what i li,ke about the Karovsky thing is that he's dad didn't defend him and question his behavior and believe Kurt whitout even trying to defend his son actions
It was just a puppy love for Kurt. He's overdramatic and eventually moved on. I think Fin had to find his own confidence in himself to rise above the immaturity he was reflecting. That line you were loving of Sue's mom, that's just classic Carol Burnett humor. She always talked like that! It is always hilarious!
On the Kurt-Finn thing,, I don't remember if they ever discuss it like that but I personally think that Kurt wasn't actually in love with Finn and he's realized that now knowing him better. I think it was more like a really intense crush, that was less about Finn but more about the fantasy of the hot popular football jock. But that's just my opinion, I do wish they would've clarified the whole situation before but that's just glee being glee ig. And I love the Sue storyline with her mum too! It really hit home for me. It's heartbreaking having your family be your first bully. I loved how they showed how much pride Sue takes in "being stronger" because of bullying and how she clings onto the "words can't hurt me" idea, only to actually have her meet her bully later and realize that actually bullying and experiencing that kind of pain doesn't make you stronger. It just hurts and you go numb after a while and accept it as normal. Glee can be such a weird show, but every once in a while they do storylines like this and I could talk for hours about the impact they have.
the thing with a lot of shows is that we see an episode but in the story weeks went by. so we need to consider that a lot of things happend there that we dont see. (refering to the "kurt in love with finn" thing)
I'll never, ever, in my life, get over Sue walking in with a tracksuit wedding dress. It's one of those pinnacle Glee moments that's forever ingrained in my mind and I may burst out laughing on my own on the bus out of the blue if it ever comes to mind 😂
If you need a ring to symbolize a promise, then it isn't really a promise. Also, my favorite thing about this episode is that Sue is serious in that she hates not being able to do anything.
i don't think the fact that Rachel want to help kurt is weird she has to dads and she care about Kurt they just had their moment when yes they don't really seems friends but they are kinda the same obsessed with Broadway and stiff and he's Finn step bro and she love Finn so Kurt is like Rachel family in a way
It is not weird because she has helped others along the way already. She helped Kurt not too long ago when she was feeling lonely. She has helped Finn numerous times, in turn helping Quinn when she was pregnant, has tried to help the club etc.
Imo, Kurt's love for Finn in Season 1 was either a) a simple but intense crush that he grew out of, b) an innocent admiration/idolisation that he then mistook for love, or c) wishful thinking that he could achieve some people's high school fantasy of dating the popular quarterback. I think the breaking point that caused him to start losing feelings was the slur incident; it crushed his crush and, although it wouldn't just make his feelings immediately disappear, I think enough time has gone by at this point that they've dissipated - the incident was before Regionals, so that ep would have been set in, what, March? Earlier? And now it's probably about mid-November, since the Christmas episode is in 2 episode's time. So that's nearly a year for him to get over it.
Don't mean to be that guy, but you need some more chill with this show. Yes, Kurt and Finn have moved on from the crush thing. Do you still keep your first crushes? And yes, Finn has finally accepted Kurt for who he is and as his brother. It took a struggle, but he finally did it. It was a very sweet moment. His character had an improvement arch. People change and grow. Especially teens who change day by day and hour by hour. I think you'd appreciate the show more if you put your teen self in there instead of your adult self that knows better about all this stuff. And yeah, part of this show is a little escapism, like a cartoon. Sue wouldn't get away being who she is irl. That's what makes it fun. In a show, she can be. I'm not saying you have to like the show. Just saying don't hold on to stuff so hard. It's not as serious as you maybe want it to be. It's more like a soap opera and musical.
For clarification, I thought the whole thing with Sue was hilarious lol. Keep in mind, I’m kind of “binging” this show whereas at this time, people had more time between episodes so the stuff with Kurt and Finn and also Burt and Finn feel way more recent than they would have back then watching the episodes in real time
Rachel has two gay dads, plus she identifies with Kurt in a lot of ways and this season develops that. Also, from a very young age she must have learned about homophobia and doesn't want to see anyone doing that to Kurt. Is Rachel selfish? Yes, when it involves being the lead singer or getting more attention, but she knows how to be a good friend too and has proven it countless times.
I also share a dislike for Just the Way You Are lol I find it so cringy tbh As a fellow gay guy with many problematic crushes during my teenage years, lemme be the first to say that those feelings do kinda go away. At least enough for them not to be problematic. But then again, also, that's Glee. Things happen and suddenly they are all completely resolved a couple episodes later. That's just how most of TV was back then I guess. TV is much more realistic nowadays, I think, at least in the way people interact with each other, so these things wouldn't fly if Glee was made today, but then again, neither would a lot of what makes it such an amazing piece of television
Gee what a surprise, another person who ignores the good things Rachel had done. She has treated Kurt better than he ever treated her to this point. Also funny how he didn't say a world about Santana bullying Rachel with intimation and name-calling. And the last line was just exposition to remind the viewers about Blaine and the Warblers.
Didn’t mention Santana bullying Rachel because she does it every week and it’s expected at this point. Rachel’s character tends to think more about the success of the club and ultimately her so yes, to me it felt out of the ordinary for her to just go so far out of her way to stand up for Kurt BUT I suppose Rachel knows more than anyone what it’s like to be bullied because she is daily lol
what i li,ke about the Karovsky thing is that he's dad didn't defend him and question his behavior and believe Kurt whitout even trying to defend his son actions
It was just a puppy love for Kurt. He's overdramatic and eventually moved on. I think Fin had to find his own confidence in himself to rise above the immaturity he was reflecting. That line you were loving of Sue's mom, that's just classic Carol Burnett humor. She always talked like that! It is always hilarious!
On the Kurt-Finn thing,, I don't remember if they ever discuss it like that but I personally think that Kurt wasn't actually in love with Finn and he's realized that now knowing him better. I think it was more like a really intense crush, that was less about Finn but more about the fantasy of the hot popular football jock. But that's just my opinion, I do wish they would've clarified the whole situation before but that's just glee being glee ig.
And I love the Sue storyline with her mum too! It really hit home for me. It's heartbreaking having your family be your first bully. I loved how they showed how much pride Sue takes in "being stronger" because of bullying and how she clings onto the "words can't hurt me" idea, only to actually have her meet her bully later and realize that actually bullying and experiencing that kind of pain doesn't make you stronger. It just hurts and you go numb after a while and accept it as normal. Glee can be such a weird show, but every once in a while they do storylines like this and I could talk for hours about the impact they have.
If i'm not mistaken the kurt-finn fight got resolved when Finn dressed up in that red gown for the Gaga episode and defended Kurt against the jocks
the thing with a lot of shows is that we see an episode but in the story weeks went by. so we need to consider that a lot of things happend there that we dont see. (refering to the "kurt in love with finn" thing)
It’s very cool when you harmonize with the music IMO. Sounds really good 👍🏽
I'll never, ever, in my life, get over Sue walking in with a tracksuit wedding dress. It's one of those pinnacle Glee moments that's forever ingrained in my mind and I may burst out laughing on my own on the bus out of the blue if it ever comes to mind 😂
Very cool and its an amazing episode aswell, been watching since s1 ep1 and loving the reactions
If you need a ring to symbolize a promise, then it isn't really a promise.
Also, my favorite thing about this episode is that Sue is serious in that she hates not being able to do anything.
i don't think the fact that Rachel want to help kurt is weird she has to dads and she care about Kurt they just had their moment when yes they don't really seems friends but they are kinda the same obsessed with Broadway and stiff and he's Finn step bro and she love Finn so Kurt is like Rachel family in a way
It is not weird because she has helped others along the way already. She helped Kurt not too long ago when she was feeling lonely. She has helped Finn numerous times, in turn helping Quinn when she was pregnant, has tried to help the club etc.
@@suz2590 yep
Imo, Kurt's love for Finn in Season 1 was either a) a simple but intense crush that he grew out of, b) an innocent admiration/idolisation that he then mistook for love, or c) wishful thinking that he could achieve some people's high school fantasy of dating the popular quarterback. I think the breaking point that caused him to start losing feelings was the slur incident; it crushed his crush and, although it wouldn't just make his feelings immediately disappear, I think enough time has gone by at this point that they've dissipated - the incident was before Regionals, so that ep would have been set in, what, March? Earlier? And now it's probably about mid-November, since the Christmas episode is in 2 episode's time. So that's nearly a year for him to get over it.
I really respect Kurt for not outing Karofsky as being gay, he took the high road on that one
I've only ever seen promise rings in media. Didn't know it was a real life thing, lol.
Oh my full episode react!!
I AMMM NOUGGGTT
I’m here for any Shue slander
"Satan's jewelry" 😅
I've never heard of a promise ring. Thought this show made that up
Nope. People used to do that.
It sound made up, but it was real, famous young stars even promoted them, I think thats why it got popular (I think Disney forced/encourage them)
Don't mean to be that guy, but you need some more chill with this show. Yes, Kurt and Finn have moved on from the crush thing. Do you still keep your first crushes? And yes, Finn has finally accepted Kurt for who he is and as his brother. It took a struggle, but he finally did it. It was a very sweet moment.
His character had an improvement arch. People change and grow. Especially teens who change day by day and hour by hour. I think you'd appreciate the show more if you put your teen self in there instead of your adult self that knows better about all this stuff.
And yeah, part of this show is a little escapism, like a cartoon. Sue wouldn't get away being who she is irl. That's what makes it fun. In a show, she can be. I'm not saying you have to like the show. Just saying don't hold on to stuff so hard. It's not as serious as you maybe want it to be. It's more like a soap opera and musical.
For clarification, I thought the whole thing with Sue was hilarious lol. Keep in mind, I’m kind of “binging” this show whereas at this time, people had more time between episodes so the stuff with Kurt and Finn and also Burt and Finn feel way more recent than they would have back then watching the episodes in real time
Rachel has two gay dads, plus she identifies with Kurt in a lot of ways and this season develops that. Also, from a very young age she must have learned about homophobia and doesn't want to see anyone doing that to Kurt. Is Rachel selfish? Yes, when it involves being the lead singer or getting more attention, but she knows how to be a good friend too and has proven it countless times.
I also share a dislike for Just the Way You Are lol I find it so cringy tbh
As a fellow gay guy with many problematic crushes during my teenage years, lemme be the first to say that those feelings do kinda go away. At least enough for them not to be problematic. But then again, also, that's Glee. Things happen and suddenly they are all completely resolved a couple episodes later. That's just how most of TV was back then I guess. TV is much more realistic nowadays, I think, at least in the way people interact with each other, so these things wouldn't fly if Glee was made today, but then again, neither would a lot of what makes it such an amazing piece of television
Is her name Santana or Satana? It was just a summer fling, now they're brothers. Her marriage won't last, if she isn't a runaway bride first that is.
I think what Kurt had was more of a crush than real feelings for Finn, and I think he knows it. Trust me, he will be fine later.
Gee what a surprise, another person who ignores the good things Rachel had done. She has treated Kurt better than he ever treated her to this point. Also funny how he didn't say a world about Santana bullying Rachel with intimation and name-calling.
And the last line was just exposition to remind the viewers about Blaine and the Warblers.
Didn’t mention Santana bullying Rachel because she does it every week and it’s expected at this point. Rachel’s character tends to think more about the success of the club and ultimately her so yes, to me it felt out of the ordinary for her to just go so far out of her way to stand up for Kurt BUT I suppose Rachel knows more than anyone what it’s like to be bullied because she is daily lol
At this point you gone start criticizing schue for breathing next
Hey I actually liked him this episode! Lol
Mr Shue is objectively the worst tho
Just add him to the roster of creepy characters and story lines this show turns out. I think maybe I blame "Friends" for this.