Comparing Lee's Value Turret Press to their Classic Turret press

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
  • #LeePrecision In this video I do a side by side comparison of the Lee Value Turret Press and the Classic Turret press. I am a big fan of the turret press so I was interested to see the new offering looked side by side. Please visit Eagle Eye Shooting / acidia609

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  • @sofloemir
    @sofloemir 2 роки тому +33

    Big difference that isn't mentioned here is that Classic press can handle 3.75" OAL loads (MANY rifle including 300wm) where the value press can only handle 2.31" OAL which means you'd have to disable auto indexing, taking a big feature away. I will be loading tall 30.06 rounds which means I can't effectively use the value press. Might be a reason to get classic alone.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  2 роки тому +12

      I totally skipped over the clearance issue in the video. Your comment is excellent so I pinned it to the top. Thanks!

    • @RealMrSmit
      @RealMrSmit 2 роки тому +1

      The problem is that the turret starts turning before the 30-06 seating die clears the seated bullet, so for me it’s not working with the 30-06.
      Still my favorite press I own though

    • @sofloemir
      @sofloemir 2 роки тому +1

      @@RealMrSmit yep, so you need the classic which will work

    • @RealMrSmit
      @RealMrSmit 2 роки тому +1

      @@sofloemir I have the classic turret( I should have stated this in my comment), it’s the seating die that doesn’t clear the 30-06 cartridge before the turret turns. Maybe it would work if I’d screw the die out slightly and turn the adjuster in more as is was a matter of a 16th of an inch or so, but enough to jam the press up. So I use my classic turret only to load 223 and some handgun calibers and use my classic cast for 30-06 and up.

    • @RealMrSmit
      @RealMrSmit Рік тому

      @@sofloemir so I actually tested again and I can get the seating die to work but it’s the factory crimp die that jams up the press.
      Now I could take the cartridge out of the shellholder before the turret indexes, but that’s not my habit.

  • @EagleEyeShooting
    @EagleEyeShooting 6 років тому +15

    This is excellent showing the two qualities! Now folks can really understand why the extra cost of the CTP might be worth it.. I'll sharing this with many! And Thank-you for the great work you do!

  • @georgiaboy4410
    @georgiaboy4410 6 років тому +12

    Great unbiased comparison. Smart move by Lee with the VT. They probably have a warehouse full of that linkage left over from their older value turret and are able to use it up with the bases for the new progressive press. Nice press but I think the LCT is still king. Haha. Great video thanks and subbed👍🏻🇺🇸

  • @6Sally5
    @6Sally5 4 роки тому +5

    I am SO glad I bought the LCT! I’ve had it for about 5 years now and love it!

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  4 роки тому +1

      It is really an under appreciated press!

  • @jmmuench
    @jmmuench 6 років тому +8

    Another great video, Tony! The two powder stands that I purchased from you are an integral part of my reloading process...very pleased with them. Cheers! Joe

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  6 років тому +1

      Thanks for checking in Joe, glad they are still working for you and standing the test of time.

  • @RoostedFilms
    @RoostedFilms 4 роки тому +5

    Thanks for this video. I'm shopping for my first reloading press. I had decided on lee for the value and your video has definitely helped me decide to get the LCT. THANKS AGAIN great video

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  4 роки тому +1

      I have both and I go to the classic 100% That said, I have tested the Value press and it is very capable of making great ammo.

    • @hydroplaneconvoy8130
      @hydroplaneconvoy8130 4 роки тому +1

      Roosted Films - I jumping into reloading too & am going Lee classic turret press. I love these videos

  • @shutthegate8232
    @shutthegate8232 6 років тому +4

    Thanks mate. You've done a great comparison video here. There are a few "what was Lee thinking about", scenario's with the Lee Value Press. It's one thing to drop the quality of a couple things, but some changes look like they impinge on practicality, which has normally been one of Lee's selling points. Value and practical rolled into one.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  6 років тому +2

      Thanks for the comment! Truth is, it isnt as robust as the Classic but I really dont have a bad thing to say about it. It does a great job. For $80-90 dollars its a lot of press.

  • @deadhorse3389
    @deadhorse3389 6 років тому +9

    Great video, i was just explaining to a friend he probably wanted a turret for his first press and i steered him towards the LCT, and your vid came out yesterday at the perfect time and you helped swing him towards the lct, thanks for the good vid, i was wondering all what changed on this new style

  • @vicbrooks6575
    @vicbrooks6575 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks much for a really thorough review. I am newbie and this is the kind of info I've been searching for.

  • @chicagorandy
    @chicagorandy 5 років тому +4

    A reasonable, unbiased review. Almost a rarity these days. Thanks. I've been running the LCT for 8 years or so and LOVE it. I do use their very dependable and consistent Pro Auto Disk on the press. I've also added the great Inline Fabrication case kicker system to speed up output. The "value' press looks to me like NO bargain. Weaker mechanicals, cumbersome and fiddly operation, Over the long haul the cost difference is meaningless.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  5 років тому +1

      I agree, if I was buying, I would get the LCT. That said, I dont have anything bad to say about the Value press. I have used it to load rifle rounds and it makes very consistent and concentric rounds.

  • @vladimirlopez7840
    @vladimirlopez7840 Рік тому +2

    I’ve been using the value press and it’s been great.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  Рік тому

      Its a great press and my go to for pistol loading.

    • @vladimirlopez7840
      @vladimirlopez7840 Рік тому

      @@TreeTopFlier yes that’s exactly what I use it for. Mostly 9mm. I use an RCBS turret press for my rifle loading.

  • @ThecrazyScotsman
    @ThecrazyScotsman 6 років тому +7

    Nice comparison and break down of the two. the primer system looks so much better will need to try that one out for sure old one nothing but a pain in the ass

  • @outwhitu08
    @outwhitu08 5 років тому +7

    Great video ttf, i love my classic turrent, and you did a great video on the classic tune up and maintenance, looks like i need the latest primer dispensers, my large primer has worked great but the small one drops them every not and then, good job, load safe, shoot safe!

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  5 років тому +2

      If you use Lee presses and you prime on the press the new primer levers are a giant leap forward. I have yet to drop a primer with the new versions. Thanks for the nice comments.

  • @mikesttr250
    @mikesttr250 2 роки тому +1

    your video reassured me that i didn't make a mistake purchasing the value press vs. the classic. and i now have a project for my hornady powder measure, ill make some sort of a stand like yours. thankyou!

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  2 роки тому

      I leave it set up for pistol mostly. It will do more but the mechanics and leverage of it seem to favor the smaller cartridges. For me its just a feel thing.

  • @MPGunther1
    @MPGunther1 5 років тому +4

    honest and informative, thank you

  • @handlebullshit
    @handlebullshit 4 роки тому +2

    Turn the handle around. Did that on my Lee pro, made a huge difference.
    I also notched the table to set the press further in.

  • @85waspnest
    @85waspnest 5 років тому +1

    A very helpful review. If the handle strikes the primer dispenser, loosen the handle bolt a little and slide the handle down in the clamp an inch or so for more clearance. I bought a Value turret press this week and find it a pleasure to use compared to my Pro 1000 which is fine when it's running right which it mostly isn't due to hang ups and too many things to watch at the same time.

  • @oldgunowner
    @oldgunowner 3 роки тому +1

    I've never used the new value press but have owned a classic turrent press for many years. After probably 20 thousand of rounds of more, that huge ram,cast iron base and linkage are as tight as when they were new. No one is going to wear out the classic press in their lifetime. Loading both hand and rifle rounds I personally have never found I didn't have enough clearance in fact I think it has more clearance than my rockchucker. It also produces very good quality ammo. The only thing I would change in it is I find that 2 days ago when I loaded 250 rounds of 38 spl I would like to have a roller handle as the ball no longer has any varnish on it and tries to rub a blister in my hand.

  • @mitchellcox2928
    @mitchellcox2928 4 роки тому +1

    like your perspective on the press. gives another aspect to the the press maybe people need to know.

  • @tyemiller6204
    @tyemiller6204 6 років тому +2

    Thank you....very comprehensive comparison....I have had the classic press and love it. I no longer have it, so in the market to replace and I have been looking at the a value press. I only reload 45-70 and 460 Rowland. I love the simplicity of both presses. I’m considering the new breech loader pro press also.

  • @swnorcraft7971
    @swnorcraft7971 4 роки тому

    I use a similar mounting system for my presses. My mounting plate is 1/2" aluminum, the same holes to mount to the bench. I have two places on my bench to mount presses with 3/8" tee nuts. To provide clearance for your primer catch tube, just drill new mounting holes in the base plate 3/4" further in from the existing ones. I have the new BL Pro 4000 progressive press that shares the same base plate and columns as the the value turret. The learning curve is about complete and I think it will work out to be a good purchase....
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @nickl1682
    @nickl1682 6 років тому +4

    As always an great review. I have a turret for about 20 or so .seems like I'll stay with it . Keep up the good work.

  • @KSFWG
    @KSFWG 6 років тому +3

    Excellent video, TreeTop! Since I already have a LCTP, I doubt that I'll get a LVTP. I can see where someone just starting out with a budget to stay within could do very nicely with the LVTP. Thanks for the video!

  • @deckert618
    @deckert618 6 років тому +2

    Great video! I have been debating the merits of both of these presses for a month, and this video just helped me make the decision.
    The offset primer discharge chute on the value press would make for a mounting nightmare on my bench. Gotta spend the extra 30 bucks for the classic.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  6 років тому +1

      Glad this was useful for you. If I was taking the plunge I would go with the classic also. However for the money, the value press is hard to beat and it works great.

  • @TartanJack
    @TartanJack 6 років тому +5

    As always, very informative. So thanks. I know you've fashioned your own base system for changing out presses, but on my Harbor Freight oak workbench I've mounted Lee's bench plate system and use it with my two Lee presses and my Lee bench priming tool I use for rifle rounds. Can't say enough good things about the system. Rock solid, quick to mount and unmount. I have the plate on the far right corner of the bench. So with the Classic Turret I sit slightly to the left of press and that opens up access to the shell holder. I think like you once mentioned, given the current quantities I load, I'll stay with my LCT and not move to a progressive press.

  • @jcm4590
    @jcm4590 6 років тому +5

    Excellent job. I've been wondering what the practical differences are between these two presses.

  • @keepitsimple7402
    @keepitsimple7402 Рік тому +2

    Wow. Great vid, GREAT info...

  • @TartanJack
    @TartanJack 6 років тому +4

    Love your videos. I have a Lee Classic Turret and after thousands of rounds I don't understand why you would ever pay more or need to pay less. That said, I also have a Lee Breech Lock Challenger press I use for decapping and rifle loads. But obviously, I could do those tasks on the turret press. Having dealt with Lee for some replacement parts I can't say enough about them. And I watch UA-cam videos of other presses, including progressive presses, and just don't see any advantage over the production I can do with the LCT.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  6 років тому +1

      I have come full circle. I got the Lee presses because they were economical. I assumed that it was a compromise and you would get better results from the high end, more expensive gear. As my skills progressed I have found that all the things you can quantify in terms of consistency are well withing the range of high quality on the Lee press. The only thing that I think you benefit substantially from in a high precision O frame press is consistent shoulder setback resizing options.

  • @livincincy4498
    @livincincy4498 6 років тому +2

    Thanks for putting this together.

  • @dinohudson1432
    @dinohudson1432 6 років тому +3

    Great Vid dude! I don't own the value press, first time I got to see it up close, w/ a comparison. Thanks.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  6 років тому

      Its a really great press for the money. I have experimented with it and it is capable of producing really concentric ammo.

  • @sethwiles1255
    @sethwiles1255 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you!

  • @echosreloadingchamber7306
    @echosreloadingchamber7306 6 років тому +6

    Very good description of both turret presses. I'm a co-host on a gun channel here on UA-cam and my partner is a big-time reloader and he is recommending that I purchase the Lee classic turret press and sent me a link to your channel which I subscribed. I will be ordering the Lee classic turret press possibly today or tomorrow and some ACT extra turrets and some die sets and everything else that I may need does that new primer loader that you were using on the economy version work on the classic turret press? And any kind of advice you could give me would be great. Thank you, David Wright.

  • @douglasmcneil8413
    @douglasmcneil8413 Рік тому +2

    Prices have gone up since you made this video, but your critique was verry helpful. I've been loading revolver cartridges for a few years now, with a LEE hand press. It works just fine but it can be a slow process. I've been looking at the LCT press for a while but monies always a little tight. I'm thinking this press might be a better fit for my needs and resources.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  Рік тому

      It's a great little press and I actually prefer it for hand gun cartridges. If you think you would like to step up to rifle cartridges I would get the LCT

  • @cmasailor
    @cmasailor 4 роки тому +1

    Glad I bought my classic turret when it was 80bucks... was thinking about getting a second one, perhaps the value version, but not now.

  • @TrueMesa
    @TrueMesa 4 роки тому +2

    Love your videos as always, Just purchased the lee classic turret to upgrade from using the lee md single stage press for a year and a half, started reloading watching your hand press press videos. going to start reloading 223 now and needed something a little sturdier. and this seemed like a good inbetween a progressive and single stage. keep up the vids! still trying to figure out how this whole case and neck lubing thing works with steel dies lol

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  4 роки тому

      Awesome that you started reloading after watching that series. I had to remove those videos because they violated UA-cam terms of service. They are still available at Gunstreamer.com, TheReloadersNetwork.com and UGETube.com under the same handle TreeTopFlier. I cant even link to them because that is what they call "meta data". I can afford other presses but I really like the Lee Classic Turret. I like that it auto advances unlike the Redding T7 etc. and it is fast enough that I can make several hundred rounds in a short time and still just make one at a time. I'm not a high volume shooter so it meets my needs.

    • @TrueMesa
      @TrueMesa 3 роки тому

      @@TreeTopFlier after 11 months of owning the lee value turret I honestly love it ! and it definitely takes a beating. only thing I kinda regret is not buying more turrets before the scare started cant find any for under 50$ lol

  • @lschwaller3503
    @lschwaller3503 6 років тому +2

    Thanks very good explanation

  • @thecainer64
    @thecainer64 4 роки тому +4

    I have always wanted a lee turret press, thanks for the video! One day! I am writing as I am watching and was just about to say I like the increased access because of the shift of the ram to the right. The "roller" like handle I think I would prefer having used the Dillon xl650

  • @billprice6248
    @billprice6248 3 місяці тому +1

    great video

  • @TheReloadingPress
    @TheReloadingPress 6 років тому +3

    Grrrrrreat video TTF. A much needed and appreciated comparison of two very competing presses in Lee's catalog. Its funny that Lee is working to make themselves their biggest competitor. Hmmmmm.
    Thanks man,
    Nathan

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  6 років тому

      I thought about this myself, why make a competing press? I am going to guess that the profit margin is way higher on the Value press than the Classic. It may actually make a lot of sense on their end but Im not sure it makes a lot of sense for the consumer. That said, it runs great, they both do!

    • @oswaldmazzetta396
      @oswaldmazzetta396 6 років тому

      The Reloading Press gs434

  • @steveeber2324
    @steveeber2324 7 місяців тому +2

    The springiness is coming from your wood mounting plate. You can see it bend as you work.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  7 місяців тому +1

      I know what you mean but I often run big cast presses in the same spot on the bench. You can feel the difference in the linkage. It isn't much and it doesn't hurt anything but for some people it might be an irritant. I just try to show my observations. But your right, I do have flex in the bench.

  • @samsungtv4u
    @samsungtv4u 6 років тому +3

    Excellent review

  • @drewt.4353
    @drewt.4353 3 роки тому +1

    Great vid

  • @700Strat
    @700Strat 6 років тому +1

    Enjoyed the vid TTF. Great as always! I am so glad - I Liked, subbed, and clicked the bell a long time ago and averted a tragedy! You cracked me up when you cracked yourself up. Thanks for all you do and a good laugh too. The Stand Family is growing. Lee P offered 1/2 price on the new version of Safety Prime provided I send them the old unit (at my cost) and paid (at my cost) the shipping the new one to me. I just chalked it up as consumable and ordered a new model, discounted w/ free shipping from the BIG A online and called it good.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  6 років тому

      Right! at $24 its hardly worth the postage. Lee should have recalled them IMO.

  • @CROSSFIRE_TACTICS_SOFIA
    @CROSSFIRE_TACTICS_SOFIA 3 роки тому +1

    Great video. Thank you.

  • @survivingchicago5797
    @survivingchicago5797 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for the video.... it helped me a lot!👍

  • @fishrrelaxing9361
    @fishrrelaxing9361 4 роки тому +1

    Just remark about the spring in your bench.. this is a general thought not direct to your case.. as you used real wood top you are now bolting with grain which is where the spring comes from as the grain in the wood itself is flexing.
    For anyone building a purpose built reloading station my advice would be to string your boards front to back so you are cross grain making the boards stiffer.
    Unless you have a full wood shop to joint and plane the lumber the boards are cupped and this only further enhances with grain tension. All of this is solved by changing from a typical cross top design to a front to back arrangement. You can then have plenty of overhangs still if you want depending on the thickness and width of the boards.
    The people running the basic 2x cross beam are most likely using plywood tops and not lumber so they have to have something to support out to the edge or it would just snap off.

  • @ronaldjohnson1474
    @ronaldjohnson1474 6 місяців тому +1

    I prefer the older style 4-hole Value Press with the ball handle.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  6 місяців тому

      I like both handles. Never used the old turret press.

  • @timbernie
    @timbernie 5 років тому +2

    try to find some pictures from 1986. That was my first Lee Turret.......3 dies...no primer catcher.... Linkage used to be pot metal. It broke after 15 yrs.
    Classic is a better.
    This one is new to me...

  • @mholman9711
    @mholman9711 4 роки тому +1

    I went with the value.. Less travel.. If you reloading hand gun cartridges or shorter rifle cases it will make it a little bit easier for you

    • @121AHCRvn
      @121AHCRvn Рік тому

      I agree with you. I only load pistol ammo and prefer the shorter stroke on the Value press. I took off the custom handle it came with and put a Lee classic turret press handle and wood knob on it.

  • @dennisdwyer3266
    @dennisdwyer3266 2 роки тому +1

    The Lee mounting plate does not solve the issue with spent primers. I have Lee plate mounted as instructed, and also on riser mount. Both have that exact same issue.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  2 роки тому

      Thanks for sharing that with everyone.

  • @davespin9034
    @davespin9034 Рік тому +2

    Hi TreeTop, great video.
    I just saw a video of a guy saying why he doesn't use a powder measure mounted on the turret. He states and backs with testing data which shows the vibration from not only the press operations, but the rotation from the turret itself causes the powder to compress some causing inaccurate powder drops. I use the Lee auto drum and get a high or 2/10s grains (@25 grain drop) or a low by 2/10s.
    I wonder of you created your powder measure stand for this reason? And if so, where can one acquire your stands?

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  Рік тому +2

      I created the stand for several reasons. I never liked the weight of the powder measure riding the lee turret press. Its smoother without it. I wanted more consistent throws and dispensing is more accurate with some powders. I used a lot of H110 powder and it leaks from the autodrum pretty bad. I watched his video and his methodology was sound. The only thing I thought was a weak point is he was moving the handle way too fast in his demonstration in both situations. He was speeding way too fast through the drop portion of the rotation. Not sure all the powder was making it out of the metering chamber before he shut it off. Yes I know he did it the same but still.... And yes it could be assumed that the movement of the turret would compress the powder and give a heavier load. Consistency of handling is key.

    • @davespin9034
      @davespin9034 Рік тому +1

      ​@@TreeTopFlier Yes, he did move way too fast, was kinda ridiculous! And the classic turret press uses the auto index which is pretty smooth. And I also agree, the Auto Drum does add some weight. I have been loading .223 using Winchester 748 also I'm not leaking, but will be using the H110 soon with a different caliber.
      Your system is very cool.

  • @dennisdwyer3266
    @dennisdwyer3266 2 роки тому +1

    I have both presses. Classic is easily superior. And where the value press really falls short is decapping and priming. If you are decapping and priming off press, the value line works fine. But if priming on press, and even more decapping on press, seriously consider the classic.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  2 роки тому

      I usually decap on a small press then clean the brass. I tend to load hand gun cartridges on the Value and medium size high volume on cartridges on the classic. I use the on press priming on the value press and it works fine for me. I still drop a primer now and then but its acceptable to me. Thanks for the comment.

  • @williebulletman5217
    @williebulletman5217 6 років тому +1

    Way to great review on both press and yes Kenny is one hell of a guy please keep up your great videos and i’m curious on how much your powder stand would be for the lee the red press sorry I forget the name of it sorry thank you sir

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  6 років тому

      Hi Willie. I am currently charging $69 plus shipping. I got hit with a run before I went on vacation a while back so I am completely out right now. Need to get back into the shop.
      Thanks for the great comment.

  • @rajvader
    @rajvader 5 років тому

    I've used the Classic Turret Press for years. This new Value Press looks like it'd be okay, but kinda' needs a custom lever arm to get the hands away from the primer feed and such.
    Interesting powder towers... I use the Lee Auto Disk powder feeder, which works well for me. I'm guessing yours allows finer adjustment of powder throw? I do sometimes have to compromise between one hole being a little less than I want, and the next being a bit too much.

  • @pareloader5989
    @pareloader5989 3 роки тому +1

    Tree top. I am trying to set up my 223 dies on the lee turret press. What die do you use for a powder through die? I would like to use the funnel method like your set up. Any help would be great.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  3 роки тому +1

      You need an actual powder through die. Lee makes a large and small version for this die. The medium cartridge sizes like the 223 use the smaller one. leeprecision.com/short-charging-die.html

  • @TheRotorhound
    @TheRotorhound 4 роки тому +1

    Very nice comparison. Lee screwed up on the primer tube on this press and the breech lock pro as you have to cut a wedge out of your table to accommodate the tube. Your handle keeps hitting the primer system. I like my classic turret but would not recommend the "value " to anyone.

  • @Stud_muffin
    @Stud_muffin Рік тому +1

    Quick question, I noticed your classic turret press rotates ccw, like mine, most show it turning cw on utube, which allows attaching "auto ejector" on the rod to push round into a bin after crimping. CCW won't allow that. Any idea how to change spin to CW? I thought I might have the collar upside down, but now I think it is the twist of the rod, but no idea how to order 1, I've never seen the replacement rods advertised in 2 flavors. Thnx

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  Рік тому +1

      I've seen what you're talking about years ago, dont remember where. I wana say someone made a kit for it, not sure if its still a thing???

    • @Stud_muffin
      @Stud_muffin Рік тому +1

      @@TreeTopFlier
      I contacted Lee support, but then I saw there is a kit, so I'll buy that if support doesn't sent the "reverse shaft", but I read somewhere they would. Thnx

  • @scubaguy007
    @scubaguy007 4 роки тому +2

    I have a classic press that has that type handle that is on the value press. IT SUCKS! I hated it so much, but I was too cheap to replace it, so I cut it off and epoxied my old eight ball stick shift knob to it.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  4 роки тому

      I prefer just the ball handle also.

  • @Jutilaje
    @Jutilaje 4 роки тому +1

    Bench plate fixed the primer
    Collection tube issue for me

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  4 роки тому +1

      They supposedly changed the ram so the primer tube fits to the bottom like the classic after 2018. Is yours like that or did the plate just give enough clearance?

    • @Jutilaje
      @Jutilaje 4 роки тому

      I've got the new style value press I believe (ordered it direct from Lee around 2 months ago) and the tube still attaches on the back side of the ram. It wasn't a huge issue for me before because the desk it's mounted to isn't that thick, but if I ran the entire stroke it would interfere some. The bench plate didn't really push the press out further on it's own, but it made it so that I didn't need to index the press on the edge of the desk to make it square - the bench plate's holes keep the press square to the plate, and then the plate automatically squares itself up on the mount. So I was able to mount the press a bit further forward with it than without it.

  • @johnpaulsasotona9083
    @johnpaulsasotona9083 5 років тому +2

    Hi,
    What would you recommend for this classic turret press with the following:
    Reloading scale
    Powder measure
    Hand Primer
    They sell the whole kit but Im not sure if the other accessories that come with it are of good quality.
    Thanks!

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  5 років тому +1

      To really take advantage of the function of the press, it can be useful to preform most of the functions on the press. I like to prime on press, and the new lee safety prime levers are awesome. The lee autodrum powder measure is also very good. The Lee modern reloading is a good book as a starting point. The lee powder scale is functional but a little too fiddly IMO. I like having a mechanical scale but if I was buying my first it would be the Lyman electronic micro 1500 scale. The kit is not a bad idea. But you can shop the press and the three items I mentioned purchased individually and save some coin. You may want to check out my minimalist reloading series if your just getting started.

    • @johnpaulsasotona9083
      @johnpaulsasotona9083 5 років тому +1

      The Kit is not too bad after all. I actually watch your videos and got started on reloading with your minimalist series. I have the handpress right now and some dies. I only use the scooper. Good thing theres load data for the scooper that came with the dies i bought.
      Now I’m looking to reload more in a much faster rate. Currently I am loading with the handpress at about 40 rounds/hr. I do not want to take all day anymore haha.
      Thanks for the tips! Really great content as well.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  5 років тому +2

      @@johnpaulsasotona9083 Oh thats great. I would still get an electronic scale, the Lee beam scale is OK. I like to use both scales to validate each other. The thing with the dippers is as long as your using the powder that is called for your ok. But they wont work for many other pistol powders. Stay safe.

    • @johnsavchak8202
      @johnsavchak8202 5 років тому +1

      I bought the Lee Classic kit and use none of the kits extra bits!

  • @otunca
    @otunca 3 роки тому

    I like that bracket for powder drop. Can you give more info about how to make it or where to get it from? THX

  • @carnutal
    @carnutal 5 років тому +3

    Why buy the Lee Value Press when the classic press is only $5 more. You get a lot more press with the Classic. I don't know why Lee keeps selling the Value Press at that little price difference on Amazon on 11/18.

    • @Pabcio
      @Pabcio 5 років тому +1

      Here in Poland difference is bigger 564 zł to 750 zł so Value Turret is about 25% cheaper. Still I'm not sure if it's worth to buy cheaper one when you buy press for a looong time, maybe whole life.

  • @ironblader
    @ironblader 5 років тому

    nice vid! whats the max. rifle caliber? the old one can produce up to .338 WinMag

  • @andrefazanaro
    @andrefazanaro 6 років тому +1

    If you use a wood as base just cut a hole like “U” and will fit the ram guide and will provide a firmer base allowing the press to advance forward covering the whole area of ​​the press base just like this: i.imgur.com/W2fucvn.jpg

  • @SuperMANTHER
    @SuperMANTHER Рік тому +1

    What is the powder dump situation you have there?

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  Рік тому

      Sorry Im not making these anymore. I made hundreds of them in my garage but it got to be too much. The final nail in the coffin was the Biden administration requiring tax id information for PayPal and other payment services. I have no problem paying taxes but I am not in a situation where I can itemize so I would eat all costs as profit. I have no desire to start a business at this time to keep from paying taxes on costs. Thanks for your interest though. I have a video on the channel I left of so people could figure out their own version.

  • @SignorAckerman
    @SignorAckerman 5 років тому

    Sorry i am italian and i don't understand spoken English. Could you write me which one is the best? What are the differences?

  • @skafazzation666
    @skafazzation666 4 роки тому

    This video is very good in terms of engineering comparative analisys, however personally I was hoping that the video would focus on whether either of them makes super high quality reloads and what features makes life easier, etc. :)
    I am trying to choose my first press! So I'm looking for the best setup to switch calibers with maximum ease, quality and minimum expense.

  • @briankeithwood
    @briankeithwood 6 років тому +1

    Thinking about reloading... but I have a 300 win mag. Will both handle a large case like that?
    Is there a better option?

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  6 років тому +1

      Just looking at the book win mag max is about 3.5".... The value press has about 3.5" clearance and the LCT is close to 4" Those should handle most mag cartridges.

  • @maximusjoseppi5904
    @maximusjoseppi5904 6 років тому +1

    How often do you have to clean the primer pocket? I see that you didn't need to do that step

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  6 років тому

      "have to" I would say never. Your rounds will work just fine if you clean or not. If you are shooting for accuracy reducing irregularities is a key to accuracy, so most folks are going to uniform the primer pocket so cleaning would be a part of that.

    • @maximusjoseppi5904
      @maximusjoseppi5904 6 років тому

      @@TreeTopFlier oh perfect, thanks for the advice

  • @lonewanderer3603
    @lonewanderer3603 5 років тому

    As of January 2019, the difference between the 2 is only $20 at TITAN Reloading. Not sure why anybody would choose the value turret.

  • @slotcarfan
    @slotcarfan 3 роки тому

    Coudn't you brace the end of the table with with 2x4 under the lip the width of the side of the table top, and remove your metal brace under the front edge? i think overall you would get less press movement due to more effective bench bracing and less flexing, and solve your primer tube clearance issue. I did that to my value turret mounting and really happy with the press.

  • @nyanks15
    @nyanks15 3 роки тому

    How do I order one of your powder arm device

  • @TheBleachfan123456
    @TheBleachfan123456 4 роки тому

    Just purchased this for $20 on amazon. Probably going to be a dedicated 38 special press.

  • @YTBEN1045
    @YTBEN1045 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the video. How did you mount the powder dispenser?

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  4 роки тому

      Not sure exactly what your asking but. The powder measure is mounted in stands I designed and built. They use the press mounting hardware to mount to the bench so they do not take up any room. Check instagram for #TTFpowderstand or the video in the pinned comment if you want to know more.

    • @YTBEN1045
      @YTBEN1045 4 роки тому

      @@TreeTopFlier oh now I see....it's the powder stand. Thanks!

  • @deadhorse3389
    @deadhorse3389 4 роки тому

    If you were loading precision rounds with lets say 6.5 creed or 308 etc what press is making more consistent ammo with less runout and less COL differences?

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  4 роки тому

      I have to be honest. I have loaded perfect rounds on the Value turret press. There is so much hype about quality, cost and presses. Overtime I have come to believe that presses all do the same thing. As long as the angles are square (90deg) and aligned, Its hard to tell one press from another. Most of your Col variation is in the bullet ogive. Your die push pin has an inverted cone that fits the bullet, so variations in depth are usually because of variance in how the die fits the bullet. Since the die push pin stays the same, variance is mostly caused by irregularity in the bullet. All this assuming the ram stops in a repeatable position, which is usually the case. The other variable attributed to the press is concentricity. But again, as long as the press runs square, the source of concentricity is more about the die and even the brass itself. There are things that make a great press. Access, Leverage, smoothness, are all things that can be attributed to a quality press. So to answer your question. I think both presses are capable of making great ammo. I think the Classic is more pleasurable to use, since it feels tighter and smoother but those are things that do not effect quality of ammo.

    • @deadhorse3389
      @deadhorse3389 4 роки тому

      @@TreeTopFlier Great explanation, thank you, I have a challenger and loadmaster and auto breech lock pro, I still want a turret and was thinking about if there was any real advantage or quality in ammo produced over the older classic cast, but you convinced me the classic cast is worth the extra money just on feel alone,

  • @GunFunZS
    @GunFunZS 6 років тому +1

    One question that I would want to know is how long a shell and projectile it will take. With the older 4 hole turret version, they had identical looking models. However the "value" version was about 3/4" shorter. I don't think this saved a meaningful length of stroke for speeding up pistol ammo, but it was enough that loading 308 allows the next die to strike the bullet as the turret indexes. The only solution is to sort of shuffle the bullet up into the seating die rather than place it on top of the cartridge. What a nuisance. I would steer everyone away from the short version.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  6 років тому

      It has about 3/8" less than the LCT. It is probably right at the limit for 300 win mag.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  6 років тому

      From the web site "Large enough to handle monster belted magnum rifle cases"

    • @GunFunZS
      @GunFunZS 6 років тому +1

      with the bullet on top and not yet seated?

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  6 років тому +2

      I put the largest case I have (7.5 X 55 Swiss) with a 170 gr spire point resting on top in the shell holder and still had about 1/2" clearance to the seating die. Best I can report.

  • @kurtzulauf
    @kurtzulauf 4 роки тому

    Have you tried doing rifle rounds like 223/556? Just wondering I hear sometimes that it works great for pistol rounds but no so much with rifle? Great video! Thanks

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  4 роки тому +1

      Yes, as a matter of fact, I loaded up some 223 on the Value press after I did this video and they were near perfect concentric and the overall length was +- .002 or so. There are a lot of factors that go into getting a uniform round but I proved to myself that this press was capable of doing its part.

  • @ryanconner2912
    @ryanconner2912 5 років тому +1

    What ia the die called that is used with the powder funnel?

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  5 років тому +1

      The die in the video is the lee 9mm powder through/expander die, it comes in most of the Lee kits. For rifle you would use a Lee small or large rifle charge die.

  • @mvidalsilva
    @mvidalsilva 3 роки тому

    LCT all the way

  • @johnj.bennette1914
    @johnj.bennette1914 2 роки тому +1

    I'll stick with my classic turrent.

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  2 роки тому

      If I only had one it would be the classic. That said I enjoy loading pistol rounds on the value press. It's very ergonomic for me.

  • @pedrofelizardo4393
    @pedrofelizardo4393 Рік тому

    I'm Brazilian, and I had difficulties to understand some things. Congratulations, can anyone tell me the difference between these 2 presses in the video for the 2001 model, which looks like a combination of the 2 presses. 90496
    ---
    Eu sou Brasileiro, e tive dificuldades pra entende algumas coisas. Parabéns, alguém consegue me informar a diferença dessas 2 prensas do video para a modelo do ano de 2001, que parece a junção das 2 prensas. #90496

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  Рік тому

      The 90496 was an early version of both of these presses. the base was aluminum instead of steel. Its obsolete now

  • @bigsean2473
    @bigsean2473 6 років тому

    run the tube threw the opening in the handle on the front side

  • @jadmjt14
    @jadmjt14 3 роки тому

    I love watching this in 2021 where they cost $100 more for the same models and no changes to said models

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  3 роки тому

      I know, crazy right? I was looking for a little $40 C press from Lee.... holy smokes those babies are expensive! Crazy times.

    • @jadmjt14
      @jadmjt14 3 роки тому

      @@TreeTopFlier decided to bite the bullet on a load master from titan they have it the cheapest. seems well reviewed and supported if youre interested but its a little heavy on the wallet

  • @o2wow
    @o2wow 6 років тому +2

    Is the mounting bolt pattern the same?

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  6 років тому +2

      The mount bolt pattern is different and not symmetrical. It does fit the Lee bench plate so it may be a pattern they used already or planned for.

    • @o2wow
      @o2wow 6 років тому

      Great to know, thank you very much. I mount my presses to aluminum plates that I bolt to my bench using T-nuts. I'll just make another mounting plate for this press. Thanks again for the detailed explanation of the new press.

  • @squeezeracer
    @squeezeracer 4 роки тому

    Lee says the Classic Press is for handguns and rifles, whereas the Value Press is more for handguns.

  • @gregs5295
    @gregs5295 5 років тому

    You should try lymans brass smith turret press you’d ditch these lees

  • @wcoxy2003
    @wcoxy2003 5 років тому

    im interested in that powder charging mount. where can i get one?

  • @garyjohns5817
    @garyjohns5817 6 років тому

    the old pro 1000 is so much faster and easier to use !

  • @MrMJD1978
    @MrMJD1978 5 років тому

    Lee should remove the cheap one from the market. 50€ difference doesn’t justify the saving...I believe.

  • @fitzymagee7469
    @fitzymagee7469 Рік тому

    Bad engineering on your part with the value press primer issue

  • @archangel20031
    @archangel20031 5 років тому

    That primer junk is a P.I.T.A. to operate.
    Yes, I got it to work but it was not fun.
    Resizing, knocking out he old primer then Hand priming before loading is the only way I can see to go.

  • @338lapuaLRS
    @338lapuaLRS 11 місяців тому +1

    You still selling the powder dispenser

    • @TreeTopFlier
      @TreeTopFlier  11 місяців тому

      No, this ran its course. I couldnt continue this as a hobby because of new paypal rules from the administration. And I really couldnt continue to build these in my garage. I would need to move to a shop and start create an actual business. So, hundreds later, I scrapped the whole thing. It was always a labor of love. Sorry, it really is an awesome accessory.