My favorite part of the stream was how much LeButa had to carry every fight due to Rosemi running a nearly mono-baby team. Made him look like a damn hero lol
Something to keep in mind about stat buffs is that we're not only looking at the raw damage increase, but also the decrease in the number of hits it takes to KO the opposing Pokemon. If a +1 in Atk is enough to allow your mon to knock out the opposing mon in 1 hit instead of 2, then the stat buff is definitely worth it. Especially if the +1 allows you to sweep the opponent's whole team. For example, I watched someone using Quaxly with Work Up and Wing Attack to sweep the Bug Gym Leader's whole team in a nuzlocke. Of course, in actual competitive, moves that simply give a +1 in a stat are never used, because most mons usually have access to better boosting moves. But for challenge runs like nuzlockes, they can be helpful in the early game.
Hone Claws also raises Accuracy though. In fact, it's one of only two moves that does (the other being Coil). Though it's worth noting that Sprigatito doesn't really benefit much from the Accuracy boost since most of its moves already have 100% Accuracy. Also, moves that raise stats one stage have seen quite a lot of competitive use. Dragon Dance and Quiver Dance immediately come to mind. There was also Calm Mind Manaphy during gen 5 weather wars, and Porygon-Z in gen 7 with Z-Conversion.
10:33 Okay, but Hone Claws is a good move since the +1 to accuracy as well can make more of a difference than you'd think. In addition to getting extra damage from +1 attack, you're also granted more stability when using moves that are powerful but with lower accuracy (like Cross Chop and Stone Edge). It probably isn't too good for Sprigatito specifically though since all of it's most commonly used moves other than Play Rough have 100 accuracy anyway.
I was actually going to put in a section noting how Hone Claws _does_ have really good synergy with Hustle (notably on Durant), but the text wall was getting too big. Most people in competitive also tend to just deal with the lower accuracy on stuff like Stone Edge or High Jump Kick if it's limited to one move on the mon, using the extra slot to fit in something like a coverage move instead. It sucks, because I like to find any reason to run Hone Claws (a move that boosts accuracy by 33% is just too interesting an idea to ignore), but while +1 Attack is how it is, those reasons are few and far between.
As far as I'm aware, setup moves like DDance, Quiver Dance and Bulk Up also see relatively common use, so generally moves that give 2 quite useful stats like speed or defense. -rip Work Up though. As dead as the viability of mixed attackers-
@@eeihral I'd also like to add that in the PvE side of things, ANY setup move is strong because your opponent isn't going to play switch games on you. As long as you're taking less than 50% of your HP in damage, you can heal back to full and continue setting up (this also counts with the X item line). Then proceed to watch your 4x whatever sweep the entire enemy team. This is a big reason why Gyarados has always been such a strong pokemon in the regular games. 6 Dragon Dances and you sweep everything. To your point though, in VGC (the official supported format for pokemon), you're fighting double battles, so setup is either MORE difficult to pull off (your opponents can easily double up on you and knock out your sweeper at no cost to themselves) or fairly easy (lots of support pokemon that can redirect moves to themselves, Wide Guard/Quick Guard affect partner pokemon, both pokemon can go for setup so you'll either have two damaged but boosted pokemon or one full health boosted pokemon who can proceed to carry). So setup in competitive? Situational. Setup in the regular game? Completely busted.
To help give myself time to set up, I set up a couple screens with glimmora, skeledirge to burn if I feel like I need it, and then switch to the Pokémon that has the boost moves and get to boosting. Also I agree, taroundtula is very cute.
Actually, hone claws is one of the very rare +1 attack boosts that does have some competitive use, because it also boost accuracy. Plenty of moves have absurd power balanced by reduced accuracy, and having a way to remove that downside can absolutely be worth a single turn of setup.
I like the fun facts added. One I’ll add is don’t do what rosemi did and attack before catching in the first area, since everything is always 100% catch rate anyways
The +1 thing kinda depends tbh. Bulk Up and Calm Mind raise 2 stats by 1, so they're quite useful, and Hone Claws is the only move that boosts accuracy, so using it on Pokémon like Durant is incredibly helpful
I didn't know you could catch that first Lechonk, only ever killed it and seen everyone else kill it. Thinking about it now I guess it is the catching tutorial..... but still.
Dragon dance is a special case becase having a speed boost is very important in competitive When you have a strong but frail pokemon being a little bit faster is the diference between losing or winning And the +1 attack is more usefull since usually the speed diference isn't so big as to need +2
I'm only refering to _single stat_ +1s at that part. DD is an amazing move because it nets you Attack _and_ Speed in one turn. A decent amount of other double +1 moves also see use: Bulk Up, Calm Mind, and even Cosmic Power have had their fair share of usage in recent years. And yes, I'm counting Hone Claws as a single stat +1, because people tend to not value accuracy boosts all that much in competitive (at least not to the point of taking up a move slot).
When she fainted that Igglybuff I became afraid too. Glad she caught another one! By the way, Muncha's real name is Skwovet and even if I never got Sword or Shield I believe it's #819. *Reading description* yes but she's a Dragon Quest monster, she's a Gripevine-errr-I-I mean a Thornella... yeah
The final stage is so adorable when happy, doing an "aww, shucks~!" pose with arms behind the back. I already loved the cat, but seeing mine do that pose every time she's happy is just so precious!
Even if agree +1 buffs are kinda useless compared to Sword Dance, Iron Defense, Amnesia and Nasty plot, Hone claws and Calm Mind are still some of the best buffs in every pokèmon game, even if they're +1 on 2 stats. Because Stored Power and Power Trip are the most OP moves ever, if you can safely setup your sweeper, preferably with Baton Pass lol
Actually you are wrong with the boost. Competitive Pokémon it’s not use because well human smart however against Ai it’s much easier. A +1 with terralization gurantees a one hit KO unless it’s a Pokémon that resists the move and has the defenses to match. Basically put yes you waste one turn but tempo leans towards your side heavily during battle against Ai since you gurantee one hit Ko on everything even tanky Pokémon and if they send a counter that is not tanky you kill it. There’s also you know the exploits of doing a set up when they heal lol. As for boost not being used in competitive that’s not entirely true. Dragon dance, Geomancy, power up punch, and swords dance have been used. All these set up moves but Geomancy were used in older formats though where that +1 can gain you tempo or one sword dancing scizzor can wipe an entire team in one hit with bullet punch and those that resisted it it can survive and take it out. If we are talking about Geomancy………..that move is so busted that even to this day Xearnes was still meta because of that move.Basically put if you want to use boost move it’s to have tempo on later turns. Doesn’t mean every Pokémon should have one just use them wisely
Don't get me wrong: DD, Geomancy, and Swords Dance are indeed very strong. Power-Up Punch on Mega Kangaskhan being a free SD while maintaining offensive pressure was also busted. I'm only refering to moves that boost a single stat, and only boost it by +1 not being used in competitive. Things like Sharpen, Defense Curl, Meditate; all those. Other, stronger boosting moves are used pretty much at least once every battle in competitive.
@@eeihral yeah i get what you mean I just wanted to bring to attention that just having a +1 isn’t that bad if you can set up correctly and a little bit of history with boosting moves in competitive Pokémon. In the end of the day however it boils down to team synsergy and strategy. Right now my Team is highly speedy and aggressive so a tank Pokémon can bring trouble so setting up earlier helps in the future in case they have one. However it’s interesting that boosting moves need to be very high value otherwise people won’t use it in competitive. I feel like this is also true in play through though. But if find that opening to get that free +1 oh man it feels good knowing that barely nothing gets in the way. But again it all comes down to team comp and team synergy so do what you believe is best
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My favorite part of the stream was how much LeButa had to carry every fight due to Rosemi running a nearly mono-baby team. Made him look like a damn hero lol
Lol funny like count
5:17 I actually saw a bunch of Hoppip crying on the field…
Then the wind blew them away lmao
Strong winds actually blew a Hoppip onto me while I was just walking around. Didn't know it could happen...
Every reactions from Rosemi-sama is just so precious. I'll never get tired of her cuteness xD
Rosemi: Trying to play the game
Cutest Pokémon in existence: "Allow us to introduce ourselves"
After watching this I feel like I could watch Rosemi catch them ALL
skwovet is a cute squirrel. of course I know it's name.
we don't talk about it's evolution though
What? You mean… Greedent?
Peter Griffin looking ass, I dislike it do much.
I know he's holding the berries in his tail, but my god, they really made it look like he poops them out when he faints lmao
I like Greedent! It's got personality
Rosemi deserves to have more than 6 Pokémon, there’s so many cute Pokémon and she needs them all!
I know what that squirrel pokemon's name is. It is Muncha, like Rosemi said. However that's only it's first name. It's full name is Muncha DEEZ NUTS!
Nice one
And that's why we don't invite Penny over.
Well that and her hitting on our mom.
Nice edits bro. And thank you on the Pokemon trivia as well. And yes. I have subbed to Rosemi a long time ago.
Something to keep in mind about stat buffs is that we're not only looking at the raw damage increase, but also the decrease in the number of hits it takes to KO the opposing Pokemon. If a +1 in Atk is enough to allow your mon to knock out the opposing mon in 1 hit instead of 2, then the stat buff is definitely worth it. Especially if the +1 allows you to sweep the opponent's whole team. For example, I watched someone using Quaxly with Work Up and Wing Attack to sweep the Bug Gym Leader's whole team in a nuzlocke.
Of course, in actual competitive, moves that simply give a +1 in a stat are never used, because most mons usually have access to better boosting moves. But for challenge runs like nuzlockes, they can be helpful in the early game.
Hone Claws also raises Accuracy though. In fact, it's one of only two moves that does (the other being Coil). Though it's worth noting that Sprigatito doesn't really benefit much from the Accuracy boost since most of its moves already have 100% Accuracy.
Also, moves that raise stats one stage have seen quite a lot of competitive use. Dragon Dance and Quiver Dance immediately come to mind. There was also Calm Mind Manaphy during gen 5 weather wars, and Porygon-Z in gen 7 with Z-Conversion.
0:47 skwovet something like that i don't know how to write it though
Ngl watching Rosemi playing Pokemon was so wholesome!
I just have sincerely a squad of Cetoddles. They are the best and cutest pokemon ever. Change my mind.
Glad to see she had the same internal struggle of wanting to use them all as I did.
10:33 Okay, but Hone Claws is a good move since the +1 to accuracy as well can make more of a difference than you'd think. In addition to getting extra damage from +1 attack, you're also granted more stability when using moves that are powerful but with lower accuracy (like Cross Chop and Stone Edge). It probably isn't too good for Sprigatito specifically though since all of it's most commonly used moves other than Play Rough have 100 accuracy anyway.
I was actually going to put in a section noting how Hone Claws _does_ have really good synergy with Hustle (notably on Durant), but the text wall was getting too big.
Most people in competitive also tend to just deal with the lower accuracy on stuff like Stone Edge or High Jump Kick if it's limited to one move on the mon, using the extra slot to fit in something like a coverage move instead. It sucks, because I like to find any reason to run Hone Claws (a move that boosts accuracy by 33% is just too interesting an idea to ignore), but while +1 Attack is how it is, those reasons are few and far between.
As far as I'm aware, setup moves like DDance, Quiver Dance and Bulk Up also see relatively common use, so generally moves that give 2 quite useful stats like speed or defense. -rip Work Up though. As dead as the viability of mixed attackers-
@@eeihral I'd also like to add that in the PvE side of things, ANY setup move is strong because your opponent isn't going to play switch games on you. As long as you're taking less than 50% of your HP in damage, you can heal back to full and continue setting up (this also counts with the X item line). Then proceed to watch your 4x whatever sweep the entire enemy team. This is a big reason why Gyarados has always been such a strong pokemon in the regular games. 6 Dragon Dances and you sweep everything.
To your point though, in VGC (the official supported format for pokemon), you're fighting double battles, so setup is either MORE difficult to pull off (your opponents can easily double up on you and knock out your sweeper at no cost to themselves) or fairly easy (lots of support pokemon that can redirect moves to themselves, Wide Guard/Quick Guard affect partner pokemon, both pokemon can go for setup so you'll either have two damaged but boosted pokemon or one full health boosted pokemon who can proceed to carry).
So setup in competitive? Situational. Setup in the regular game? Completely busted.
To help give myself time to set up, I set up a couple screens with glimmora, skeledirge to burn if I feel like I need it, and then switch to the Pokémon that has the boost moves and get to boosting.
Also I agree, taroundtula is very cute.
Actually, hone claws is one of the very rare +1 attack boosts that does have some competitive use, because it also boost accuracy. Plenty of moves have absurd power balanced by reduced accuracy, and having a way to remove that downside can absolutely be worth a single turn of setup.
5:04 I may have just realised something. Stop the video at that timestamp and see what the UA-cam Pause sign shows.
"First of the fellow plants: Hoppip"?
I like the fun facts added. One I’ll add is don’t do what rosemi did and attack before catching in the first area, since everything is always 100% catch rate anyways
As someone who accidentally killed the first Lechonk, then got them as the last dex entry, you don't have to catch it c:
00:47 it's a Skwovet.
i must be part of the 10% that knows that is a skwovet.
The +1 thing kinda depends tbh. Bulk Up and Calm Mind raise 2 stats by 1, so they're quite useful, and Hone Claws is the only move that boosts accuracy, so using it on Pokémon like Durant is incredibly helpful
Coil
@@bakabakashi3289 right, forgot about coil. Still, that's exclusive to snakelike pokemon
0:45 Bet, Skcovet
Edit: Spelt it wrong but eh "Skwovet"
0:47 the Pokémon is skwovet
Let her believe
No it's Peter Griffin
Bru guess I am part of the 10% because that is no muncha XD
Im just here to say, that I have a grievance with any and all Greedants. Bro everytime that demon showed up I got washed away.
Aww but it's cute!
Do you think this is only the case because you can see the pokemon walking around? As opposed to rng in tall grass, which feels more like a nuisance.
Its probably partly that, but SV does have a massive pool of mons right off the bat compared to other games too.
@@Purin1023 valid
Honestly I've been 100% more invested in trying to complete the pokedex in each new gens since the disappearance of random encounters.
Skowvet I think that what its called
Skwovet
I didn't know you could catch that first Lechonk, only ever killed it and seen everyone else kill it. Thinking about it now I guess it is the catching tutorial..... but still.
Actually, the opposite happened with me, in that I didn't know you can knock it out and everyone I saw caught it.
Gotta catch some of them!
So does that part about the +1s apply to like
Dragon Dance
Or is that basically a +2 because of the speed increase?
Dragon dance is a special case becase having a speed boost is very important in competitive
When you have a strong but frail pokemon being a little bit faster is the diference between losing or winning
And the +1 attack is more usefull since usually the speed diference isn't so big as to need +2
@@kubomagico8853 ok, so I DONT need to double up on dragon dance EVERY TIME I decide I want my Pokémon to have it
Got it 👍
@@glimn4839 If you want the +2 attack or your enemy also have a speed boost use it twice
I'm only refering to _single stat_ +1s at that part. DD is an amazing move because it nets you Attack _and_ Speed in one turn.
A decent amount of other double +1 moves also see use: Bulk Up, Calm Mind, and even Cosmic Power have had their fair share of usage in recent years.
And yes, I'm counting Hone Claws as a single stat +1, because people tend to not value accuracy boosts all that much in competitive (at least not to the point of taking up a move slot).
if i think which Pokemon would Rosemi fit the most in this game, it would be Florges with a plant tera-typ
When she fainted that Igglybuff I became afraid too. Glad she caught another one! By the way, Muncha's real name is Skwovet and even if I never got Sword or Shield I believe it's #819.
*Reading description* yes but she's a Dragon Quest monster, she's a Gripevine-errr-I-I mean a Thornella... yeah
Suddenly Early Crit Capture
skwovet
Of course I know it's name. It's skwovet.
Eh, Hone Claws is still fairly decent; accuracy and attack up together after all.
fletchling my favorite beerds
nooo rosemi sama put them in the silly box
I know Gen 1 & 2 anything past that is...
Has rosemi sama saw nyaoha's evolution?
The final stage is so adorable when happy, doing an "aww, shucks~!" pose with arms behind the back. I already loved the cat, but seeing mine do that pose every time she's happy is just so precious!
Even if agree +1 buffs are kinda useless compared to Sword Dance, Iron Defense, Amnesia and Nasty plot, Hone claws and Calm Mind are still some of the best buffs in every pokèmon game, even if they're +1 on 2 stats.
Because Stored Power and Power Trip are the most OP moves ever, if you can safely setup your sweeper, preferably with Baton Pass lol
You are the cutie vtuber and have cute voice
Squovet
Actually you are wrong with the boost. Competitive Pokémon it’s not use because well human smart however against Ai it’s much easier. A +1 with terralization gurantees a one hit KO unless it’s a Pokémon that resists the move and has the defenses to match. Basically put yes you waste one turn but tempo leans towards your side heavily during battle against Ai since you gurantee one hit Ko on everything even tanky Pokémon and if they send a counter that is not tanky you kill it. There’s also you know the exploits of doing a set up when they heal lol. As for boost not being used in competitive that’s not entirely true. Dragon dance, Geomancy, power up punch, and swords dance have been used. All these set up moves but Geomancy were used in older formats though where that +1 can gain you tempo or one sword dancing scizzor can wipe an entire team in one hit with bullet punch and those that resisted it it can survive and take it out. If we are talking about Geomancy………..that move is so busted that even to this day Xearnes was still meta because of that move.Basically put if you want to use boost move it’s to have tempo on later turns. Doesn’t mean every Pokémon should have one just use them wisely
Don't get me wrong: DD, Geomancy, and Swords Dance are indeed very strong. Power-Up Punch on Mega Kangaskhan being a free SD while maintaining offensive pressure was also busted.
I'm only refering to moves that boost a single stat, and only boost it by +1 not being used in competitive. Things like Sharpen, Defense Curl, Meditate; all those. Other, stronger boosting moves are used pretty much at least once every battle in competitive.
@@eeihral yeah i get what you mean I just wanted to bring to attention that just having a +1 isn’t that bad if you can set up correctly and a little bit of history with boosting moves in competitive Pokémon. In the end of the day however it boils down to team synsergy and strategy. Right now my Team is highly speedy and aggressive so a tank Pokémon can bring trouble so setting up earlier helps in the future in case they have one. However it’s interesting that boosting moves need to be very high value otherwise people won’t use it in competitive. I feel like this is also true in play through though. But if find that opening to get that free +1 oh man it feels good knowing that barely nothing gets in the way. But again it all comes down to team comp and team synergy so do what you believe is best
Skwovet