Start Capacitors & Run Capacitors for Electric Motors - Differences Explained by TEMCo
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2012
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What's the difference between a start capacitor and a run capacitor? Can you use them interchangeably? See why these two types of capacitors cannot always be substituted for one another.
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This is one of the best UTube videos I've seen. You explained the capacitors & their uses very well PLUS you blew one up for everybody to see how they fail. Yeah
Sorry talk very fast with no clear , enough text for explanation
and it's an ad
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Very well done! All tutorials should be this easy to understand. I have absolutely no doubt now how to identify a running or start capacitor or how they shouldn't be used. Thank you!
Thanks for the feedback - we'll definitely keep the audio quality in mind for future videos.
Why DC motors does not need these kind of capacitors???
Excellent! Just what I needed to keep from blowing myself up. Got the new "start" cap installed and motor running.
Just what I needed at this moment. Thanks for taking the time to share.
Thank you for watching! Glad you found it useful.
Great Video!!! thanks for explaining the two different types. I know nothing about them. Installed a start capacitor in a run setup by mistake and it blew up right away hahaha. Now I know that it needs a run capacitor to work. Thanks again, saved me from buying a new motor for the bandsaw
I can’t tell you how many capacitor videos I’ve watched. This video gave it to you in layman‘s terms it shows you a start capacitor had to run capacitor and how they work. Very good.
Awesome video! Thanks alot for taking the time to make this! Funny the background behind you, because this is exactly the info i needed to complete my RPC and get my shop back online!! Thanks again! Awesome!
Compact and clear yet propper information to get going with, great video which helped me forward
i took hvac class about 8 years ago ,,,thanks for your video ,interesting . love to learn
Some capacitors are 1000+ mfd, though many have low capacitance ranges as well. In your case, you could easily use a run cap in place of a start cap.
Some capacitors are built with a "Pressure Sensitive Interrupter" design that causes them to fail before internal pressures can cause serious injury. The one we showed is designed so that the top of the capacitor expands and breaks internal wiring.
Good Video! Thanks for Sharing!
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"IF" the clock on the back wall was accurate, you did this in one take. Until you started blowing stuff up, you just kept rolling without a bleep or hiccup. Sometimes people aren't just watching what you do, but how you get it done as well. Very good on both counts. Congratulations.
Great video but one thing to note.... When recording the video I think you had the sound levels volume to high for your microphone., that is why the volume is kind of popping up on a lot of you words. thanks.
Great work if you have any more heating or air conditioning tips I like to see them very knowledgeable
Great Video. Simple and concise.
Hey thank you for making this video. ;)
100% educational and professional all the way through.
Excellent demonstration. Good info on the differences.
Thank u for the info sir, this is exactly what I need to know for testing a start capacitor.
Best explanation ive watchd out of 25 vids. Thank u
Great video! One question: You mentioned that run capacitors have a 100% duty cycle so they can remain in the circuit. I want to use these capacitors for a pf correction project on an induction motor, but as my pf will be changing, i need to provide nearly constant switching in which the caps are introduced and taken out of the circuit. Is this safe to do for run caps, or should i use a different type of capacitor?
Thank you in advance!
This is a great video. I have a question about capacitors in parallel, specifically for a well pump. I have not opened my control box yet to see if my well pump controller uses a start capacitor or a run capacitor. Is there any danger in paralleling that capacitor (provided it is the same type) ? I’m in the northeast and we recently had a tornado that left us without power for a week, my generator was struggling with the peak inrush current for our well pump when there were other loads drawing on it at the same time. I wanted to see if I could alleviate some of that stress with an additional capacitor. Any knowledge you have to offer on this would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Judging from the capacitance, it appears to be a start capacitor. Start capacitors typically have a range of capacitances, while run capacitors give a single number. The values on start caps also tend to be higher than those on run caps.
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My start up capacitor on my compressor is only 31.5uF at 400v (2 terminal) if i buy a much bigger uF rating ie (400uF) would it make my compressor start easier.
Mine at present doesn't always start up every time, sometimes it buzzes upon start up and freezes,if i spin the motor by hand it will start up, is my start up capacitor faulty and would it cause these start up problems??
Is the voltage spec on a Start (or Run) cap an absolute value?
In other words, will a 250v rated cap work ok in a 110v circuit, given the µF is correct ?
I would like to see the voltage meter readings when you are checking the capacitors in this video. Thank you
Run caps could be use for PF correction. It would be important to be sure that the caps that are out of the circuit at any given time are drained before being reintroduced to the circuit.
Good Video. Very well done. In your demonstration are you just throwing raw AC power across the caps with out any type of a buffer in the circuit? Thanks.
I have an older AC motor that is 240v and runs two capacitors. I went to fire it up and one of the capacitors smoked up. The other one was entirely cool and I noticed it doesn't seem to have any juice in it. The smokey one was spraying heck all over the place.
My suspicion was that one capacitor went bad and it wasn't able to get up to speed and thus the centrifugal switches weren't able to kick in and it smoked the other one. Does that make sense or am I completely off the mark.
Also for replacing these would I need 120v capacitors since it's one capacitor on each 120v circuit or would I need two 240v capacitors? Mine also don't have the bleed down resistor on them, not sure if that's necessary for the newer ones or not. It's an old saw from the 20s but the motor is definitely newer.
Stumbled across these videos from your ebay auctions. Figured I'd see what you guys have to say on it.
you have provided me knowledge and one day I will reciprocate by buyimg parts from you. that is how the world should be.
Looks so good, high quality built
thanks for the demo
An educational promotion; don't see that very often in youtube land - well done :)
2:41 consider this when considering adding a capacitor to my living room bathroom exhaust blower motor to stop it from getting stuck on start up.
Great Video. THANKS!
would one for a celin fan that has the same UF and voltage work cause i can find those but not the round ones
Great video!
What ohm and power is the discharge resistor you used?
Nice job dude,thanks
I was looking at Baldor 6" Bench Grinders. They have approx. 14 different models! One of the descriptions says: Built for heavy duty grinding, powered by 1/3 hp Baldor PSC type motor (except 612E & 662E which are split phase)
What would be better for that type of bench grinder, a (PSC) Permanent Split Capacitor or a Split Phase motor?
Is one harder or take longer to start? Do you have to spin the wheels to get it going?
You are very well spoken, thanks for the vid!
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Thank you again for your help.
At what temperature do standard motor windings melt?
This isn't something we specialize in, but you can look up info on power factor correction using capacitors.
Hey man.. Great video, my motor is humming, I swapped over a capacitor I had in shop, it started motor but cap exploded hahaha after a minute, I will drop a link for my problem, it is a pdf file with all parts listed, I think it is a run capacitor I need, it's the the 66uf 50Hz.. One on the list thanks you my good man
Hi and thank you for your help. I was going to take the motor apart but thought an easier test. I snipped off one of the cap wires then turned on the small band saw. The motor just hummed so I quickly turned the motor but it would not start. I then reconnected the cap, turned the motor on and it ran. While it was running, I removed the jumper from the cap and the motor slowed down a bit. So I think this is a run cap. Have I diagnosed this correctly? Thank you.
can u help me find these videos on how to test a DC motor, slipring motor and a single phase motor..its for my trade test that am writing monday..Or explain to me how to do these test
I have a 3/4 hp bench grinder with a PTC relay for the start winding. The PTC relay is bad but I can't find any for a 3/4" hp motor. Any suggestions?
Thank you! Great video!
hi.. i gota a 1ton AC works on 240v ac. its got 35uf cap for compressor. can i add capacitor bank to reduce amps draw. if so what consequences i have to face. kindly explain.
We don't have specific instructions on repairing this, as they can vary depending on motor manufacturers.
You might want to just try getting a capacitor of matching values, as they're fairly inexpensive.
Thanks for the info! Do you sell high voltage pulse capacitors?????
Very well done.
Thank you
Do you have an exact voltage rating? We do have 100 mfd run caps (check out our ecom site link in the video description) rated at 370 - 440 V.
Very nice video, thanks!
Useful video !
Thank you. Very informative video
Thang you for that sharing sir.
Hi I have a air compressor used for painting cars, when its very cold weather the compressor sometimes won't start up. When i pull the red switch up to start it, it buzzes loudly tries to start but doesn't have enough power. If the weather is hot, then most of the time it starts.
It has gotten progressively worse at starting now it's about a 50/50 if it's going to fire up or not, when it does start it runs perfect and generates lots of pressure.
If i helped the motor along with my hand by spinning the fan blades it does start, sometimes it starts slowly whilst buzzing then gradually build up speed then runs okay after about 10 seconds.
Does it sound like the start capacitor at fault? , I do not have a run capacitor on this compressor.
Could the start capacitor (faulty) CAUSE ALL THESE ISSUES?
I have a 36V forklift with an ailing capacitor rated at 150uf and 250v (250 P.V.W.) The part number on it is FB-887 and it seems to be impossible to find. Would I be able to run an array of smaller run capacitors adding up 150uf?
Some of the speed controllers can't be used with a motor with a capacitor. I was wondering if this refers to the start capacitor only?
hi im curious i have a shakey fan blade on my ac unit , i had the motor and the capasitator replaced this morninig and now the AC fan blade shakes the whole unit a smidge, will that kill the motor on the AC fan unit?
So just to clarify, you can replace a start capacitor with a run capacitor if it has sufficient micro-Farads? For example I have a 8uF start capacitor, I can replace it with a 8uF run capacitor?
great Video thanks
Your video on differences between run and start capacitors is very good. What you did not mention is the larger capacitance will deliver a certain current for a LONGER (time) as required. One can obtain the same current level with a small capacitance but the time constant is much shorter, and this will not work! In reality, current delivered by a capacitor is determined by I=V/R. Remember there is a time constant! For example a voltage of 100 volts across a capacitor with a 1 ohm resistor across capacitor will deliver 100 amperes (time constant not taken into account,) Capacitors can more or less be inspected on performance by using an ohm meter on the megohm scale, across a discharged capacitor. Reading should be in the megohm or higher, Basically an open circuit. For quality, apply the operating DC voltage across the cap. to charge. Then install a DC Ma meter to view current flow into the capacitor. This determines the number of DC ohms of this capacitor, ( ohms =V/I ) and shows the power factor. The higher the Ma flow into this capacitor, the worse this capacitor is or is rising to 1, power factor. Power factor is PF = R/Z. It should be 0, or almost no current flow indicates a good capacitor! (R is extremely high.). FYI, there should be no heat detected at any time. To increase capacitor life, add parallel capacitors at the same voltage but adding to required capacitance only , not over. For example a 100 uf cap. can be split twice of 2 x 50 uf or more. Splitting the current demanded by the motor capacitor is always easier on a cap. when multi units are in parallel, and this results in added capacitor life! You might need hundreds of amperes for starting and the small R of the capacitor adds up when delivering lots of amperes, resulting in heat in the capacitor, a no, no.
great video, thanks
If a motor calls for a 5mF run CAP will the motor be damaged if you use a 7.5 or 10mF run CAP?
I have a 1/6 horsepower 240 volt normal house freezer that is rated at 90 watts, I believe that equates to 124kW motor. I want to help the motor get started/run more efficiently etc. It connects to a 2500 Watts inverter (5000watts surge) though I want to dedicate a much smaller inverter. Can you please suggest what size and type of capacitor I could use and point out where I can get info on clear instructions on installing it? These is NOT already a capacitor in it.
I have a 10hp 230v three phase air compressor I am wanting to run on 230v single phase what start capacitor and run capacitors would you recommend to generate the third field?
If replacing a capacitor, if not 1.5x the line rated voltage, what voltage can it be or does it need to be exactly the same?
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I’m confused about you usage of “duty cycle”. I’ve only been exposed to the term regarding a DC square wave signal at a fixed frequency and duty cycle refers to how much of the wave is “high” vs “low”. Never heard it used discussing AC signals. I would appreciate any feedback.
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Help pleas
Can I use 1µfu 500 v.ac or 2.5 µf 450v to run 1.8 450 fan motor for start?
Thank you for commenting, and we're glad that the video helped you out. If you have any other questions or ideas on future videos, let us know!
Thank you for that sharing sir.
I have a 220 VAC sanding machine motor, replaced Now starts slow and take time to gradually get to proper speed (around 5-8 sec). Is it the wrong replacement mtor or starting capacitor? Should I increase the capacitance? Appreciate your help.
I have a 2002 Fleetwood Bounder 32' rv. One of the rooftop (Coleman Mach) air conditioners stopped throwing cold air because after getting up there to check it, there was oil everywhere on the wires and it smelled from the wire casing melting. Is it safe to just replace the hard start capacitor, or should I replace all 3. (There is a bundle of 3 there). Thank you for any thoughts and/or responses. (Roger)
To sum this up when you connect caps in series you add the voltages but you divide the mfd by the number of caps in series. Caps in parallel you add the MFD and the voltage remains the same
Thank you for the reply. Perhaps I should open the motor and look for an centrifugal switch.
I have a couple carpet blowers that run off and on. Would this be a capacitor problem. They run for ten minutes and stop for five minutes
I'm impressed and I don't know anything. I am experimenting with running an AC 230volt washing machine motor on DC 12volts and upwards. I am pleased with the results. However I need more start torque. Can I achieve this with capacitors and if so how do I go about it. Many thanks for the video. I learnt something I did not know today.
My AC went out. My intent was to do the electrical checks, but it started out with a dead mouse on top of the capacitor. I cleaned all the debris, then did the checks for the compressor which was fine as was the relay and controller voltage, leaving the capacitor. I couldn't find any shorts on the capacitor but it is the last item to prove out. It did have a bulge on the top. So I ordered it. I get it tomorrow. Question: was it the mouse that may have cause the capacitor to fail?
i have a 1967 vintage high frequency arc starter that has a leaking mica capacitor inside...is there a modern design capacitor (more effecient) thaT I can use as a replacement?...i think it was 2.0 mfd 5000v 6.amp in a 3in x1 rectangular black box
There are replacement caps that match that spec out there, but we don't carry them. eBay might be a good source for them.
Is it a good idea to install a start capacitor if compressor run capacitor keeps blowing? Could this keep the unit working for a while until it can be replaced?
very professional thanks
Very informative, kind of a shame the audio is bad quality. Gotta watch those clip levels.
Well worth watching.
Also I have a start capacitor on it and it has failed could It possibly had a run cap on it idk because it exploded but it has a centrifical switch on it so idk
i m using capasitor to reduce my electrical bills can it be done
Thanks for the information and demonstration. I have one question about start capacitors. I assume they are parallel to the load … ie., across the 240 vac power. What makes it “drop out” of the circuit once it does its work?
A centrifugal switch is used. This opens the start capacitor circuit once the centrifugal switch hits a certain amount of RPMs.
I have a Lakewood floor fan that runs slowly or not at all on low settings.It does not seem to be a lube problem. Any ideas.
Can I use a run capacitor to start a motor with a load but I need it to keep going at least for 1 minute without any other power source. This is a 12 V DC, car wiper motor, under load more than 5 amp. How big should the capacitor be if this is possible?
Okay tell me a bote the run capacitor. How you know the size of capacitor to use on your 3phase motor?
16 uf is generally not enough to start a motor, but CBB60 SH seems to be a part number for an Amico brand start capacitor.
great video I never knew a capacitor could store DC voltage
Hi there,
I am looking for 6 microfarad x3 capacitor. Could you explain what type 9f capacitor it is? Thanks
I have a primeair compressor the cap is a 55uf 360v/250v I ordered a 53-64mfd 250vac start and 53-64 330vac start burnt both must need run caps? what do you have to get me working? thanks Mike k.
Can you explain how you are running an AC motor on DC power? This will help us understand more about your set up.
All VFD‘s that run AC motors is actually positive negative DC that mimics ac
Good. Helpful.