My HGV Training Episode 7 - Learning Points Vol 2
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- This is the second video following on with the learning points I think are important from my Class 2 HGV training.
0:00 - Start
0:09 - 9 A little different
1:00 - 10 I question something
2:56 - 11 Is anyone to my right?
3:44 - 12 Shuffle room
6:39 - 13 Round and round
8:09 - 14 Eco
9:05 - 15 Generally nearside
10:31 - 16 Straight line a roundabout
13:04 - 17 Motorway roundabout and emerge
15:43 - 18 First bit of motorway
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Nice job on clip 9, giving lots of space for the other heavies to sort themselves out. Wish some car drivers would do the same, rather than just barrelling through.
On the follow-through checks, another reason is that if there actually was a collision (or other incident caused e.g. by wind buffeting), then you might not even feel it, due to the mass of your vehicle. Don't want to be accused of failing to stop at the scene of an incident.
On the steering around roundabouts (and similar), the instructor is talking about you needing to put the cab 1m away, but this depends on the tightness of the curve and the length of the vehicle. My instructor's line was "Your mirrors tell you when to steer".
Who would expect that two instructors in a cab together would produce that much interesting conversation? Love the work Ash, keep at it!
My thinking around stopping at least a car length away from the stop line also includes protection against rear-end collisions. If you see from your mirror that someone is approachign from behind quickly, you can utilize the safe space. Also, if you do happen to be hit from behind your car won't extend into a pedestrian crossing or the intersection if you leave more space
There’s nothing you need to learn about road craft, just need to apply it to the larger vehicle. Watching you do so is a joy to behold.
Really enjoying these, thanks. A great insight which will hopefully help us give more consideration and space for lorry drivers.
Yeah I think that's an excellent safety conscious idea to creep to let those behind know your definitely not parking and intending to move
As to straight lining roundabouts. I was taught to at least attempt to go around even though you can’t make it fully. Mainly because of there being a slight off camber to a lot of mini roundabouts and the larger HGV cutable ones. I followed a learner bus driver the other day and we came to a mini roundabout and he didn’t even turn the wheel, just went straight over, I made the roundabout with ease in my 18tonner. Some instructors, I feel are not trying had enough.
I’m surprised how much isn’t done these days. I learned in a manual, no automatics in those days. We had to do a gear change exercise. Would’ve loved to see you do it.
Enjoying the series, learning a lot from you two throwing information at each other. Keep it up. Looking forward to your test.
Brilliant videos. Very helpful
Good to see you willing to learn a new skill.
Enjoyed it. Thanks. 👍🥳
Thankyou for these videos, I begin my practical learning in the morning and my test is on the 30th. I'm a little nervous though because I believe I am driving on roads I have never been on before. Wish me luck!
Point 10, also worth saying, even though you can't do anything about it once you've passed, you'll notice if any damage was done, and will be able to stop and deal with the situation.
Excellent point!
Yes! I know someone who got hit by a lot without the driver noticing
@Seberous Exactly this. Even though suggested in the video, very unrealistic to think that you could do anything as you were passing - but you certainly want to know whether anybody/thing has been affected by you passing them. A good example would be a cyclist - much more likely in an HGV to blow someone on a bike off course or into a drain cover/pothole. Or pedestrians on a path close to the road, just to make sure nothing off the truck has clipped them on the way past.
just a reminder, it's not the throttle that wastes fuel, it's the brake pedal. and in fact, if more throttle starting out gets you through the gears faster, then spending a pint to save a quart is a good bargain.
Brilliant mate!
Hi Ashley really enjoying the lorry series would love to learn to drive a lorry but not sure if I'd want to drive the things as a job especially around towns, parking the bloody things would be a nightmare then add the time constraints, working hours and the lack of any decent places to eat and piss fook that for a game of soldiers..
As for your comment about straight lining a roundabout and then having to change our plan to suit an examiner, I wonder if you the operator was to verbally comment their intention and why before perfoming the manoeuvre would that not satisfy the examiner you're not potentially doing anything wrong.
Great video a bit shouty but a minor criticism given you're trying to juggle so much and provide a video for us thank-you for doing this, it really is first class and so well done..
All driving is about making decisions, and there are only two decisions you can make, ie, the right one or the wrong one!
I like to give an indicator to warn of my intentions then cancel them just a split second before the manoeuvre so the signal doesn't lead to confusion especially with another signal I intend to make immediately afterwards.
When I go around roundabouts I always got tought not to stare into the right mirror and that u should look in the left mirror every 2 to 3 seconds incase a car is being stupid, I've noticed your instructor hasn't really said that
Did you get any driver faults on your hgv test ?
Ashley - Quick Q - What's your motivation behind taking class 2 training?
Professional development 👍🏼
Loving the running commentary whilst you was driving, was that something you did off your own back or did your instructor ask you to do that?
It was off my own back Neil 👍🏼
@@ashley_neal He's probably never taught a pupil like you Ashley! 🤣
Hey Ashley, I'm wondering if you can help me with this:
Am I allowed to train to be a driving instructor if I haven't had a licence for 3 years yet?
Might be a bit of a stupid question but I'm asking out of curiosity.
I know by law I need a licence for 3 years, and I only passed my test 3 months ago (roughly), but am I allowed to *train* but not actually take a test for a while (if that makes sense)? I'm 26 so well over 18. It'd just until I'm ready to take the theory test and go through all 3 stages, I would just like a head start ideally.
Thanks
You cannot become an approved driving instructor (ADI) until you've had a full licence for 3 years or more this includes any training. You're not permitted to instruct anyone behind the wheel in a paid or volunteery capacity until you have passed the 3 years. No driving school will allow you to train until you meet all the criteria for passing the test.
This must be hell for the instructor as other instructors are generally a nightmare to teach, even in this video i felt like telling ashley to "Shut UP!!", you are meant to be learning but i guess it's hard to take instruction when you spend so much of the day giving it hee hee
If an examiner faults you for going straight across an empty roundabout as you did surely there's no point in discussing it as they've already marked it. You said you would ask how many roundabouts did you do that on. Has any examiner changed their mind after being challenged by a student whether right or wrong?
One possible way round it is explaining on approach to the next empty roundabout, examiners don't know what your thinking unless like giving a running commentary on an advanced test.
Ashley I think your going into class 1 then maybe hgv training am I correct
Who was teaching who ? Learnt loads there Ashley, all you need now is a Yorkie Bar lol👍
cant hear the instructure 😕
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Remember when leaving space at lights however practical you believe it to be as a HGV driver most if not all other road users will abuse any space you leave as they're generally incompetent and feel the overwhelming need to be in front of the lorry not behind
I don't want to jinx you but the way you're driving I'd be very surprised if you don't pass the test.
He did
Spoiler alert . He passed first time . Not surprisingly either
How do you know he passed? He's only just posted the videos of him in training. Did I miss a video or something?
@@CraigNiel he posted a picture a while ago of him holding his pass certificate in front of the wagon.
@@dennisphoenix1 Ahh right, cheers.
1st again
Darn it Keith! But just as I thought. Congrats again
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