This video is not about putting a negative spin on Film Photography (apart from the expense), this is about my needs as a photographer and how I like to work. I'd love to hear your thoughts - so comment below.
I understand your POV 100% and all my analogue cameras are resting on a shelf. After 30 years with film and dark room, I find digital photography is a true relief. Liked the video and subscribed your channel. Keep on rolling! Cheers from Denmark.
I’ve had bad experiences with film, but I won’t give up, because there’s nothing quite like the look of film, unless you buy a Fuji. Then it comes close. But also, the process of making each shot count I really enjoy, and waiting for my images is exciting. If you don’t like waiting, then film photography was never for you man, but consider getting a Fuji if you still want the film look.
5 reasons you could of avoided these problems. 1 shop around , you payed over the odds for the film 2 film test your camera before your trip 3 don’t do film photography for the Gram 4 love the process , enjoy the tactile nature of the art , if it takes a month it takes a month 5 re examine why you wanted to shoot film in the first place
I agree with you on the cost of color film stock especially with the upcoming price increases from Kodak. Since Im now retired I setup up my darkroom again and do my own c41 processing and printing using RA4 chemistry. The price of chemicals and paper have gone up since the late 1990's when I stopped. I enjoy the process of making contact sheets and prints the old fashioned way. What others said about using fujifilm cameras is valid. The film sims are darn close to the real stocks of old. Good luck on your photographic journey
What's with this bizarre idea that you have to quit? Just shoot less, or whenever you feel like it. You do not have to leave one team to join another. I shoot both. Mostly film, but often ill bring both. I know you said you're not quitting, but many others feel they have to pick one or the other. Also you can find colour film much cheaper then 50 pounds for 3 rolls. I pay less than half that. (Or shoot B&W for dirt cheap)
I guess I would say, for me, it's a mindset and a process of working. Everyone's different. I will continue to shoot film on my Olympus MJU II but I won't be buying a Leica M6 any time soon. I'd be interested to know what you shoot with? and you're right, buying cheaper film stock in the future will be a better idea. Thanks for your comment.
Doesn’t have to be black and white either, you can buy color movie film short ends in 100’ rolls and develop and scan it at home as well and really cut down on price.
I wouldn’t let this one bad experience ruin film photography. I’ve shot blanks before, got film with weird colors and results to the point you’d think the camera store sold me some LSD. There’s one method I like to do to make sure it’s loaded properly and insure it’s not going to be a blank roll which is to spin the rewind knob after loading film without pressing the rewind button till it stops. I also would suggest if something is important to you, just shoot digital exclusively unless you feel comfortable with film.
Understandable. Hopefully not forever though. Film prices are going to balance out and new film cameras are coming. I'd say give it another look in 2 years or so :)
Well... digital cameras don't provide me a negative. They give a digital file which is difficult to store safely (computer failures, bit rot, hard drive crashes, accidental deletion). If it's something I consider important, I would rather have a negative so I can print it again and again as needed. That makes the extra expense worth it. Also, a roll of kentmere 400 speed is only a tickle over 5 dollars.
A negative has its own unique flaws. You only have one, which means if your house burns down EVERYTHING is gone, unlike digital where you can save your raw files in 100 different places. The negative is an organic thing that will rot away at some point. At the very least in your own lifetime you will witness that they fade or change colours, sometimes they turn magenta, sometimes green.
I've shot film for over 60 years. Occasionally I've had bad experiences with it also but you just eat it and go to the next, hopefully you learn something in the process. It is horrendously expensive and time consuming. If I were you I'd continue to use the MJU II if you want to play with it. I have several cameras that the shutters aren't working properly "that sit on the shelf". If you really want to learn photography get an old mechanical medium format camera like a Rolleicord VA, Yashica twin lens or a Mamiya 330 has interchangeable lenses and work with that for a while. Many of them in good working condition can be had for a good price. Mamiya RB67 is a big mechanical hulk that takes nice 6x7 photos. Not to say than any of those won't break either. They are all old.
Hey Jason, you can set notification on restocks for film! I managed to get a few 3 roll boxes for £50. Also have just got a OM10 and an OM1 today and I cant wait to try them out :)
@@Jay_Ducker Not at the moment, doing film photography here and there but am applying for all the media jobs I can find. Working at a bar at the moment doing all the bad shifts haha
Yes.. the cost of film is crazy expensive, so you really need extra care before shoot… so it’s becoming not fun anymore… photography for me is a hobby, so what I’m doing is for fun only… there’s another way, like digital… the film camera is also getting more expensive anyway while the digital camera is getting much much cheaper
Hi Jay, great video and while i understand all your points, i cant help but ask: where in Portugal were these b-roll shots taken? Im headed there and would love to visit this exact location. Thanks
I have noticed one thing, people who who quit film photography usually, they are already heavily using digital photography. Plus I am curious how you are not being able to pull out a project with film cmaera?
It's not I can't pull out a project, it's just a much longer process as I said in the video. I wouldn't say I'm heavily into digital photography but I have been pulled a lot more recently. Thanks for your comment.
i can respect that productivity argument, from a subjective viewpoint. makes a lot of sense actually. the process doesn't lend itself to everyone, and that's ok. no sense in trying to argue with you, because you tried it out and it didn't work for you, that's life! cheers and thanks for sharing your unique viewpoint, its really needed!! edit: I also want to say I love how short & sweet this was, really well put together really for a simple video. inspires me to do this more on lil topics that pop up in my head from time to time.
Thank you that means a lot - it’s a hard topic to discuss because I do love film photography and I know a lot of other people do too. I think as I said, I’m just going to do it a lot less. Thanks again
I just bought a Pentax 67, I had Kodak Portra 400 120 and some cheap BW Film. It was easy for me to say let me try the Kodak, but before using an expensive film stock, I needed to test if the camera worked, so I had chosen the BW. Luckily it does work, but why I’m sharing this story is for next time you decide to pick up a camera, test a cheap film roll at different apertures and make sure everything works before going out and shooting expensive film
For me. Full frame setup is really expensive for me. Around 5000 in my calculation minimum, with max around 8000. Even apsc is around 2550 minimum to 5000 maximum. My Film photo setup is 350. Thats include 2 flagship lens and 1 flagship and 2 mid tier body.
I’m realizing film photography is pure nostalgia. That’s it. Not worth the expense. If we printed more photographs from digital cameras, built photo albums and shoot digital cameras in a more methodical way, then digital can offer the same experience.
M just sending off my second roll, first one I got was blank, User Error not loading properly, this roll I bought a while ago along with some others I’ve got in other SLR’s, mainly to test the cameras as I’ve 7 and will end up selling some. I’ve not bought film for quite a while and could never shoot film full time, even as a hobbyist as I just can’t afford the processing, I’d have to do my own which I’ve no real interest in doing. I do want a small point and shoot though that, like you I can keep with me all the time, we’ll most of it anyway.
You are right!, Ektar, Portra sure those go for well over 10 Dollars, Euros per roll, but there are much afordable stock like Foma, Kentmere and some Agfas.
Hi Jay, I get it, completely. I grew up with film, built my own darkrooms, worked in the industry - a couple of light years ago ;-) Now I'm old I simply can't justify the cost of film and lab work, so it's digital all the way for me. I also don't think I'd have the patience to wait for the results the way we all used to. Old cams are hugely tactile beasts but can be unreliable. I have a few older digital cams with CCD sensors but neither they nor your Fujifilm simulations can genuinely replicate the results of film. I still love taking photos, just not with film anymore. Enjoy the MJU, they are terrific little cams. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for stopping by Trevor. It's always nice to hear from fellow photographers about their personal experiences and I think it definitely is a personal preference.
why did you shoot film in the first place ? Don't get me wrong, that's an honest question. I myself am questioning this purely technical, statistical approach to photography (megapixels, focus points, dynamic range...). So, I can see the appeal of film photography. But couldn't you counter that with a more self-disciplined approach even with digital cameras ? Just use one focus point, only use manual focus, only shoot jpeg, don't check your shot at the camera screen.... So, why film ?
For me, it was a mixture of nostalgia, curiosity and to learn about the process. I'd say its like being a musician, I know how to play the guitar but could I play the bass or the piano or the drums. It's in the same field so why not explore film photography. Like I said in the video, I will continue shoot film on my Olympus mju II but for now, that's as far as I will be going.
These are all fair points to be honest. 😂I’ve been shooting film for a bit over a year…Somewhere in the beginning I took a Fuji DL 300 on a trip to Colombia because I wanted the entire memory of it on film. I didn’t shoot anything digital. If those rolls would’ve come back blank I would’ve punted the crap out of that camera and never looked back. As far as price though - I started out shooting primarily Polaroid and it primed me to not care about how much this hobby costs lol
Wow that would have been a real shame had you have come back with nothing. It is a gamble whenever you shoot film and I think you have to be a confident enough shooter to make that choice.
The expense of film is significant, but so is digital. Constantly upgrading computers and software and cameras and lenses is horrifically expensive. I shoot with film in monochrome (I buy in bulk) and shoot color with my old digital cameras (D3, D700, D300) and am very satisfied by my approach. I've been shooting for 50 plus years and am just as passionate about shooting. Be more disciplined in your workflow and you will save money. Learn how to load your film and do the work. If this is "just a hobby" get out of photography. Photography isn't for hobbyists anymore. It's for serious individuals with a passion. Passion involves pain.
$60 for 3 rolls of Kodak Gold 100? Really? B&H Photo here in New York sells a 5 pack of Portra 400 for $80 ($16 a roll). Kodak Gold is $11.99 a roll. It’s all wildly overpriced but $20 a roll for Kodak Gold 100 is simply a bad deal.
I have noticed more and more you tube channels are now showing more digital camera and photography content. I love film photography and shoot and develop black and white film.
Who takes an untested 40-year-old camera on a trip? Common sense, man. Also, I just bought a 3-pack of Fujicolor 200 (rebranded Kodak Gold) for $22. Shop around.
Why would anyone shoot film at all. It’s horrible inconvenient, and you don’t have full control of what you capture, on top of the fact that it is ridiculously expensive.
i am sorry, but didnt you check the shutter before inserting the film? the mechanical cameras with the electronic shutters are the worst on todays used market. you should stick to all manual cameras and dont even use the built in light meter or the modern AF cameras. skip the cameras in between. they have often faulty electronics.
Well this week I will be collecting my new Canon all singing all dancing 100000 mega pixel, 300 fps, 1 million ISO mirrorless camera for nature , bird and motorsport photography. And probably a used Olympus OMD 10, the camera I first had in the early 90s. But before I get on an aeroplane or anything else I will make sure everything works first! I am also aware of the differences between digital and film cameras and photography. Its all about thinking and planning, make sure you have a backlog of pictures to post onto multi media on a daily basis. Yes thinking a head and planning, something in this hightech world is a disappearing art form! The younger people of today are very quickly (probably too late) losing the ability to think, everything is at their finger tips in seconds! The magic in beauty has been lost by idiot proof cameras and even worse light rooms editing applications, our minds and even worse, over fucking saturated pictures are flooding multi media outlets, Patience, expectations, hopes, anticipation, "will that picture come out" its all a thing of the past now! You are coming across as a frustrated teenager who didnt get the results he wanted in seconds, which is sadly how the world has become! And I am aware I may sound like some old boomer (i'm in my 50s) but seriously your whole vlog sounds like Mr angry having dig at the past! So what actually is the point of this speech of yours, who is it aimed at?? You know the film must be developed, you knew when you bought the camera isn't going to be click straight to instagram! I'll tell why I am buying an old film camera, because it will help me with my photography, I shoot all my digital stuff in Manual anyway, and an old camera will help me think more about my photography in general, yes I'm very sorry to have used the word think in front of someone your age, but that is clearly something you obviously weren't doing when you bought that camera! And just to clear something else up, it may surprise you to know, 10000000s of professional photographers used analogy cameras for decades before "downloading, and usb, and USD cards were invented" And yes its obvious todays professorial photographers wouldnt last 5 minutes in their careers if they chose to go to analogy, its 2022 I am aware of this fact! The point of your vlog totally escapes me, unless it was Jay Ducker bitching about something us old fuckers already knew!!!
This video is not about putting a negative spin on Film Photography (apart from the expense), this is about my needs as a photographer and how I like to work.
I'd love to hear your thoughts - so comment below.
I understand your POV 100% and all my analogue cameras are resting on a shelf. After 30 years with film and dark room, I find digital photography is a true relief. Liked the video and subscribed your channel. Keep on rolling! Cheers from Denmark.
Everything you said is right for lots of us. All the expense gets in the way of creating.
I’ve had bad experiences with film, but I won’t give up, because there’s nothing quite like the look of film, unless you buy a Fuji. Then it comes close. But also, the process of making each shot count I really enjoy, and waiting for my images is exciting. If you don’t like waiting, then film photography was never for you man, but consider getting a Fuji if you still want the film look.
5 reasons you could of avoided these problems.
1 shop around , you payed over the odds for the film
2 film test your camera before your trip
3 don’t do film photography for the Gram
4 love the process , enjoy the tactile nature of the art , if it takes a month it takes a month
5 re examine why you wanted to shoot film in the first place
I agree with you on the cost of color film stock especially with the upcoming price increases from Kodak. Since Im now retired I setup up my darkroom again and do my own c41 processing and printing using RA4 chemistry. The price of chemicals and paper have gone up since the late 1990's when I stopped. I enjoy the process of making contact sheets and prints the old fashioned way. What others said about using fujifilm cameras is valid. The film sims are darn close to the real stocks of old. Good luck on your photographic journey
What's with this bizarre idea that you have to quit? Just shoot less, or whenever you feel like it. You do not have to leave one team to join another. I shoot both. Mostly film, but often ill bring both. I know you said you're not quitting, but many others feel they have to pick one or the other.
Also you can find colour film much cheaper then 50 pounds for 3 rolls. I pay less than half that. (Or shoot B&W for dirt cheap)
I guess I would say, for me, it's a mindset and a process of working. Everyone's different. I will continue to shoot film on my Olympus MJU II but I won't be buying a Leica M6 any time soon. I'd be interested to know what you shoot with?
and you're right, buying cheaper film stock in the future will be a better idea.
Thanks for your comment.
I just got into film photography, every shot matters now! But Im moved to film to have fun with photography again
Every shot does matter! Good luck with it mate
If you shoot on BW, buy bulk film, reload yourself and develop / scan it home, you can cut the expense by half, at least.
That's very true!
Doesn’t have to be black and white either, you can buy color movie film short ends in 100’ rolls and develop and scan it at home as well and really cut down on price.
@@richardv340 That s true!
I wouldn’t let this one bad experience ruin film photography. I’ve shot blanks before, got film with weird colors and results to the point you’d think the camera store sold me some LSD. There’s one method I like to do to make sure it’s loaded properly and insure it’s not going to be a blank roll which is to spin the rewind knob after loading film without pressing the rewind button till it stops. I also would suggest if something is important to you, just shoot digital exclusively unless you feel comfortable with film.
Yeah great points! As I said in the video, I'm not fully quitting film photography but I will be using it a lot less. Thanks for your comment
I'm not quitting film. I just use it very very less :) the price of film is getting ridiculous
As I said in the video - I'm not really quitting but I will be using it sparingly from now on
Understandable. Hopefully not forever though. Film prices are going to balance out and new film cameras are coming. I'd say give it another look in 2 years or so :)
I still shoot with my Olympus mju ii but not as often and yeah you’re right, it’s exciting to see what new film cameras will come out. We shall see.
Awesome editing man. Really enjoy the shots and your voice comes across very soothing. Top notch content!
Thanks bud - really appreciate you taking the time to have a watch!
Well... digital cameras don't provide me a negative. They give a digital file which is difficult to store safely (computer failures, bit rot, hard drive crashes, accidental deletion). If it's something I consider important, I would rather have a negative so I can print it again and again as needed. That makes the extra expense worth it. Also, a roll of kentmere 400 speed is only a tickle over 5 dollars.
A negative has its own unique flaws.
You only have one, which means if your house burns down EVERYTHING is gone, unlike digital where you can save your raw files in 100 different places.
The negative is an organic thing that will rot away at some point. At the very least in your own lifetime you will witness that they fade or change colours, sometimes they turn magenta, sometimes green.
I've shot film for over 60 years. Occasionally I've had bad experiences with it also but you just eat it and go to the next, hopefully you learn something in the process. It is horrendously expensive and time consuming. If I were you I'd continue to use the MJU II if you want to play with it. I have several cameras that the shutters aren't working properly "that sit on the shelf". If you really want to learn photography get an old mechanical medium format camera like a Rolleicord VA, Yashica twin lens or a Mamiya 330 has interchangeable lenses and work with that for a while. Many of them in good working condition can be had for a good price. Mamiya RB67 is a big mechanical hulk that takes nice 6x7 photos. Not to say than any of those won't break either. They are all old.
Yeah wise words - I'll definitely continue to shoot with my Olympus MJU II - I do love that camera
Hey Jason, you can set notification on restocks for film! I managed to get a few 3 roll boxes for £50. Also have just got a OM10 and an OM1 today and I cant wait to try them out :)
Nice one Rafi! Let me know how you get on with them? How are you doing buddy?
@@Jay_Ducker I'm doing great thanks! Moved to Norwich and I'm hopefully trying on progressing my video and photography to the next level!
Good man - Norwich is a good city. Are you working on much?
@@Jay_Ducker Not at the moment, doing film photography here and there but am applying for all the media jobs I can find. Working at a bar at the moment doing all the bad shifts haha
Yes.. the cost of film is crazy expensive, so you really need extra care before shoot… so it’s becoming not fun anymore… photography for me is a hobby, so what I’m doing is for fun only… there’s another way, like digital… the film camera is also getting more expensive anyway while the digital camera is getting much much cheaper
Yeah fair - good points
Hi Jay, great video and while i understand all your points, i cant help but ask: where in Portugal were these b-roll shots taken? Im headed there and would love to visit this exact location.
Thanks
Thank you - I was in Praia Da Luz, not far from Lagos - about 10 mins by taxi
I have noticed one thing, people who who quit film photography usually, they are already heavily using digital photography.
Plus I am curious how you are not being able to pull out a project with film cmaera?
It's not I can't pull out a project, it's just a much longer process as I said in the video. I wouldn't say I'm heavily into digital photography but I have been pulled a lot more recently. Thanks for your comment.
i can respect that productivity argument, from a subjective viewpoint. makes a lot of sense actually. the process doesn't lend itself to everyone, and that's ok. no sense in trying to argue with you, because you tried it out and it didn't work for you, that's life! cheers and thanks for sharing your unique viewpoint, its really needed!!
edit: I also want to say I love how short & sweet this was, really well put together really for a simple video. inspires me to do this more on lil topics that pop up in my head from time to time.
Thank you that means a lot - it’s a hard topic to discuss because I do love film photography and I know a lot of other people do too. I think as I said, I’m just going to do it a lot less. Thanks again
I have come back to film shop around your find the deals on film it’s a set back don’t give up it’s more rewarding than digital
I just bought a Pentax 67, I had Kodak Portra 400 120 and some cheap BW Film. It was easy for me to say let me try the Kodak, but before using an expensive film stock, I needed to test if the camera worked, so I had chosen the BW. Luckily it does work, but why I’m sharing this story is for next time you decide to pick up a camera, test a cheap film roll at different apertures and make sure everything works before going out and shooting expensive film
For me. Full frame setup is really expensive for me. Around 5000 in my calculation minimum, with max around 8000. Even apsc is around 2550 minimum to 5000 maximum. My Film photo setup is 350. Thats include 2 flagship lens and 1 flagship and 2 mid tier body.
My lens setup is: 50 (portrait), 35 (alt portrait optional), 28 (street landmark), 24 (landscape)
I’m realizing film photography is pure nostalgia. That’s it. Not worth the expense. If we printed more photographs from digital cameras, built photo albums and shoot digital cameras in a more methodical way, then digital can offer the same experience.
M just sending off my second roll, first one I got was blank, User Error not loading properly, this roll I bought a while ago along with some others I’ve got in other SLR’s, mainly to test the cameras as I’ve 7 and will end up selling some. I’ve not bought film for quite a while and could never shoot film full time, even as a hobbyist as I just can’t afford the processing, I’d have to do my own which I’ve no real interest in doing. I do want a small point and shoot though that, like you I can keep with me all the time, we’ll most of it anyway.
fifty pounds for three rolls of gold? in germany it's twenty euro per three pack (would be 52 pounds for nine rolls), they robbed you!
Yep they certainly did!
You are right!, Ektar, Portra sure those go for well over 10 Dollars, Euros per roll, but there are much afordable stock like Foma, Kentmere and some Agfas.
Hi Jay, I get it, completely. I grew up with film, built my own darkrooms, worked in the industry - a couple of light years ago ;-) Now I'm old I simply can't justify the cost of film and lab work, so it's digital all the way for me. I also don't think I'd have the patience to wait for the results the way we all used to. Old cams are hugely tactile beasts but can be unreliable. I have a few older digital cams with CCD sensors but neither they nor your Fujifilm simulations can genuinely replicate the results of film. I still love taking photos, just not with film anymore. Enjoy the MJU, they are terrific little cams. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for stopping by Trevor. It's always nice to hear from fellow photographers about their personal experiences and I think it definitely is a personal preference.
why did you shoot film in the first place ? Don't get me wrong, that's an honest question. I myself am questioning this purely technical, statistical approach to photography (megapixels, focus points, dynamic range...). So, I can see the appeal of film photography. But couldn't you counter that with a more self-disciplined approach even with digital cameras ? Just use one focus point, only use manual focus, only shoot jpeg, don't check your shot at the camera screen.... So, why film ?
For me, it was a mixture of nostalgia, curiosity and to learn about the process. I'd say its like being a musician, I know how to play the guitar but could I play the bass or the piano or the drums. It's in the same field so why not explore film photography. Like I said in the video, I will continue shoot film on my Olympus mju II but for now, that's as far as I will be going.
These are all fair points to be honest. 😂I’ve been shooting film for a bit over a year…Somewhere in the beginning I took a Fuji DL 300 on a trip to Colombia because I wanted the entire memory of it on film. I didn’t shoot anything digital. If those rolls would’ve come back blank I would’ve punted the crap out of that camera and never looked back.
As far as price though - I started out shooting primarily Polaroid and it primed me to not care about how much this hobby costs lol
Wow that would have been a real shame had you have come back with nothing. It is a gamble whenever you shoot film and I think you have to be a confident enough shooter to make that choice.
The expense of film is significant, but so is digital. Constantly upgrading computers and software and cameras and lenses is horrifically expensive. I shoot with film in monochrome (I buy in bulk) and shoot color with my old digital cameras (D3, D700, D300) and am very satisfied by my approach. I've been shooting for 50 plus years and am just as passionate about shooting. Be more disciplined in your workflow and you will save money. Learn how to load your film and do the work. If this is "just a hobby" get out of photography. Photography isn't for hobbyists anymore. It's for serious individuals with a passion. Passion involves pain.
$60 for 3 rolls of Kodak Gold 100? Really? B&H Photo here in New York sells a 5 pack of Portra 400 for $80 ($16 a roll). Kodak Gold is $11.99 a roll. It’s all wildly overpriced but $20 a roll for Kodak Gold 100 is simply a bad deal.
I have noticed more and more you tube channels are now showing more digital camera and photography content. I love film photography and shoot and develop black and white film.
You area digital guy. 😅
Film photography is only for people who know how to enjoy it.
And I love it.
Who takes an untested 40-year-old camera on a trip? Common sense, man.
Also, I just bought a 3-pack of Fujicolor 200 (rebranded Kodak Gold) for $22. Shop around.
Why would anyone shoot film at all. It’s horrible inconvenient, and you don’t have full control of what you capture, on top of the fact that it is ridiculously expensive.
i am sorry, but didnt you check the shutter before inserting the film? the mechanical cameras with the electronic shutters are the worst on todays used market. you should stick to all manual cameras and dont even use the built in light meter or the modern AF cameras. skip the cameras in between. they have often faulty electronics.
Well this week I will be collecting my new Canon all singing all dancing 100000 mega pixel, 300 fps, 1 million ISO mirrorless camera for nature , bird and motorsport photography. And probably a used Olympus OMD 10, the camera I first had in the early 90s. But before I get on an aeroplane or anything else I will make sure everything works first! I am also aware of the differences between digital and film cameras and photography. Its all about thinking and planning, make sure you have a backlog of pictures to post onto multi media on a daily basis. Yes thinking a head and planning, something in this hightech world is a disappearing art form! The younger people of today are very quickly (probably too late) losing the ability to think, everything is at their finger tips in seconds! The magic in beauty has been lost by idiot proof cameras and even worse light rooms editing applications, our minds and even worse, over fucking saturated pictures are flooding multi media outlets, Patience, expectations, hopes, anticipation, "will that picture come out" its all a thing of the past now! You are coming across as a frustrated teenager who didnt get the results he wanted in seconds, which is sadly how the world has become! And I am aware I may sound like some old boomer (i'm in my 50s) but seriously your whole vlog sounds like Mr angry having dig at the past! So what actually is the point of this speech of yours, who is it aimed at?? You know the film must be developed, you knew when you bought the camera isn't going to be click straight to instagram! I'll tell why I am buying an old film camera, because it will help me with my photography, I shoot all my digital stuff in Manual anyway, and an old camera will help me think more about my photography in general, yes I'm very sorry to have used the word think in front of someone your age, but that is clearly something you obviously weren't doing when you bought that camera! And just to clear something else up, it may surprise you to know, 10000000s of professional photographers used analogy cameras for decades before "downloading, and usb, and USD cards were invented" And yes its obvious todays professorial photographers wouldnt last 5 minutes in their careers if they chose to go to analogy, its 2022 I am aware of this fact! The point of your vlog totally escapes me, unless it was Jay Ducker bitching about something us old fuckers already knew!!!