The 'Negro' in Arab-Muslim Consciousness with Professor Abdullah Ali

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  • @ak_athariyyah
    @ak_athariyyah День тому +113

    As black Muslim revert - Islam forced me to reconcile woth some of my own prejudiced views on white people, it made feel so proud to also be black (due to the great black Muslim figures in history and the number of black Islamic empires in Islamic history) and in general it made me super tolerant/appreciative of all ethnicities and races (they each contributed in big and small ways to the human race in many diverse and amazing ways - truly Allah blessed us by making us different races and ethnicities)

    • @sunset2.00
      @sunset2.00 День тому

      UFC champion belal is a white folk but got a name of a pious freed black slave.

    • @superreemo100
      @superreemo100 День тому +4

      also one of the most beloved companions to our prophet's peace be upon him heart was zaid bin haretha i dont know if you know about him but he was black and the prophet peace be upon him used love him so much even other muslims started to give him the nickname ( the loved by our prophet) once when he was a kid he was sick with runny nose and the prophet cared a lot about him he wiped his little nose with his own hands and would not let our mother Aisha do it he said let me do it because i love him

    • @Mossaab-kg3cj5hc5s
      @Mossaab-kg3cj5hc5s День тому

      Race and color is a social construct , classism and cast systems gets ​confused with race@@superreemo100

    • @osamasamhan145
      @osamasamhan145 День тому +5

      @ak_athariyyah As a Palestinian 🇵🇸 - I can tell most Muslims and Arabs support strong united Africa - Remember what Gadaffi tried to do In regards of African currency
      .
      Some of our African brothers/comrades:
      1. Louis Farrakhan
      2. Reza Islam
      3. Mohammed Ali
      4. Malcolm X
      5. David Chappelle
      6. Mike Tyson
      7. Mutah Napoleon
      And the list goes on...
      We still can write history In our lifetime

    • @_Gunner_
      @_Gunner_ День тому

      My brother from another mother. I understand the psychologically generational defensive mechanism that African Americans have developped against the white man due to slavery but don't let that define you. Don't let the white man of the past dictate how you think now. It's good to keep history in mind and be aware but don't morph into those evil ones. The beauty of Islam is that Islam comes first, no race no nationalty no nothing. If a pitch black brother is a better practitioner of Islam than my own blood brother, then that pitch black brother is better than my blood brother in my own eyes! The African Americans that (try to) use Islam to promote black supremacy and rewrite history (i.e nation of "Islam") then I see them as low as the KKK.

  • @mzaher
    @mzaher День тому +58

    Brother Paul, the spectrum of topics and guests you’re bringing to your channel is just mind-blowing. May Allah continue to open doors and hearts for you. Started watching this and can’t wait to finish it. Much love and respect to you and Dr. Abdullah.

  • @alib7489
    @alib7489 День тому +34

    Uncle Paul is spoiling us with the rich content on this channel. Jazakallah Khair

  • @A.Majeed_
    @A.Majeed_ День тому +18

    بارك الله فيكم أستاذ عبد الله علي وأستاذ بول ويليامز.

  • @harbisulub
    @harbisulub День тому +16

    Love you both bro, you two make an awesome combo allahuma barik

  • @alexferdinansyah757
    @alexferdinansyah757 День тому +11

    This is been very educating presentation by Dr. Abdullah.

  • @adnanmir2873
    @adnanmir2873 День тому +13

    Such a Fascinating and unique topic

  • @iyaddarwish5205
    @iyaddarwish5205 13 годин тому +2

    Great subject “Topic” please bring him again , great lecture, love it

  • @zakariyaibrahim5264
    @zakariyaibrahim5264 День тому +12

    Such a nice cover of the topic

  • @osamasamhan145
    @osamasamhan145 День тому +37

    Islam didn't forbid slavery or make it (Haram)
    .
    Islam since the start encouraged to free slaves and cut all sources of slavery (Except from war)
    .
    Islam set strict sharia rules/regulations which no true Muslim should cross If having a slave, For example:
    1. Slave can pay for his freedom with a contract
    2. You can't mistreat slaves
    3. Living conditions should be same as the owner In terms of (Housing, Food, Clothing Ect...)
    4. Slaves have the right to get married
    5. Childrens of the slaves are free
    6. Slavery In Islam was not based on skin color
    7. In case if owner physically hit a slave even one time - You have to grant them their freedom
    .
    Still though with that being said - As a Palestinian, I'm not claiming that Arabs/Muslims are saints - We definitely have bad apples - For example we have kinda of modern ugly inhumane (Exploiting of poor nationalities) In rich GCC Arab countries which by the way represent (Capitalism) & doesn't represent real Islamic/rules
    .
    People who are experts In the subject understand that slavery still exists till today In different forms (Modern slavery) - without chains

    • @gjulia312
      @gjulia312 День тому

      Many Muslim leadership now the one that are at fault bcuz of their capitalist n modernized ways that gives off bad reputation to Islam.
      Many of those country does not adhere to Islamic way totally but pick n choose.

    • @captainblimp4133
      @captainblimp4133 День тому

      Black slaves in Iraq were castrated in the millions.

    • @alexferdinansyah757
      @alexferdinansyah757 День тому +7

      I would refrain from using the word "slave". Because what it said as "slavery" in Islam, for the lack of equivalent, is not the same as slavery like are portraits in american movies.

    • @erique-eljoven
      @erique-eljoven День тому

      Islam allows the trading of slaves, the prophet did it. This fact alone proves that Islam is pro slavery.
      Islam does NOT encourage freeing all one's slaves and to not obtain new ones.

    • @erique-eljoven
      @erique-eljoven День тому

      ​@@alexferdinansyah757A slave under Islam is exactly that: property with no rights that can be bought and sold, a prisoner who has to do what she/he is told.

  • @Doshanbe
    @Doshanbe День тому +10

    Bienvienue Monsieur Paul. ❤

  • @imammamunu9537
    @imammamunu9537 19 годин тому +2

    Very good presentation and easy to understand. May Allah bless you amin

  • @Mariama_B
    @Mariama_B День тому +3

    JazakhAllah Khair ❤ Absolutely fascinating

  • @irfanahmed6411
    @irfanahmed6411 День тому +6

    Dear brother Paul Allah bless you are doing great work on this planet and we love

  • @RosewiththornsRWT
    @RosewiththornsRWT 11 годин тому +2

    Mash'Allah. An interesting view of race offered by Dr. Abdullah Ali from a historical and theological perspective. Thanks for sharing, Paul. Keep intellectually-stimulating content coming 👍

  • @syedzainrehan
    @syedzainrehan 13 годин тому +1

    Very informative and educational. jazakum Allaah(swt) khair !

  • @Iraniansunnimuslim
    @Iraniansunnimuslim День тому +12

    I never understood theses random nicknames to others.
    We are all the same, in different tribes and people and genders so we can all meet each other.

    • @jostnamane3951
      @jostnamane3951 День тому +2

      It's the result of free will. Idk about your perspective on the existence of free will, but there's a certain degree of sovereignty given to us which is why we can "choose" to appeal to our preconceived inclinations and also "choose" to go through the process of learning or unlearning anything. I personally believe that we have complete free will, but under GOD's governance (Al-Mulk) and sovereignty. Which means that, whatever that you are inclined towards and want to pursue (i.e your labels), GOD will adorn you with certain notions (and the adorning terminologies and arguments that come with those notions) as an aid to help you reinforce those inclinations about reality. It's like being in a dark room where one can choose their own candle🕯️from all possible types of candles that are available in that room and you will only see things within the range of your candle🕯️. And GOD will judge you on the day of judgement concerning what you used to differ from the true nature of that room.

    • @jostnamane3951
      @jostnamane3951 День тому +2

      For example, the Indo-Aryan Brahmins in South Asia used to call the natives who practiced aborigin religions as "Mleccha", which means uncouth. That root-word evolved and entered into the vocabulary of various later Indic languages. Like here in South-Western India, a similar word was used by the light-skinned Chitpavan Brahmins to refer to the Dark-skinned tribal people "Galiccha", which means "uncouth people who live in huts"
      Racial and ethnic prejudice have existed since the day man was given the choice to "choose" his way.

    • @Iraniansunnimuslim
      @Iraniansunnimuslim День тому +1

      @@jostnamane3951 I do not agree with it.
      We shouldn't care about the skin tone, what's inside that matters more.
      How we think and function is what that makes us, us.

  • @Iiiiiiiiiiiic123
    @Iiiiiiiiiiiic123 День тому +5

    اللهم صل وسلم وبارك على سيدنا محمد وعلى اله وصحبه اجمعين 🤲🌷

  • @Omroqurba
    @Omroqurba День тому +6

    In Morocco the word AZI (a variation of عزيز), which means DEAR, is used to refer to black people. Sadly after colonialism we also learned from them racism and now is used as something despective even though the meaning is good.

    • @marcusali1783
      @marcusali1783 День тому

      The Iraqis say "abeed", which means slave.

    • @wilsonkorisawa7026
      @wilsonkorisawa7026 22 години тому

      I am Moroccan "3aZZI" means nigga and All Moroccans know that. In Algeria a blackman is called Kahloush. Lying is allowed in Islam (taqiya) and you are following the old habit of Mohammed...👍 Even Elon Musk mentioned the term "taqiya" in his tweet. Explain to him and Donald Trump what it means.

  • @abdurrazzak2970
    @abdurrazzak2970 День тому +4

    May Allah Bless and Reward Both of you in this Life and in the Hereafter.

  • @settingstransfer1249
    @settingstransfer1249 День тому +13

    Professor Abdullah as usual exceedingly eloquent

  • @naeem6722
    @naeem6722 21 годину тому +1

    Good talk, very interesting. Thanks

  • @JunaidKhan-vw3dx
    @JunaidKhan-vw3dx День тому +14

    Brother Paul, you are in south France along with your library in background 🤔

  • @GnosticCushite
    @GnosticCushite 16 годин тому +1

    I need this book for my personal library.

  • @respectthemanthatchangesfo760
    @respectthemanthatchangesfo760 17 годин тому +1

    Very informative
    Thank you

  • @AA-SOM
    @AA-SOM День тому +7

    Intriguing

  • @sunset2.00
    @sunset2.00 День тому +4

    In Bangladesh, my father is white skined (comparatively )and his brother is complete opposite. My cousin married a very dark skinned person despite she being very white.
    Most of the time it's because the black person has good moral rep and education than non darker skinned folk.
    My brother married a darker skinned Women because of her family rep but she had a secred boyfriend while my brother was chaste. The marriage ended since she doesn't love my brother because she only has him in his heart.
    Skin color means nothing ultimately. Having good morals , keeping yourself honest in dealings will improve the ummah most.

    • @mamunaaltaf2849
      @mamunaaltaf2849 22 години тому +2

      your are talking about colourism which is a massive issue still in the sub continent!

    • @sunset2.00
      @sunset2.00 16 годин тому

      @mamunaaltaf2849 May be for women particularly since all the movies and ads are misleading people to believe colourism but not good behavior or living morally or being fit. But I seen a lot of exceptions for women. For men, it's non existent in Bangladesh.

  • @Doshanbe
    @Doshanbe День тому +10

    What Gandhi thought about black people was pathetic. A good read would be a book by Arundhti Roy " Tha doctor and the saint"

    • @Huhn-Bruh
      @Huhn-Bruh День тому

      What the Arab Muslims thought about the Zang was pathetic too

    • @jostnamane3951
      @jostnamane3951 День тому +1

      Are you from Dushanbe, Tajikistan?

  • @Salim-wr2wk
    @Salim-wr2wk 12 годин тому

    The fact that Muslims are having to discuss racism is truly sad. We have the truth and this something that exist in the minds of Muslims. May Allah guide us all to the straight path.

  • @upondivineguidanceorder2548
    @upondivineguidanceorder2548 21 годину тому +2

    Nearly an hour and a 1/2 of
    Off topic discussion
    Am I the only one who noticed that the conversation did not revolve around the topic..?

  • @upondivineguidanceorder2548
    @upondivineguidanceorder2548 22 години тому +5

    No, the people of the Levant are not originally Arabs, although a large portion of the population in the Levant today identify as Arab due to historical migrations and cultural influence, but genetically, they have a distinct ancestry from the Arabian Peninsula, with more ancient Levantine ancestry from the region itself;.
    Key points to consider:
    Ancient inhabitants:
    The original inhabitants of the Levant were various Semitic peoples like the Canaanites, who spoke languages related to Hebrew, not Arabic.
    Arab migration:
    While Arab tribes did migrate to the Levant over time, particularly during the Muslim conquests, the majority of the population in the region prior to that were not Arabs.
    Genetic distinction:
    Recent genetic studies indicate that Levantines have a distinct genetic profile compared to people from the Arabian Peninsula.

    • @Global_just
      @Global_just 20 годин тому +2

      The genuine Arabs live in Yemen

    • @misriya4147
      @misriya4147 17 годин тому +1

      Hebrew is related to Arabic

    • @ReyMy-dx3ku
      @ReyMy-dx3ku 16 годин тому +1

      Hebrew wasn't big, it never was. Hebrew speaking people always was a small community. Rather many Persians where inhibitors of the Levant.

    • @aal-e-ahmadhussain3123
      @aal-e-ahmadhussain3123 7 годин тому

      Very interesting. I was having this discussion with someone. Can you share references for any of these opinions?

  • @Vancouver2010BC
    @Vancouver2010BC День тому +2

    I've commented many times about this issue in the past, but it was completely ignored. Islam is not a church, and schools of thought, Shia, etc., are all sourced from people who are not prophets, regardless of their status. You are only required to follow the Prophet's teachings.
    The issue of Malki discriminating against Black women is not the only problem-there are thousands of other examples. I've studied this extensively and know what I’m talking about. Go back to the source: the Quran and authentic Hadith, period. You don’t need the interpretations of others, because the Arabic language is well-preserved and well-documented. If you don’t know something, consult an Arabic language scholar or dictionary-not anyone else.
    No one, except the Prophet, has the right to tell you what to do or what not to do. If you follow this, you will be saved, and you can stand before God on the Day of Judgment and argue that you only followed the Messenger that God sent-no one else.

  • @asmarshadeed
    @asmarshadeed 11 годин тому

    Ibn Hadeed said in Sharh Nahaj Al Balaagah, Chapter 5 page 36
    ”From the category of nicknames .. the saying of the prophet Mohammed pbuh….. ”I was sent to the black and the red” , it is intended to mean to the Arabs and the the non Arabs . The nickname for Arabs is black and for the non Arabs is red. And the Arabs call the non Arabs red because a pale white complexion is predominant amongst them.”

    ابن حديد رحمه الله شرح نهج البلاغة ج5 ص36
    من باب الكنايات قوله ..: بعث إلى الاسود و الأحمر ، يريد ، إلى العرب و العجم ، فكنى عن العرب بالسود و عن العجم بالحمر، و العرب تسمى العجمي احمر لأن الشقرة أغلب عليه

  • @mooshei8165
    @mooshei8165 День тому +3

    What's the original word in text?

  • @aal-e-ahmadhussain3123
    @aal-e-ahmadhussain3123 Годину тому

    30:35 - Adopting (problematic) Western responses to the (problematic) Western conception of race and whiteness.
    55:54 - A genealogy of “race classification” in the Western tradition.

  • @yuckk.k
    @yuckk.k 17 годин тому

    Would love you going more into Maliki Madhab and Race. JzK

  • @ABDULRAHMAN-pu2lo
    @ABDULRAHMAN-pu2lo 7 годин тому +1

    The concept and treatment of Slaves in Islam is Much different than that of slaves in the West. i. e. in Amrka and other Western countries women and men are treated worse then slaves are treated in Islam; That's why more Western Women become Muslim than any other religion. 💕
    In Islam Slaves in Islam eat the same food as and together with, their owners. In Islam Slaves get paid for their work.
    In Islam a slave can (ransom) free himself.
    In Islam Slaves are treated better than the factory workers and citizens in many countries.
    Allah encourages and rewards the Muslims who free slaves. Islam has a history of freeing slaves like Billal. After freedom Many voluntarily became Muslim.
    In Islam, slave owners are Not permitted to rape or abuse a slave; the owner of a slave cannot have sexual relatios with his slave without concent from the slave. It must be mutual concent. Some sharia law punishments are more intence for non-slaves than for slaves.

  • @leroybrownjr
    @leroybrownjr День тому +1

    worked for kaust in thuwal ksa ... arabs capitulate to ws willingly

  • @bobdia2608
    @bobdia2608 День тому +3

    Brother, Paul with all due respect this term "N" is no longer used to describe "Black people ". I hope you will reconsider this title. جزاك الله خير

    • @ConiiCeltici
      @ConiiCeltici День тому +1

      its not exactly a term is legit an existing word a portuguese word that means dark its one of the words we use to call or describe something that is indeed dark and that word already existed far prior to the transatlantic slave trade

    • @bobdia2608
      @bobdia2608 День тому

      ​@ConiiCeltici Language is geographically and historically related. In the context of the English language in the US and UK this term is not ok.

    • @Kolesha
      @Kolesha День тому

      Nah it's OK.

    • @abdullaahbinbaroos6096
      @abdullaahbinbaroos6096 18 годин тому

      He's using it because it's the title of the guest's book, who is African American, and the subject of the discussion.

  • @HussainFahmy
    @HussainFahmy 20 годин тому +1

    ❤💚🖤🤍💯

  • @jiminiepabo4869
    @jiminiepabo4869 15 годин тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @lonewarrior5827
    @lonewarrior5827 3 години тому

    I dont care... if you call the prophet muhammad peace be upon him was black skin color ...he is still a prophet of Allah....

  • @theprotagonist5117
    @theprotagonist5117 День тому +2

  • @joemalone3099
    @joemalone3099 3 години тому

    In the ancient world slavery has nothing to do with the skin color as opposite to slavery trade ....you can be white black or what ever and be slave ...if you can't pay your debt you can end up be enslaved until your debt is paid even inside the same tribe... or being captives during war. as an example in ancient rome slaves came in all colors. I know it is not the video topic but just to make a point to some comments

  • @Oa5e38a1hi5
    @Oa5e38a1hi5 12 годин тому

    Allah ASW. Didn't let us without guidons, as to how we were created regardless of humans colure. Read the following verses from Quan with English translation.
    أَلَمْ تَرَ أَنَّ ٱللَّهَ أَنزَلَ مِنَ ٱلسَّمَآءِ مَآءًۭ فَأَخْرَجْنَا بِهِۦ ثَمَرَ‌ٰتٍۢ مُّخْتَلِفًا أَلْوَ‌ٰنُهَا ۚ وَمِنَ ٱلْجِبَالِ جُدَدٌۢ بِيضٌۭ وَحُمْرٌۭ مُّخْتَلِفٌ أَلْوَ‌ٰنُهَا وَغَرَابِيبُ سُودٌۭ [٣٥:٢٧]
    Do you not see that Allah sends down rain from the sky, and We produce thereby fruits of varying colors? And in the mountains are tracts, white and red of varying shades and [some] extremely black. ‌[35:27]
    وَمِنَ ٱلنَّاسِ وَٱلدَّوَآبِّ وَٱلْأَنْعَـٰمِ مُخْتَلِفٌ أَلْوَ‌ٰنُهُۥ كَذَ‌ٰلِكَ ۗ إِنَّمَا يَخْشَى ٱللَّهَ مِنْ عِبَادِهِ ٱلْعُلَمَـٰٓؤُا۟ ۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ عَزِيزٌ غَفُورٌ [٣٥:٢٨]
    And among people and moving creatures and grazing livestock are various colors similarly. Only those fear Allah, from among His servants, who have knowledge. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Forgiving. ‌[35:28]
    إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ يَتْلُونَ كِتَـٰبَ ٱللَّهِ وَأَقَامُوا۟ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ وَأَنفَقُوا۟ مِمَّا رَزَقْنَـٰهُمْ سِرًّۭا وَعَلَانِيَةًۭ يَرْجُونَ تِجَـٰرَةًۭ لَّن تَبُورَ [٣٥:٢٩]
    Indeed, those who recite the Book of Allah and establish prayer and spend [in His cause] out of what We have provided them, secretly and publicly, [can] expect a profit that will never perish - ‌[35:29]

  • @asemalshoura519
    @asemalshoura519 День тому +1

    my brother is blue eyed white guys and my cousin have a very dark skin and wallah i the term "race" I still feel everybody who is using it out of his mind. now i have read the history not sure I will still insist that these term is like the zodiac effect on human being. meaningless

  • @asmarshadeed
    @asmarshadeed 11 годин тому

    The ancient Arabs did describes themselves as Black and im sure Professor Ali knows his ...its just he's being cautious with his words

  • @q4u2die4
    @q4u2die4 День тому

    To say that Islam accommodate scholars with known (i.e. written/published) principles, attitudes, or positions about any of the known Islamic or otherwise sciences (or, specialty or study subject) is very nuanced and diverse is an understatement.
    Without belittling or prejudicial against current and all the other guest speakers/presenters on Blogging Theology; I wish brother Paul could endeavor to invite Hamza Yusuf and Yasir Qadhi to freely speak about where the English-speaking Muslims (or otherwise) are at today.
    سبحانك اللهم وبحمدك أشهد أن لا إلٰه إلا أنت أستغفرك وأتوب إليك - الحمد لله - جزاكم الله خيرا - آمين

  • @YungRamo
    @YungRamo 12 годин тому

    I think it was unwise to present that claim about the maliki school without any explanation or references. Just fitnah. Please give a reference if you can.

    • @YungRamo
      @YungRamo 12 годин тому

      I tried to look for some evidence of the claim but could not find anything. Perhaps the brother is magnifying strange/fringe opinions that are not accepted by the scholars of ahlul sunnah.

  • @iArsalan
    @iArsalan День тому +3

    There's an incoherence in this talk in two parts: First this was titled 'Negro' in Arab-Muslim Consciousness and he spent most his time attacking Critical Race Theory which has to do with Whiteness. Second, his definitions of terms is confused or non-existent; for example, he often confuses Bigotry (individual behavior) for Racism (systemic order) and he doesn't really define or deal with the view of Arab scholars toward 'Zanji', 'Negros' or otherwise in any deep or meaningful way. There's a direct line from racist Arab scholars to the racism of the European scholars he mentions.

    • @sonny7159
      @sonny7159 День тому +4

      Racism can be individual, in addition to systemic.

    • @iArsalan
      @iArsalan День тому

      @@sonny7159 Insomuch as it concerns Critical Race Theory or just society in general Racism is entirely about systems of power. In such a context, the focus on individuals has always been a distraction. The fact remains that a system of racial hierarchy has been constructed and Arabs have been complicit in it since its beginning during the slave trade. We can't begin to bring about unity until that complicity and its continued enforcement are addressed.
      For example, if I as a Black man go to Israel, I will be called a Kushi (n*gger) but also if I go to Palestine I will just as likely be called an Abd (slave i.e. n*gger), so if there's one thing those most implacable of foes can agree upon it's that my essential nature is beneath theirs and every effort will be made to keep me at the bottom of society.

    • @iArsalan
      @iArsalan День тому

      @@sonny7159 Insomuch as it concerns society and Critical Race Theory, racism is about systems of power and focus on individual behavior is always a distraction from that system. The fact remains that there has been a global system of racial hierarchy and Arabs have been complicit in it since its beginnings in the slave trade. We can't begin to achieve unity among the Muslims until that first betrayal by Arab Muslims against African Muslims is redressed. Critical Race Theory has serious flaws but there is no viable alternative being proffered by Muslim scholarship because of their unwillingness to speak to the elephant in the room.

    • @upondivineguidanceorder2548
      @upondivineguidanceorder2548 20 годин тому +1

      This topic was so off discussion I thought he was gonna be tackling the topic of discussion and he was just talking about other things

  • @asadhaque846
    @asadhaque846 18 годин тому

    Zanjibar is a country.

  • @HaleyChain-vw8rr
    @HaleyChain-vw8rr День тому +2

    Didn't the arab slave trade dwarf all others in timeline , scale and cruelty ?

    • @3nuts-502
      @3nuts-502 День тому

      Absolutely not

    • @HaleyChain-vw8rr
      @HaleyChain-vw8rr 23 години тому

      ​@@3nuts-502are you Muslim ?

    • @mohammedshoaib-tq6hb
      @mohammedshoaib-tq6hb 23 години тому +2

      Your statement itself proves your ignorance about islam especially regarding this topic

    • @HaleyChain-vw8rr
      @HaleyChain-vw8rr 23 години тому

      @mohammedshoaib-tq6hb slavery is permissable in islam, that is fact.

    • @akeel6328
      @akeel6328 22 години тому +2

      Evidence?

  • @AI-Hallucination
    @AI-Hallucination День тому +1

    Dante’s inforno the depiction of Mohammed by William Blake is amazing

  • @umarujalloh2962
    @umarujalloh2962 День тому +2

    Stop making excuses there were slaves in Arabia during the time of the prophet. Discrimination and horrible human behavior was not invented by the west.

    • @HajjDawudWalid
      @HajjDawudWalid День тому +24

      The majority of the enslaved were Arabs not Africans in that era. Before the Prophet’s birth, Ethiopians conquered Yemen and enslaved Arabs.
      Slavery was normative then and wasn’t purely “race” based back then.

    • @MoSec9
      @MoSec9 День тому

      Slaves were not strictly black in those days. They were black, white, brown, there Arab slaves, Persian slaves and others. That did not make it right but it was definitely not such a big industry on such a big scale and most importantly was not based on a philosophy of racism in the sense that it considered blacks specifically inferior intellectually and inferior in humanity if he’s considered human at all. There are lots of slurs and descriptions that you will not find in any of the literature from those times and I mean both Arab-Muslim and non-Arab-Muslim. No type of slavery is right but there’s a huge difference. And the sooner you accept that, the better human you will be.

    • @BloggingTheology
      @BloggingTheology  День тому +13

      @@HajjDawudWalid As salamu aleiykum Sir!

    • @Davidlevy-vd5cw
      @Davidlevy-vd5cw День тому +12

      I am an Ethiopian, I know a little about slavery. My mom on her wedding was gifted a slave girl. So slavery was practiced until recently. But it is totally different in the idea of Western slaveries. In Ethiopia they practiced as extending family members.

    • @ahmaduahmed8760
      @ahmaduahmed8760 День тому +10

      I don't think there was a nation that didn't have slavery in their history. However the conditions subjected to slaves vary from culture to culture. Islam put rules to terminate slavery:-
      1. Slaves can pay their ransom and be free.
      2. A man can free a slave for several reason, as charity, or expeciation of religious mistakes like kaffarah,, etc
      3. A slave girl that gets pregnant by her master becomes free and the children have same status as the father, if a Sultan, king, they can inherit the thrown.
      4. There are conditions to house, feed, and house slaves.
      5. Slaves are given high responsibility positions within a family, Nobles, and Emperors. In palaces you find slaves with very high ranking official positions.
      In western slavery it is perpetual, no freeing of slave, that includes the children of the master, they are slaves.

  • @petethepeg2
    @petethepeg2 День тому +5

    Poor old Bilal ! It is claimed Mohammad was supposedly against racism and against slavery and yet he had many slaves and received many slaves as gifts . Bilal was his slave and as a slave he served faithfully but after Muhammad `s death , Bilal asked for his freedom and was refused. Hmmmmm!

    • @mrnomad1737
      @mrnomad1737 День тому +1

      You are a braying donkey. Bilal RAD freedom was bought and freed by Abu Bakr. Virtually all sins or penalty was recompense by freeing slave if he has financial capability. THE PROBLEM WITH Eurocentric mind is that they project their misdeeds on others. Slavery is not limited to dark skinned people but covered also central Asia. Unlike the westerner Muslims have no issue discussing this in frank open manner without what aboutism. Jonathan Brown wrote extensively about slavery and Islam. In Islam a slave can become a master and occupy high position.

    • @ak_athariyyah
      @ak_athariyyah День тому +36

      As a black Muslim, I am not sure where u got this info from. Bilal was a slave to pagan Arabs in Mecca. When he heard of Islam, he embraced it and was thus tortured by the pagans Arabs. His enslavement and persecution were nothing to do with his race or ethnicity. Another early (Arab) Muslim paid for his freedom. He became one of the most well-known and greatest figures in Islam. In his lifetime, he was a close follower of prophet Mohammed, not his slave or servant. In fact, the prophet Mohammed made him the person to call to prayer even once on top of the Kabah. The prophet strongly recommended all Muslims to follow Bilal in certain actions to do with purification and prayer. The prophet Mohammed told him that he will be one of the people of Paradise.

    • @ahmaduahmed8760
      @ahmaduahmed8760 День тому +18

      Bilal became a free man in Madina. After the conquest of Mecca, Bilal was the first to call prayer on top of the Ka'aba. In Madina he was the person calling prayers especially dawn (Subih) prayers.

    • @ak_athariyyah
      @ak_athariyyah День тому +8

      Slavery is something all of humanity has been involved in. However, it was linked to wars. Thus slaves were simply prisoners of war with the exception of the Transatlantic slave trade. The Transatlantic Slave trade was motivated by racism, economics, and enslaving free people (men, women, and children who there was no war with).
      The slave the early Muslims had were either gifts or prisoners of war. Like the ancient Romans, Greeks, Ancient Egyptians, Ancient Chinese, etc. all had. It was likewise not based on racism since they had black, Arab and white slaves. But unlike the previous nations, Islam revolutionised the treatment of slaves. Islam forced its followers to give slaves a number of rights, chances to buy their own freedom, spiritual rewards for freeing slaves, made it obligatory to free slaves if certain sins were committed, made it forbidden to rape slave women and to separate slave women from their children, made it so the food and clothing of the slave had to be the same as the slave owner, they could not be beaten and over worked etc.
      Lastly, if you look into Islamic history, many rulers, ministers, governors, general etc. were slaves or sons of a slave women. So Islam gave slaves upward mobility to the point some slaves became rulers.

    • @jaketwigg1065
      @jaketwigg1065 День тому

      lol, this is the calibre of those who try to speak against Islam with their mouths… completely oblivious to the irony…