely never heard a "Sifted Sizzle" from my Audio Gear and Headphones. Very interesting interview btw
Wow, the perfect gaming amp. Now I can combine the feed from my console with listening to music.
Buy a mixer😂
lol
"New king eh? Let me take a look".
Price: 8.000 dollars
"I will never be able to confirm that".
I’m just glad that the Extreme Shit is out there, existing, for somebody else
I see some of the technology of this amp trickling down eventually. Either analog or digital.
This is a great statement piece for the rest of the market to catch up to and hopefully, the price comes down.
Fantastic interview, any chance you want to take a look at our Soloist GT for your next headphone amp review?
What I really like is how affordable the HM1 will be, they should be able to sell thousands of these things.
LOL
1 of the best head amps I’ve heard
Those types of comments are not useful. Remember to always mention what are you considering it better compared to. Have you tried Holo Audio Bliss, Ferrum Oor+Hypsos, Enleum AMP-23R etc.?
@@Peace_Guard my comments are useful to me, I remember to mention what I wish & I’ve tried many high end head amps
Andrew - at CanJam in SoCal, you tried the DCA Stealth on the ampsandsound Nautilus and at the time, you said it was the best you heard it. How does this compare to that sound?
does it come with a remote? Can you get a 2m power cable for the umbilical?
after watching this video for which i thank you very much i found some lab report
It is somewhat pleasant to see that great sound and impeccable measured performance can go hand in hand I wonder if this can be generalized i.e. that always great mesurements will translate in great sound In a subjective world i like some objectiveness very much
Whenever you guys make a video about expensive gear the whole ASR forum goes on a holy crusade to bestow us mere mortals the knowledge of the Topping, the RME and the Holy Spirit.
haha yeah that does happen. But it's okay, stuff should sound good, and also not be broken. So I support the measuring of things as well, and welcome the ASR faithful to check out what we're doing. As I mentioned in a recent live stream, the best way to review - at least in my opinion - is to do both objective and subjective evaluations, because at some point, you HAVE to actually listen to the thing. The reason for this is that even though human fallibility is a real problem, at some level, how it sounds is the most important thing in the end.
When in doubt F ASR = the answer
@@susokraut3169 right on cue hahah
@@susokraut3169 you know what's funny? I always say DACs and amps don't make a meaningful or proportional difference after a certain point. This was different.
@@susokraut3169 so, I welcome any folks from the ASR forums, but we're approaching all of this stuff with an open mind to real science. That is to say, I lean objective in the sense that if it can be heard, it can be measured. But that means it's worth trying to understand what's going on beyond the dogma on concepts like sinad, or what gets described as 'transparency'. My contention is that either the analysis of existing metrics is incomplete, or there's something we're not capturing. And that's why I approach this stuff from a "let's find out" perspective, rather than to make pronouncements about how things 'are'. Also, ABX may help reveal things here. There are already positive results from that type of testing that indicate we shouldn't be so confident about the existing or typical analysis of this stuff in measurements.
Is the width setting similar to a variable crossfeed?
Thank you for the video. Great info. It made me realize that this is not the amp for me.
Thanks!
Do you think DCA Noire , DCA Stealth would pair well with tube amp like schitt lyr or mojo 2 or Cayin ru6 will be enough to run these?
Interested how does this amp compared to niimbus
Now I just need to sell one of my kidneys
maybe that's a stupid question. can I let solid state Amplifier (Brooklyn Bridge) play for 20 hours? (This is about headphones burn in)
Would be good if we could see the inside Please
How do you connect to a stereo receiver? Thx.
I see you DMS with that Ω Aqua Terra.
Cool guy and cool product, didn't know he lives in the city i drove through so often with my bicycle :D
It's as if DMS is interviewing himself in 25-30 years
bwahahaha nice catch
Review of AUDEZE MM 500 please
I think that their consoles are great and have some really use features. But a headphone amp this expensive?
Does anyone know what streamer that is?
Came here to ask the same thing. Then remembered it on a Feliks Envy Headphoneshow video. Took a screenshot, uploaded to Google Image search and returned the answer: Hifi Rose Streamer. Convenient streamer and DAC combo for shows.
I would really appreciate it if you talked about the headphone jack on the MacBook pro m1 2021. Can it replace my zen den?
Did anyone notice that DMS appears to have a spasm in his left foot after listening to this audio tech? We can’t see Resolve’s feet but it makes me wonder if they are using heavy electrons to enhance the sound field. If so, this would be a major ream through for EDM. 🤔
Once absorbed, the Heavy Electrons will gravitate to the lower extremities causing the subject to kick vigorously in an unconscious attempt to throw the electrons out. When observed by others this is often misinterpreted as a verticlated slam-dance which will sometimes even draw small crowds and spark applause.
King? I think we have at least 4 other SS amps in the mix. Perhaps 6… I think the concern here is the features can quickly turn to gimmicks and sacrifice outright sq performance. Just like the phonitor.
Nimbus us5
Vio v550
Mass Kobo
Oji
Flux Volot
Soloist 3gt
Oor/Hypsos
Enleum new amps
Luxman p750 mk2
All in the discussion
@@aceofspades6667 We have Enleum at the office actually. So that's on my list to steal from Taron as well.
@@ResolveReviews I think you need to get Taron a new toy to play with so you can test it out.
@@aceofspades6667 yes
@@aceofspades6667 I think since Holo Audio Bliss has came out, it edged out all of the aforementioned amps, unfortunately including the PL Ferrum stack, which pains me a bit, since it seemed like it's dominating the head-amp market SQ-wise noticeably enough for it to last some good years. But the fuckin' and amazing Jeff Zhu appeared on the horizon.
nice
i went to check the price...... ok, thank you i will retreat back to my hole....
It is $8K guys.
Limited to 50 per year. Synthetic price pushing.
its like 8000 dollars... I think its more a question of it being silly to build more because this market is rather small
Also, the production of each unit may not be a typical production line. So each unit may take time and personal attention to produce.
i wish the designers would be smart enough to make an amplifier of comparable quality for a lot less money
It was a pleasant enough conversation, but from the sound of it, neither of them actually understands what class A or feedback actually signify an amp circuit. Most discrete class A designs still use feedback. Not sure why anyone would pick this amp over something like a gsx mini, cfa3 or susy dynahi if they wanted a high end SS HP amp. What makes it better than a Jot2 or Singxer for that matter? Mixing knobs on the inputs seems to be the main selling point?
I'm sure Michael Zähl knows less about Class A Amps than you omegaLUL
@@susokraut3169 most certainly is a bold assumption while you never even heard the product AND do the ABX testing yourself. I support and believe in objective methods but sometimes it's just annoying to see how SINAD-based people say it like it's gospel.
- original "$100 SOTA headamp" user.
I wonder if the £2000 headphones make it sound better
For £6999 they should give you headphones
Shame the intro was on a Mr speakers set of headphones. They aren't really that good.
Price?
$7,999.99, no joke.
@@jeremymiller3305 so much for considering that. It blows my mind why they or anyone else is surprised that it sounds amazing - it better for 8K.
What makes the amp so good? Is it better than the A90?
Linear and isolated power supply, lots of high end components, features, manufacturing exclusivity, rest assured it’s 4K+++
@@ChaseHub It's 8k LOL
@@versaleyang just saw after posting, lol. Hit the nail on the head with the exclusivity though, a mere 50 manufactured per year.
@@susokraut3169 At that high end of a price range it’s like buying fine wine, you spend thousands more for 1% in improved “performance”, in quotes, because it’s usually just subtle hardware nuances that can effect the sound. Could be you love it or hate it. If you love it that’s gonna cost ya.
@@susokraut3169 At this point, measurements are meaningless since almost all amps are perfectly neutral (FR) and have super low distortion far below human hearing. If you have the chance, try multiples amps side by side like the A90, some THX amp and a Rebel amp. They all measure flat, they all have great measurements but they all have a different sound.
Only 8 grand 😬, ah well, sounds like it'd be a fun time. But my imagination will have to suffice.
The more it costs the better fake reactions.
The amp itself is even more more expensive that my entire dream speaker setup.
What’s it cost
The link in the description pegs it at 8k USD
@@siddhantdeepful cheap compared to dCS amps, price gouging compared to Topping. Depends what store you’re shopping in. They’ll sell though, just off someone hearing Resolve say that it’s the best, or sounded sparkly, I can’t remember. I’d love to try it but even the reviewers aren’t paying that kinda ka-Ching for amps. Pretty steep but it offers a lot of quality of life features.
Makes no sense getting this amp . Simply go for the Warwick acoustics bravura headphone system.
You get a DAC , amp and connection with the headphone for less than that . All in one unit that rocks 🔥🔥🔥
Crazy expensive 😭
But the price though 8 grand ;(
Now make it cost $1500, with an option for no special extra features.
Bakoon amp 13r is amazing with the Susvara and it's cheaper than this model
Yes and the AHB2 is cheaper than the 13r and is also amazing.
I think you have to 'believe' in amps like this to justify the price. The features are nice but can be easily reproduced with a digital device like an RME ADI 2. Add an AHB2 and you have all the features and all the power
No, just no. Stop this ignorant cringe please.
@@mariodrv So what are your arguments?
@@juliangst none. he just wants to talk shit
I'm generally quite skeptical on amps and sources in general. That's why this one was so surprising to me.
@@juliangst you have the power but not the quality of power. Their are smsl amps with more power than this on a spec sheet. They melt when low ohms, low efficiency planars are plugged into them.
This amplifier is against my religion
"It should not colour the sound, it should be realistic" ..Topping THX got that down 😄
What in this amp is worth 8000$?
It would be nice to know since this interview was completly useless, not a single technical information.
And only 50 lucky people on earth get to have one of these??? Wow. I imagine this is the type of amp to not really lose value on the used market due to its scarcity.
"If you have headphones which don't colour the sound"... Well, such headphones don't exist... For a 8k device the built-in eq is far to limited.
The legendary Douglas Stephens nails that interview with style! I bet when you plug in the Abyss Diana TC headphone onto that solid state amp while playing Resident Evil 8 Village on your Series X or your Playstation 5, you will go nuts!! So much dials to increase the bass will make you more immersive!! You and Andrew are pretty much the dynamic duo of high end audio, just one day wear a domino mask and a cape, just kidding!🏆🏉
Hmm...
Mixing best of solid state with analog Sound manipulation sounds really great.
Lets add a tube option and i am willing to spend a quarter of the price?
But then I dont have any good music!
To clarify, I have a lot of good music and even a lot of well recorded music.
But for a system like this either the recording is too bad or the music is too shite (sorry Jazz Fans).
And If i get together with the musicians I know id rather jam with them and listen to the live music than record, mix and master stuff...
$$$$$$$$
I'm jealous, DMS got to listen to the DCA stealth the best headphone in the world that's under 5,000 dollars.
Far from the best headphone
Extra Mixer? Not needed, extra EQ ? not needed (have a much better one: Drawmer 1974)
So, i dont think this Concept is an Endgame...,,U will always need seperate Hardware for better
and more Possibilities.
LMAO! $8k for a headphone amp!
Wouldn't probably see you out in the street talking shit about Ferrari and Lamborghini cars that cost over 1M$ right?
It wasn't made for you, and the fact that this amp exists won't suddenly make your setup sount like crap.
@@susokraut3169 on the other hand what? doesn't sound better?
i have a prima luna and a topping amp
i prefer one over the other, that's all the objectivist and subjectivist data i need
and before you go over in an attempt of an idiotic rant, please realize that most likely you are a layman compared to actual senior engineers so don't even try with me ( you 30, 40, 60 year-old whatever) kid
@@susokraut3169
define bass and "show" what does it sound like or just attempt metaphysics and tell me by showing me what's it supposed to sound like
........then proceed to define and standardize stuff like "transparency, translucent-ness, opaqueness" and why would we need a "linear" response .
@@susokraut3169 Each and every one of you ASR folks keep saying the same things over and over again like a broken record, truly the definition of crowd psychology.
Your opinion is irrelevant and has no consequence.
@@ydid687 But sir, didn't you know? The internet nowadays empowers the arrogance of the incompetents.
First Beatch 😁😁
New King again?!?🤮