I imagine after Missy regenerated, the Master went to Gallifrey planning to start fresh. Maybe even to help the Doctor. Then he found something that broke him.
that's for sure one way I can see it happening! There's also the idea that Sacha's Master isn't right after Missy, could be many regenerations later, allowing for the things to go south again. OR, that Sacha's Master is actually before Missy. Or even that they are the same Master, split in 2, one totally evil, and one with goodness. That after Simms regenerated, either into Missy, or into Sacha, or another unknown version, they returned to Gallifrey and found out about the Timeless Child, and it caused them to be so enraged, that the Master rid themselves of any remaining good, and as a result, split into two beings, Sacha's Master (completely evil), and Missy (somewhat good). It probably sounds stupid, but I think it makes sense.
Chrystalis Revival actually Missy’s regeneration became good and spent her life foiling the Master’s plans, until eventually Missy killed her regeneration, turning into Sacha’s Master
I agree. I love the quote from Capaldi's doctor, explaining how the timelords don't need or worry about genders. They love eachother for who they are. Like everyone should.
I never ship the doctor and the master before. 13 and the master chemistry just fantastic I like the pain in their eyes I would like to see their relationship grow.
the fact that the Doctor wants to try to help the Master no matter how much damage they have done over the year the Doctor will never give up on The Master. Shows how much their friendship matters to The Doctor.
True. But to be fair, it'd be like how you'd help your friend even after a bad day... the doctor and the master have spent thousands of years being friends... even tho they're sometimes on opposite sides. They're always the one person that the other can rely on. Especially for the doctor, imagine how many people they've lost, and the master always comes back for them.
i felt the chemistry between 13 and dhawan!master and now i really want to scourge for more doctor and master stuff because damn they got emotional baggage and secret yearning for the other to join them and just---- OH YES
I kind of think that the master didn't destory The time Lords because he was lied to, I think he did it because of the Doctor because of the torture the doctor was subjected to but he knew the doctor would blame herself if he revealed the truth so he lied, he said he destroyed gallifrey because he was lied to. His destroying gallifrey was basically his love letter to the Doctor.
(Copy-pasting my other comment so I don't have to retype it all): this is honestly my favourite headcanon too. i honestly think it wasn't a case of the master feeling abandoned (well, at least not fully) but that the spymaster genuinely tried so hard to be good, they went back to their home planet in an effort to reconnect with who they once were, but when they were just (semi-)innocently exploring the matrix and their history with the doctor he noticed something was off. then he learned that their culture (and all the pride he had in his heritage) was built on the torture and repeated murders of their best enemy and went apeshit, and knew there was no coming back from that - at least not in the eyes of the very person he did all of it for - so why not embrace their actions? (either that or the spymaster is the third master, or at least one of the earlier versions, which is why missy says "i knew him since he was a little girl")
This is quite a remarkable tribute to these life-long frenemies. Reminds me a lot of Margarita's Life "Stand With Me". With Chibnall, his inclusion of one of the most powerful scenes of Doctor Who ever, the unshot scene of "P.S.", gives me high hopes that we'll see even more of the ever evolving complexities in the O-Master & 13 relationship going into series 13. I've also had a personal head canon, forever, that I think they were lovers at one point. That's why they can't get over each other.
Thank you so much. I love that edit, and the channel. Also, they could have been lovers at one point. Although, I recon that they are just really good friends. And don't have labels for each other. They aren't, best friends, or enemies. They are just the doctor and the master. They'll be there when the other is in danger, and they will be there when the other needs them.
Missy deserved so much better because she really was trying and as much as I love 13 and the O Master's chemistry the fact they confirmed off screen that hes post Missy is heartbreaking. All that development wiped away instead of being built upon
The Master is a very complex character, he was never going to be just good, the same with the Doctor, there are incarnations like Jodie and Davison who are happy go lucky sometimes and then there are those like Capaldi and the two Bakers, who are borderline crazy and seriously, sometimes very silly. That's what we have to understand, no one characteristic is going to stick when it comes to a Timelord, even within the same incarnation, so I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of Series 13, the 13th Doctor is all serious, filled with rage and murderous, especially with the twists and turns they are promising this season, it's all very much still within character, that's who the doctor is, fun, crazy, happy, silly, angry, serious, scary, fuelled by rage, all of it is the Doctor, and at any stage in their lives, they will portray all these different sides, so I feel sorry for the people who might feel that Jodie is not a good Doctor, because she is and her storylines have just added to the richness of the show, and as someone who has been watching the show for over 40yrs, I'm glad that she is The Doctor and I'm sure she still has a great deal to show us. I'm grateful to her and to Chris, because they are people not afraid to take risks, even with the disapproval of many and that is something I will always respect and cherish. I respect everyone's opinion but some are just in denial of the fact that they're biased over everything in this era, so they hide behind accusations of bad writing and whatnot, but that's not the case, there are worse episodes in all of who history than most of what Chibnall has done and we know it, worse decisions were made in previous eras that most people choose not to see, than there are in this current era. Nothing is ever going to be perfect in Doctor Who that's part of the reason why I love it and trust me when I say that this show wouldn't have survived this long if it didn't have people like Chibnall who are willing to take risks, he's a great writer, I don't care what anyone else says, and as a fellow writer, I know all the struggles that go into all of that. I look forward to what comes next, and no matter what, I'll always love this show
Thank you. And me too. They've been through so much. And at the end of the day, if one of them desperately needs saving, the other one will be there for them. That's what I love about them!!
Oh I love Missy all the progress she made only to get shot by herself (himself?), she would have stood with the Doctor and that would have been beautiful. But the Doctor doesn't know, she was coming back for him.
Controversial opinion I love The Timeless Children and Sacha Dhawan's Master... let you know if I get I really like the Chibnall era in general. there it is, there's your a controversial opinion Awesome video by the way
Well thank you so much! And I have mixed feelings over the episode. Take out some parts of the episode, mostly the part about the timeless child being the doctor, and I think it was great. I also love Dhawan's master!!! I think having Rassilon as the timeless child could've been a better choice - considering he's known for immortality!!
I actually really like series 11 and 12 too! Equally controversial opinion, I like that the Doctor is the Timeless Child. I think next season is going to talk about the theory more but it makes sense to me because of how different he/she is from the rest of the Time Lords. Plus it's canon so we can't really change it. I also think that the Master stole regeneration energy from Gallifrey before he destroyed it.
All the actors who've played the Master have been top notch. It's close, and I think Simm and Darwan are excellent, but IMO Gomez just takes it to another level
shame on you, you made me cry with this video and my heart.... amazing video, the best edit, overall the best there is. subscribe to u cause of this. keep going mate. this video brings joy to my heart
The last time we saw the master with the 10th doctor the master was saving the doctor, the last we saw of missy she was helping the doctor, I wonder if the new master will do the same or will he be too far gone
Yehhhhh. I just wish, even though theyve denied it off camera, that Sasha's Master is before Missy. Coz all that progress went away. I want a season with The Master as the doctors companion and they defeat the dalek's and stuff. 😩
Yehh. I'm so glad they're back together. But so sad that Missy's change was for nothing.. THEY WERE SO CLOSE TO BEING BESTIES AGAIN .. but it's what I love about them!! 😭
Thank you so much!! And I have just been inspired by other editors, and if you have a look through my channel, you''ll notice I have made a lot of edits to get me to where I am. :D
Forget the shipping. Missy was right - things like love and romanticism... they aren't adequate to explain the Doctor and the Master. This is... something. No. This is Something - Something that is older than anything we know, marred by tragedy and monstrosities alike. Friendship is perhaps the closest word, because the human languages don't have another that sums up this Something. To give it labels like Love demeans it, because this is far purer, far more rare than something so simple. Missy said it best: no matter what, it would always end one way, where they were always going, even if it was the long way around - the Doctor and the Master would stand together, even against the whole of the universe.
Same, except I'm glad that they landed. I think Missy had a perfect end to her run as the character, and bringing back Simm's master was wonderful. I just wish that they had an extra season before them two episodes!!
I know. She just cared so much about her "fam" that she forgot that the master is her childhood bestie, that could easily have done whatever he wanted. He didn't even need to show her that, he could've just invaded another planet. But he wanted her to know and she spat it back at him in his face. :(
Yehhhh. But if you think about it. It's just the Master's methods of letting the doctor know that he/she is alright. And that he/she wants to see the doctor. Normal isn't enough for the master.
@@Traxedits but it's different now. The Master went too far to be forgiven, too far for his sins to be forgotten. He destroyed their home planet, he undid the Doctor's greatest achievement only because he wanted to break her. That's not something the Doctor can simply accept. He must be stopped, this "game" must end.
@@thetwelfthdoctor9892 The way I see it, the Doctor may never know that Missy was going to stand with them, and yet, Dhawan!Master does. I don't think the Master went to Gallifrey and destroyed it to undo the Doctor's greatest achievement, it doesn't fit, the two do genuinely care about each other, trying to kill each other is how they let the other know they're still alive and kicking so I think the Master went to Gallifrey and saw all of that in the matrix and realised his best friend, the Sherlock to his Moriarty was tortured for years, and everything on that planet is because the Doctor suffered, the Master exists because the Doctor suffered. and I think that broke him, the Master has been free of the drums for what a regeneration and a bit? but that was torture, mental torture but still torture. The Time Lords planted it there as a beacon when the Master was a child and that just fucked with his head. But they did so much more than that to the Doctor, they killed her again and again and again to experiment on her and get what they wanted. I think the Master destroyed Gallifrey for the Doctor. Also, if you watch 'the timeless children' again, the Master who comes back from the dead again and again, a character who is seemingly only scared of death, who has stolen regenerations so he can live longer wanted the Doctor to kill him, to actually permanently kill him, to destroy every molecule of him. I don't think it was guilt for destroying Gallifrey, I think it was guilt about being created from her pain, guilt from the horror show that the Doctor went through, and he wanted it over to free her from that pain in some way, sure what the Master did was cruel but I think there was some twisted form of good intentions behind it. He says "the history between us does mean something, it's the rage and pain in my hearts", so yeah, I think he did all of that for her, following his twisted logic of 'the Doctor's been hurt and I can't stop that from happening but I can avenge her.' I don't know if that makes sense but basically TLDR I don't think the Master wanted to break the Doctor I think he wanted to free her of the torture she experienced as a child.
I imagine after Missy regenerated, the Master went to Gallifrey planning to start fresh. Maybe even to help the Doctor. Then he found something that broke him.
My baby. 😭😭💚
@@Traxedits 😭😭💙💙
Yes...I imagine that as well.
that's for sure one way I can see it happening! There's also the idea that Sacha's Master isn't right after Missy, could be many regenerations later, allowing for the things to go south again. OR, that Sacha's Master is actually before Missy. Or even that they are the same Master, split in 2, one totally evil, and one with goodness. That after Simms regenerated, either into Missy, or into Sacha, or another unknown version, they returned to Gallifrey and found out about the Timeless Child, and it caused them to be so enraged, that the Master rid themselves of any remaining good, and as a result, split into two beings, Sacha's Master (completely evil), and Missy (somewhat good). It probably sounds stupid, but I think it makes sense.
Chrystalis Revival actually Missy’s regeneration became good and spent her life foiling the Master’s plans, until eventually Missy killed her regeneration, turning into Sacha’s Master
i ship them forever no matter they are women or men 🙌 their relationship is just amazing and beyond gender, space n time
I agree. I love the quote from Capaldi's doctor, explaining how the timelords don't need or worry about genders. They love eachother for who they are. Like everyone should.
Thanks, I wanted to write that too😂
Long lives Doctor x Master😁
I never ship the doctor and the master before. 13 and the master chemistry just fantastic
I like the pain in their eyes I would like to see their relationship grow.
I love all the relationships between the doctor and master. But I agree, their chemistry is amazing. 💚
Same! Never shipped it before but 13 and her master are amazing
Same!!
the fact that the Doctor wants to try to help the Master no matter how much damage they have done over the year the Doctor will never give up on The Master.
Shows how much their friendship matters to The Doctor.
True. But to be fair, it'd be like how you'd help your friend even after a bad day... the doctor and the master have spent thousands of years being friends... even tho they're sometimes on opposite sides. They're always the one person that the other can rely on. Especially for the doctor, imagine how many people they've lost, and the master always comes back for them.
i felt the chemistry between 13 and dhawan!master and now i really want to scourge for more doctor and master stuff because damn they got emotional baggage and secret yearning for the other to join them and just---- OH YES
I agree. Even though I don't like the new doctor all that much, blames the writing, their chemistry is uncanny.
Still breaks my heart that The Doctor will never know Missy decided to stand with him and do good and he never will know 😢
I KNOW!!! DONT REMIND ME!!!! 😭 I hope they find out in the future!
@@Traxedits Me too!
"Without hope, without witness, without reward... I am your friend."
This shows how unique their relationship is: they are both best friends and deadly enemies at the same time.
I kind of think that the master didn't destory The time Lords because he was lied to, I think he did it because of the Doctor because of the torture the doctor was subjected to but he knew the doctor would blame herself if he revealed the truth so he lied, he said he destroyed gallifrey because he was lied to. His destroying gallifrey was basically his love letter to the Doctor.
I can agree with that. I think it's a mix, I'm sure he did want to destroy Galifrey for both reasons. It's very mastery.... I like it.
(Copy-pasting my other comment so I don't have to retype it all): this is honestly my favourite headcanon too. i honestly think it wasn't a case of the master feeling abandoned (well, at least not fully) but that the spymaster genuinely tried so hard to be good, they went back to their home planet in an effort to reconnect with who they once were, but when they were just (semi-)innocently exploring the matrix and their history with the doctor he noticed something was off. then he learned that their culture (and all the pride he had in his heritage) was built on the torture and repeated murders of their best enemy and went apeshit, and knew there was no coming back from that - at least not in the eyes of the very person he did all of it for - so why not embrace their actions?
(either that or the spymaster is the third master, or at least one of the earlier versions, which is why missy says "i knew him since he was a little girl")
This edit is so beautiful and brilliant i can’t even say
Thank you so much!!! 💚💚
this friendship makes me cry
Me too. They're so good together. 😭💚
@@Traxedits 😭😭😭❤💔💔
This is quite a remarkable tribute to these life-long frenemies. Reminds me a lot of Margarita's Life "Stand With Me".
With Chibnall, his inclusion of one of the most powerful scenes of Doctor Who ever, the unshot scene of "P.S.", gives me high hopes that we'll see even more of the ever evolving complexities in the O-Master & 13 relationship going into series 13.
I've also had a personal head canon, forever, that I think they were lovers at one point. That's why they can't get over each other.
Thank you so much. I love that edit, and the channel.
Also, they could have been lovers at one point. Although, I recon that they are just really good friends. And don't have labels for each other. They aren't, best friends, or enemies. They are just the doctor and the master. They'll be there when the other is in danger, and they will be there when the other needs them.
The Master just needs some love. And he'll get that from The Doctor. Also brilliant edit btw💖💖
Yes he would. Also thank you so much. 💚
Missy deserved so much better because she really was trying and as much as I love 13 and the O Master's chemistry the fact they confirmed off screen that hes post Missy is heartbreaking. All that development wiped away instead of being built upon
I know. It hurts so much. They were so close to doing the impossible. And it's all gone now. 😭
The Master is a very complex character, he was never going to be just good, the same with the Doctor, there are incarnations like Jodie and Davison who are happy go lucky sometimes and then there are those like Capaldi and the two Bakers, who are borderline crazy and seriously, sometimes very silly. That's what we have to understand, no one characteristic is going to stick when it comes to a Timelord, even within the same incarnation, so I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of Series 13, the 13th Doctor is all serious, filled with rage and murderous, especially with the twists and turns they are promising this season, it's all very much still within character, that's who the doctor is, fun, crazy, happy, silly, angry, serious, scary, fuelled by rage, all of it is the Doctor, and at any stage in their lives, they will portray all these different sides, so I feel sorry for the people who might feel that Jodie is not a good Doctor, because she is and her storylines have just added to the richness of the show, and as someone who has been watching the show for over 40yrs, I'm glad that she is The Doctor and I'm sure she still has a great deal to show us. I'm grateful to her and to Chris, because they are people not afraid to take risks, even with the disapproval of many and that is something I will always respect and cherish. I respect everyone's opinion but some are just in denial of the fact that they're biased over everything in this era, so they hide behind accusations of bad writing and whatnot, but that's not the case, there are worse episodes in all of who history than most of what Chibnall has done and we know it, worse decisions were made in previous eras that most people choose not to see, than there are in this current era. Nothing is ever going to be perfect in Doctor Who that's part of the reason why I love it and trust me when I say that this show wouldn't have survived this long if it didn't have people like Chibnall who are willing to take risks, he's a great writer, I don't care what anyone else says, and as a fellow writer, I know all the struggles that go into all of that. I look forward to what comes next, and no matter what, I'll always love this show
Amazing 👏.
Those many parellel scenes.
I love these two best enemies so much.
Thank you. And me too. They've been through so much. And at the end of the day, if one of them desperately needs saving, the other one will be there for them. That's what I love about them!!
Amazing. I love them both so much
Me too. So so much.
I would actually die to see Thoschei canonized
Same!!
@@Traxedits Who's your favorite Doctor/Master pairing?
Oh I love Missy all the progress she made only to get shot by herself (himself?), she would have stood with the Doctor and that would have been beautiful. But the Doctor doesn't know, she was coming back for him.
That was amazing. Really well chosen shots. I also have to say that clean audio was excellently done
Thank you so much!! 💚💚
Controversial opinion I love The Timeless Children and Sacha Dhawan's Master... let you know if I get I really like the Chibnall era in general. there it is, there's your a controversial opinion
Awesome video by the way
Well thank you so much! And I have mixed feelings over the episode. Take out some parts of the episode, mostly the part about the timeless child being the doctor, and I think it was great. I also love Dhawan's master!!! I think having Rassilon as the timeless child could've been a better choice - considering he's known for immortality!!
I would have liked it if the Master or Rassilon was the Timeless Child
Yehh same, or Omega - could've been a cool way to bring back some classic Who.
@@aswarmofcrabs the master being the timeless child would be kinda neat
I actually really like series 11 and 12 too! Equally controversial opinion, I like that the Doctor is the Timeless Child. I think next season is going to talk about the theory more but it makes sense to me because of how different he/she is from the rest of the Time Lords. Plus it's canon so we can't really change it. I also think that the Master stole regeneration energy from Gallifrey before he destroyed it.
It's amazing and it makes me cry. Thanks!
Well you're welcome. 💚
All the actors who've played the Master have been top notch. It's close, and I think Simm and Darwan are excellent, but IMO Gomez just takes it to another level
Impressive man you've done a great job 🔥♥️
Thank you so much!!
This is so amazing I’m crying😭👏♥️
Thank you so much!! 💚💚
Course master always be in love with doctor but Missy was one stop try to deny it ?
Agreed. Both of them love eachother as they are truely the only friends eachother have. But the universe has been against them.
shame on you, you made me cry with this video and my heart.... amazing video, the best edit, overall the best there is. subscribe to u cause of this. keep going mate. this video brings joy to my heart
Awhhh thank you so much. It really means a lot. And just for you..... Im currently working on more doctor and master edits. 💚
@@Traxedits Can't wait to see it! Keep doing what you do!
I will 💚
Love it, amazing!
Thank you so much!!! 💚
The last time we saw the master with the 10th doctor the master was saving the doctor, the last we saw of missy she was helping the doctor, I wonder if the new master will do the same or will he be too far gone
I think he'll be far too gone, if we see him again. But Missy started off like this so redemption is still possible.
Trax! Yeah I was thinking he was to far gone, especially with the siberium in him. But it was so sweet to know that missy had changed.
Yehhhhh. I just wish, even though theyve denied it off camera, that Sasha's Master is before Missy. Coz all that progress went away. I want a season with The Master as the doctors companion and they defeat the dalek's and stuff. 😩
Trax! See it kind of make sense that Sashas master would come before missy cause he has the same rage Simms master had and the anger.
Trax! But you also saw that missy wanted to stand with the doctor against the cyber man but she knew she had to stop Simms master
it would be nice to see someone reacting to this video.
OMG... I WOULD LOVE THAT AHA!!
Amazing! I subscribed to you after this! :D
Awhhh. Thank you so much!! 💚💚
Beautifully done
Thank you so much. 💚
I love their relationship I can't I just wonder what version of the master 13's master is. is it after missy or before idk but I love them.
I really hope it is pre-missy. Otherwise they just destroyed the progress she made.. 😭
@@Traxedits that what I was hoping too because I love missy and if they get rid of all the good progress she made ill be UPSET :(
I will be too!!! :(
Incredible, great job!
Thank you so much. 💚
sometimes i feel that the master is just loney and he want his friend back but he doesn't know how
Yehh. I'm so glad they're back together. But so sad that Missy's change was for nothing.. THEY WERE SO CLOSE TO BEING BESTIES AGAIN .. but it's what I love about them!! 😭
With out witnesses with out reward
I am your friend.
Absolutely beautiful 💙
Thank you so much!! 💚
That was beautiful and so well done! ❤❤💙💙
Thank you. 💚
Wow this is really good
Thank you so much 💚
@@Traxedits it's genuinely beautiful how did you learn to edit like that
Thank you so much!! And I have just been inspired by other editors, and if you have a look through my channel, you''ll notice I have made a lot of edits to get me to where I am. :D
The Doctor ❤❤ The Masterr
The Master 💚💚 The Doctor
I must say... I cried.
No!!! 😭😭💚
Forget the shipping.
Missy was right - things like love and romanticism... they aren't adequate to explain the Doctor and the Master. This is... something. No. This is Something - Something that is older than anything we know, marred by tragedy and monstrosities alike. Friendship is perhaps the closest word, because the human languages don't have another that sums up this Something.
To give it labels like Love demeans it, because this is far purer, far more rare than something so simple. Missy said it best: no matter what, it would always end one way, where they were always going, even if it was the long way around - the Doctor and the Master would stand together, even against the whole of the universe.
Yehh I agree. I do think they love eachother however, but as a platonic sort of love - not sexual, loving as friends.
That was beautiful 😢👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😊😊😊
Thank you. 💚
This hurts. This really fucking hurts.
Wish they never landed on the Mondas ship and we had more 12, missy,Bill and nardole tardis team action
Same, except I'm glad that they landed. I think Missy had a perfect end to her run as the character, and bringing back Simm's master was wonderful. I just wish that they had an extra season before them two episodes!!
Imagine 11th dodger having to face the master, it would’ve been interesting
I ship
Me too. ☺️
Too bad that 13th Doctor act like Master is just her next enemy to defend
I know. She just cared so much about her "fam" that she forgot that the master is her childhood bestie, that could easily have done whatever he wanted. He didn't even need to show her that, he could've just invaded another planet. But he wanted her to know and she spat it back at him in his face. :(
I think she’s just sick of the Master’s bullcrap now
Yehhhh. But if you think about it. It's just the Master's methods of letting the doctor know that he/she is alright. And that he/she wants to see the doctor. Normal isn't enough for the master.
@@Traxedits but it's different now. The Master went too far to be forgiven, too far for his sins to be forgotten. He destroyed their home planet, he undid the Doctor's greatest achievement only because he wanted to break her. That's not something the Doctor can simply accept. He must be stopped, this "game" must end.
@@thetwelfthdoctor9892 The way I see it, the Doctor may never know that Missy was going to stand with them, and yet, Dhawan!Master does. I don't think the Master went to Gallifrey and destroyed it to undo the Doctor's greatest achievement, it doesn't fit, the two do genuinely care about each other, trying to kill each other is how they let the other know they're still alive and kicking so I think the Master went to Gallifrey and saw all of that in the matrix and realised his best friend, the Sherlock to his Moriarty was tortured for years, and everything on that planet is because the Doctor suffered, the Master exists because the Doctor suffered. and I think that broke him, the Master has been free of the drums for what a regeneration and a bit? but that was torture, mental torture but still torture. The Time Lords planted it there as a beacon when the Master was a child and that just fucked with his head. But they did so much more than that to the Doctor, they killed her again and again and again to experiment on her and get what they wanted. I think the Master destroyed Gallifrey for the Doctor. Also, if you watch 'the timeless children' again, the Master who comes back from the dead again and again, a character who is seemingly only scared of death, who has stolen regenerations so he can live longer wanted the Doctor to kill him, to actually permanently kill him, to destroy every molecule of him. I don't think it was guilt for destroying Gallifrey, I think it was guilt about being created from her pain, guilt from the horror show that the Doctor went through, and he wanted it over to free her from that pain in some way, sure what the Master did was cruel but I think there was some twisted form of good intentions behind it. He says "the history between us does mean something, it's the rage and pain in my hearts", so yeah, I think he did all of that for her, following his twisted logic of 'the Doctor's been hurt and I can't stop that from happening but I can avenge her.' I don't know if that makes sense but basically TLDR I don't think the Master wanted to break the Doctor I think he wanted to free her of the torture she experienced as a child.
Is Susan biological related to doctor/ master thought their daughter?
I m the 501 :3
Ya mean 503:1??? 🤔
That's NOT my Doctor (born in 1970 but the 8th is my favourite) and that's NOT my Master (nobody can beat Anthony Ainley 1978 - 1989!)
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2 sides of the same coin.
Indeed. They're one.
The 13th doctor was fake, and blight on the whole series.