Can't say I agree about the alt-fire ability for weapons. It makes the guns far more interesting when you have more options available. Also Blood (1997) had alt-fire for weapons.
If my memory is right, so did Dark Forces. Early 1995! I did get a really Dark Forces vibe from the exterior segments of this game. Dark Forces also had a similar progression system - no quick save.
@@x5finger Now you've said it, I believe you are correct about DF. That was te game that caused me to switch from Amiga to PC, so you'd think I'd remember that one.
@@lwaves alt fire in UT separated the masters from the easy pick up and play players. Those alt fire abilities took skill to pull off and were highly rewarding when successfully used. Of all the things in shooters these days that I miss, alt fire is the major one.
@@WorthABuyreviews What video editing software do you use? I wont get weird, im just curious. Looking at da vinci + 3090 (If I can buy the damn thing) + 6TB raid 0 3x nvme pci 4.0. 8k is probably viable with interpolation. You can take that pixel/floating point accuracy, and convert it to a 4k upload which people actually have, though with supersampling. Even post compression its technically going to look better, like with raytracing injection, and intelligent sharpening. Im aware at some point you abandoned the toaster.
@@WorthABuyreviews And anyone who rolls out videos who actually has the hardware now, let me know. Im going to be building a database soon with all my settings available to the public, even if some of our work ends up being a bit redundant. Ideally we get a group of people going, since im not going to dump millions of dollars into entertainment software. The ultimate goal would be having each games reshade values both on display, and the settings with that presenation, AND having the presets available for download somewhere. Plug and play. You either have the hardware to play it, or you dont. Generally im going to assume you have at least somewhat modern hardware to play with this stuff. It actually works just fine even on my highly modified GTX 980M, but honestly, you should probably at minimum these days have at least around a RTX 2070 GPU. These next generation games are legitimately going to push the IO spearhead, which is why we are seeing GDDR6 and GDDR6X ram disks for CPU IPC uplift. Its really just preparing for truly next generation texture quality. It honestly is probably going to be very good. We will just have to see more games that arent just rushed out like assassins creed VH which are basically parity for parity on both consoles. I have my own suspicions about the PS5 CPU clockrates. The super fast SSD with its own dedicated compression decompression silicon which the PC master race isnt getting outside like literal server environment tiers of investment is going to be only as useful as your brain can feed such a process. We are getting to the point terabytes of storage are like DDR2 and DDR3 RAM. Its going to have trickle down effects of processing power by LOD you dont have to forfeit. It looks to have a snowballing effect, where before you processed its existence, then had to dump it out of memory. Remember texture quality has basically zero impact on performance if you actually have that memory available to pull it off. Its been this way for years and years and years. Imagine what is possible with this sort of actual technological advance. If you are going to bother however, please dont make it easy to beat. At best youll get parity. As to you bud, I know you are unusually shy. Lets just keep the subject gaming related. My specialty is optimization, and maxing out graphical fidelity. I am however a video editing noob. The idea of periodic payments with mediocre past records of optimization, I just dont know about that adobe.
The graphics options actually have a ton in there. You can switch out enemy sprites for 3D models, make the entire game look low res, add scan lines and a ton of other stuff. Also quick saves = save scumming, which just is the furthest thing you want players to be doing in a fast paced shooter. Also the levels aren't slow paced. In the video he is playing slow for some reason but that is on him. There is a leaderboard that takes time into account so you should be running through the levels as fast as possible. Oh and the iron sights are just part of the alt fires, its not like you are running around adsing all the time.
I think it actually looks kinda nice eventhough I'm one of those people who wouldn't touch your original boomer games lol. Its kinda like when a dev makes pixel graphics look stunning. Not quite there yet though.
As soon as I saw the title to this video, my first thought was “He’s gonna sing Big F*****g Gun at sone point” and you didn’t disappoint, Mack!! I never get tired of hearing it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
I'm enjoying and loving Prodeus for what it is so far and look forward to what the complete access has in store for us! You should play and do a review for Ghostrunner, it's really fun! Definitely go with the PC version from Steam!
When this review started i was taken straight back to the days of Doom, Quake and in my case especially, Duke Nukem 3D. It was all so new then and so exciting. Every couple of months the new game would be so much better than that which had gone before albeit that it probably required you to upgrade your hardware! :-) I'm tempted to give this a go. I just hope that the developers take on board some of your comments. Thanks for all your great work. Mack
Thanks for the review, was wondering about this. They could make a few simple changes to fix some of your gripes. Change the checkpoint system to just an autosave like doom. And then also a button for auto save :) I hope the devs watch your review!
I like where Prodeus is going, can't wait to see what it is like with another year of content development. Seems like they've come up to a pretty good state really quickly. I agree that the saving system is the weakest aspect, but I don't get too hung up on the weapon mechanics. There's lots of old school inspiration for weapons, you can find an excuse to fit almost anything, like Blood weapons.
I have watched 1st episode with that song on my own and when my lass came back home we had few beers and i started singing THAT BIG FUCKIN GUN! the look she gave me - priceless
He's got a point about the checkpoint system. Too frequent checkpoints brings you out of the immersion and not respawning enemies is just "cheating". Very much disagree with the alt-fire modes on guns though, that's just fun.
I must say, I had a blast of a time with this game. I was very impressed with it, and for me, the fun-factor was very high. Yeah, the CP system sucks a bit, but I can live with it. The levels all feel great, and get better and better along the way, and that keeps you coming back for more. One of the most addictive games I played in a long time.
The graphics are very nice. They managed to get a special mix. Oldshool but modern and very beautiful at the end. Im playing since wolfenstein3d, duke nukem and all this, Those games were great at their time but in memories much butter as they have been. Prodeus is the first game what gave me the feeling i got back in the days. Its amazing.
Ever since internet started to get common people wanted to start competing, leaderboards are needed. We also need moderation of leaderboards, there always is someone who takes a lap 30 sec faster than everyone else or otherwise has that time machine. BUT, DOOM didn't have high score tables because it was the start of the 90's,, you had to post you'r scores/times yourself (remember gran turismo) now we have internet and can compete and get hacked with and by everyone. And I also remember playing DOOM and just had to get by a room and tried like thirty times before success, that's what you want in a game, yes, the feeling of achievement.
When I first saw previews and impressions of this game, I rolled my eyes, thinking of the over saturation of this sub-genre...bought and played it today and it completely won me over. Go support the devs and buy this game.
Amid Evil, Dusk, Ion Maiden and also next year Brutal fate by the creator of Brutal doom and also Graven which seems to be an open world FPS, i thought you'd love this stuff mack.
Something worth noting is that the pixelated mess is actually a shader on top of normal 3D objects and animations, which can be enabled or disabled. I know it doesn't matter a lot gameplay wise, but I think it is something very impressive from a technical standpoint.
Don't hate on alt fire modes. BLOOD is a shooter of the old and it's the greatest of the greats, and it had alternate fire modes... Which were amazing!
Mack, i usually dont comment, however, If i need an honest review, this is the channel. You deserve so many more subs. Keep up what you are doing my man!
Did they say what engine they developed this in? Quake, Unreal, Unity? I am always interested in games that ship out with a level editor. Gameplay looks more like Quake but plays like DOOM of old.
I think it actually looks pretty good. It has smart visuals mixed with classic 2D. Similar to how some games graphics changed games, like the original Borderlands, or XIII. But this mixes old 2D with some good graphics.
Prodeus has the best of both worlds. You can choose 240/360p modes and add adjustable CRT, scanline or pixel effects - or run it at native 4K and change the sprites to proper 3D models (and they're adding modelled weapons later). It can actually look really impressive.
"We just had pieces of wood nailed into the mother board and that was your graphics card" 😆
Good old days, where we still near with nature.
monke gpu
True story
Mack was bloody posh - we didn't get the nails and just had to stick the wood on with our own shit
Mack: Let's use the nails, the nails - of the manufacturer!
Can't say I agree about the alt-fire ability for weapons. It makes the guns far more interesting when you have more options available. Also Blood (1997) had alt-fire for weapons.
The original Unreal Tournament game had it too and like Blood, that's an old school 90's FPS.
If my memory is right, so did Dark Forces. Early 1995!
I did get a really Dark Forces vibe from the exterior segments of this game. Dark Forces also had a similar progression system - no quick save.
@@x5finger Now you've said it, I believe you are correct about DF. That was te game that caused me to switch from Amiga to PC, so you'd think I'd remember that one.
@@lwaves alt fire in UT separated the masters from the easy pick up and play players. Those alt fire abilities took skill to pull off and were highly rewarding when successfully used.
Of all the things in shooters these days that I miss, alt fire is the major one.
UT? Heck, the original Unreal had an alt fire mode for EVERY weapon. Of course alt-fire modes are old school.. Mack you silly
That BFG song is now a staple of this channel like the bell and Bunny...
Speaking of which, BRING BUNNY BACK!
I actually stopped the video the moment it started. Sorry, don't wanna have it stuck in my head again.
For me it's a bit too much..
@@plskenpls ?
It's not Bunny. It's Rabbit.
@@plskenpls when he overdo it for over thirty seconds it gets a bit annoying after the first couple of times hearing it 🔇
@@roadwarrior528 Road Warrior is right you tourist!
When will you be releasing an album of all your songs? Mac's BFG Compilation, I'd buy that
Still waiting for that too!
Heat from the cops
Would that be worth a buy?
@@Torsteinhauger Definitely, DEFINITELY worth a buy!
Same! 😂 my favorite part of the reviews these days
Aah I remember nailing my first piece of wood into my motherboard back then
Never though I would hear "the original Doom" and "slow paced" in the same sentence.
Great video!
Title has the phrase, "school shooter" in it good luck getting it monetized lol
lol
youtube is so moronic and petty
I love how he did change it too! Proof he trusts his community quite a lot
@@WorthABuyreviews
What video editing software do you use?
I wont get weird, im just curious. Looking at da vinci + 3090 (If I can buy the damn thing) + 6TB raid 0 3x nvme pci 4.0.
8k is probably viable with interpolation. You can take that pixel/floating point accuracy, and convert it to a 4k upload which people actually have, though with supersampling. Even post compression its technically going to look better, like with raytracing injection, and intelligent sharpening. Im aware at some point you abandoned the toaster.
@@WorthABuyreviews
And anyone who rolls out videos who actually has the hardware now, let me know. Im going to be building a database soon with all my settings available to the public, even if some of our work ends up being a bit redundant. Ideally we get a group of people going, since im not going to dump millions of dollars into entertainment software. The ultimate goal would be having each games reshade values both on display, and the settings with that presenation, AND having the presets available for download somewhere. Plug and play. You either have the hardware to play it, or you dont. Generally im going to assume you have at least somewhat modern hardware to play with this stuff. It actually works just fine even on my highly modified GTX 980M, but honestly, you should probably at minimum these days have at least around a RTX 2070 GPU. These next generation games are legitimately going to push the IO spearhead, which is why we are seeing GDDR6 and GDDR6X ram disks for CPU IPC uplift. Its really just preparing for truly next generation texture quality. It honestly is probably going to be very good. We will just have to see more games that arent just rushed out like assassins creed VH which are basically parity for parity on both consoles. I have my own suspicions about the PS5 CPU clockrates. The super fast SSD with its own dedicated compression decompression silicon which the PC master race isnt getting outside like literal server environment tiers of investment is going to be only as useful as your brain can feed such a process. We are getting to the point terabytes of storage are like DDR2 and DDR3 RAM. Its going to have trickle down effects of processing power by LOD you dont have to forfeit. It looks to have a snowballing effect, where before you processed its existence, then had to dump it out of memory. Remember texture quality has basically zero impact on performance if you actually have that memory available to pull it off. Its been this way for years and years and years. Imagine what is possible with this sort of actual technological advance.
If you are going to bother however, please dont make it easy to beat. At best youll get parity.
As to you bud, I know you are unusually shy. Lets just keep the subject gaming related. My specialty is optimization, and maxing out graphical fidelity. I am however a video editing noob. The idea of periodic payments with mediocre past records of optimization, I just dont know about that adobe.
Mack used to be my favorite reviewer, now he’s my favorite musician.
The graphics options actually have a ton in there. You can switch out enemy sprites for 3D models, make the entire game look low res, add scan lines and a ton of other stuff. Also quick saves = save scumming, which just is the furthest thing you want players to be doing in a fast paced shooter. Also the levels aren't slow paced. In the video he is playing slow for some reason but that is on him. There is a leaderboard that takes time into account so you should be running through the levels as fast as possible. Oh and the iron sights are just part of the alt fires, its not like you are running around adsing all the time.
Oh no but mack is the best, the greatest, the never wrong youtuber. How could he
Its fast in my opinion.
I, for one, welcome more of our Retro FPS Overlords
At 2:25 it became clear to me that the BFG song was coming, and so for 32 seconds I was held in suspense as I waited for it.
No regrets getting this game, great fun, + Level editor, there are some good community made maps already. 😊
Still ready to pre-order that album, Mack.
The BFG pre-order?...lol.
Any plans to release the official vinyl of the songs for the Patreon supporters? Ahaha, fine video as usual Mack.
There is huge problem with this game - I cant see anything because blood of my enemies flow unrestricted to form rivers of the damned :D
actually died a bunch of times because of this. the devs need to address this as soon as possible.
Doesn't sound like a problem to me.
@@arsenii_yavorskyi You can decrease the level of blood.
My christmas wishlist for Mack this year:
- Full playthrough of BlackMesa Xen Chapter
Finally a retro fps that doesn't look nasty!
I mean . . .
@@MrSongib They're usually too visually faithful 🤷♂️
I think it actually looks kinda nice eventhough I'm one of those people who wouldn't touch your original boomer games lol. Its kinda like when a dev makes pixel graphics look stunning. Not quite there yet though.
@@darken2417 I agree.
really dig the art style and level aesthetic in this one
2:56 I had my earphones unplugged when he played that and I swear my whole room shook
Lmao that bass donk shakes hard
Thanks for the feedback.
What's the race of the Shooter tho ?
@@stuartfleming Good Nice to hear, The Correct mix and Ratio.
I have now been coming for the songs, i hope they’re permanent in all reviews 😂😂😂 instant classics
Love your content, Mack
Been with Mac since he was at a measly 7.5k subscribers. Keep up the great content brother!
I think the checkpoints would be fine if the levels actually reset to that point. As it stands, they just function as an infinite life system.
Totally agree.
As soon as I saw the title to this video, my first thought was “He’s gonna sing Big F*****g Gun at sone point” and you didn’t disappoint, Mack!! I never get tired of hearing it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
I'm enjoying and loving Prodeus for what it is so far and look forward to what the complete access has in store for us! You should play and do a review for Ghostrunner, it's really fun! Definitely go with the PC version from Steam!
amazing sprite work.
thats all
When this review started i was taken straight back to the days of Doom, Quake and in my case especially, Duke Nukem 3D. It was all so new then and so exciting. Every couple of months the new game would be so much better than that which had gone before albeit that it probably required you to upgrade your hardware! :-) I'm tempted to give this a go. I just hope that the developers take on board some of your comments. Thanks for all your great work. Mack
Can't wait for Mack to drop his next track "big fookin guns"
Very reminiscent of Duke Nukem 3D, which I loved as a kid.
how is it similar to Duke? the visual aesthetic and enemy roster is practically identical to Doom.
remember voodoo graphics cards? tiny things with no fan required. we had a sleepover when one of our friends got a new pc with voodoo. omg good times
Thank you for talking about the checkpoint system. I love almost everything about this game except that most of the game has no fail state.
Thanks for the review, was wondering about this.
They could make a few simple changes to fix some of your gripes. Change the checkpoint system to just an autosave like doom. And then also a button for auto save :)
I hope the devs watch your review!
I’ve been eying reimagined games like this.
I like where Prodeus is going, can't wait to see what it is like with another year of content development. Seems like they've come up to a pretty good state really quickly. I agree that the saving system is the weakest aspect, but I don't get too hung up on the weapon mechanics. There's lots of old school inspiration for weapons, you can find an excuse to fit almost anything, like Blood weapons.
"Give me a big fucking gun, a big pile of elephant dung, give me a big fucking gun" awesome vid mack haha great songs and great reviews!
Mack could you do a preview of Enlisted?
Thanks Mack, I've been waiting for your review before spending money on this game.
Mack's musical prowess is hardcore
I'm having flashbacks of how Polygon played Doom in 2016
The graphics don't look shit. It's an aesthetic choice. The lighting and weapon designs look really good.
I didn't even know what a graphics card was during my first couple years of PC gaming in the 90s lol
Which review does he rap in ? I saw it a few days ago but forgot.
I find a good reload animation & sound can be a very satisfying element in shooters, even adding to the pacing aspect aswell.
Between the BFG song and Heat from The Cops
I'm waiting for the Mac Mix Tape!
Fair review
When are you publishing your full album Mac?
I have watched 1st episode with that song on my own and when my lass came back home we had few beers and i started singing THAT BIG FUCKIN GUN! the look she gave me - priceless
Mack Pieces of Wood nailed into your PC as a graphic card haha
Checkpoints. Can anyone remember the lovely floating blue diamond in the original tomb raider games or the ink ribbons on Resi!!!! Good old days.
I come back for the big fucking gun song
Love your songs!
"Gimmy a BIG fookin' gun!"
Now this is epic
Unreal 1 through 3 was my childhood memories
Wonder if there is or will be a mode to filter the pixelated graphics.
I doubt it. you can't switch between 3D models or 2D sprites, but that's about it.
I really don't mind when checkpoints are used to keep challenge consistent
Reminds me of the unreal tournament days 💯
where do i find these Worth a buy songs? I want them all! hilarious !!!!
He's got a point about the checkpoint system. Too frequent checkpoints brings you out of the immersion and not respawning enemies is just "cheating". Very much disagree with the alt-fire modes on guns though, that's just fun.
By the looks of it. The Checkpoint system seems optional.
Hey do you plan on doing a Worth A Buy review on Visage?
I must say, I had a blast of a time with this game. I was very impressed with it, and for me, the fun-factor was very high. Yeah, the CP system sucks a bit, but I can live with it.
The levels all feel great, and get better and better along the way, and that keeps you coming back for more. One of the most addictive games I played in a long time.
I agree with your negative points except the alternate firemodes. Unreal has alternate firemodes for every single gun.
I gave you a like for that song. Loved it!
£20 for four hours is WAB? Hmm... I realize there's more content to come, but without guarantee of how good the rest will be it's a dubious WAB
Good point!
I'm playing this in gamepass for pc, amazing game! very fast gunplay, the enemies dont let u rest, a solid 9/10 for me.
The graphics are very nice.
They managed to get a special mix. Oldshool but modern and very beautiful at the end.
Im playing since wolfenstein3d, duke nukem and all this,
Those games were great at their time but in memories much butter as they have been.
Prodeus is the first game what gave me the feeling i got back in the days.
Its amazing.
Thanks mac!
That title had me confused for a second
Ever since internet started to get common people wanted to start competing, leaderboards are needed. We also need moderation of leaderboards, there always is someone who takes a lap 30 sec faster than everyone else or otherwise has that time machine. BUT, DOOM didn't have high score tables because it was the start of the 90's,, you had to post you'r scores/times yourself (remember gran turismo) now we have internet and can compete and get hacked with and by everyone. And I also remember playing DOOM and just had to get by a room and tried like thirty times before success, that's what you want in a game, yes, the feeling of achievement.
I am yet to see an unhacked leaderboard which is why I don't really bother with them.
When I first saw previews and impressions of this game, I rolled my eyes, thinking of the over saturation of this sub-genre...bought and played it today and it completely won me over. Go support the devs and buy this game.
whenever mack says alt fire modes aren't old school that makes me think he's never played blood
Will i need to dig out my old Diamond Monster 3D card to play this? :)
ROFL, those meme songs are very catchy. Keep the good content coming
Not for me, but watching the videos is always fun.
This game looks really easy. Hope they improve this because it looks great.
2:57 yessss lol. My initial impression was it felt like brutal doom with Dark Forces maps. And yes, subconsciously I hit F6. and was sad.
I think Dusk is and always will be the definitive 'old school' shooter in my mind, such a fantastic game!
I totally agree. I never quite forgave Mack for making the procedurally generated MOTHERGUNSHIP his GOTY instead of the beautifully crafted Dusk :-D
Cheers Mack, did you play 'Ion Fury' by chance? That should be more to your liking.
Thanks for the review.
Ultrakill is the best Quake like experience you'll get. And it plays better than any game out there.
"Old school Shitter" Mack had to change it to "of Old", I feel ya Mack.. lol
Amid Evil, Dusk, Ion Maiden and also next year Brutal fate by the creator of
Brutal doom and also Graven which seems to be an open world FPS, i thought you'd love this stuff mack.
I love those songs... the bfg song, the console game song lol.. I think there is one more?
I don't play these kinds of games, but leaving enemies dead when you reload a checkpoint sounds bizarre.
Something worth noting is that the pixelated mess is actually a shader on top of normal 3D objects and animations, which can be enabled or disabled. I know it doesn't matter a lot gameplay wise, but I think it is something very impressive from a technical standpoint.
I wish they'd actually given us the option to have weapons look properly 3D as well.
I love his songs sooooo fun!
Don't hate on alt fire modes. BLOOD is a shooter of the old and it's the greatest of the greats, and it had alternate fire modes... Which were amazing!
FPS of old to some could mean unreal Mac, don't forget that's 2 decades old now
Mac I would love to see your opinion on Ghost Runner!
Yah forgot Marathon! Heathen.
Mack, i usually dont comment, however, If i need an honest review, this is the channel. You deserve so many more subs. Keep up what you are doing my man!
I just want a BFG! Hehehe. Catchy song
Maaack i still want all ur songs in one videoo pleasee
But can you grenade jump?
Any excuse to get a song in
Did they say what engine they developed this in? Quake, Unreal, Unity? I am always interested in games that ship out with a level editor.
Gameplay looks more like Quake but plays like DOOM of old.
Its Unity.
I appreciate your opinion. I appreciate the quick save on doom on ultra violence. Dont like the check points. Loving the iron sights
Mack are you doing reviews for Spider-Man Miles Morales and Godfall?
I think it actually looks pretty good. It has smart visuals mixed with classic 2D. Similar to how some games graphics changed games, like the original Borderlands, or XIII. But this mixes old 2D with some good graphics.
Prodeus has the best of both worlds. You can choose 240/360p modes and add adjustable CRT, scanline or pixel effects - or run it at native 4K and change the sprites to proper 3D models (and they're adding modelled weapons later). It can actually look really impressive.
@@DrTeeth66 cool. I'm really tempted. It's cheaper on green Man gaming too. Don't forget to use worth a buys link.