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If I were Ivey I wouldn’t change my game. He’s already the goat. Who knows if solvers pollute his natural reading ability with percentages and math that take away from his already amazing gift of poker skills
Yea but it also might help him undertstand certain players typically better players and why they did what they did. or him at the least have a deeper understanding. He’s the goat but hasnt been seen playing too many high rollers publicly. Not saying he doesn’t play all the time but maybe him doing solvers might give tht confidence boost on playing in front of a camera more often while at the end/middle of his career bc now he feels complete knowing about solvers unlike before. My bad for long read
@ no. Phil Ivey did not cheat at baccarat. The casino agreed to his terms of play the dealers and the types of cards in play. The courts got that wrong. Ivey did not mark the cards. He just took advantage of imperfections. The casino didn’t have to agree to his terms of play, but they did because they wanted him to play.
@ It’s not the cards it’s that he colluded with the dealer to lift the cards at an angle so he could see the ones that are defective and that my friend is called a conspiracy that’s why he got convicted.
@ the casinos agreed to Ivey,s request for his dealers. He didn’t see the cards, he saw the backs of the cards and made use of edge sorts due to the imperfections of the cards. The casinos are in the gambling business and agreed to this. They didn’t have to agree. They should be responsible. The dealers didn’t do a false shuffle to alert Ivey the position of certain cards in the shoe. Had they done this, it would have been cheating. So no. There was no collusion here. Ivey played the game legally.
I dont think he should even touch solvers, it statistically ruined Negreanu in his heads up with Polk and years of WSOP. Choosing frequencies over if you think the opponent is weak only makes them worse
Doyle Brunson talked about the old days of cheats and games being held up... he saw a dude get blasted by another man with a shotgun if memory serves right. Then others getting dealt with and put in a hole in the desert. Crazy.
The dealers from one casino I play at go to the other reservation casino and play. These dealers I speak of all collude together at the table and text each other in game during hands.
Well, I've never heard of "solvers" maybe someone could explain it to me. Anyway, why didn't they ask him about the lawsuit that he lost against him several years ago? When the casino lost millions to him one night. He had a female coach, coaching him as he was playing a hand. I can't think of the name of the game. But, it was allowed at that time. He actually had many poker players come to his defense. Including my favorite, The poker kid.
To all the goofies that don't understand, Ivey didnt cheat, he exploited the casino just like the casino does everyday. He asked for a set of conditions which the casino willfully agreed to because he was playing so high. The argument is apples to oranges, advantage play against a casino and cheating against other players at poker are worlds apart. Its silly to speak on subjects you have no knowledge in.
Came here to say this. Would really like to have gotten Ivey's thoughts without the host talking over him. It has to be a tremendous temptation to show Ivey how smart he is, but that's not the point of an interview.
So we’re not going to talk about the real reason Phil is hesitant to talk about cheaters and give his fans the “kill ‘em all” red meat? If you could be more honest I’m sure Phil would be the first to say cheating the house is one thing, but not other players.
I'm sorry but there's no way I can agree. He just asked a casino to keep everything the same as he played baccarat. Nothing wrong with that because their error is their fault.
Yeah, that dude & his coach cheated, but they cheated fully out in the open.... so yeah. Im still amazed no one else at the final table called the floor to get a rulling.
I would like to point out in this "civil" day and age.We as poker players, 150 years ago would shoot each other over this game for cheating....just sayin
Iykyk Ivey don’t grind solvers… and he probably never will.. he is a Solver.. most humans cant play well enough to beat him as he is.. he’s a hustler not computer science nerd. No offense to the GTO nerds.. he’s old school poker savant
So funny. Lance Armstrong, Mark McGwire, track athletes, professional football, the list is endless. Where there’s money on the line, there’s cheating. Acting as if you’re astonished is disingenuous.
Solvers have been out forever but since Ivey recently said that he's one day going to look at them, that's why he's the goat? 😆 bro get off his nuts ffs
Yea Ivey isn’t getting into solvers anytime. If you already haven’t there no “will later”. He is great player, all the respect has great intuition for cards, probably isn’t the best anymore but he is not anyone that you can discount in high stakes game or tourney
Ivey is a smart man, but he should have just said there's no governing body for poker as a sport/gaming organisation. It's not well-regulated... So the fact you have to corner someone or force them to pay you when you're scammed doesn't need to be talked about, but the real issue is that there's no protections for players. It's underground as much as it isn't, so it's like asking "if someone robbed you on the street, what would you do?" except you can't even call the cops because they don't care. So the answer to "what would you do?" becomes an underground reaction
I’d do some research before commenting. He set his rules for that baccarat session and the casino agreed to all of them. They’re the real cheaters for not holding up to their end of the deal
If you know what the cards are, before they are dealt. That is cheating. Regardless of any rules agreed upon. He clearly hid that from the casino, hence he cheated
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What an a55hole you are. Showing a picture of Robbi when talking about cheating in poker.
Really like the way you put this one together - GTO way to include more information/backstory on the topic
Nice to see ya posting again! Keep up the great work
@@jetliorigami thank you very much, it's good to be back on YT
If I were Ivey I wouldn’t change my game. He’s already the goat. Who knows if solvers pollute his natural reading ability with percentages and math that take away from his already amazing gift of poker skills
You'll like my next video based off this interview. It goes deep on this!
Yea but it also might help him undertstand certain players typically better players and why they did what they did. or him at the least have a deeper understanding. He’s the goat but hasnt been seen playing too many high rollers publicly. Not saying he doesn’t play all the time but maybe him doing solvers might give tht confidence boost on playing in front of a camera more often while at the end/middle of his career bc now he feels complete knowing about solvers unlike before. My bad for long read
Ivey has definitely changed his game over the years. He’s adaptive to beat the modern pros.
It will add on to his game not take away
Brother. Anyone that knows anything about poker knows hellmuth is better than ivy
I love the way Finish people speak, the tone and the bluntness, they don't fuck about! Patrik is a legend!! Quality quote there!
haha and that snowflake Matt Berkey holding himself back from saying something in offense to that statement. So great
Those who cheat should be barred from playing for life.
Ok start with Phill ivy for cheating in baccarat .
@ no. Phil Ivey did not cheat at baccarat. The casino agreed to his terms of play the dealers and the types of cards in play. The courts got that wrong. Ivey did not mark the cards. He just took advantage of imperfections. The casino didn’t have to agree to his terms of play, but they did because they wanted him to play.
@ It’s not the cards it’s that he colluded with the dealer to lift the cards at an angle so he could see the ones that are defective and that my friend is called a conspiracy that’s why he got convicted.
@ the casinos agreed to Ivey,s request for his dealers. He didn’t see the cards, he saw the backs of the cards and made use of edge sorts due to the imperfections of the cards. The casinos are in the gambling business and agreed to this. They didn’t have to agree. They should be responsible. The dealers didn’t do a false shuffle to alert Ivey the position of certain cards in the shoe. Had they done this, it would have been cheating. So no. There was no collusion here. Ivey played the game legally.
Where is the clip of patrick saying people are marking cards? Cant find it anywhere
where is the full podcast/conversation??
Back in the day, they would just blow you away at the table.
Actually they would stick you in the back of the trunk
In my old neighborhood
I thought this was the wildest click bait I ever saw but god damn go on Ivey
EV plays poker to?
@ where you think the EV in EVScape came from bro
@@EVScape I was thinking you loved Teslas
RIP Mike Postle
What happened to him? Or did he go “missing” ?
Witness protection for Postle
What is worst GG poker or cheaters?? Feels like a push at this point
I dont think he should even touch solvers, it statistically ruined Negreanu in his heads up with Polk and years of WSOP. Choosing frequencies over if you think the opponent is weak only makes them worse
We need more vids like this
I like to mix it up
Ivey has been saying for years he is going to dive into the solvers. We will see if he does we may get the GOAT evolving even more.
Imagine he already has and he’s just concealing that knowledge
Doyle Brunson talked about the old days of cheats and games being held up... he saw a dude get blasted by another man with a shotgun if memory serves right. Then others getting dealt with and put in a hole in the desert. Crazy.
The dealers from one casino I play at go to the other reservation casino and play. These dealers I speak of all collude together at the table and text each other in game during hands.
That's actually a crime, or three. Report them.
@ the local gaming commission is aware but the grey areas keep anything from happening I believe.
Well, I've never heard of "solvers" maybe someone could explain it to me. Anyway, why didn't they ask him about the lawsuit that he lost against him several years ago? When the casino lost millions to him one night. He had a female coach, coaching him as he was playing a hand. I can't think of the name of the game. But, it was allowed at that time. He actually had many poker players come to his defense. Including my favorite, The poker kid.
In the wild wild west, people were really getting that death penalty! MAKE POKER GREAT AGAIN!
We're being cheating every day in online poker
They used to smash on hand unrepairable for them to never get caught cheating again.
How about taking them to Court and not paying out, how does that sound Ivy?
To all the goofies that don't understand, Ivey didnt cheat, he exploited the casino just like the casino does everyday. He asked for a set of conditions which the casino willfully agreed to because he was playing so high. The argument is apples to oranges, advantage play against a casino and cheating against other players at poker are worlds apart. Its silly to speak on subjects you have no knowledge in.
The Legend!!
What about the dealers
They can and do cheat as well
MECHANICS
Serious question - does he have a stutter?
Nah. He is being careful regarding what he wants to put out
He's not wrong
In fact he's right
Fun fact, someone at this table was accused of cheating and lost in court.
So im not going to take his opinion too seriously
I just commented on that
@@kevinwaters1272 except he didn't cheat, he asked for a set of conditions and the casino agreed
They should record all hand histories and calculate how much they gained and reward it to their opponents
Who TF is inviting Phil fvcking Ivey to their home game?
Serious degenerates😅
lmao for real they are signing up to lose
EXTREMELY rich people.
lol rich people love to gamble with pros.
I’m not rich but it but fun to play with such a legend of the game. I’d lose a couple thousand for the entertainment
Robl looks pretty guilty when Patrick Antonius was talking about people marking cards. Wouldnt surprise me in the least
Then you sir, are stupid
That's pretty wild to just throw out into the world, yeesh
@aaronyarlas3553 is that you Robl?😅
@@wizard3117 I wish 😂
I can't really watch this, whenever Phil Ivey talks you interrumpt with unnecessary comments at the beginning
Came here to say this. Would really like to have gotten Ivey's thoughts without the host talking over him. It has to be a tremendous temptation to show Ivey how smart he is, but that's not the point of an interview.
So we’re not going to talk about the real reason Phil is hesitant to talk about cheaters and give his fans the “kill ‘em all” red meat? If you could be more honest I’m sure Phil would be the first to say cheating the house is one thing, but not other players.
If there’s one thing Ivy knows about, it’s shady behavior in a casino.
Seriously hilarious, of all people 😂
@@webchamp930he did nothing wrong
I'm sorry but there's no way I can agree. He just asked a casino to keep everything the same as he played baccarat. Nothing wrong with that because their error is their fault.
Wait. Are you comparing cheating in poker VS other players....to rigging the game in your favor against institutions that have always done so?
@@MrBeatboxmasta for a guy who did nothing wrong, he sure did lose a lot of count cases.
this felt like a interrogation.. and ivey came across defensive.. what was the purpose of the sit down..
Yeah, that dude & his coach cheated, but they cheated fully out in the open.... so yeah. Im still amazed no one else at the final table called the floor to get a rulling.
Criminal charges just like people who manipulate the stock markets etc…
I would like to point out in this "civil" day and age.We as poker players, 150 years ago would shoot each other over this game for cheating....just sayin
What’s his stance on cheating at baccarat?
Truly most ppl seem to think cheating against a casino is “good” because casinos are set up to beat you
@@crazymike401 except he didn't cheat, he asked for a set of conditions the casino agreed to.
@@adamdouthy8023 also colluded with the dealer and was convicted in court for cheating.
Do y’all honestly think solvers really make you that much better?
Yes I’ve solved the game
How so please elaborate and lmk what tools/programs you use?
@@santanah.6897 my brain
Is edge sorting considered cheating?
in the U.K court, Yes, yes it is.
NO !!! he got cheated
@@Francis-yv6hc the casino probably owned the court like they own the gaming board in USA.
No its not, its smart,
it was their own decks ffs , so no.
START WITH YOURSELF BOY
Iykyk Ivey don’t grind solvers… and he probably never will.. he is a Solver.. most humans cant play well enough to beat him as he is.. he’s a hustler not computer science nerd. No offense to the GTO nerds.. he’s old school poker savant
You should start making shorts to gain more viewers.
No cheating at poker but cheating at Baccarat is fine
Screw the casinos!
Whoa. How does one cheat with glasses?
Wow, I guess you should always fold to PI lest he labels you a "'cheater".
So funny. Lance Armstrong, Mark McGwire, track athletes, professional football, the list is endless. Where there’s money on the line, there’s cheating. Acting as if you’re astonished is disingenuous.
Ivey didnt cheat, just stole players money
He used the advantages he could
Poker is dead, solved and ruined by dungeon dwellers.
go to Texas.
womp womp, get good
phil is upset his wages are garnished still for cheating?
Bro, you need to get with the times, Borgata and Ivey settled out of court, 5 years ago.
The clips you chose to show are really great ! But your commentary not so much... Maybe become a clip channel !?
What did you not like about commentary?
That's funny, considering that Ivey got caught cheating and had to pay back $10M bucks..........
That wasn't cheating. He exploited a flaw in a game thats rigged in the casinos favour anyways.
What an a55hole move. Showing a picture of Robbi when talking about cheating!
Phil is not going to self snitch so why ask?
Why would he use a solver when played more hand then it lol 😂
Ohhhh who cheated at baccarat ? Opsssssss
Is HCL dead ? Disappeared..
Didn’t he get caught cheating at baccarat he had to pay the money back
So we’re going to take advice from a known cheater on what should be done with cheaters
@@Nuksukow he didn't cheat goofy, he asked for a set of conditions that the casino willfully agreed to.
Here we go ! Phil doesn't want to react to that topic whole heartedly cause he's been accused of Cheating.duh😅
How does the big cheater ivey have an opinion? This is too funny. How many lawsuits do you have sir?
Solvers have been out forever but since Ivey recently said that he's one day going to look at them, that's why he's the goat? 😆 bro get off his nuts ffs
beheading lol Did he forget he got caught cheating and got sued and lost, in Asia?
Ivey got the crazy eyes when he was thinking about getting cheated. Love it lol
Great
he cheats? thats why he not talking? xD or he bring gangsters? thats why he cannot talk? which one? xD lol
One of the biggest cheaters ever.
Yea Ivey isn’t getting into solvers anytime. If you already haven’t there no “will later”. He is great player, all the respect has great intuition for cards, probably isn’t the best anymore but he is not anyone that you can discount in high stakes game or tourney
Ivey is so full of sh*t. Just saying what wpt wants him to say.
Wasn't he caught cheating?
Is it out of sync ? Or is Phil on medication or some other drug ?
I know what you mean. It's the way Ivey speaks.
Ivey is a smart man, but he should have just said there's no governing body for poker as a sport/gaming organisation. It's not well-regulated...
So the fact you have to corner someone or force them to pay you when you're scammed doesn't need to be talked about, but the real issue is that there's no protections for players. It's underground as much as it isn't, so it's like asking "if someone robbed you on the street, what would you do?" except you can't even call the cops because they don't care. So the answer to "what would you do?" becomes an underground reaction
Ironic 😂
Says Ivey, the guy who literally edged sported for millions of dollars lol.
Was against the casino and not other players
Thats a big difference
Edge sorting is not illegal.
lol this comment is so dumb.
The casino agreed to the terms
You dont sound very familiar with that situation 🤔
Ivey is a “ cheater”! He uses a type of marked cards at a certain casino! It’s more the patterns on the cards and how they were cut!
ivey is a cheater to!
this guy LITERALLY cheated and got sued for it LOLOLOL
Incorrect
I’d do some research before commenting. He set his rules for that baccarat session and the casino agreed to all of them. They’re the real cheaters for not holding up to their end of the deal
If you know what the cards are, before they are dealt. That is cheating. Regardless of any rules agreed upon. He clearly hid that from the casino, hence he cheated
False
@@antho4779shut up