Why Queen Elizabeth Carriers Have Twin Islands?

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  • Опубліковано 27 гру 2020
  • There are at least five advantages to having two separate islands on HMS Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carriers. But the main reason for such a design can only be found below the deck. Enjoy!
    All the footage used in this video is under MOD license from Royal Navy Imagery archive. www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and...
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  • @damiengeorge8307
    @damiengeorge8307 3 роки тому +5456

    Why am I watching this, I don't even own an aircraft carrier...

    • @jaroslavsevcik3421
      @jaroslavsevcik3421 3 роки тому +440

      Because after you have watched this you can decide better which one to buy! :D

    • @MatConlon
      @MatConlon 3 роки тому +160

      Not with an attitude like that, my guy

    • @RoundBrushStevesteve
      @RoundBrushStevesteve 3 роки тому +132

      I've just put a down payment on my own air craft carrier and they said nothing about a second island! :/

    • @madaxe79
      @madaxe79 3 роки тому +23

      @@jaroslavsevcik3421 yeah but there’s not much in the used market these days.

    • @m.m14433
      @m.m14433 3 роки тому +8

      Ya but one day you might. Work hard enough save your money...

  • @remipoujoulat7759
    @remipoujoulat7759 3 роки тому +2778

    There's one for the rear-admiral and one for the front-admiral.

    • @PANZERFAUST90
      @PANZERFAUST90 3 роки тому +58

      GETOUT!!!!➡➡➡➡

    • @omarbaba9892
      @omarbaba9892 3 роки тому +10

      Very unfunny

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 3 роки тому +127

      Don't listen to Omar, that was awesome!

    • @remipoujoulat7759
      @remipoujoulat7759 3 роки тому +49

      @@MonkeyJedi99 No worries I don't care about them, that's still 314 likes for me and 1 to 4 for them to this date so they're the unfunniest kind.😂

    • @PS-hv7on
      @PS-hv7on 3 роки тому +5

      🤣

  • @luapaluap94
    @luapaluap94 3 роки тому +3311

    Argintina has already put a claim into the United nations that these two islands belong to them

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 3 роки тому +64

      Too funny!

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 3 роки тому +303

      And they call them "Las Bridgeas" and "Las Flightcontrolas"

    • @jesso777
      @jesso777 3 роки тому +83

      Bravo 👏 and they have us much claim to those as the Falklands

    • @jesso777
      @jesso777 3 роки тому +9

      @@alfonsomartinezinfante6685 change the flag and its not British. That's how it works.

    • @T.B.Y.S.
      @T.B.Y.S. 3 роки тому +66

      Heard that China is claiming it as theirs also, they said they have a map to prove it

  • @IVIaskerade
    @IVIaskerade 3 роки тому +2649

    The other advantage is that against a numerically superior foe, it can split into two smaller carriers to even things up.

    • @nickh5081
      @nickh5081 3 роки тому +197

      I think it also transforms into a super robot... with two heads!

    • @brunothebat4122
      @brunothebat4122 3 роки тому +57

      Yeah, and why do I get the Jedi Cruiser stuck in my head? I guess the common theme is two islands.

    • @vinkhe861
      @vinkhe861 3 роки тому +31

      What if there are three enemy carriers though????

    • @62Cristoforo
      @62Cristoforo 3 роки тому +51

      Also, the rear island can separate and become airborne for strategic purposes, if needed.

    • @ZaHandle
      @ZaHandle 3 роки тому +37

      Ah yes the titanic method

  • @paulmarchant9231
    @paulmarchant9231 3 роки тому +7678

    We're British, we have islands everywhere ...

  • @Mackinac_Man
    @Mackinac_Man 3 роки тому +3209

    They built two islands for social distancing.

  • @phineascampbell3103
    @phineascampbell3103 3 роки тому +161

    The arc royal wasn't "lost," we decided it could seem impolite to carry on winning with this particular carrier after it was dented and a bit scruffy looking...

  • @aucun001
    @aucun001 3 роки тому +713

    The second islands is for " Tea Storage ".

    • @sameerthakur720
      @sameerthakur720 3 роки тому +16

      ...and the second island for warm beer.

    • @muckspreader1able
      @muckspreader1able 3 роки тому +8

      @@sameerthakur720 no that's wrong we have the Americans to thank for warm beer.

    • @sameerthakur720
      @sameerthakur720 3 роки тому +8

      @@muckspreader1able I've read a historical record from 50 BC (Asterix in Britain), which proves that Brits had warm beer in those times.😂🤣😂🤣

    • @theborderer1302
      @theborderer1302 3 роки тому +11

      @@sameerthakur720 I was in Australia once and complained that the beer was so cold it hurt my teeth. An Aussie replied, "listen mate, we like to drink it, not shave in it".

    • @Vacublaster1
      @Vacublaster1 3 роки тому +3

      A tea-making facility not tea storage

  • @thirdactwarrior317
    @thirdactwarrior317 3 роки тому +155

    Great video. As a former US carrier aviator, the one disadvantage you mentioned does not make sense to me. On US carriers, FlyCo, which we call Pri-Fly, is on a different floor of the island than the bridge. So Pri-Fly personnel and bridge personnel do not work side-by-side and have to use wired communication anyway. It works fine. Frankly, I would not want bridge personnel next to me in Pri-Fly. It would be very distracting. There are times in Pri-Fly everyone needs to shut up except for the Air Boss. The chatter on the bridge is constant.

    • @pizzaivlife
      @pizzaivlife 2 роки тому +19

      sure, but then you could presumably use a tactical broom to pound on the ceiling if they don't do as requested

    • @Myself_is_Me
      @Myself_is_Me 2 роки тому

      I wont say there wont be times where things get a little hectic on the carrier. But since there isn't the same kind of problematic landings or the chances of them in the same way due to the vertical landing of the f35s versus of coursee arresting wire landings. So I suppose working side by side will be beneficial in this case. Something which they will be missing. But I do think there is advantage in less cross chatter so I think its also a good thing. :D

    • @disaffected_malcontent
      @disaffected_malcontent 2 місяці тому

      thanks for your insight!

  • @Waddle_Dee_With_Internet
    @Waddle_Dee_With_Internet 3 роки тому +1613

    If this was BRIGHT SIDE, This video would be more than 10 minutes long.

    • @michaelbujaki2462
      @michaelbujaki2462 3 роки тому +197

      If this was Bright Side, I wouldn't believe any of it.

    • @amogus8798
      @amogus8798 3 роки тому +19

      So true

    • @matteotivan3414
      @matteotivan3414 3 роки тому +29

      But what if an invisible shell hit the aft island? Would definitely be in the bright side video

    • @ExploringWithin
      @ExploringWithin 3 роки тому +17

      Yeah Bright Side drag stuff out so much.

    • @blutact9931
      @blutact9931 3 роки тому +23

      I swear bright side only drag out videos to 10 minutes because the required length to make money off a video is 10 minutes

  • @mane42
    @mane42 3 роки тому +129

    We're getting closer and closer to a Venator Class Star Destroyer with every carrier design.

    • @Frizzleman
      @Frizzleman 2 роки тому +11

      And we will have peace.

    • @brandonmin6204
      @brandonmin6204 2 роки тому +3

      @@Frizzleman Peace in our new empire.

    • @noahd.4551
      @noahd.4551 Рік тому +3

      @@brandonmin6204 Peace and security*

    • @wiredforstereo
      @wiredforstereo Рік тому

      How do you think we get to be a galaxy wide fascist dictatorship anyway?

  • @dre1456
    @dre1456 3 роки тому +197

    Stan Lee at 3:46. This guy just never stops with cameos in cool stuff 😎

  • @Cdr_Mansfield_Cumming
    @Cdr_Mansfield_Cumming 3 роки тому +921

    I can honestly say that I believe the twin island option is a stroke of genius idea. The fact that there's redundancy will ensure the command of operations continues should the forward one get hit

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  3 роки тому +97

      sometimes you just have to try something different! it does looks great in our view

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  3 роки тому +24

      Thank you for your nice comment :-)

    • @largol33t1
      @largol33t1 3 роки тому +1

      What if the enemy comes around to fire ANOTHER missile after destroying the first tower?

    • @petersellers9219
      @petersellers9219 3 роки тому +11

      @@largol33t1 that's when you bring out the next carrier!

    • @wiryantirta
      @wiryantirta 3 роки тому +5

      I mean single island carriers have that redundancy in the form of a CIC bunker deep within the ship.
      This could be a more space maximizing effort to give the air ops/traffic tower more space. I mean look at it. Its a full grown civilian airport control tower with massive windows and big screens compared to air control section of many carriers’ towers

  • @sasmitadas4866
    @sasmitadas4866 3 роки тому +313

    HMS Prince of Wales was commissioned on 10 December 2019. The ship's commissioning date maked the 78th anniversary of the sinking of her predecessor which was lost in action along with HMS Repulse in 1941

    • @antnewbon2673
      @antnewbon2673 3 роки тому +4

      I really enjoyed the ships commissioning. It was a grate event. And much champers was drank.

    • @theT3901
      @theT3901 3 роки тому +4

      I remember the original prince of whales which ran away from the bismarck and prince Eugen after her ally hood was well blown apart in battle

    • @BlazeLeiton
      @BlazeLeiton 3 роки тому +2

      _Cries in "Neratte...POM!"_

    • @TayebMC
      @TayebMC 3 роки тому +8

      @@theT3901 You mean the one who's sister ship sunk the Bismarck, and the other sister that sunk the Scharnhorst?

    • @breadbug6101
      @breadbug6101 3 роки тому

      @@TayebMC The Nelson Class Battleships?

  • @DrummerJacob
    @DrummerJacob 3 роки тому +215

    I'll keep this in mind when I make my first Aircraft Carrier purchase.
    EDIT: I was able to secure my very first 333m fleet carrier. Shes definitely a fixer upper and I'll need to obtain my own fleet first before I can go carrying it around the 7 seas, but you gotta start somewhere.

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 3 роки тому +7

      F*ck it, I'm going three islands!

    • @Swix
      @Swix 3 роки тому +3

      Let's make that 4

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 3 роки тому +3

      One island is party island.

    • @johnlacey7126
      @johnlacey7126 3 роки тому +3

      Hammerite isn`t bad until you can afford the real paint.

    • @Frizzleman
      @Frizzleman 2 роки тому +1

      If you need crew I’ll cook food or whatever

  • @mrpetrock8624
    @mrpetrock8624 3 роки тому +164

    The Queen Elizabeth class looks
    Frigging Awsome..

  • @ryanm.191
    @ryanm.191 3 роки тому +1962

    Remember, if it isn’t obvious or confusing, it isn’t British

    • @MegaPeedee
      @MegaPeedee 3 роки тому +27

      Don't know about that. British cars, and the Centurion tank, are a bastard to work on … or they were back in the day.

    • @Fosi94
      @Fosi94 3 роки тому +4

      Australian my friend.

    • @_puppet_man7876
      @_puppet_man7876 3 роки тому +5

      Or Canadian, Australian.

    • @neozone_hyrax.raw.
      @neozone_hyrax.raw. 3 роки тому +23

      @@MegaPeedee in britain we dont have british cars ourselves, we have cars from different countries, so no wonder they are complicated

    • @mizzyroro
      @mizzyroro 3 роки тому +8

      Like the oil filter of a Land Rover Freeland 2.

  • @TrueNorth1970
    @TrueNorth1970 3 роки тому +688

    Looks cool. almost "Futuristic" even. And the redundancy factor is a hands down winner.

    • @TimOsman88
      @TimOsman88 3 роки тому +27

      they just riped off the venator class

    • @TrueNorth1970
      @TrueNorth1970 3 роки тому +8

      @@TimOsman88 ah Star Wars ye :D :D

    • @noahmoss6634
      @noahmoss6634 3 роки тому +3

      Tells the enemy where to aim ?! 😂

    • @barrackobamar
      @barrackobamar 3 роки тому +2

      The ramp makes it look old

    • @elias_xp95
      @elias_xp95 3 роки тому +9

      @@noahmoss6634 Where do you aim? Could it be for the hunk of floating metal? Is this supposed to be a secret?

  • @ronallen8828
    @ronallen8828 3 роки тому +41

    Well, string a clothes line between them and you can get a whole load of laundry dried

  • @taiwandxt6493
    @taiwandxt6493 Рік тому +6

    If we are going based purely off of looks alone, I think the Twin Island design looks awesome and far superior compared to most other carrier island designs. It looks cleaner and makes the ship look more like an airport at sea than ever before.

  • @arc7756
    @arc7756 3 роки тому +796

    Fun fact: that’s how the venator class star destroyers functioned, with their two command bridges. One for flight control and the other for ship control.

    • @djt7447
      @djt7447 3 роки тому +118

      I like where this is going

    • @hardnrg8000
      @hardnrg8000 3 роки тому +23

      @@djt7447 Giggity, giggity, giggedy!

    • @awhahoo
      @awhahoo 3 роки тому +18

      However, the republic used Venator only fleet for many battles.

    • @awhahoo
      @awhahoo 3 роки тому +6

      @Garrett Canavan Yeah. I know some people have designed battle-carriers (as I call them). If you look up iowa class battleship on google images and scroll down a bit you may see what I'm talking about.

    • @thebelgianbeast9949
      @thebelgianbeast9949 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly what I was thinking!

  • @timandshannon03
    @timandshannon03 3 роки тому +98

    Being American, and being used to see single island carriers, I think the engineering, and battle survivability, and use of the elevator between the two islands in a genius move. British Carriers don't have the real estate of American Carriers with their off center, slanted decks. So it's a brilliant solution to a legitimate problem. Sometimes less is more.

    • @tesstickle7267
      @tesstickle7267 3 роки тому +4

      They were going to have two islands and a different deck layout but that never progressed, but i guess it's possible in the future to be modified and things installed if necessary. These are certainly some big ships, there's footage of this one with a nimitz ,very similar in size..royal navy carriers seem taller though

    • @jacquesblaque7728
      @jacquesblaque7728 3 роки тому +3

      US and UK carriers operate very different aircraft, which are launched and recovered at very different airspeed. Didja notice the "ski-jump" ramp for take-off on the QE? None on US CVs.

    • @N330AA
      @N330AA 3 роки тому +2

      Well it's been built to be retrofittable to handle CATOBAR in the future if deemed necessary - expensive though.

    • @georgethompson1460
      @georgethompson1460 3 роки тому

      @@N330AA we just have to wait for the chinese to shave off the ramp for use so we can install the catobar as a retrofit.

    • @N330AA
      @N330AA 3 роки тому

      @@georgethompson1460Why not a catapult that leads to a ramp? haha

  • @YourFriendKrea
    @YourFriendKrea 3 роки тому +56

    It’s a sea going venator star destroyer... I’m proud of my navy!

    • @qasimmir7117
      @qasimmir7117 3 роки тому +3

      The best star destroyer in all.👌🏼

  • @AgentLynch616
    @AgentLynch616 Рік тому +16

    I think the design is awesome. Brits really do think about every situation and design to accommodate redundancies into everything they build. I believe in years to come designs will change with the introduction of UAV’s. We will see a totally autonomous carrier in the future

  • @brianherrin4287
    @brianherrin4287 3 роки тому +146

    Being a former U.S. aviation sailor I have to say I am impressed I love the idea and it looks great. I would love to see one up close.

    • @YouTubestolemylife
      @YouTubestolemylife 3 роки тому +9

      I saw the Prince of wales it’s beautiful mean looking and spacious inside it just needed a pool on the top and id live there

    • @sunnyjim1355
      @sunnyjim1355 3 роки тому +4

      "I would love to see one up close." Be carful what you wish for... you might just get it. 😈

    • @biasseddig9665
      @biasseddig9665 Рік тому +2

      @@UA-camstolemylife used to see it every other day. Pretty ship tho it’s buggered of somewhere I think

    • @jknott1003
      @jknott1003 Рік тому

      ​@@sunnyjim1355 Don't think so. We beat the tar out of the Jolly Jack Tars and Red Skirts, kicked them out and sent them home like little girls. So nope.

    • @mickshrimpton1
      @mickshrimpton1 7 місяців тому

      Sail in out out of Portsmouth on a Brittany Ferry to France and you'll sometimes see both very up close indeed!

  • @lord_scrubington
    @lord_scrubington 3 роки тому +147

    3:45
    The green guy with the moustache has to be the coolest dude to ever live

    • @warpartyattheoutpost4987
      @warpartyattheoutpost4987 3 роки тому +10

      There seriously should be an action figure of that green dude with the 'stache.

    • @TGentong
      @TGentong 3 роки тому +6

      He Looks like hickok45, lol

    • @litamtondy
      @litamtondy 3 роки тому +3

      That's Giorgio Moroder taking a break from music.

    • @johanneswei4456
      @johanneswei4456 3 роки тому +1

      That's Stan Lee btw

  • @prodigy750
    @prodigy750 3 роки тому +3

    It grew on me as the video went on, I think I actually like the way it looks and the new options it opens the ship too

  • @Jim-de4dj
    @Jim-de4dj 3 роки тому +4

    Great memories of having served on the Audacious class aircraft carrier HMS Eagle RO5 1971 - 1972. 17th birthday out in the South China Sea on our 9 month far East cruise.

  • @martsmarts
    @martsmarts 3 роки тому +1823

    Pilot: “permission to buzz between the towers”
    With all the likes... Pilot: “this looks like a good idea”

    • @45641560456405640563
      @45641560456405640563 3 роки тому +100

      Negative the pattern is full.

    • @swahareddy8822
      @swahareddy8822 3 роки тому +10

      Best comment

    • @flyboyy9829
      @flyboyy9829 3 роки тому +8

      I guarantee that it's probably been asked already! 😂 Brilliant

    • @boblinda1738
      @boblinda1738 3 роки тому +2

      Now that would be exciting!

    • @lord_scrubington
      @lord_scrubington 3 роки тому +1

      Pretty sure every pilot who operates on these carriers has to say that at some point XD

  • @71Wraith
    @71Wraith 3 роки тому +513

    The Royal Navy was the 1st Navy to use aircraft carriers and now they are 1st to use the twin island design. Well done to Britain for naval inovation

    • @davideades9588
      @davideades9588 3 роки тому +92

      And don’t forget we pioneered angled and armoured flight decks, steam catapults, deck landing mirrors and much else besides.

    • @kw8757
      @kw8757 3 роки тому +73

      @@davideades9588 Not to mention the Harrier jump jet, key in securing victory in the falklands.

    • @petersellers9219
      @petersellers9219 3 роки тому +19

      And we grow the best tea in the world... Oh hang on

    • @bobhodgson3113
      @bobhodgson3113 3 роки тому +19

      @@kw8757 Would have been better if we had kept the carrier based Buccaneers though, instead of relegating them to RAF airfields. They would flown completely below the Argentinian radar and utterly destroyed Port Stanley runway with ease.

    • @B-A-L
      @B-A-L 3 роки тому +5

      @@bobhodgson3113 There was no need to utterly destroy the runway. If we had wanted to the Black Buck Vulcan would have flown down the length of it and dropped all its bombs on it instead of dropping them across it.

  • @prabhakarkmv4135
    @prabhakarkmv4135 3 роки тому

    Useful video.Thanks for clarifying about two islands.

  • @JasonHoningford
    @JasonHoningford 3 роки тому +16

    Does the bridge crew ever swap islands before the captain wakes up, just for fun?

  • @revparisking
    @revparisking 3 роки тому +72

    I actually like it but mainly for the flight controls visibility. I spent 5 years on the USS Kitty Hawk and flight deck line of sight was always something that would set the air boss off in a heartbeat. Even if we werent doing flight ops. If you were on the flying bridge, you stayed out of air boss's line of sight with the flight deck.

    • @mammutMK2
      @mammutMK2 3 роки тому +7

      Intresting fact is why the US never came on the idea to add a "half tower" to the island

    • @Horizon301.
      @Horizon301. 3 роки тому +1

      @@mammutMK2 I bet the us officials praise it after seeing it in action when onboard. I wonder if they would ever do it

    • @TheVinchan
      @TheVinchan 3 роки тому

      when you were at the kitty hawk, did you happen to be in japan?

    • @markdavis9510
      @markdavis9510 3 роки тому +2

      1996 - 2000 NAF Atsugi Airman thinks one island is more optimal than 2. RIP Indy and Kitty Hawk.

    • @revparisking
      @revparisking 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheVinchan no, I left her while in the gulf during desert storm and stayed there for a few more months.

  • @vosje7691
    @vosje7691 3 роки тому +704

    It looks amazing, the Royal Navy is ready for the 21st century it seems, well done. Grts from Belgium

    • @JrTr_03
      @JrTr_03 3 роки тому +32

      Ready for the 21st century. With windows XP....

    • @flashbeaster
      @flashbeaster 3 роки тому +4

      Thank you !

    • @steverogers9688
      @steverogers9688 3 роки тому +27

      @@JrTr_03 It's old, but, it's very stable. That stability is more important than people realise

    • @TheMarineGamerIGGHQ
      @TheMarineGamerIGGHQ 3 роки тому +15

      @@JrTr_03 it's used in a lot more modern shit than you realise. The US still uses it

    • @howpaul7553
      @howpaul7553 3 роки тому +4

      A diesel carrier in a world of nuclear ships

  • @jesus9065
    @jesus9065 2 роки тому +1

    Everyone have a different opinion, but this is the best aircraft carrier design I never saw, It's beautiful. Good job Brits🇩🇪🇬🇧. And for the man of the channel, nice work. * Proceeding to subscribe *

  • @malcolmabram2957
    @malcolmabram2957 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this, I will test sail the twin island design, when I next buy a carrier.

  • @larryjeram-croft1692
    @larryjeram-croft1692 3 роки тому +62

    You are sort of right about the turbulence issue. However, it was not part of the original concept, it was only when windflow tests were done on large scale models that it was discovered that the turbulence from the front island mixed in with that from the rear one and they almost cancelled each other out. Many carriers have a major problem with downward trubulence just behind the ship (not on the flight deck as you say) - just where you really don't want it when approaching from astern. These ships don't have this problem. In fact when going back to a one island design was considered this became one of the overriding factors not to do so.

    • @LootGoblin4510
      @LootGoblin4510 3 роки тому +3

      A "bonus" feature it seems..

    • @jamessveinsson6006
      @jamessveinsson6006 3 роки тому +3

      The ski jump concept sucks

    • @robertcook2572
      @robertcook2572 3 роки тому +1

      @@jamessveinsson6006 Well, the aeroplanes would have a greatly reduced payload/range without it!

    • @tams805
      @tams805 3 роки тому +1

      @@jamessveinsson6006 And catapults suck when they stop working. Not to mention arrestor wires being very dangerous.

    • @aquillandscroll6428
      @aquillandscroll6428 3 роки тому

      @@jamessveinsson6006 faster sortie rate than catapults.

  • @pioneer4279
    @pioneer4279 3 роки тому +41

    If this was the infographics show, It would digress into stuff about the USS Gerald R Ford in like 2 seconds

  • @anubratachakraborty1370
    @anubratachakraborty1370 3 роки тому +1

    It looks very interesting and cool!

  • @pekrulz1
    @pekrulz1 3 роки тому +4

    I love this look. It is way better looking than a single long tower.

  • @darrenstewart226
    @darrenstewart226 3 роки тому +12

    I worked on these on the clyde ,Beautiful well crafted machines built with love and pride.

  • @ForburyLion
    @ForburyLion 3 роки тому +932

    "Does it look ugly" - Aesthetics are not a factor when it comes to war machines.

    • @hazimyamaha176
      @hazimyamaha176 3 роки тому +35

      Look is not important but function is important

    • @alexravex4575
      @alexravex4575 3 роки тому +137

      *Laughs in WW2 German Uniforms and Tanks

    • @jonervine
      @jonervine 3 роки тому +57

      It looks fine. It’s got a unique identity too which is great for PR

    • @StrelitziaLiveries
      @StrelitziaLiveries 3 роки тому +18

      True. But it is also good when function yields aesthetic beauty

    • @ItzWhiz_
      @ItzWhiz_ 3 роки тому +10

      Whoever said it looks ugly doesn’t have able eyes

  • @Senkino5o
    @Senkino5o 2 роки тому

    I just finished as part of a team building the exhaust on a RAN ship, 4 Wartsila diesel generators.
    There's a lot to consider in the exhaust for a ship which has an air wing, on this ship the exhaust came out the rear above the stern door. What this meant was that there was an accumulation of hot air to astern of the ship, hot air being less dense caused danger in landing helicopters on the flight deck.
    Naval exhausts are made of stainless pipe section with flexible stainless bellows which have a concertina shape to handle thermal expansion and vibration/flexing of the ship. They can have a water jacket or just have lagging (wet or dry exhaust).

  • @paulvail2850
    @paulvail2850 2 роки тому

    I am fascinated by this. It is definately thinking outside the box. I love to watch this, but I would love to be on board. They definately learned from the past.

  • @ScienceChap
    @ScienceChap 3 роки тому +56

    These ships are essentially 4 ships, sealed units, working in close proximity! Each diesel generator has a complete set of controls, fuel supply, cooling systems etc. independent of all the others. Each produces sufficient electrical power for one tractor motor. All 4 together produce all the ship's hotel service power and a surplus for each tractor motor. On top of this are two widely separated gas turbine engines for a speed boost to give the strategic speed required to move to trouble spots. These are extremely innovative ships.

    • @raywhitehead730
      @raywhitehead730 3 роки тому +4

      On my last USN cruise 1989 our ship operated two jet engines, essentially the same ones as on a DC 10. For six months, they were Never ever shut down. They would power the ship from full stop to 90% of full speed in just about 7 minutes. And it took another 5 minutes to achieve full speed.

    • @raywhitehead730
      @raywhitehead730 3 роки тому

      They were efficient.

    • @raywhitehead730
      @raywhitehead730 3 роки тому +1

      @AKUJIRULE No, it had separate electricity generator s also, if the Mane engines shut down.Ok to good range at 20knots. Point is you got nearly immediate power for speed, and the engines were robust, didn't break much. well armed. That is the Spurance class, all retired now. US Navy likes to keep fuel bunkers filled all the time. Great maneuverability. Good electronics suits. Lot off dependable bang for the buck.

  • @fwqkaw
    @fwqkaw 3 роки тому +69

    “To lose one island, Mr. Worthing, may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness.”

  • @damanicgrinam8053
    @damanicgrinam8053 3 роки тому +1

    What a good work

  • @saifullahrahman
    @saifullahrahman 3 роки тому

    Thanks a lot! I was not able to decide which one to buy :)

  • @kylematlock7499
    @kylematlock7499 3 роки тому +45

    I'm American and I actually really like this design, visually and functionally.

  • @simontan2022
    @simontan2022 3 роки тому +49

    Brits are islanders so they gotta have islandy thought. It looks bloody majestically stunning , supposedly second to none , in my opinion.

  • @marshalmontez6795
    @marshalmontez6795 2 роки тому +1

    Beautiful and awesome aircraft carrier 👍

  • @supersolidsnake641
    @supersolidsnake641 3 роки тому

    Amazing piece of kit

  • @anirbanmandal3123
    @anirbanmandal3123 3 роки тому +169

    From my views it looks cool and usability is more important than looks in these cases

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  3 роки тому +20

      We agree. Our comment about the “look” was a bit of a joke, but during our research we found out that some had actually criticized the design because of the the way it looks.

    • @anirbanmandal3123
      @anirbanmandal3123 3 роки тому +3

      @@NotWhatYouThink btw your videos are really good. The best part of it these are concise than other videos on these types of topic

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  3 роки тому +8

      We appreciate the feedback.
      We plan to issue short and long video on these topics. The short ones are quick and to the point, and the long ones would cover the topics in more detail. Stay tuned!

    • @kw8757
      @kw8757 3 роки тому +1

      @@NotWhatYouThink HAHAHA, I nearly spat my tea out when you said does she look ugly, looks are not even on the list of priorities when capability and effectiveness are all important.

    • @kw8757
      @kw8757 3 роки тому +1

      @@zeromii3234 Your comment makes no sense, I think you need to go back to primary school and learn to write effectively, you utter gobshite.

  • @coneinggaming6285
    @coneinggaming6285 3 роки тому +393

    Well duh, it’s British if there was a shortage of islands they wouldn’t feel like they were at home lol

    • @BBoySnakeDogG
      @BBoySnakeDogG 3 роки тому +20

      I wonder if the two islands hate each other, then it would be proper British. Maybe they have football matches on the flight deck and it all kicks off.

    • @ES_Spotter
      @ES_Spotter 3 роки тому +1

      @@BBoySnakeDogG oh another Britain hater

    • @tsaitaj
      @tsaitaj 3 роки тому

      @@ES_Spotter hmmm

    • @kohlshu8979
      @kohlshu8979 3 роки тому +1

      @@ES_Spotter * Bri Ish hater

    • @ianhogben3472
      @ianhogben3472 3 роки тому +3

      @@ES_Spotter not a hater honest that's how it is all four major nationalitys hate one another

  • @bjjace1
    @bjjace1 Місяць тому

    It is such a beautiful ship. The UK knocked it out of the park with the design. Well done

  • @njohnson3331
    @njohnson3331 3 роки тому

    I like the arrivals and departures screens, so you know when your flight is in.

  • @ricardopescador4971
    @ricardopescador4971 3 роки тому +11

    Magnificent solution! Even though I'm not British, I feel proud of your design. Kind of feels like when you designed the Spitfire!

    • @elikorn8777
      @elikorn8777 3 роки тому

      British design is top notch. Most Nato designs are designed in UK. Wired in Israel and coded in the Netherlands. The high precision parts are made in the UK. Shipped to Germany for tooling and fitting and then returned to the UK for final completion. Source I have an uncle in the army who works on the logistics of protecting all the tanks and fighter parts as they are shipped around the world to be finished off 10 miles away from where they get started. (Most aircraft spend more time being flown from factory to factory than on combat operations)

    • @davescustomairsoftltd7142
      @davescustomairsoftltd7142 3 роки тому

      Aircraft carriers, and most modern aircraft carrier technologies are British Inventions. We industrialised the world.

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 3 роки тому

      @@elikorn8777 Both carriers were assembled entirely in the UK. Obviously we bought some components overseas, but they all came to the UK to be attached.

  • @Radictor44
    @Radictor44 3 роки тому +80

    Why two islands? One to make the tea ofcourse!

    • @Icanhasautomaticcheeseburger
      @Icanhasautomaticcheeseburger 3 роки тому +5

      Nah, just one to give to China when the lease runs out...

    • @flyboyy9829
      @flyboyy9829 3 роки тому +1

      @@Icanhasautomaticcheeseburger bruh 😂😂

    • @chumleyk
      @chumleyk 3 роки тому

      One for tea, the other for your momma. The lads love stirring both.

    • @abeam91
      @abeam91 3 роки тому

      one for tea, and the other for jaffa cake. yeahhh

    • @stevecarter8810
      @stevecarter8810 3 роки тому

      So that if there's no war they can fight one another

  • @ticianoofficial
    @ticianoofficial 3 роки тому

    Looks amazing

  • @IllIlllI
    @IllIlllI 3 роки тому +53

    We should just build one big ship with like ten islands, they definitely wouldn’t sink that...

    • @mostevil1082
      @mostevil1082 3 роки тому +3

      Habakkuk? Make the island the ship.

    • @mrsniff3676
      @mrsniff3676 3 роки тому

      @@mostevil1082 yeah a ship island, your on to a winner there

    • @charlestonianbuilder344
      @charlestonianbuilder344 3 роки тому +1

      the british shoould work on the mainland first and solve their issues with scotland before jumpstarting the empire

    • @spaceskipster4412
      @spaceskipster4412 3 роки тому +4

      @@charlestonianbuilder344 we don't have issues with Scotland, they have issues with England. 💁🏼‍♂️ 😄

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 3 роки тому

      @@charlestonianbuilder344 You seem to be confused. Scotland is part of Great Britain, and it is also part of the United Kingdom

  • @nazigorfurher4403
    @nazigorfurher4403 3 роки тому +18

    This is not ugly! This is masterpiece and tbh i like this desgin more than usual air carft carrier.

  • @ghanvat
    @ghanvat 3 роки тому +184

    this is the first non-US carrier whose looks i really liked.

    • @iaaf_nw2367
      @iaaf_nw2367 3 роки тому +4

      My first one was the french one

    • @t.g.5256
      @t.g.5256 3 роки тому +4

      Charles de Gaulle (R91) looks really sexy

    • @iaaf_nw2367
      @iaaf_nw2367 3 роки тому +1

      @@t.g.5256 yes

    • @peterw5840
      @peterw5840 3 роки тому

      @@iaaf_nw2367 Chinese has a new better one coming this year. I am looking forward to see it.

    • @iaaf_nw2367
      @iaaf_nw2367 3 роки тому +1

      @@peterw5840 hopefully they dont use it to pressure my countries waters

  • @realitychallenged4488
    @realitychallenged4488 3 роки тому +77

    Two proton torpedoes into that vent shaft from one rebel pilot who stays on target is all it takes @ 0:46

    • @Duck_Duck_Goose789
      @Duck_Duck_Goose789 3 роки тому

      You mean space wizard?

    • @saab900classic6
      @saab900classic6 3 роки тому

      Not so far fetched imagine 2 small drones less than the 2 metres across dropping in...... game over on the propulsion front

    • @stivaoblonskystan
      @stivaoblonskystan 3 роки тому

      @@saab900classic6 Thats actually a really interesting idea... tiny drones wouldn't be hit by AA fire and could easily mess up an exhaust pipe.

  • @Deanwalsh1
    @Deanwalsh1 3 роки тому +3

    I'll consider the options when buying one

  • @2creamy4you15
    @2creamy4you15 3 роки тому +213

    Is the queen Elizabeth class carriers the closest thing we’re got to a Venator class star destroyer

    • @ascelot
      @ascelot 3 роки тому +9

      And that is a cool looking vessel.

    • @ms_publisher7143
      @ms_publisher7143 3 роки тому +17

      Yeah with the twin bridges didn't even think of that

    • @roryknight4238
      @roryknight4238 3 роки тому +6

      Yes a fellow Star Wars fan!

    • @Liquid278
      @Liquid278 3 роки тому +6

      We have a female Palpatine too 🤣🤣

    • @VOGS597
      @VOGS597 3 роки тому +1

      i think the same

  • @strontiumstargazer3124
    @strontiumstargazer3124 3 роки тому +36

    The air turbulence software on the planes had to be rewritten for two islands. Heard this from a BAE design engineer working on this project.
    Interesting video.

  • @hakapik683
    @hakapik683 3 роки тому

    Great looking ship. 2 islands seems more a positive thing than negative. Lots of deck space!

  • @charlesberrisford5478
    @charlesberrisford5478 3 роки тому +1

    The Queen Eliz.. looks fantastic..

  • @BatMan-xr8gg
    @BatMan-xr8gg 3 роки тому +304

    Who cares if it is ugly, as long as it is effective. Hopefully we don't have to have a war to find out.

    • @AbleOneOne
      @AbleOneOne 3 роки тому +5

      >As long as it is effective
      Spoiler: it isn't

    • @simonshotter8960
      @simonshotter8960 3 роки тому +19

      @@AbleOneOne how so

    • @Kyle-gw6qp
      @Kyle-gw6qp 3 роки тому +17

      @@AbleOneOne how do you know? It might be so great that all new aircraft carriers the world over have two islands from now. Only time will tell.

    • @podnolej7784
      @podnolej7784 3 роки тому +4

      I expect more conflict in the next 4 years , just wait and see.

    • @BatMan-xr8gg
      @BatMan-xr8gg 3 роки тому +4

      @@podnolej7784 Would not surprise me in the slightest due to the political situations around the world.

  • @nmebullz1131
    @nmebullz1131 3 роки тому +35

    I worked on these in BAE systems on the Clyde in Glasgow , the aircraft carriers and the type 45 destroyers in the fleet

    • @jamescpalmer
      @jamescpalmer 3 роки тому +3

      Nice :) Looks like you boys did a great job, me and the missus wanna visit the carriers in Portsmouth when lockdown 3: return to the flat is over.

    • @PhilbyFavourites
      @PhilbyFavourites 3 роки тому +2

      @@jamescpalmer I can see them both from the bedroom window and have been fortunate enough to take a boat out to be alongside when they have come in and out of the harbour.
      They are truly impressive up close, makes me proud to be a local. If and when you visit here’s the tourist boat details www.portsmouth-boat-trips.co.uk
      👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤓🤓🤓

  • @MonkeyJedi99
    @MonkeyJedi99 3 роки тому +1

    I like some features that didn't get much discussion, like the huge information display on the Flyco island, and the fact that there is a ski-jump for fixed wing takeoff.
    Though, I would hate to be the rating assigned to hand-carry orders between islands in an intercom failure...

  • @andrewdock7288
    @andrewdock7288 2 роки тому +1

    Very elegant looking ship twin Islands make it look very modern.

  • @commercio3564
    @commercio3564 3 роки тому +517

    "Does it look ugly?"
    No, no it doesn't.

    • @natesmodelsdoodles5403
      @natesmodelsdoodles5403 3 роки тому +11

      Ah, Somebody I agree with.

    • @TriumphT140
      @TriumphT140 3 роки тому +25

      and even if it did - who cares? This is Function Over Form (which always looks better anyway)

    • @captainmacmellon2333
      @captainmacmellon2333 3 роки тому

      @@TriumphT140 Yo i’m pretty sure its a joke

    • @FLAMEalan
      @FLAMEalan 3 роки тому

      Looks a lot better than just one Long Island. Have you seen the Indian one 😂 That is the definition of ugly

    • @siphotheguy1870
      @siphotheguy1870 3 роки тому

      Oh come on! It does look a bit like yaw mamma!

  • @gorway7
    @gorway7 3 роки тому +7

    The twin island design I believe is a good idea especially for survivability- both functions can be carried out from either tower if one is compromised. Where we really cocked up, I think is the ski ramp chosen over cat-n-trap. Just look at the range of aircraft supported on American carriers, everything from awac, to transporters. That makes them infinitely more versatile in their mission roll. We are stuck with the still awaited compliment of F35s and helicopters. Flying out crew or supplies, dropping off combat personnel, thats all limited to what you can fit - and the range of helicopters on this carrier.

  • @furiousfife7592
    @furiousfife7592 2 роки тому

    Was a pleasure to watch it get built while i was at school and to eventually be one of its first nco crew members.

  • @PeachDragon_
    @PeachDragon_ 3 роки тому +1

    It's basically a straight upgrade and it looks cool as hell, i hope this design gets adopted worldwide

  • @gabrielkinzel3389
    @gabrielkinzel3389 3 роки тому +27

    British: *makes carrier with an island *
    Also British: *There is another*

  • @rickbarrington
    @rickbarrington 3 роки тому +425

    Do British carriers sail on the left side of ocean ways? 😂

    • @petecatlow1132
      @petecatlow1132 3 роки тому +65

      All shipping sails on the left

    • @stevecarter8810
      @stevecarter8810 3 роки тому +31

      Everybody does. civilized, like.

    • @tesstickle7267
      @tesstickle7267 3 роки тому +47

      Fuck, bet you regret that comment lol

    • @kitakita545
      @kitakita545 3 роки тому +5

      @@tesstickle7267for good reason too!

    • @kitakita545
      @kitakita545 3 роки тому +10

      At least it's not a damned tea joke...

  • @kevken3293
    @kevken3293 3 роки тому +35

    Actually I think it looks super cool, well done Brits, always ahead in carrier design.

  • @fancymercenary7213
    @fancymercenary7213 2 роки тому

    Lots of good perks it does look beautiful and also they can replace each other so I say it's worth it

  • @josephdestaubin7426
    @josephdestaubin7426 3 роки тому +17

    In America we do redundancy with 20 aircraft carriers, ten of which are super carriers. Heading said that I can honestly say that none of our carriers are quite as slick and attractive as the Queen Elizabeth. Well done GB. Hers is a brilliant well thought out design.

    • @levisguy53
      @levisguy53 Рік тому +1

      da FUQ you talking about? that design is uglier than jo mama!

  • @lineboss58
    @lineboss58 3 роки тому +34

    Prior to the island on a carrier such ships were called flat tops, the British were the first to invented the island structure. As Britain has led the world in ship design for centuries, it is no great surprise that they should be the first with the twin island.

    • @shelbyseelbach9568
      @shelbyseelbach9568 3 роки тому +2

      carriers are still referred to as flat tops.

    • @paulfleming1612
      @paulfleming1612 3 роки тому

      @Michael Pezzullo an urban myth, nobody said it was unsinkable

    • @stevek8829
      @stevek8829 3 роки тому

      The colonists had first steamboat line, first ironclad, first nuclear warship, first nuclear cargo ship and first missiles fired from undersea. Now, your turn.

    • @americanmade4791
      @americanmade4791 3 роки тому

      The physical features that make current U.S. aircraft carriers instantly recognizable are British inventions.

    • @PhilbyFavourites
      @PhilbyFavourites 3 роки тому

      @@stevek8829 them there colonists are making a pretty shitty job at democracy at the moment aren’t they......

  • @williamt.little1972
    @williamt.little1972 3 роки тому

    Thoughtful and informative. I think it looks fine. And after the RN gets used to this arrangement, they will wonder how anyone would do it differently.

  • @grahamwickens7049
    @grahamwickens7049 3 роки тому +22

    Watch the queen Elizabeth arrive into Portsmouth Harbour yesterday, I think she looks great, makes me so proud to be British.

  • @rdtim-bx1nq
    @rdtim-bx1nq 3 роки тому +199

    "The engines must be directly below the exhaust."
    PLA" Write that down! Write that down!!!

    • @Egilhelmson
      @Egilhelmson 3 роки тому +1

      When did nuclear reactors need an exhaust? Oh, it is parallel to the Oriskany, not any commissioned carrier. Just not sunk as a reef, yet.

    • @Nick-nr6wd
      @Nick-nr6wd 3 роки тому +18

      @@Egilhelmson the carrier is not nuclear powered.

    • @davidjones332
      @davidjones332 3 роки тому +16

      @@Egilhelmson Modern warships are designed so that the engines can be removed through the funnel trunking, especially gas turbines that are changed after a specified number of hours, so yes, they do need to be directly below the exhaust.

    • @majesticflyingbrick
      @majesticflyingbrick 3 роки тому +3

      PLA's third carrier is already more advanced than the Queen Elizabeth

    • @RoulicisThe
      @RoulicisThe 3 роки тому +7

      @@Egilhelmson And nuclear reactor do need an exhaust anyway, just not for fumes but water vapor

  • @englishcple
    @englishcple 3 роки тому +21

    it features new methods and advanced and original: ideas, something that we British are brilliant at !!

  • @Ilandria.
    @Ilandria. 3 роки тому

    I think it looks awesome, honestly!
    The military can have both form and function!

  • @turnerstanks2624
    @turnerstanks2624 3 роки тому +1

    I like the slow mo of the jet take off. I was looking at the slow speed of the plane and carrier and just saw a destined crash

  • @davidstewart2740
    @davidstewart2740 3 роки тому +149

    Whether it "looks ugly" is a silly irrelevance.

    • @Shadowdoc26
      @Shadowdoc26 3 роки тому +4

      Do you want it to survive a war or want it to look nice as it sinks? Most people prefer the former.

    • @MrSMLEWeeb
      @MrSMLEWeeb 3 роки тому +1

      @@Shadowdoc26 as if you'd survive a war.

    • @nabara6949
      @nabara6949 3 роки тому +2

      I mean, at least at the moment, major nations not involved in any war directly. Having a good looking equipments don't hurt much. But yeah function over form any day of the week.

    • @Shadowdoc26
      @Shadowdoc26 3 роки тому +3

      @@MrSMLEWeeb I was 68W in the US army. Combat Medic.

    • @Shadowdoc26
      @Shadowdoc26 3 роки тому

      @Nema više muslimanskih dildoa noice. I was a PFC myself. After I got out, I went to medical school, became a full doc. I actually live in the UK now cause my wife is British, but amen to that. 🇺🇸🇬🇧

  • @JamesLaserpimpWalsh
    @JamesLaserpimpWalsh 3 роки тому +446

    Look ugly? Aircraft carriers all fell out the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down as it is. Function outweighs form with these things.

    • @Frang14998
      @Frang14998 3 роки тому +53

      Aircraft carriers look fucking awesome. Especially the U.S. carriers. I just dislike the ramp.

    • @sibidinakaran4757
      @sibidinakaran4757 3 роки тому +43

      I'd have to disagree. I think carriers look aesthetic as hell, but I still have to agree with function over form.

    • @DaMickLNP
      @DaMickLNP 3 роки тому +17

      Not every ship can be Scharnhorst...

    • @ablemagawitch
      @ablemagawitch 3 роки тому +13

      How do make an aircraft carrier not look as ugly?
      Land helicopters on it that are uglier

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 3 роки тому

      Like nuclear weapons.

  • @AhsokaTanoTheWhite
    @AhsokaTanoTheWhite 3 роки тому

    Love the channel, and I am pleased that you didn't say the line, "Not what you think" in this episode, it starts to make me cringe now.
    Anyway, I like the redundancies the twin engine room, twin control room, provides, most of the people who'd talk to each other from flyco and ship control would be communicating via headsets anyway, so having them physically seperated, is hardly a drawback in my eyes.

  • @gamingmetnoel1900
    @gamingmetnoel1900 3 роки тому

    Looks pretty neat, plus you can use the rear island to park better!

  • @jellythejellyfish7035
    @jellythejellyfish7035 3 роки тому +19

    Because they saw star wars the clone wars and were like "Wow, those Venator class look so cool"

    • @jamescooper7878
      @jamescooper7878 3 роки тому +4

      well it did give the redundancy.. as one of the in early cone wars season got the flight control tower destoryed.

  • @sermawco645
    @sermawco645 3 роки тому +42

    Ahhh yes, the Venator-class star drstroyer

  • @tyrael28
    @tyrael28 2 роки тому +1

    Reminds me of the Venator class in Star Wars. Which has two seperate bridges for the same principle.

  • @thefounder1624
    @thefounder1624 3 роки тому

    WELL DONE LADS

  • @johnmutton799
    @johnmutton799 3 роки тому +5

    Awesome! Another great carrier for the Royal Navy!

  • @akpilot6676
    @akpilot6676 3 роки тому +62

    Fantastic idea/design! While the USA has some big aircraft carriers, we have the British to thank for the following:
    Angled flight deck
    Steam catapult
    Landing light system
    Well done, POMEs. ;-) (POME= Prisoners of Mother England.) I loved living in Market Harborough for 3 years. Love the place and the people.

    • @NJ-wb1cz
      @NJ-wb1cz 3 роки тому +2

      Carriers are fundamentally an invasion weapon
      Why would any peaceful country have one, let alone several?

    • @GraemeMurphy
      @GraemeMurphy 3 роки тому +7

      You missed off VTOL aircraft !

    • @EduardvanKleef
      @EduardvanKleef 3 роки тому

      So why is there no angled flight deck on this one?

    • @bencockburn4838
      @bencockburn4838 3 роки тому +5

      @@NJ-wb1cz That's a very strange take on warfare. Countries that are unable to hurt the attacker are usually attacked. Have a chat with the Ukraine about whether an aircraft carrier would have helped them to ward off Russian attention in the Crimea. If you have a bigger stick than the bully, the bully thinks twice about taking you on.

    • @bencockburn4838
      @bencockburn4838 3 роки тому +4

      @@EduardvanKleef Angled flight decks are for planes that are landing at speed. If the arrestor wire doesn't catch the landing plane, they need a safe exit strategy, which is basically to re-engage the engines and shoot off the side and come back around again. If they landed along the full length of the ship, the whole flight deck would need to be cleared to allow the emergency space for taking off again. This is why catapult-equipped carriers have their primary catapults at the bow of the ship, with angled flight deck towards the rear, so take off and landing can be conducted at the same time.
      F35Bs for the most part land vertically, so they don't need the same failed landing exit strategy. The Shipborne Rolling Vertical Landing procedure is the closest they get and is only needed for fully loaded (aka 'beast mode') and heavily fueled F35B planes returning to the ship when they are too heavy to land vertically. Even in this mode however, F35Bs can land in relatively short distances since their approach speed is much lower compared to conventional carrier aircraft and do not use arrestor wires to stop themselves. They also wouldn't have the airspeed to take off again if things went wrong so it is better for the QE class to allow them to roll to a gentle stop along the full length of the flight deck on those few occasions where it is needed.

  • @stevenuk
    @stevenuk 3 роки тому

    looks cool and functional.

  • @andy99ish
    @andy99ish 3 роки тому +8

    And in case Scotland separates they can still command their planes from their separate island.