I added the combo inputs for the combo at 11:56 in the subtitles, to see them simply click on the CC icon in the bottom right of the video, hope it helps ♥
Best Guide I've seen so far. Very informative with light hearted humor (this is a game). I had a Sage I never really used so I rerolled to Sorceress since I could cut initial investment by keeping the sub weapon I already have at TRI. I'm on console so no season rn and I pre created Dragon Lady 2 for the reward bonuses. I'll max Sorc while I wait.
may be a lil older of a video but it was such a big help in some aspects this content is super evergreen Awsome guide, please keep goin with sorc guides buddy we appreciate you.
having a guide for new stuff after not playing for 19 months is great, ive been liking using attack speed and accuracy on soul harvest a lot, getting 17% attack speed permanently cus of its 5 second cooldown is so busted for pve
Is this guide still relevant? I have just come back and all my skills are reset. Looks like heedun does not play anymore and he was my goto when I used to play.
@spiralianz the crystals are outdated for sure, i was here mainly for the new skill revamp uses and add9ns. But most of the class specific knowledge ohtside of gear recommendations in the vid are good still. I have my own way of doing things when it comes to combos, but what he shows should still definitely work well. Also, lightstones aren't covered here i dont think.
This is a great guide, but I have to be brutally honest: after the rework, Sorc feels like a much harder to play version of Kunoichi that gets similar results. I feel like I'm playing a piano concerto when I'm on my Sorc! Kuno feels more like gently strumming an acoustic guitar. And then there is my Awakened Witch, which, continuing the metaphor, is like putting on headphones and listening to music. Serious, I think my Witch uses 1/5th the APM of my Sorc.
I have pretty much quit grinding on sorc just keep her for pvp and tagged lahn to grind. I'm also on console though just got a monitor capable of 120 fps, but I hover around 80-100 most of the time.
Yo man. Sick guide. As 2018 vet I can approve 100% of this. You explained the class better than any one. Halfway the clip I was thinking of writing a comment that you should include in next video the +lmb for safe casting speed buff but it turned out I have more to learn. Not only you added it but also there is evasion cansel buff with . Cool stuff. We do learn with time. Will push your guide to all my friends sorcs and sorc wannabes. Peace.
Any generic tips for Succ player trying to learn awake? My biggest issue I feel like I spend too long in either stance and C swap feels clunky. edit: Also wanted to say love your approach with letting people find their own technique, playstyle, and combos, that's the beauty of Sorc is that you're not stuck just chaining together the same endless combo to be effective OR to have fun. And your editing on Peon's stuff lately has been top tier
Really like the combo on screen at +/- 8:00 just bit sad there isnt one 11:54 would have loved to also see it there. Visualizing the combo on screen looks so much more clearer to me. Also was thinking that you skipped over the black spirit rage locking and Skills locking (does anybody leaves evasion unlocked?) Ether way thanks for the guide!!!!
Fair enough! Maybe I got too fixated on the "learn your own combo" mentality there :D in case it helps the inputs are: ShiftLMB - F - ShiftF - ShiftX - ShiftZ - WF - C - SRMB - LMBRMB - LMB - ShiftF - ShiftQ
Watched just to see if there is anything i didn't know about (coming back from a really long break) but you really got me at the part when you talk about core grj wankers :D i fully agree grj is the 2nd last core i would ever use (not hard to guess #1 useless core xD)
Hi there, with that pve build without any accurazy crys. or Bhegs you are with arround 780 accuraz (calculating skill accu. and accu %hit rate from addons and skill) that means ur hit rate at monastery is about 70% only and for ash forest just a littl more not to mention the crypt that is about 17%, I dont know from where you got the pic in garmoth but the only way to hit 80-90% hit rate in those places is vipers, elkars, hooms x4, bhegs, ah'krads and the food, church, draught, addons and skill accu buffs. using accu build instead and lose 15 hiden AP is really worth for endgame pve as 13% more hit rate is much better than those 15 hidden ap. Just saying because I had that pve build with that accu some months ago until i have changed to the accu build im saying and my grinding speed and dmg output increassed as hell.
@@Heedun yep i did 9% skill and 12% from addons with 803 accu so littl higher than u in the video (795) plus that 9 and 12% with that build is a 83% hit rate at ash forest and monastery, a 73 at olun's and 25 at crypt, instead with accu/dr mix eva pve build is 853 accu everything goes up to 97% at monastery/ash, 87% for olun's and 38% at the crypt
@@diegosanz7605 I re-did the build to check again and the numbers on my build are looking good... Try to make sure you added all the proper stats cause on my end I'm getting 94% on Monastery without JIN Vipers, which is really really good for such a cheap build :D
I went back to using GRJ bon because my ping is ass BUT the swirling core is an amaaaaaaazing protected cc engage in group fights. Wings of the crow into swirling is almost instant, which lets you instagib people who think they're far enough away to be relatively safe, and the 360 degree float is amazing. Also works as a third low cd float catch alongside shadow eruption and ignition, letting you get off a lot more cc pressure in node war while you're iframing around. Howeverrr grim is still amazing as an aoe cc, and you can still cc people safely by using soul harvest and canceling it with swirling without the bon to cover the cc with SA. Overall, great bon to use if you feel like you're taking too much damage before you get grim off or if you want to be more disruptive in the enemies ball and can still easily kill without utilizing grim. Basically, do I want to get big kill feeds with grim, or do I want to give my team more consistent & oppressive cc pressure for them to capitalize on. Just hit 305ap so, for now I'm enjoying the damage from grim haha.
i found swirling core to be good because the float hits on the first hit and you can cancel the rest of the skill with an similar to shadow ignition so i can cancel ignition, eruption, swirl, & tbs
@@Heedun IMO its not needed. The point isn't adding SA its adding a float cancel since I can already cancel TBS and now with reworks cancel TBS directly into another essentially and if I'm smart on the timing I shouldn't get cc'd anyways but by adding another float cancel it opens up more doors for 1vXing. Just my thoughts on the new core.
Don't play anymore but this class only looks sicker now. Still the coolest class I've ever played. Hashashin looks cool now too though. Heedun, will the new ranked pvp queue be gear normalized or do we have details yet?
Great guide! I have two questions regarding the PvE combo: 1. Why do you use Swirling Darkness before Violation? Does the accuracy buff from Swirling Darkness outdamage the -20 magic DP from Violation? 2. Is it worth the time you need for GRJ instead of just Violation spam? I feel like Violation spam outdamages GRJ, so I am curious. Thank you in advance.
How do you go from midnight stinger into TBS cancel?! There is some step missing? How do i transition to Awakening smoothly after midnight stinger in PVE combo?
hello OwO, i'm a valk main who occasionally dabbles with sorc. i've watched almost all your sorc vids over the years because they're always super solid. two things though; key inputs on the screen are very helpful for those less familiar with skill names, and also a small section to go over hotbar skills would be amazing! i know valk hotbars a lot of skills for various reasons even if they can be cast regularly, i assume sorc does the same? anyways, great guide, thank you for posting it \o/
Thanks for the Guide. I have a short Question. Do i need only 1 Downsmash to reset the CC Cap? and which skills should i use after Downshmashes to extend Combos?
You can effectively restart the loop going with stinger/hard cc > filler damage> KD>Filler damage >DS. From my experience I need more than 1 DS for a reset, but I'm also console we can't even eruption into ignition without c swapping between and it took me forever to find out you could do more than 1 DS consecutively lol
is this guide still up to par with all recent skill updates for sorc? Im a returning player and i feel so lost with the update and after using this guide i still have a lot of skill points left over and i feel like im doing something wrong xD
"Cast blade of darkness by pressing C" @7:55 You mean Cast blade of darkness by pressing C and then Shift + RMB ..... Bruh unless I'm missing something here the whole combo guide is missing key presses important to pull this off.
Why when i am doin the combo ( 11:47) npc gets cc limit right after Shadow Ignition and you get it only after Darkness Released . p/s do the combo exactly as you
I've been playing sorc for around 4-5 years with 200ping.. its manageable but yeah you do get cc'ed in protection sometimes. More in Frontal guard. The thing is its way worse on most other classes. Sorc manage due to s.
Can u help me about one thing? When i fight sorc they do crazy dmg with the grym', with my boyfriend we tried many thing and dk why but i do so much useless dmg with it xD i dont understand why (maybe i miss a thing, a cancel.. 🤷♀️) ps I'm new at sorc :x Thank if u answer me!
I added the combo inputs for the combo at 11:56 in the subtitles, to see them simply click on the CC icon in the bottom right of the video, hope it helps ♥
Towards the end of this combo it looks like you did Shift + Q before Shift + F? Think the CC might be off
Great idea dude
"The most fun and diverse class in the game"
Damn straight! Sorc life.
14:54 Thank you for the styling tip, it is really useful with bloody 'calamari' misplay
Best Guide I've seen so far. Very informative with light hearted humor (this is a game). I had a Sage I never really used so I rerolled to Sorceress since I could cut initial investment by keeping the sub weapon I already have at TRI. I'm on console so no season rn and I pre created Dragon Lady 2 for the reward bonuses. I'll max Sorc while I wait.
Miss your content man, you’re the reason I main Sorc. Im on console but this still really helped. Wish you best of luck! 👍🏾
That jump of shame cancel, instant sub. Thank you for this video man.
Finally sorc guide I looking for. 😘
Man.. I struggle to use blade after TBS cancel, found out I use it wrong all along. Thx for figure it out.
Thank you for this guide, Heedun, it's super clear and very useful, well structured as well!
may be a lil older of a video but it was such a big help in some aspects this content is super evergreen Awsome guide, please keep goin with sorc guides buddy we appreciate you.
Thanks for the super kind words ♥ Sadly I quit the game, so no more sorc guides :(
@@Heedun well i hope you keep up your awsome guids in other games, ty again and Gl sir.
having a guide for new stuff after not playing for 19 months is great, ive been liking using attack speed and accuracy on soul harvest a lot, getting 17% attack speed permanently cus of its 5 second cooldown is so busted for pve
Is this guide still relevant? I have just come back and all my skills are reset. Looks like heedun does not play anymore and he was my goto when I used to play.
@spiralianz the crystals are outdated for sure, i was here mainly for the new skill revamp uses and add9ns. But most of the class specific knowledge ohtside of gear recommendations in the vid are good still. I have my own way of doing things when it comes to combos, but what he shows should still definitely work well. Also, lightstones aren't covered here i dont think.
@@spiralianzyeah he quit. This guide should be up to date still.
I've been waiting for this! Great quality video, keep it up bro
This is a great guide, but I have to be brutally honest: after the rework, Sorc feels like a much harder to play version of Kunoichi that gets similar results. I feel like I'm playing a piano concerto when I'm on my Sorc! Kuno feels more like gently strumming an acoustic guitar.
And then there is my Awakened Witch, which, continuing the metaphor, is like putting on headphones and listening to music. Serious, I think my Witch uses 1/5th the APM of my Sorc.
I have pretty much quit grinding on sorc just keep her for pvp and tagged lahn to grind. I'm also on console though just got a monitor capable of 120 fps, but I hover around 80-100 most of the time.
@@haku6506 crazy cus until recently console bdo was capped at 60
Yo man. Sick guide. As 2018 vet I can approve 100% of this. You explained the class better than any one.
Halfway the clip I was thinking of writing a comment that you should include in next video the +lmb for safe casting speed buff but it turned out I have more to learn. Not only you added it but also there is evasion cansel buff with . Cool stuff. We do learn with time. Will push your guide to all my friends sorcs and sorc wannabes. Peace.
I have been waiting for this! Thank's for the update.
Any generic tips for Succ player trying to learn awake? My biggest issue I feel like I spend too long in either stance and C swap feels clunky.
edit: Also wanted to say love your approach with letting people find their own technique, playstyle, and combos, that's the beauty of Sorc is that you're not stuck just chaining together the same endless combo to be effective OR to have fun. And your editing on Peon's stuff lately has been top tier
At the pve combo part, after shift+lmb (mid night stinger), it goes into c swape eyeframe into turn back slash (with animation being cancled) right?
Been waiting for this Heedun, especially after your short Ted Talk on Frostys podcast (value pack)
Really like the combo on screen at +/- 8:00 just bit sad there isnt one 11:54 would have loved to also see it there. Visualizing the combo on screen looks so much more clearer to me. Also was thinking that you skipped over the black spirit rage locking and Skills locking (does anybody leaves evasion unlocked?)
Ether way thanks for the guide!!!!
Fair enough! Maybe I got too fixated on the "learn your own combo" mentality there :D in case it helps the inputs are: ShiftLMB - F - ShiftF - ShiftX - ShiftZ - WF - C - SRMB - LMBRMB - LMB - ShiftF - ShiftQ
@@Heedun Many Thanks!
Violation core gamer, very nice
What's the outfit composition on video avatar?
xD the 10:50 moment made my day !!
btw thanks for the video, i'm a new sorc, and it will help me soo much
14:06 best part change my mind
"bloddy calamari" was just too good HAHAHAHA
even better guide very nice my guy !
Watched just to see if there is anything i didn't know about (coming back from a really long break) but you really got me at the part when you talk about core grj wankers :D i fully agree grj is the 2nd last core i would ever use (not hard to guess #1 useless core xD)
Wonderful guide
Wonderful comment OwO
Thank you so much! Just rerolled and tryna git gud with sorc lol
70 Days of succession sorceress, trying awakening feels like a totally new class :D
Which costume is in the cover photo? ty :)
Hi there, with that pve build without any accurazy crys. or Bhegs you are with arround 780 accuraz (calculating skill accu. and accu %hit rate from addons and skill) that means ur hit rate at monastery is about 70% only and for ash forest just a littl more not to mention the crypt that is about 17%, I dont know from where you got the pic in garmoth but the only way to hit 80-90% hit rate in those places is vipers, elkars, hooms x4, bhegs, ah'krads and the food, church, draught, addons and skill accu buffs. using accu build instead and lose 15 hiden AP is really worth for endgame pve as 13% more hit rate is much better than those 15 hidden ap. Just saying because I had that pve build with that accu some months ago until i have changed to the accu build im saying and my grinding speed and dmg output increassed as hell.
Did you put accuracy and evasion modifiers in the calculation?
@@Heedun yep i did 9% skill and 12% from addons with 803 accu so littl higher than u in the video (795) plus that 9 and 12% with that build is a 83% hit rate at ash forest and monastery, a 73 at olun's and 25 at crypt, instead with accu/dr mix eva pve build is 853 accu everything goes up to 97% at monastery/ash, 87% for olun's and 38% at the crypt
@@diegosanz7605 I re-did the build to check again and the numbers on my build are looking good... Try to make sure you added all the proper stats cause on my end I'm getting 94% on Monastery without JIN Vipers, which is really really good for such a cheap build :D
@@Heedun ok I got what was happenin, I wasnt using the eva.debuff mod. for the calcution...
You truly are a hero.
I went back to using GRJ bon because my ping is ass BUT the swirling core is an amaaaaaaazing protected cc engage in group fights. Wings of the crow into swirling is almost instant, which lets you instagib people who think they're far enough away to be relatively safe, and the 360 degree float is amazing. Also works as a third low cd float catch alongside shadow eruption and ignition, letting you get off a lot more cc pressure in node war while you're iframing around. Howeverrr grim is still amazing as an aoe cc, and you can still cc people safely by using soul harvest and canceling it with swirling without the bon to cover the cc with SA. Overall, great bon to use if you feel like you're taking too much damage before you get grim off or if you want to be more disruptive in the enemies ball and can still easily kill without utilizing grim. Basically, do I want to get big kill feeds with grim, or do I want to give my team more consistent & oppressive cc pressure for them to capitalize on.
Just hit 305ap so, for now I'm enjoying the damage from grim haha.
Good. Good. You want to help your team and piss off the enemy. Make them chase you, break their lines and pull them. Go under their skin. 😊
i found swirling core to be good because the float hits on the first hit and you can cancel the rest of the skill with an similar to shadow ignition so i can cancel ignition, eruption, swirl, & tbs
Might as well use TBS core then right? Since you can linger it too
@@Heedun IMO its not needed. The point isn't adding SA its adding a float cancel since I can already cancel TBS and now with reworks cancel TBS directly into another essentially and if I'm smart on the timing I shouldn't get cc'd anyways but by adding another float cancel it opens up more doors for 1vXing. Just my thoughts on the new core.
@@bobbygobrrrrr7565 you can add a float with the shadow wave rabam instead of hellfire along with freeing up that core for whatever you like.
@@lucyinthsky47j87 yea but again the point is more canceled floats......
can we get an update. I come back to this to see if its been updates
Would have preferred it if this entire video was a walkthrough of what pixel to put every leg slider on for those wide sorc stompers.
I don't understand any of this so I'm going to keep on playing and then watch this video at a later date, lmao. Great video tho, thank you!
Do you get it now tell meeee
sorc - the class that's like jazz xD
nice guide tyty
our boy did it
Don't play anymore but this class only looks sicker now. Still the coolest class I've ever played. Hashashin looks cool now too though.
Heedun, will the new ranked pvp queue be gear normalized or do we have details yet?
Hey Phanta! They've been very secretive with the arena, but they said it's coming out at the end of this month, so finger crossed...
@@Heedun Awesome thanks. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
thank you for making this video I will be able to play witch without problem now, all the time I have one last question, what is this outfit???
REALLY good guide!!!
nice, now i finnaly have an excuse for the jump of shame
This was excellent!
What's the outfit in your thumbnail??
I ain’t even watch yet and was like finally
5:05 Bloody Calamari got me, hahahaha!
So with the DR Build….you use Nouver. You would use this setup for PVE also or switch it too kutum and stay with the rest?
Regards
Hey headun can you tell me how you get the timer to pop up over the targets head? I can't seem to find it in settings
Thanks for the guide :)
Great guide! I have two questions regarding the PvE combo: 1. Why do you use Swirling Darkness before Violation? Does the accuracy buff from Swirling Darkness outdamage the -20 magic DP from Violation? 2. Is it worth the time you need for GRJ instead of just Violation spam? I feel like Violation spam outdamages GRJ, so I am curious. Thank you in advance.
Hey question what is the outfit you have on in the picture before you click the video?
Hey, its the Marnist outfit. It comes and goes from the shop during events.
@@Vsh__ Thank you!
How do you go from midnight stinger into TBS cancel?! There is some step missing? How do i transition to Awakening smoothly after midnight stinger in PVE combo?
C swap
Now this... is a Sorc guide.
Great guide
Nice guide!!! What is the outfit called that you have on you thumbnail/cover photo it looks so cool? 🔥😊😉
Hi heedun great guide, what would you recommend for a DR cystal setup for pve/pvp
😍😍😍 your dp is high nice gs love sorceress
its the bloody calamari that gets me LOOL
Heedun, after pressing Shift+LMB, I press S+RMB but it doesn't launch the awakening ability, it launches the main one, what am I doing wrong?
You're not pressing C
@@Heedun okay okay, since you didn't show it above, I thought it changed only to the awa. Thanks
hello OwO, i'm a valk main who occasionally dabbles with sorc. i've watched almost all your sorc vids over the years because they're always super solid. two things though; key inputs on the screen are very helpful for those less familiar with skill names, and also a small section to go over hotbar skills would be amazing! i know valk hotbars a lot of skills for various reasons even if they can be cast regularly, i assume sorc does the same? anyways, great guide, thank you for posting it \o/
Fair! Skills to put on hotbar: Dark Trade, Absolute Darkness, Soul Reaper, 3rd Rabam and Shard Explosion
Very informational, thank you very much.
Just clicked, hope you added add-on recommendation
How up to date is this guide?
Thanks for the Guide. I have a short Question. Do i need only 1 Downsmash to reset the CC Cap? and which skills should i use after Downshmashes to extend Combos?
You can effectively restart the loop going with stinger/hard cc > filler damage> KD>Filler damage >DS. From my experience I need more than 1 DS for a reset, but I'm also console we can't even eruption into ignition without c swapping between and it took me forever to find out you could do more than 1 DS consecutively lol
Were you using remastered version and if so how tf is it so clear for you 4:53?
@Heedun why do you use kutum and not nouver?
What better replacement for soul harvest and human damage? If you don't mind me asking
Hey there, what outfit do you have on your Sorceress?
Hey guys, which costume is that in the skill preview at 03:44 ? :)
That's marnist outfit. Usually releases around halloween
Great video, much love and kisses? Well done :D
Please make updated sorc gear progression including artifacts and stones build.
I was Lahn main for bit, I was wondering if I should do Sorc awakening for another spin to win class lol
is this guide still up to par with all recent skill updates for sorc? Im a returning player and i feel so lost with the update and after using this guide i still have a lot of skill points left over and i feel like im doing something wrong xD
Should still be yeah!
"Cast blade of darkness by pressing C" @7:55
You mean Cast blade of darkness by pressing C and then Shift + RMB .....
Bruh unless I'm missing something here the whole combo guide is missing key presses important to pull this off.
Since you're already casting MoS you only need the C input to cast BoD
Can you come out with a version of this for consoles as well it’s hard for me to try and find the buttons for moves
Why accuracy is important to sorc?
How many accuracy is enough for pvp?
I was wondering how to do TBS cancel? Trying to learn sorc, Love the video btw
I frame + s + rmb
Why when i am doin the combo ( 11:47) npc gets cc limit right after Shadow Ignition and you get it only after Darkness Released . p/s do the combo exactly as you
So u skimmed passed the most important part. What exactly cancels the fg part of the in awk stance?
any type of movement input, s will transission you into s-block. Mainly happens if you want to but its on cd.
Hey how i can recovery my mana fast if i dnt have perfume???? Never enought mana just some adoom or?? THX and nice video
How much accuracy does a sorc need when sitting at 271 ap with kutum and 309 dp? i am currently at 743 total accuracy
Edit: I have 1894 skill points
I just wanna know what outfit the thumbnail is.
What outfit in a thumbnail?
when guide for succ sorc?
How do you cancel those skills which skills you use to cancel ?
the jump of shame xDDD
What are good pvp skill add ons?
where can i go to practice combos
Will there ever be a update to this or is it all still relevant?
It should still be relevant unless they changed how the game works :D
There will not be an update (from me) since I quit the game
@@Heedun didn’t know you quit sorry to hear that, wish you the best in your new endeavors!
just curious. how does the dead hunt core help with the dk matchup?
Helps with the heavy pressure and you tend to win the trades in their melee skills like wof
Can you write down the pvp combo after shift+f to train on and thanks
It helps , thanks you
Gon make a vid about them very clearly moving resources away from this ip?
Did they remove the evasıon buff after an ıframe?
What is the outfit on your sorc in the thumbnail😅
TY
The only class that gives me problems is succ mystics.....also slows....slows are bad for i frame =/
thanks
I've been playing sorc for around 4-5 years with 200ping.. its manageable but yeah you do get cc'ed in protection sometimes. More in Frontal guard. The thing is its way worse on most other classes. Sorc manage due to s.
i really like how u build your sorc.
dr it is
Can u help me about one thing?
When i fight sorc they do crazy dmg with the grym', with my boyfriend we tried many thing and dk why but i do so much useless dmg with it xD i dont understand why (maybe i miss a thing, a cancel.. 🤷♀️) ps I'm new at sorc :x
Thank if u answer me!
Are you pressing spacebar to charge the extra attack?