Universe Sandbox 2/Space Engine - Sirius and The Dogon

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  • @dr.tonident-mcnair5081
    @dr.tonident-mcnair5081 4 роки тому +128

    How arrogant to say that only colonists had to teach them what they already knew to be true. The Dogon were actually here long before Kemet and the Egyptians and were never colonized to change beliefs. Give them their credit. We should learn from them and not automatically call them liars as, " the privileged" usually do.

    • @lstarrtna4288
      @lstarrtna4288 3 роки тому +5

      Because they're B. L. A. C. K

    • @luciusvorenus1228
      @luciusvorenus1228 3 роки тому +1

      Stfu
      Your racist pos

    • @kennybrown7695
      @kennybrown7695 3 роки тому +4

      The coldest part is that a false narrative is being presented as truth! The Ancients did not rever any southern stars! Why would they orientate their temples & monuments towards true north? Did you know that the Egyptians boldly stated that we live on a stationary plain that is flat! If the Dogon science neglect this basic fact then how can one assume that they have not been influenced by westerners?

    • @uptownscenery9175
      @uptownscenery9175 3 роки тому +16

      When do white people give people of color credit for any discovery. Never, they haven't discovered anything if you do research they take it from the true discoverers and take credit. They ransacked Timbuktu and every other place that held knowledge of the universe took what they wanted and destroyed it after then put a European face as the one who discovered it when pretty much all the ancient African civilizations had the same knowledge before a white person even came out of the caucus mountains

    • @uptownscenery9175
      @uptownscenery9175 3 роки тому

      @@kennybrown7695 because it is a plain and maps even show you the plain but they brainwashed everyone to think it's a ball. I think it has force field around the plain as nasa even shows you around the globe model or as the ancient ones said a dome. I just can't believe we're on a spinning ball flying threw space at unthinkable speeds because the people that constantly lie to us said so

  • @haroldbottom3474
    @haroldbottom3474 5 років тому +298

    If Dogon were European, their findings wouldn't be questioned... History is just that; "His Story"...

    • @phantomwalker8251
      @phantomwalker8251 5 років тому +11

      eeeeeyyyyeeeeee,,eee,,was going to say,,the dogon knew of this while we were hiding in caves.look up,hu man..IF,,we all knew the truth,star trek would be real..we have alien dna,,promethius is about the most real,historical film,there is..harold,im harry..long version of harold ,,apparently,??,i dont get it...the big bang is b/s..the universe has been here forever,,we hu mans,,just cant comprehend,forever..the sumerian tablets,should be tought at school..NOT WHEN YUR 65...aaaaaaaaaggggghhh...fkit

    • @highervibrations3863
      @highervibrations3863 4 роки тому +2

      Exactly

    • @not2tees
      @not2tees 4 роки тому +10

      Science doesn't have findings that aren't questioned - the whole routine of science is to question and question more and more. The funding of science is rather deterministic, to be sure. In Europe or elsewhere.

    • @change8606
      @change8606 4 роки тому +3

      1. If there would be reptilian people, they wouldn't b from sirius 2. not all whites are the same, if you want to go by race, I would even say there are only two on this planet: the light eyed and the dark eyed, those, who absorb blue light and those who reflect, the music blues makes sense now? Also darkening of the sun through Aerosol? All the other is indoctrination and upbringing, also some of the light-eyed correct that through having children with dark eyed. Make the brown eye great again!

    • @AF-ti7nb
      @AF-ti7nb 4 роки тому

      @QwenTheDaughterOfBabylon stfu

  • @61zulu61
    @61zulu61 5 років тому +146

    DOGON knew long before nasa

    • @phantomwalker8251
      @phantomwalker8251 4 роки тому +1

      nasa are run by the military,budget is trillions.they know more ,same as the smithsonian,full of good intent b/s...

    • @HeathHunter
      @HeathHunter 4 роки тому

      @Professor Fez I started to read about Dogons 30 years ago and haven't read or heard this.

    • @NS-dj3dc
      @NS-dj3dc 4 роки тому +5

      HeathHunter anything blacks knew whites always down play it. Or never believed them until they find out they were telling the truth and then whites say they discovered it. Every 50 yrs Dogon tribe have a festival. Look it up. Plus Aliens use to take ppl back to their planet and teach them. This is where u get the so called Jesus missing time line from 12 to 32. Also the Noah ark is bs Dogon tribe talks abt space ship with animals on it coming to earth

    • @mikeb3315
      @mikeb3315 3 роки тому

      Dogon=nogod.

    • @61zulu61
      @61zulu61 3 роки тому

      @@mikeb3315 they did claim to be=udid

  • @calebsheppard2800
    @calebsheppard2800 4 роки тому +253

    The dogon tribe knew the knowledge before Europeans arrived

    • @davemwangi05
      @davemwangi05 4 роки тому +38

      @BANCHESTER YANITED COMEDY CLUB CENTRAL they have it depicted in 400 year old artifacts. that was way before the Jesuits arrived to fuk 'em up.

    • @Fireslanga1
      @Fireslanga1 4 роки тому +13

      @BANCHESTER YANITED COMEDY CLUB CENTRAL why are u even here??? Just to doubt and not offer any of your knowledge??? U on many comments lol. Sad soul.

    • @sedwillful
      @sedwillful 3 роки тому +19

      @BANCHESTER YANITED COMEDY CLUB CENTRAL There's anthropological evidence; historical art in Mali. Also, within Africa; Nubian desert, the worlds oldest astrological site sits; older than Stonehenge. Linguistically and culturally, their lifestyles mirror ancient Egypt. They even claim descent from Kemet/Egypt. The dogon have practices that predate modern anthropology.

    • @sedwillful
      @sedwillful 3 роки тому +2

      @BANCHESTER YANITED COMEDY CLUB CENTRAL Look it up

    • @troopertto
      @troopertto 3 роки тому +2

      @Franny YNWA you can not prove the existence of Alexander the great, so does that he is an imaginative character

  • @418thecoming4
    @418thecoming4 5 років тому +103

    Sirius rise on July 22 which floods the banks of the Nile, facts. No colonizers told the Dogon

    • @RedxDJCashpal
      @RedxDJCashpal 3 роки тому +1

      a month after summer solstice

    • @besmirkocia1207
      @besmirkocia1207 3 роки тому +11

      I found something astonishing in The Noble Quran.
      the word Sirius the most brightest star at northen hemisphere is mentioned in Quran only once at surah an- Najm (the star) at ayat (53:49).
      The surah have 360 words .
      the word sirius is the 310 word from the beginning of the surah.
      if we divided 310/360 we have this result 0.86111111.
      In modern astronomy textbooks the distance in light - years of Sirius
      is
      8.611 light -years ??!!!!

    • @crazyfaith77
      @crazyfaith77 3 роки тому +1

      It rise on August 8th here in the west and US

    • @omarammanuel6950
      @omarammanuel6950 2 роки тому +1

      @@besmirkocia1207 Salam alaikum brother great work...heading to the sura now.

  • @jonasandersson2371
    @jonasandersson2371 3 роки тому +28

    Sirius(ley), celebrating Sirius every 60th year instead of 50th year is close enough for me to consider that there is something more to this story. I would hardly know when its passed a month without calenders and clocks.

    • @sirtko
      @sirtko 2 роки тому +3

      I know right 🙏💚💚💚✊

    • @show_me_your_kitties
      @show_me_your_kitties 2 роки тому

      Can you explain that to me like I'm a 5 year old?

    • @johnb6723
      @johnb6723 Рік тому

      60 earth years is ten orbits of the planet in orbit around Sirius, because the planetary orbit is 6 earth years.

    • @JennySimon206
      @JennySimon206 Рік тому

      A group of scientists think Sirius is our binary. Sirius research institute. The ancients were trying to tell us something about Sirius.

    • @aishalotter9995
      @aishalotter9995 7 місяців тому

      Wot about the moon ? It’s full once a month !!!

  • @TonyG718
    @TonyG718 4 роки тому +78

    Africa to the world: Your Welcome.

    • @TonyG718
      @TonyG718 4 роки тому +5

      Go read and discover for yourself.

    • @YOUNGitheGOD
      @YOUNGitheGOD 3 роки тому +1

      @SHADOW COMPANY everything!

    • @husrebel494
      @husrebel494 3 роки тому +1

      Ultimately it was the Sumerian civilisation these fish being visited that helped advance civilisations. But the world should be great full for the African land as we all came from there ! 💪🏽 peace

  • @Anniciam
    @Anniciam 3 роки тому +9

    It’s disrespectful to assume that knowledge could only come from the West 😤

    • @maud3444
      @maud3444 2 роки тому +2

      He isn't assuming this. Nobody is. The muslims and Chinese to name only two have made massive contributions to science in the past.

  • @Memphizm
    @Memphizm 4 роки тому +32

    Don't speculate STUPIDITY without verifying FOR SURE concerning the Dogon people and why they left Egypt.

    • @djinnjax3274
      @djinnjax3274 3 роки тому

      @Keith Watkins No it's the fault of the desert.

    • @a.m.armstrong8354
      @a.m.armstrong8354 2 роки тому

      @@djinnjax3274 When the Dogon left Egypt there was no desert.

    • @djinnjax3274
      @djinnjax3274 2 роки тому +1

      @@a.m.armstrong8354 Yes there was it was just smaller. Over grazing and desertification lead to the Mende and Songhai leaving as well.

    • @afroanimations8819
      @afroanimations8819 2 роки тому

      They probably left Egypt for a variety of reasons:
      1) Escaped slavery that resulted from the unification of Egypt.
      2) Escaped slavery after the Persian invasion of Egypt by Cambyses
      3) Constant Nubian raids for slaves into lower upper and lower Egypt
      4) Desertification and constant drought

    • @Grimloxz
      @Grimloxz Рік тому

      What is with this Western obsession of always assuming black faces in the ancient world are slaves?

  • @maridadi8
    @maridadi8 4 роки тому +26

    You taught them about nothing. They knew it before the Europeans went therw. Who do you think build the pyramids of Egypt ?

  • @abhishekghosh7518
    @abhishekghosh7518 3 роки тому +30

    This reminds me of a dream I had several years ago, when I was a child, roughly seven years old. In that dream, I saw that I was climbing up on a beautiful, ornately decorated stairs and a very beautiful angelic kind of music was being heard. It was the same music which can be heard coming from the white light at the centre of our head, in meditation, which chakra it is exactly I am not sure. As I climbed up those stairs, I felt my body grow in size and become luminous. At the other end, I reached some sort of planet or Star, and though I was very close to it, but strangely enough, I couldn't feel any heat in it. It was totally white with a bluish tinge. Eventually, I entered The Star, and realized that I am that Star. There where various beings living inside that star, who had bodies of light. It's very strange, I don't know how to explain it, but I was that planet or star or whatever it was, and those beings were living 'inside' me. Eventually, I again came out of it, and started hovering over it as a huge formless awareness. A question arose in my mind, as to which star is this, and immediately an answer came, some voice inside me answered, "Sirius". That time I hadn't heard the name of this star, and did not know such a star existed. I also saw the Sirius B, together with Sirius A. When I woke up, I felt deep peace, and a strange, indescribably pleasant and expansive feeling, kind of finally returning back home. I don't know how to explain it, but it was totally wonderful, which is why I still remember it in detail after so many years. It wasn't like ordinary dreams, but very lifelike and conscious. Today your video reminded me of the same experience after so many years.

    • @Thr3egod
      @Thr3egod 3 роки тому +8

      The universe we have been taught to know is not the same as the universe that actually is. Dreams are quite strange phenomena because they are not confined to time so you can never really tell if the dream is in the past, present or future but in my experience the "real" universe is out there not down here

    • @abhishekghosh7518
      @abhishekghosh7518 3 роки тому +4

      So true brother. We are intricately connected to the universe.

    • @shedsumlight268
      @shedsumlight268 3 роки тому +10

      Interesting to read about your dream, as I have read something similar in the books of Enoch which has brought me to the conclusions that we are not just made of star stuff, we are the stars. For there is a continues heavenly cycle of elements transforming or transmuting from one element and form into the next. Stars have been referred to as angels. Angels are the sons of God. They became stars. Stars become suns, suns becomes planets, which starts of as gas into a liquid into a solid. Earth is at its solid state which will return to liquid and from liquid to gas. One state of matter into the next. Suns fuse hydrogen into helium and helium into carbon. Once a carbon planet has enough mass and oxygen it can fuse the lighter metals into heavier metals such as found on the periodic table, hydrogen and oxygen molecule combine to fuse into H2O. thus creates liquid to sustain life. As the scripture states man was created from the dust of the earth, this is not simply just clay this is refering to carbon element which the earth is. Like the stars that undergoes transformation into sun, planet, and from planet into carbon life forms. The human CARBON BODY to undergoes a transformation from material solid body and state Back into carbon dust from which it came. Some spirits become angels that are connected with ADOIL the blue Star mentioned in the 2nd book of Enoch, some become a possible galaxy of it's own, and the unrighteous souls become asteroids that are lumps of coal, floating around in space just as the demons from the testament of Solomon are.

    • @shedsumlight268
      @shedsumlight268 3 роки тому +2

      Oh and to top this all off. Carbon has 3 states of matter, coal, lead and in it's indestructible solid form, DIAMOND, mankind started off as coal dust, some return to just that, coal dust but the righteous are transformed into a rare and therefore precious jewel to your creator just as mentioned in the new city of Jerusalem, some stars can also transform into diamonds known as white dwarfs and so too does the human body, read the hopi prophecy of the red and blue kachinas, As above so below.

    • @abhishekghosh7518
      @abhishekghosh7518 3 роки тому +8

      @@shedsumlight268 interestingly, I found this concept of "Yuen Tsun" or "Yuen Sun" in Taoism. According to it, in an alternate dimension, our higher selves exist as a world, (a planet or a star) of its own, on which many beings live. It's similar to how Sri Yukteswar described the causal world to Paramhansa Yogananda after his resurrection. When I visited Sirius, I received several insights in a direct manner, which I found difficult to put into words back then. The humanity is receiving a lot of light energy and guidance from Sirius, and a day will come when humanity will also evolve to that level. Also, the Pyramids are actually aligned to the Sirius, and not just the pole star as many people believe. Eventually humans will be a species of Siddhas, they will be Homo Deus quite literally. It's all going to happen in this very century. Another thing about Sirius is that they are highly developed in music, and unlike many other enlightened alien species, they have developed emotions to a very high degree. Their's is a more heart based, embodied kind of enlightenment. Many of the current artists, musicians, singers etc who are creating spiritually charged works are actually Sirians as well.

  • @littlestonliest1186
    @littlestonliest1186 4 роки тому +55

    Part of what makes the Dogon so believable is that they actually have records of Sirius B prior to its discovery on Earth. Our records show it was not seen until 1862 and the Dogons have artifacts showing Sirius A, B, and C over 400 years ago. What is this guy talking about that the Dogons could have received this information from missionaries.

    • @maqxdaone88
      @maqxdaone88 3 роки тому +20

      he can’t believe that it came from Africa

    • @shaunspencer8494
      @shaunspencer8494 2 роки тому +9

      Racist fools that can't except truth

    • @scamlikely6671
      @scamlikely6671 2 роки тому +2

      Also.. the knowledge was passed down for generations.. the original information may been lost over time

    • @a.m.armstrong8354
      @a.m.armstrong8354 2 роки тому +1

      We are MAN, not Hu-Man. Our nature is beyond Hu-Man reality, which is whare we leave Anton Petrov..

    • @rossqm369
      @rossqm369 2 роки тому

      from aliens 👽 not missionaries 😆😆😆😆😆

  • @TruthHurts907
    @TruthHurts907 Рік тому +7

    Voltaire wrote a 'fictional' novel called Micromegas about aliens from Sirius visiting Earth and sharing their knowledge with us. I think he knew something.

  • @yojimbokuratsu
    @yojimbokuratsu 4 роки тому +14

    Before the current calendar, they were only ten months. Two less months would have made a year a little bit shorter. I haven't done the math, but maybe that would add up to 60 years. Even so, we don't know what a year was to them.

    • @katjess0611
      @katjess0611 4 роки тому +7

      That's absolutely right. 12 months × 60 Yrs = 720 months. So 10 months / 12 months = (83.33-100) = 16.66%. So 720 months - 16.66% = 600.048/10 = 60 years. So they are correct. And I'm no mathematician 😊

    • @rogershapland5042
      @rogershapland5042 2 роки тому

      Sounds reasonable. In one of the Dogon documentaries, an old guy had to keep an eye on the path of the sun across the sky to work out when the rainy season would start. you don't need that so much with today's calendar. Just a thought.

  • @White80set
    @White80set 3 роки тому +12

    Now i know where the Sirius Radio logo came from, the eye is even a star.

    • @Psyfi85
      @Psyfi85 11 місяців тому

      Tons of references to it in world culture. It’s on the way back to Sol on its 26,000 yr orbit, yes orbit. So theoretically we are in a binary system.

  • @boogeyman2868
    @boogeyman2868 5 років тому +27

    ofcourse its true o.O they know more about our system, then we find out what they said is true. should be enough of an argument

  • @dubbwire3198
    @dubbwire3198 4 роки тому +5

    Dude I would looove to brief you a lot better on the topic or you can check out the source they refer to. Fogon are decendants of Egyptian Preist. Ra is the Alien who used Solar Sail tec having traveled here EONS ago. The Solar Boat Of Ra! Details of the 1st Human to encounter him is the Origin of Isis. Then we get a time table for his travels and there is the precision manufacturing of Egypt itself. Surfaces at 100th an inch. Diamond tool cuts etc. Think about it homie (and yes the Planet could have been ejected by now thus the end of the near by interstellar relationship.

  • @DanielDornekDorda
    @DanielDornekDorda 8 років тому +28

    A Question, why don't we use Hubble telescope to look into Sirius system?

    • @scotthough7186
      @scotthough7186 8 років тому +3

      +Daniel Dorda because Hubble isn't designed to find planets

    • @DanielDornekDorda
      @DanielDornekDorda 8 років тому +1

      Scott Hough Oi.

    • @scotthough7186
      @scotthough7186 8 років тому +3

      exactly Hubble can't see the planets around sirius

    • @theskeds7256
      @theskeds7256 8 років тому +7

      +Scott Hough It's not that, but a brown dwarf like "Sirius C" is very hard to spot, with or without telescopes. The Hubble Telescope has found exoplanets, but mostly through seeing them pass in front of their stars and block a tiny but detectable amount of light. That's why the smallest exoplanets we can find currently must be at least about twice the diameter of Earth.

    • @dustinosborn4068
      @dustinosborn4068 8 років тому

      Because it would burn our eyes it's like starring at the sun it BURNS!

  • @mrcreative6020
    @mrcreative6020 3 роки тому +13

    They weren’t fish people, they were wearing what they call a fish suit because they landed in the water and swam ashore wearing the fish suit, which is the name given to the same apparel by the annanuki, When the first guy Alalu landed on earth Around 430,000 years ago.

  • @thelorde7530
    @thelorde7530 4 роки тому +51

    *IF THE DOGAN PEOPLE WERE EUROPEAN/ANGLO/WHITE WESTERN SOCIETY WOULD PRAISE THEM LIKE THEY PRAISE THE ROMANS*

    • @sammiesmith6690
      @sammiesmith6690 4 роки тому +5

      Exactly

    • @Jake-ee5lr
      @Jake-ee5lr 4 роки тому +5

      our sad reality :( stay strong brotha, once human history truly unfolds, people will begin to appreciate the profound contributions and achievements of ancient non-white cultures.

    • @TeddIdle34
      @TeddIdle34 4 роки тому +3

      @BANCHESTER YANITED COMEDY CLUB CENTRAL stop being murdering bastards

    • @johnraina4828
      @johnraina4828 4 роки тому +2

      @@TeddIdle34 playing the blame game junior?

    • @johnraina4828
      @johnraina4828 4 роки тому +2

      Crybaby

  • @moisrama1
    @moisrama1 4 роки тому +40

    My opinion is that the Dogons are telling the truth, they come from the land of the impossible pyramids, so their seemingly impossible history and legend fits the mold

    • @SubtoPheedy
      @SubtoPheedy 2 роки тому +1

      This stuff seems very likely, because “space” Doesn’t seem to make much sense . So maybe Sirius was very close to the Dogon tribe. So much they could see it with there naked eye.

  • @stockholm1752
    @stockholm1752 4 роки тому +9

    @13:05 “They’re [Dogons] not even really sure which star is Sirius in the sky.”
    @3:48 Universe Sandbox has “no simulation for Sirius”.
    What percentage of people in the world have ever heard of Sirius, let alone would be able to point it out for you?

    • @johan5573
      @johan5573 4 роки тому +3

      hundstjärnan, den starkaste stjärnan du kan se det lär du dig för fan i grundskolan.

    • @scraggybear
      @scraggybear 3 роки тому +5

      all of them. Sirius is the biggest star in the night sky. Known by all ancient cultures.

    • @maud3444
      @maud3444 2 роки тому +2

      Well actually everyone who knows the basics of astrology. It's the brightest star in the sky. Only Venus (a planet) and Betelgeuze are easier to spot. So what are you trying to say here?

    • @stockholm1752
      @stockholm1752 2 роки тому

      @@maud3444 “everyone who knows the basics of *astrology.*” 👀?

    • @maud3444
      @maud3444 2 роки тому

      @@stockholm1752 Astronomy* Sorry! Not a native English speaker ^^

  • @tonlon-en3se
    @tonlon-en3se 3 роки тому +15

    Missionaries transferred "knowledge"😆😆😆. Which knowledge, the knowledge that sun goes around the earth!!🤣🤣🤣

    • @husrebel494
      @husrebel494 3 роки тому +2

      I can guarantee you growing up in a Christian background, they know nothing about space.

    • @maud3444
      @maud3444 2 роки тому

      Missionaries knew since the 17th/18th century that Earth goes around the sun so what exactly are you trying to say here?

    • @rachelanne5060
      @rachelanne5060 2 роки тому

      Eric Dubay

  • @truthseeker6116
    @truthseeker6116 6 місяців тому +1

    Anton i doubt you have even read the book. The original Anthropologists that interacted with the Dogon copied down everything exactly how it was told. They knew nothing about astronomy and could not have influenced the Dogon in any way. They knew that Sirius B was very heavy but small at the same time. The 60 year orbit is near enough, information is sometimes changed over hundreds of years but Temple thinks it may have been deliberately altered to hide the real orbit from non initiates but to suggest the information was given to them from the West is completely incorrect and arrogant. I believe Temple read the original Anthropologists notes and they confirm the Dogon had this knowledge traceable up to 1000 years ago

  • @nightruler666
    @nightruler666 6 років тому +13

    Hold on so your saying that the Zora in legend of zelda are originally from the star systen sirius?!

    • @julsius
      @julsius 4 роки тому +2

      look at Dodonga (dinosaur/triceratops) and Gorons (inspired by Dogon tribe).

    • @julsius
      @julsius 4 роки тому +4

      apart from Dodonga Cavern. Dodonga are also found in water temple and Goron mines. the ancient Zora people gave Goron race some knowledge about Sirius.

    • @obovworldwide385
      @obovworldwide385 4 роки тому +2

      Holy shit!!!

  • @bofloa
    @bofloa 3 роки тому +2

    Why asking if Dogon are correct if its your people thought them..

  • @erichoustonart
    @erichoustonart 3 роки тому +5

    “Probably escaping slavery or something” ladies and gentlemen he’s inept.

  • @j.charliemedina9189
    @j.charliemedina9189 4 роки тому +6

    What I am trying to figure out, is in which direction is Sirius going? Our Solar System is heading in the direction away from Sirius. I have studied that our Sun has been traveling away from Sirius, and our Solar System is in the same trajectory with the direction away from Sirius, toward Vega. Thousands of years ago as the Egyptians were closer to Sirius, they saw and built the pyramids as they were instructed by the system of Orion (orions belt). Sirius, the Dog star, the Egyptians had drawn their leader with a dog head. So as we are leaving the Sirius system, we are now heading closer to Alpha Centauri, but in the trajectory toward Vega. Sirius brought visitors to Earth years ago, but we are going in a direction away from them toward Vega.

  • @mrcreative6020
    @mrcreative6020 3 роки тому +2

    We didn’t tell them because the knowledge was with them before the first Europeans arrived

  • @icehockeylover189
    @icehockeylover189 3 роки тому +24

    The Dogons are correct and their narrative is a common one, in ancient tribes and civilizations.

  • @davidbrandenburg8029
    @davidbrandenburg8029 2 роки тому +2

    its a trinary star system according to the Dogon

  • @thepathfinder5414
    @thepathfinder5414 2 роки тому +2

    If the "aliens" calender or length of what they call a year is exactly the same us we here now understand is exactly the same, then dogons could be celebrating in the wrong year according to modern calculations of Sirius orbital movement. But I doubt we share calenders or calculation methods....

  • @makanaki513
    @makanaki513 3 роки тому +6

    Discrediting the Dogon scientific knowledge and culture as beliefs and twisting it up with complete columbus ideologies is one hell of a white-copyrighting strategy

  • @mcbikeman5673
    @mcbikeman5673 2 роки тому +1

    why not point the JWT at the sirius system and see what occurs?

  • @stockholm1752
    @stockholm1752 4 роки тому +2

    Given that whatever knowledge the Dogon people possess was passed down by oral tradition, the inconsistencies you mention may have crept into their story like Chinese whispers. That doesn’t make the fact that they know anything about it at all ASTONISHING. Seems like much more than coincidence. Why would they even begin, or bother to fashion such a mythology?
    Hello to Dr. Carl Sagan, where ever you are.

  • @DAVIDPETERS12C
    @DAVIDPETERS12C 4 роки тому +3

    The big issue is water creatures creating space craft. Here on Earth, our ancestors evolved hands, brains and binocular eyes that could someday create space craft and wonder about the universe, all while clambering about in trees, then running down prey and throwing rocks at predators as a tribe.

    • @maud3444
      @maud3444 2 роки тому +2

      This is one of the smartest comments I've read in this entire comment section. Bravo :-)

    • @bacwoodsgospel6879
      @bacwoodsgospel6879 2 роки тому

      Space is water sir . As above so below

  • @t.augustusromer5503
    @t.augustusromer5503 3 роки тому +2

    Europeans always want to take credit and I used to love Carl Sagan but then I grew up.

  • @arnoldstrong5553
    @arnoldstrong5553 5 місяців тому

    Funny how one recent video from Anton about a soon to be expected Nova in Corona Borealis, brought me to this video while searching if Sirius could become a similar Nova.
    Keep it up Anton. 👍

  • @Eli23Ballin
    @Eli23Ballin 4 роки тому +4

    The Dogons were before Egypt

  • @emme_30122
    @emme_30122 4 роки тому +28

    You are incorrect about your people teaching the Dogons, stop spreading lies.

    • @CelticAugur
      @CelticAugur 3 роки тому

      Stoopid

    • @maud3444
      @maud3444 2 роки тому

      Please, enlighten us with your scientific evidence

  • @lordzodiak1575
    @lordzodiak1575 3 роки тому +1

    The dogon say they came from Sirius not just visited. That means visited by thier ancestors not aliens.

    • @maud3444
      @maud3444 2 роки тому

      According to their DNA they are 100% human and humans are 100% sure to be developed here on Earth. You can trace this back hundreds of millions of years ago. Please don't make silly claims like this

    • @lordzodiak1575
      @lordzodiak1575 2 роки тому

      @@maud3444 please read , I'm referring to what they say not science

    • @maud3444
      @maud3444 2 роки тому +1

      @@lordzodiak1575 I apologize

  • @Koplerio
    @Koplerio 8 років тому +5

    The 60 instead of 50 Years could be because of a Time-dialation on the Planet itself because of its Gravity, what would also mean, that the Planet has to be pretty heavy. Else i don't know how it can be 60 instead of 50 Years. Maybe the stars have a inclination which can't be noticed yet, what makes the Stars fly around 60 Years...

    • @Koplerio
      @Koplerio 8 років тому +1

      I think that we should look for the 3rd Star and the Planet or maybe even Planets of Sirius. The projects which those space agencies have should be able to detect those 3rd Stars (Theoretically). If not, well... wait like 2-3 Years and then they will announce something. I'm pretty positive that there's a planet with possible life around Sirius. (Unreligious)

    • @Thr3egod
      @Thr3egod 3 роки тому

      Pretty solid. I should have thought of this.

  • @SuperBjanka
    @SuperBjanka 4 роки тому +5

    This is maybe a crazy idea, but what if there have been a name mix up, and the real Sirius of the Dogons was Stella Polaris?

    • @maqxdaone88
      @maqxdaone88 3 роки тому +1

      that is in ursa minor

    • @kennybrown7695
      @kennybrown7695 3 роки тому +1

      You are absolutely correct! If the Dogon are recipients of Egyptian wisdom, then why would the Dogon rever a southern star & not a northern when considering that Egyptian temples & monuments are orientated to true north!

  • @antonyh37
    @antonyh37 Рік тому +1

    This is not 100 percent true. The Dogon tribe's description of the star system was proven to be true. They had knowledge of the system and how it functioned long before humans had the capability to see that far into space.

  • @simonsyndaren
    @simonsyndaren 8 років тому +3

    In the Norse religion it is believed that the star represented Odin but they arent really sure about that. But they do know that a viking trade city named Hedeby worshipped the star.

    • @shedsumlight268
      @shedsumlight268 3 роки тому +1

      Actually Sirius was thought to represent Loki known as Loki's torch or lokabrenna the fiery one

  • @chrisv6435
    @chrisv6435 2 роки тому +1

    two dog star = cannabis, this star system is where marijuana originates

  • @EmbraceSuccess365
    @EmbraceSuccess365 2 роки тому +1

    It is more likely that the Dogon left Egypt for better grazing lands for their animals, (as they do today.) History only documents the Israelites as leaving Egypt to escape slavery.

  • @Katbaloo2022
    @Katbaloo2022 Рік тому +1

    Or maybe they are telling the truth. Maybe our calendar is off. Aren't there ancient glyphs on nearby cliffs?

  • @quemajor
    @quemajor 3 роки тому +3

    We all have belief systems and that's human nature.Those who question others beliefs should be corrected not to.

  • @urielstud
    @urielstud 3 роки тому +4

    ❤️ it!
    You could find out about novel brown dwarf star Sirius B or the rings of Saturn by astral travel, dude 😆

  • @watemelongaming362
    @watemelongaming362 8 років тому +5

    Are you sirius right now!

  • @emmeyatolo6431
    @emmeyatolo6431 3 роки тому +1

    why must it be right or wrong? It is mythology a way to remember.
    I would wonder more when Sirius the most important star to the Egyptians, the Goddess becomes a bitch?
    It may just and failing of Eurocentrism, but with the knowledge, the Dogon carry in their mythos, why are we to assume they were an enslaved people

  • @annanichols9994
    @annanichols9994 3 роки тому +8

    thank you fo being open minded, great to see science and myth co-creating new ancient ideas

  • @timothysommers4863
    @timothysommers4863 Рік тому

    I was told the reason why it is 60 years is because there is a 10 year overlap between the 2 planets.

  • @phantomwalker8251
    @phantomwalker8251 4 роки тому +4

    they were told all this thousands of yrs ago,maybe 20 th yrs ago,so,id say,thats pretty accurate..

  • @benjaminindra7740
    @benjaminindra7740 4 роки тому +8

    Sirius C is Emma Ya Tolo. The Dogon called the planet Nyan Tolo :) Otherwise spot on.

  • @dannalondon903
    @dannalondon903 3 роки тому +1

    Everyone knew? Please, most of the world DIDNT know and only when the Dogon Tribes of ancient Egypt KNEW IT, did today's Europe jump in. Tell the truth!

  • @johndwolynetz6495
    @johndwolynetz6495 Рік тому

    the problem with this is that their knowledge of the universe was around the same as the knowledge of the universe at time, meaning there were was no uranus or neptune mentioned.

  • @danzjewla
    @danzjewla 11 місяців тому

    It’s possible unicorns and magic once existed too. As it is very hard to absolutely prove a negative, I’m willing to give it a firm maybe.

  • @ovsgaming6063
    @ovsgaming6063 8 років тому +20

    This was very offensive towards me because I'm a lizard reptile alien who hates water and heat

    • @nightruler666
      @nightruler666 6 років тому +7

      Why so sirius?

    • @anitarussum4590
      @anitarussum4590 5 років тому +1

      Vampirerockstar 😂

    • @change8606
      @change8606 4 роки тому

      good that you point that out, Sirius atracts me and I love nature

  • @Dancinglol892
    @Dancinglol892 2 роки тому +1

    Its not so much a cultural belief so much as a belief of myself: For some reason I had a dream similar Abhishek Ghosh. However the music was more like I dont know how to describe it.. It sounded like if calming space style music mixed with Bossa Nova music. I also believe that Sirius does indeed have a third star but that star is only seen rarely and a sort of alignment where Sirius A is at the top Sirius C is in the middle and Sirius B is at the bottom. Also I look at where Sirius should be but I never actually see Sirius.. I am not surprised the Dogon don't know exactly where the system is. It sort of feels like a calling of some sort. I dont know could be me just freaking out.

  • @SomeGuy-nr9id
    @SomeGuy-nr9id 3 роки тому +1

    Goes back to the Egyptians prolly who were into astronomy Siris for the name sake of Osiris the god. Not to far fetched that the Egyptians made calculation on it and word traveled (much more so then word traveled from light years away). It's also not far fetch it came from mason's which was popular in Europe and the Usa in the past they have myths about siris and believe it is the morning star prolly mixed in from the bible as well. However i believe Jupiter was the morning star for the Romans and probably the Egyptians. Anubis was the dog looking god which again sort of ties in to egypt and most of the egyptian gods are actually depicted as blue (water gods of the nile) or green so that kinda makes sense.

  • @raoultesla2292
    @raoultesla2292 7 місяців тому +1

    How come you don't use this software in your current videos?

  • @scotthough7186
    @scotthough7186 8 років тому +2

    Its possible that theres a brown dwarf and a possible planet

  • @marcelgerhardt2161
    @marcelgerhardt2161 8 років тому +3

    I have two suggestions :
    1. An own system with (a) star(s)
    2. Could you talk about the Castor system in another video?
    I don't think that you're going to do these things, but it would be kind of cool.

    • @marcelgerhardt2161
      @marcelgerhardt2161 8 років тому

      Oh, and in the first suggestion I wanted to say a system like ours..

    • @whatdamath
      @whatdamath  8 років тому +1

      +Marcel Gerhardt (Marcelboy) I'll look into Castor system, thanks. It's sometimes hard to find enough information about certain systems

    • @marcelgerhardt2161
      @marcelgerhardt2161 8 років тому +1

      +Anton Petrov (WhatDaMath) Ok, by the way, I can't imagine how hard it is to have an active UA-cam channel and being a teacher at ones (sorry, if the word is wrong). Keep going.

    • @whatdamath
      @whatdamath  8 років тому +3

      it's pretty challenging, but fun. thanks!

  • @richardsearle4819
    @richardsearle4819 4 роки тому +3

    I hear a lot of dissing the dogon people. Maybe, just maybe you've had it wrong, the fact that the dogon people new so much about sirus. And we have only recently just found out about the 3 star system

    • @maud3444
      @maud3444 2 роки тому

      Correction: we still haven't found a third star

  • @owenmumba7122
    @owenmumba7122 Рік тому

    You never told the Dogon anything. You learnt from them.

  • @maud3444
    @maud3444 2 роки тому +3

    I understand why people want to believe the Dogon knew things about Sirius before present day scientists knew them. Heck, I am one of those people! I want this to be true! But after having studied this I have to admit that the so called evidence is very thin :( :( The first written records about these Dogon legends got written down AFTER western scientists found out Sirius was a double star system and the art people keep referring to can be interpreted as you like. It isn't showing a double Sirius star system, as much as I would really, really, really want it to be the case. It's depicting art. The best proof against this case is probably the amount of moons the Dogon claim Jupiter has. I believe they thought Jupiter has 4 moons, when in reality there are already 79 moons that we know of. But at the time when the Dogon legend was written down "the West" had already discovered 11 moons. The four moons the Dogon refer to are the 4 largest ones that were known for centuries. It wasn't until 1892 that a 5th moon was discovered. So yes, the fact that a jesuit could have spread the information about Sirius b and Jupiter's 4 moons somewhere around the turn of the 20th century is very plausible. I think the only thing that would prove the Doron theory to be correct is a discovery of a third Sirius star (brown dwarf) and I'm still hoping we'll find that star in the future. Untill that moment we have to remain skeptic people. As unpopular and unexciting as this might be.

  • @samanthasavarese7631
    @samanthasavarese7631 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you for the video. I read the book from Robert G. Temple, The Sirius Mistery. The Dogon are transferring this knowledge from older to younger generations since a couple of millenniums at least, or at least since their migration to West brought them to Mali, like you mentioned in the beginning of the video. They hold a ceremony every 60 years (mistakenly or not) since almost 2000 years and that makes just no possible that any Christian missionary or European went there to tell them nothing, since before Galileo invented the telescope there were no notion of Saturn and knowing about a binary system 8.3 light years from Earth it was pretty advanced for us Westerners up to 100 years ago. In fact, the system was discovered (officially in the West) a little over 100 years ago if I’m right. Nonetheless, the Dogon and probably some other non-white populations knew almost everything about it since a couple millenniums or so (I don’t remember exactly if their ceremonies date back to 1200 years ago or more but it has been at least 1200 years since they got this knowledge, according to Temple). The errors in their astronomical knowledge is likely due to the fact they pass this knowledge orally from one generation to another, and even assuming they made contact with someone from another planet, surely they didn’t speak the same language and understanding each other might have come with a number of challenges…
    Us European were still in the Mesozoic back then, so I guess Christian missionaries have nothing to claim regarding the matter.
    This might be hard to digest for someone who doesn’t quite think outside the box, but Non-Westerners have traditionally been more advanced than the rest of us for a much longer time than us being only technologically more advanced today.
    Lastly, a number of ancient non-westerners civilizations have documented contacts with alien civilizations. Think about the Annunnaki in Mesopotamia, and the findings in prehistoric mines in South Africa. It is also likely that the far superior astronomical knowledge of ancient Egypt was the result of alien exchanges.

  • @c.j.4078
    @c.j.4078 2 роки тому +1

    Very disrespectful to the Dogon … it’s clear and documented that the dogon had this knowledge way before any European settler’s … how dare you discredit them

  • @innerspace4you
    @innerspace4you 8 місяців тому

    Cant believe you are finally talking about the Dogon.
    How else did they know about sirius A and B.

  • @markotomovic4318
    @markotomovic4318 3 роки тому +1

    Hi. Thanks for the video I really enjoyed. Can you please tell me what simulator/softver did you use?seems so interesting

    • @maud3444
      @maud3444 2 роки тому

      Link is in the discribtion

  • @tylertyler8926
    @tylertyler8926 8 років тому +4

    It doesent make sense if humans told the humans dont make sense when u get right down to it.

    • @makanaki513
      @makanaki513 3 роки тому

      More like neanderthal descendants telling homo sapiens' descendants. Complete hocuspocus

  • @littlebird3495
    @littlebird3495 4 роки тому +3

    Anton’s voice sounds so different in these old videos, or is it just me?

  • @JonathanR1994
    @JonathanR1994 2 місяці тому

    Lately ppl are going nuts now that their iPhones can zoom in on it and all the weird shapes and colors it produces

  • @hanasisolo4680
    @hanasisolo4680 2 роки тому +1

    The stars communicate with each other before me any night I decide to stargaze.

  • @smartdoctorphysicist3095
    @smartdoctorphysicist3095 4 роки тому +2

    Hi the Dogon are right that is it, they have been right for over 4000 year. If you don't wish to believe it just move on.

  • @Vegito_fan6
    @Vegito_fan6 2 роки тому +1

    I believe the Dogon. I believe in Sirius C

  • @johnb6723
    @johnb6723 Рік тому

    A spoonful of sugar would weigh a ton on Sirius B, I believe.

  • @change9929
    @change9929 Рік тому

    They got the knowledge from the Egyptians,who got it from the atlanteans.

  • @djay8313
    @djay8313 3 роки тому +4

    The dogon story is true.Modern scientist are trying to discount them because the story is coming out of africa.Why would the dogon go through such great length to preserve there story by isolating themselves from foreigners who tried to conform them to other beliefs.There story is absolutely true and amazing.

    • @maud3444
      @maud3444 2 роки тому +3

      Why would scientists discount this because the Dogon are African?

    • @burnerr
      @burnerr 2 роки тому +1

      @@maud3444 people want to be offended so bad. These comments are the same on any video regarding ancient black cultures.

    • @burnerr
      @burnerr 2 роки тому

      @The Nose Picker I'm Mexican to begin with and didn't say anything other than what you just proved beautifully... always looking for an excuse to be offended.
      We now have equipment to put the stories to the test. Both can be true at the same time. The science can show you one thing and the culture can express that same thing in their way.

  • @thomasthomsen8322
    @thomasthomsen8322 8 років тому +5

    If you take the 100 nearest stars simulation Sirius system Will be there🙂

    • @sciblastofficial9833
      @sciblastofficial9833 6 років тому +1

      Thomas Thomsen Obvious, 8.6 lightyears away is Sirius system

  • @rsdtknqr
    @rsdtknqr 3 роки тому +3

    The reason the Dogon knew all of this stuff is because over centuries, they practiced initiation rites which made them clairvoyant, i.e. being able to see into the spiritual world and understand the spiritual laws (that we cannot measure) governing outcomes on the physical level (that we can measure). As So Above is So Below, as states Hermes Trismegistus (known as Thoth in Egypt), the inner cosmos in man is a mini version of the outer cosmos. They used their clairvoyance to see the correlation of what was in the body with what was out there in the cosmos. Therefore, they did not need to discover Sirius B with a telescope or UFO, they travelled there using their clairvoyance. What might suprise you, is that all cultures in the world possessed clairvoyance but over the last millennia, this ability disappeared gradually as was the will of the divine plan. As we lost it, we became more engrossed with matter and had to free ourselves with our gaze to the gods, so as to develop FREE WILL and clear thinking. The priests of the Dogon who would claim still to be clairvoyant, maybe one of the last few people who trained their spiritual 'organs' to gaze into the spiritual world. If you really wish to understand how this all works and even if you would want to develop yourself spiritually, read the books by Rudolf Steiner, ie:
    - The philosophy of freedom
    - Knowledge of the Higher World and its Attainment
    - Occult Science
    - Theosophy
    Please do not make the mistake of thinking Steiner is 'just one of the other occultists of the turn of the 19/20th century like Blavatsky or Edward Cayce. Steiner was/is the only person in the world ever to have investigated the science behind spirituality and give you the tools to thoroughly understand it, understand all mysteries of life and how to develop yourself spiritually. Reading his books is in itself the biggest learning curve. They are not easy to read: by conscious effort of thinking about his written words, imagining and feeling what these words evoke in you, you are doing the work.

  • @LibraryoftheUntold
    @LibraryoftheUntold 7 місяців тому

    Hi there! I am doing a video on the Nommos of the Dogon lore. Can I use a clip or two from this video. I will put a link to the video in the description.

  • @tanyaschexnayder5291
    @tanyaschexnayder5291 5 років тому +3

    well i hope this doesnt offend anyone but I think I have the third one and im not joking ive been trying to get it analyzed for almost two years now but nobody beleives.

  • @ubergamer1310
    @ubergamer1310 8 років тому +1

    it is possible but the main thing needed is more research. like you mentioned we need more advanced technology to find if this 3rd star exists, but with the inconsistencies in sirius a and sirius b in their orbits it is likely that there is another large object in the fancinity of them. however i would be subject to wait and see as i am not sure about this 3rd star theory.

    • @phantomwalker8251
      @phantomwalker8251 4 роки тому

      the dogon said & know,they were told that,is where they came from.BELIEVE IT.they knew sirius had 2 main stars,BEFORE WE HAD TELESCOPES.are you stupid.??.or ignorant..

  • @bjgeantil
    @bjgeantil 8 років тому +2

    can you die a video on arcturus, aldebaren, rigel, betelguese or antares?

  • @NeroPiroman
    @NeroPiroman 8 років тому +3

    as a muslim i never knew that sirius was relevant in the kur an

    • @soratsuki469
      @soratsuki469 8 років тому

      *qur'an
      u mistyped like lol .-.

    • @NeroPiroman
      @NeroPiroman 8 років тому +2

      Spyalectical Crabolism in bosnian languag its Kur an im a bosnian not an american so please dont try to be a smart ass

    • @soratsuki469
      @soratsuki469 8 років тому

      +Bosniantoptens im not american, and idk its like that sorry and i dont even try to be a smart ass

    • @NeroPiroman
      @NeroPiroman 8 років тому

      Spyalectical Crabolism ok then apologie axepted

    • @twami86
      @twami86 8 років тому

      in arabic it's called الشعرى.

  • @zeph6439
    @zeph6439 2 роки тому

    Africa was once part of the pre-dynastic Egyptian cultural nexus.

  • @antonemilia4484
    @antonemilia4484 3 роки тому +1

    That third star is like the Holy Ghost :)

  • @jayb3033
    @jayb3033 4 роки тому +2

    How can Sirius even have an Earth like planet if that star system is only 200 million yrs old? I thought it took over a billion yrs just for primitive life to evolve on a planet?

    • @davemwangi05
      @davemwangi05 4 роки тому +2

      That's why we're most likely from somewhere else. Just as the Dogons are from sirius, we're from somewhere else. It seems these lifeforms hop from one planet to the other. They won't allow you to know that they were correct. 50 years instead of 60 and that they have artefacts dating 400years older than the arrival of the europeans. And that they confirmed the third sun in the system.

    • @jayb3033
      @jayb3033 4 роки тому +1

      Well Divad, that still doesn't explain how a race like the Dogon or life period could have evolved in such a short time in a system like Sirius yet there are all these theories about advanced races eons beyond us there?

  • @toddmaek5436
    @toddmaek5436 3 роки тому +3

    Its funny how the dogon story with the nommos actually has WAY MORE EVIDENCE than Chistians have with jesus,

    • @maud3444
      @maud3444 2 роки тому

      WAY MORE? I'd say equally little

  • @andheardstudios8089
    @andheardstudios8089 2 роки тому

    This video is the key for helping me explain to people

  • @bettycooper369
    @bettycooper369 3 роки тому +2

    I just made a wish on it and wanted to see what's up 🌟

    • @shedsumlight268
      @shedsumlight268 3 роки тому

      Twinkle twinkle little star, how I know what you are!

  • @NewlyAwakened
    @NewlyAwakened 5 років тому

    I'm not sure the significance of every 6 six per se but it makes more sense to celebrate and remember all that info way more frequently than every 50 years so they don't forget it and have it change and evolve too much.

  • @rev.dr.stuartdd2395
    @rev.dr.stuartdd2395 4 роки тому +7

    @11:29 Maybe every sixty years the three stars line up in some form of an eclipse?
    maybe something you could work out in the simulator?

    • @kennybrown7695
      @kennybrown7695 3 роки тому +1

      Not possible! The C star is mathematically theorized.

  • @hasherdnene
    @hasherdnene 3 роки тому +4

    I am mind blowen. As you Mentioned the most of the cultures have legends about Sirius. Actually the "Mongolian secret book" about Ghenghis Khaan, starts with an extraterrestrial man from wolf star and a woman from a deer 🦌 star travelled across oceans to settle in Mongolia, near the river of Onon 😮

    • @maud3444
      @maud3444 2 роки тому

      It is the brightest star so this is not abnormal, no?

  • @anthonyzachary4498
    @anthonyzachary4498 4 роки тому +2

    That sabrina claudio Orion's belt

  • @mayowa60
    @mayowa60 2 роки тому

    Pls what is the name of the app that was used to show the sirius stars

  • @gelfling612
    @gelfling612 Рік тому

    There is a burnt out planet in the habitatal zone