He is in a vegetative state, he isn't 'fighting' anything. What is wrong with you people? it is disrespectful. Get it through your skulls, he is *brain dead*
Michael and Brawn are a destructive combination. The ultimate engineer and the ultimate test pilot. Cant wait to see them back together. Game over everyone else!
I love ayrton too, but face it, ayrtons death saved him from being outclassed, outmuscled, beaten to a pulp by schumacher. schumacher completly assraped senna in the previous 3 races, he couldnt match schumachers pace during the race that is a fact. michael without all the penalties and black flags in 1994 was dominant. hill didnt deserve the title in 94
michael Formula One is nothing without you. I miss you forever, the best the best the best the best the best the best the best. Schumacher and Senna forever. n1
You are dreaming if you think Ayrton would have won in 1994 and 1995. Schumacher already had Senna behind the 8 ball in 1994. At 34 years of age, Senna was still a great driver, but Schumacher was better in every respect. More fit, worked better with the engineering staff, more of a team player and more dedicated to becoming the best. In the early to mid 90's, Senna had peaked as a driver, whereas Schumacher was arguably his equal and just getting better.
I hope after 6 years that you have matured and lost the rose tinted glasses. Hill brought the championship down to the last race in 94. If you are telling people on here that Senna wouldn't have had it wrapped up by 1 - 2 races before the end of season, I presume you are still strapped into a straitjacket all these years later.
@@_Odin_ He got banned for 2 races & disqualified for the british GP because he swerved in Front of Hill in the Formationlap and ignored first the Penalty & then the subsequent blag flag. Those events would not necessarily take place in a scenario where Senna is still alive. One can make an argument in Sennas favour, for sure, but i'm not sure that Hills Final Result is very representative for what would have happened.
Schumacher scored more points than Senna from his 3rd race in 1991 until last race against Senna on 1st may 1994, being a rookie. In 1996 Schumacher would have destroyed Senna. If Senna had not died, everyone now would consider Schumacher better than Senna. And almost every people would consider Schumacher the greatest driver in history!
schumi's R&D is what made the mercedes what it is... he left at just the wrong time... had he stayed 2 years more, he'd be 9 times champ and lewis would be a one time champion
hard to say. Schumacher had difrent driving style. He could drive on the limit. With these new save tyre rules he was just a racing driver like any other else.
i´m pretty shure if michael would drive the MB over the last 2-3 years, he would get at least one world championship. the mercedes was fast bevore he came and after he left. as he was at the team he got a car which was not compatitive. with todays mercedes it would be really hard for hamilton or rosberg to compete with him.
Brawn insisted that there had never been any intention for Schumacher to become the dominant driver when they worked together at Benetton and Ferrari. "First of all I never wanted Michael to dominate. Michael dominated because he was the best," he said. "There was never a structure that enabled him to dominate. He dominated because he was the fastest and most consistent driver. So we will have to see how the season develops.
Senna was dead for almost two years when Schumacher made his deal with Ferrari. Even if he had been alive, I doubt that this would have been the case. I think that Senna went to Williams because they had the best technology at the time and McLaren was no longer dominant as they were from 1988 to 1991. I doubt that Ayrton would have relished the thought going to a team (Ferrari) that hadn't had a race victory in the previous 3 racing seasons at 34 years of age.
Nope. Senna always fond of Ferrari, he wants to end his career in Ferrari. It was revealed later on that Senna is already made a deal to move and sign for Ferrari in 1996 (after his contract with Williams end). When Senna died in 1994, Ferrari just simply offer that contract to Schumacher, Jean Todt already 'eyeing' Schumy anyway. Schumacher considering this, fed-up and dissapoint with the way Benetton handled the controversial season of 1994 help this decision to be much easier, that's why he already announce and made his decision so early in 1995 season, I believe it was British GP, sometimes around half to the season when the championship and constructor is still wide open. Many quite surprise by this decision and believe it was a wrong move (why left one of the best team at that time anyway). But he prove his worth and made Ferrari formidable again! www.grandprix.com/ns/ns00217.html
Ferrari last had a World Championship Title on 1979. Schumacher probably drove a crappy car before it clinched its next title with Michael Schumacher on it and continued gathering more with him on it. Both Senna and Schumacher are awesome gods of the sport of Formula One. No one can compare to these two. Seven World Championship Titles for Schumacher, Three for Senna. But without comparing these numbers, go observe how both EQUALLY achieved popularity and level of praise.
I just laughed at JB complaining that Schumacher had the best car and the best team. Yeah, that's what great champions like Senna and Schumacher do, they surround themselves with the best of the best and build the best car. Unlike some drivers, who like other people to do that for them and land in a prepared bed (dutch expression) MS worked his ass off in every little detail and that's why he upped Benneton from good to great and Ferrari from great to the greatest.
Only after a tragic death, all controversy dies and absolute god status is granted. MS made the stupid mistake of staying alive. Now he will have to wait for time to grant him the status he deserves. In 20 or 30 years, when his records still stand, will nobody be able to deny how exceptional Schumacher has been. That's the price for staying alive. But judging by the thumbs up/down ratio of most Schumacher videos, the large majority of people have already accepted Schummi the greatest.
> ^ Actually the driver is ~20%, the car, the team behind and luck making up the rest of 80% . But without Schumacher the likes of Brawn, Byrne and Co. wouldn't have followed him to Ferrari and turn the Scuderia around. Schumacher's greatness comes from being able to spot, befriend/connect and attract the loyalty of such great men (Brawn, Byrne and Co.) and together to build the winning team and winning car. Schumacher was the greatest total package in Grand Prix racing history.
For me, Fangio is still the greatest, but you gotta respect Michael, not only won 7 times, but with 2 different teams and never had a teammate (coff ros/ham coff coff) who defeated him. As a Brazilian, for me it's just impossible who call Michael the goat, but even though he was a very dirty driver sometimes, he was very, very fast.
@samsemtex schumacher was the man. Senna who was in the Williams(superior to benetton) was trailing schumacher during the start of the 1994 season. And every race that shcumacher won put senna under even more presure to win, to take risks.
Just watch GP of Spain 1996 you can see what he could do. Stirling Moss said it was a demonstration of brilliance. He is on a level with Senna. Senna is a dead hero that's why he is supposed o be the greatest.
To all of u guys who thinking senna was better, Schumacher beat senna in the first year at Formel 1,while Schumacher getting better every year. So senna was a great driver but Schumacher is simply the best ever.
Sadly we won't be seeing the great man again in a race, he has got problems with his neck and he will not be coming back. I really wanted to see him again but thats the way it goes, at least we have seen him race in the past.
@@elta6241 They had traction control but it was never proven to be used during a race. Their excuse was the engine could rev so fast that it destroyed itself when not on load.
Biggest bucks? The Mercedes budget 2010 is 50 Mio. below McLaren and Ferrari. Schumacher wanted to leave Benetton because of all the problems he had 94. He wanted to do so after 94 but it was not possible. McLaren wanted to pull him out of his contract.
@abigobel x) If & bouts" 1. Senna´s wins came in the dominant winning mclaren-honda team. 2. Senna also stole 1 title, from Prost...... 3. Senna raced for 11 years,irregular performance and 16 collisions with other drivers... And there is Michael, the fastest in history of motorsport! What if, Schumacher joined the superior teams instead of disaster-ferrari ?
Bruno scored 70p in GP2 finished second, Hamilton 114p finished 1st, Rosberg 120p finished 1st. U can't say Rosberg is bad, he never had a car to win in F1. Williams is not that Williams it was years ago. Their budget is very low and they have no Newey anymore. Just wait what happens in a better car.
What experts, those 217 drivers have just an opinion. Lots of the most important champions didn't even vote, no Prost, no Lauda, no Räikkönen and so on. There is no possibilty to say Senna is better or Schumacher is better no one can prove it. Everything is about opinions.
@abigobel that is bullshit because if senna would'nt have died he still had no chance in 94. he had 30 points less after 3 races. no one ever could catch up 30p. the next thing is that without sennas dead maybe schumacher never left benetton for ferrari. one single event can change everything, drivers would have joined different cockpits.
@abigobel ... if 1989 was "stolen" from Senna, 1988 & 1990 were stolen from Prost. Before Suzuka 89, Prost led the championship with 76 points to Senna's 60, even if Senna won the race he couldn't win the title. He deserve only 1 championship : 1991. And Schumacher was better than Senna : even in the best car (Williams) with the best engine (V10 Renault) Senna couldn't beat the german.
Rosberg is on a level with Hamilton. He won the GP2 and that's why he is in F1. How should Schumacher team up with the other drivers? Cockpits all were occupied.
@Woutah2dmaX yeah I agree. Part of formula 1 is getting in the best car. Its still a team sport, you can be the best driver in history but if you drive a Hispania Racing car you wont be winning many championships.
He has the balls to come back after 3 years of absence. Isn't that enough? Senna took all his titles under McLaren-Honda, did he ride there coat-tail? So stop talking crap. After McLaren's star was going down he left to the next winning team Williams. The teams Schumacher joined all were not good for the championship. It was one stone missing to do this, it was Michael Schumacher.
How the hell should he sign a contract with his neck injury not healed. No team would have taken him in that situation. Even Mercedes GP waited till the confirmation of the doctors in december. Hamilton had no familiy name but Ron Dennis stood behind him since Lewis was 10.
Schumacher would have won the same amount of titles without that 3 or 4 team orders. In 99 Schumacher had to switch with Irvine, no one is bitching about this. The thing in austria 02 was unnecessary but it was Todt's decision and Michael really also was pissed. Even if you put Räikkönen or someone else to his side, Schumacher will be faster and you would say those losers are worth nothing.
But thats the whole point, isnt it? Why did Schumi have the best car always? My last post indicates that I believe that it was not coincidence Schumi was fighting for the ch'ship 11 of his 15 years in F1...He definitely has a positive effect on the car's development, as can be seen in 96, the Benetton years. Thats how F1 today is different from the pre-schumi era. The drivertoday is expected to work with the team, have high technical knowledge, a la alonso, and get the results.
aj2718281 just for your information - Schumacher did almost NEVER have the best car....only from 2001-2004 his car was the best. In 1992-1997 the Williams were the best cars, from 1998-2000 it were the McLarens...and 2005 and 2006 it were the Renaults...so for most of his career Schumacher was in a car that was not the best! Even though he had won most races, most championships!!!
YOU fool mallamoozoo, Senna just got the crowd in his back because he died so tragically. Its known that dead artists or drivers whatever get more known and appreciated then the still living. But go to Google's newsgroup search old topics when Senna was living. He was at least as controversial as Schumacher (both as a driver and as a person) is now, and no, not everybody considered him as the greatest thing since sliced bread. His death made him more popular - also as a driver. Sad, but true
But not every driver carried the same amount of racing fuel u knob. Schumacher usually went into race quite heavy. 10kg of fuel mean 2-5/10 depends on curcuit. When u include that Schumacher would have 20 poles more. Quali means nothing, u get 0 points for that. The race win counts. The car with more fuel in tank at the start has an advantage in tactics that's why Schumacher was always heavy. Heavy means u can't go always for pole.
Mallamoozoo Take some time to think and its not so straightforward. Where were Brawn and Byrne BEFORE schu came into f1? Thats right, they were still in Benetton, working but not getting any results. In 1996, Schu went to Ferrari, Brawn, Byrne stayed at Benetton, but Ferrari finished AHEAD of Benetton that year in the constructors. Evidence that Schumi was the catalyst. Brawn, with the experience of working with Schumi, is now helping Button.
Stop talking crap. When Schumacher left Benetton he left without Brawn and Byrne. After 96 Todt and Schumacher convinced Byrne not to retire and come to Ferrari. The reason for that was that the Ferrari designer John Barnard was not fexible and didn't want to come from the U.K. to Italy. Why didN#t Schumacher stay with Benetton when he just wanted to ride Brawn's coat tail?
@Paramorefan555 Nah I don't think we can really compare cars just yet. Only one race gone and all teams are still figuring out their own cars, tyres etc. It definately looks like a stronger car than the previous two years though.
I'm actually asking out of curiosity and not just to be rhetorical and one-sided but I read for fact that the deal with Ferrari and Schumacher was ORIGINALLY intended for Senna, before his death. I don't know much about F-1 so that's why I'd never make any bold statements like I knew anything but I'm interested about these two titans because they were so good in their respective sport. But would it logical to deduce that if Senna was w/ Ferrari Schu would not have been as dominant later? Reply!
It is completely useless to discuss with u. When u go heavier in the race u get less poles. When u look at the 1 stops Schumacher allways was one of the latest stoppers. That is proven and he nearly allways was heavier than Barrichello.
Is that Mallamoozoo still here stalking schumacher videos! - Face it, Schumacher in the end would've edged Senna, especially in the fuel stop era. His fitness level would've crushed Senna in terms of getting 20 laps worth of qualifying like laps to win a race.
And last season Button was favourized over Barrichello? Come on stop that crap. Schumacher even had a disadvantage he used the tyres more, why he often had to take the harder ones in contrary to Barrichello who could always use the softest version.
@piro4351 Schumy is a fantastic driver, one of the greatest, but the idea that he would've outclassed Senna is wishful thinking. Senna's Williams was a very difficult car to drive, fast, but very challenging. The Benettons were running illegal traction and launch controls, (as were the Ferraris I understand) which explains why Senna was faster over one lap but not over a full race distance. The assumption you make is based on just 3 results, but the results alone don't tell the whole story.
And now is he too prime ?!?!? And Rosberg... is he too young ?!?!? For what does Schumacher actually experience is ?!?! No excuses for Schumacher please !!! If Senna not dead: 1- Senna (7 Championships 88,90,91,94,95,96 and 97). 2- Schumacher (5 Chamiponships 00, 01, 02, 03 and 04). 3- Fangio (5 Championships) 4- Prost (4 Championships) And if 1989 wasn't stolen from Senna it would be 8 Championships, that is the limit, maybe Vettel can do it !!!
it¨s a joke? You can´t compare Airton and Michael, we only have to enjoy it, and also Ayrton sais in Belgium that Michael will be someone bigger when he crashed his car
@samsemtex Man, why so much arguing and hollering! Schumacher's favourite driver is Ayrton Senna! Wanna keep lurking around the same thing? Gosh, people just don't know anything about the sport
Stop talking crap 200 times, haha. Tell me how often they switched places? Why should Schumacher ran from Räikkönen? He is no match for him, even Massa was better in the last time. Without the team order in the last race switching places between Massa and Kimi he even wouldn't be world champion. But that is ok, nothing to bitch about. 217 actual drivers? Tell me how that works?
Greatest driver EVER .
"The best racing driver of all time", that says it all.
Nobody will eclipse Michael, perfection at every corner, motorsport wholeheartedly misses your presence. #keepfighting 🙌🏻❤️🤗
He is in a vegetative state, he isn't 'fighting' anything. What is wrong with you people? it is disrespectful. Get it through your skulls, he is *brain dead*
Stats don't lie, he is and will forever be the GOAT.
Michael and Brawn are a destructive combination. The ultimate engineer and the ultimate test pilot. Cant wait to see them back together. Game over everyone else!
Its so sad I Miss u shumi
you are not alone
I love ayrton too, but face it, ayrtons death saved him from being outclassed, outmuscled, beaten to a pulp by schumacher. schumacher completly assraped senna in the previous 3 races, he couldnt match schumachers pace during the race that is a fact. michael without all the penalties and black flags in 1994 was dominant. hill didnt deserve the title in 94
michael Formula One is nothing without you.
I miss you forever, the best the best the best the best the best the best the best.
Schumacher and Senna forever. n1
You are dreaming if you think Ayrton would have won in 1994 and 1995. Schumacher already had Senna behind the 8 ball in 1994. At 34 years of age, Senna was still a great driver, but Schumacher was better in every respect. More fit, worked better with the engineering staff, more of a team player and more dedicated to becoming the best. In the early to mid 90's, Senna had peaked as a driver, whereas Schumacher was arguably his equal and just getting better.
I hope after 6 years that you have matured and lost the rose tinted glasses. Hill brought the championship down to the last race in 94. If you are telling people on here that Senna wouldn't have had it wrapped up by 1 - 2 races before the end of season, I presume you are still strapped into a straitjacket all these years later.
@@_Odin_ He got banned for 2 races & disqualified for the british GP because he swerved in Front of Hill in the Formationlap and ignored first the Penalty & then the subsequent blag flag. Those events would not necessarily take place in a scenario where Senna is still alive.
One can make an argument in Sennas favour, for sure, but i'm not sure that Hills Final Result is very representative for what would have happened.
As good as Schumacher was, yes Senna would have beaten him.
@@elta6241 As good as Senna was; he didn't have the fitness level to beat Schumacher.
Thanks you tube to put this to my reccomendation in 2021
schumi is better than senna
GOAT💯
Miss you love you shumi!!!
Schumacher scored more points than Senna from his 3rd race in 1991 until last race against Senna on 1st may 1994, being a rookie.
In 1996 Schumacher would have destroyed Senna. If Senna had not died, everyone now would consider Schumacher better than Senna.
And almost every people would consider Schumacher the greatest driver in history!
The Best driver in the world 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🙏❤️
schumi's R&D is what made the mercedes what it is... he left at just the wrong time... had he stayed 2 years more, he'd be 9 times champ and lewis would be a one time champion
true words
hard to say. Schumacher had difrent driving style. He could drive on the limit. With these new save tyre rules he was just a racing driver like any other else.
i´m pretty shure if michael would drive the MB over the last 2-3 years, he would get at least one world championship. the mercedes was fast bevore he came and after he left. as he was at the team he got a car which was not compatitive. with todays mercedes it would be really hard for hamilton or rosberg to compete with him.
Robert Bock yes exactly... he'd be ten times champion by now... he was the best ever
dickyp1 yes and almost no one remembers this
the best driver has to make the best car with his team, can't just wait it'll come as a gift.
Brawn insisted that there had never been any intention for Schumacher to become the dominant driver when they worked together at Benetton and Ferrari.
"First of all I never wanted Michael to dominate. Michael dominated because he was the best," he said. "There was never a structure that enabled him to dominate. He dominated because he was the fastest and most consistent driver. So we will have to see how the season develops.
Senna was dead for almost two years when Schumacher made his deal with Ferrari. Even if he had been alive, I doubt that this would have been the case. I think that Senna went to Williams because they had the best technology at the time and McLaren was no longer dominant as they were from 1988 to 1991. I doubt that Ayrton would have relished the thought going to a team (Ferrari) that hadn't had a race victory in the previous 3 racing seasons at 34 years of age.
Nope. Senna always fond of Ferrari, he wants to end his career in Ferrari.
It was revealed later on that Senna is already made a deal to move and sign for Ferrari in 1996 (after his contract with Williams end).
When Senna died in 1994, Ferrari just simply offer that contract to Schumacher, Jean Todt already 'eyeing' Schumy anyway.
Schumacher considering this, fed-up and dissapoint with the way Benetton handled the controversial season of 1994 help this decision to be much easier, that's why he already announce and made his decision so early in 1995 season, I believe it was British GP, sometimes around half to the season when the championship and constructor is still wide open.
Many quite surprise by this decision and believe it was a wrong move (why left one of the best team at that time anyway). But he prove his worth and made Ferrari formidable again!
www.grandprix.com/ns/ns00217.html
Ferrari last had a World Championship Title on 1979. Schumacher probably drove a crappy car before it clinched its next title with Michael Schumacher on it and continued gathering more with him on it.
Both Senna and Schumacher are awesome gods of the sport of Formula One. No one can compare to these two. Seven World Championship Titles for Schumacher, Three for Senna. But without comparing these numbers, go observe how both EQUALLY achieved popularity and level of praise.
Great video
I like this guy.
I just laughed at JB complaining that Schumacher had the best car and the best team.
Yeah, that's what great champions like Senna and Schumacher do, they surround themselves with the best of the best and build the best car. Unlike some drivers, who like other people to do that for them and land in a prepared bed (dutch expression)
MS worked his ass off in every little detail and that's why he upped Benneton from good to great and Ferrari from great to the greatest.
I guess that means that Schumacher was way better at winning races then, like more than 100 percent better than Senna? Yes, that does "says it all".
Only after a tragic death, all controversy dies and absolute god status is granted. MS made the stupid mistake of staying alive. Now he will have to wait for time to grant him the status he deserves.
In 20 or 30 years, when his records still stand, will nobody be able to deny how exceptional Schumacher has been. That's the price for staying alive.
But judging by the thumbs up/down ratio of most Schumacher videos, the large majority of people have already accepted Schummi the greatest.
Its bout consistency that makes you a world champion!!
The synonymous of motor racing
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^ Actually the driver is ~20%, the car, the team behind and luck making up the rest of 80% .
But without Schumacher the likes of Brawn, Byrne and Co. wouldn't have followed him to Ferrari and turn the Scuderia around.
Schumacher's greatness comes from being able to spot, befriend/connect and attract the loyalty of such great men (Brawn, Byrne and Co.) and together to build the winning team and winning car.
Schumacher was the greatest total package in Grand Prix racing history.
For me, Fangio is still the greatest, but you gotta respect Michael, not only won 7 times, but with 2 different teams and never had a teammate (coff ros/ham coff coff) who defeated him. As a Brazilian, for me it's just impossible who call Michael the goat, but even though he was a very dirty driver sometimes, he was very, very fast.
Hope he gets better soon
Why does every Schumi vid turn into an argument about whether Senna was better or not...
nice to hear that kind of respect from a nin shu Fan...thx
@samsemtex schumacher was the man. Senna who was in the Williams(superior to benetton) was trailing schumacher during the start of the 1994 season. And every race that shcumacher won put senna under even more presure to win, to take risks.
Absolutely brilliant video ! Thanks a million !
Eddie Jordan " We thought he found a short cut" LOL!
Just watch GP of Spain 1996 you can see what he could do. Stirling Moss said it was a demonstration of brilliance. He is on a level with Senna. Senna is a dead hero that's why he is supposed o be the greatest.
To all of u guys who thinking senna was better, Schumacher beat senna in the first year at Formel 1,while Schumacher getting better every year. So senna was a great driver but Schumacher is simply the best ever.
Sadly we won't be seeing the great man again in a race, he has got problems with his neck and he will not be coming back. I really wanted to see him again but thats the way it goes, at least we have seen him race in the past.
Lol. 1992: schumacher's first full season and beats senna.
@ReclusiveDuck It has never been proven that benetton used illegal traction control and launch control.
Yes, it has.
@@elta6241 They had traction control but it was never proven to be used during a race. Their excuse was the engine could rev so fast that it destroyed itself when not on load.
his english is really good
He's back!
Senna was the last driver killed and G. Villeneuve has also such a status. 6 race wins and in the top 10 of all time.
Biggest bucks? The Mercedes budget 2010 is 50 Mio. below McLaren and Ferrari.
Schumacher wanted to leave Benetton because of all the problems he had 94. He wanted to do so after 94 but it was not possible. McLaren wanted to pull him out of his contract.
Prost never was trashed by Senna, he made more points when they were team mates.
@abigobel
x) If & bouts"
1. Senna´s wins came in the dominant winning mclaren-honda team.
2. Senna also stole 1 title, from Prost......
3. Senna raced for 11 years,irregular performance and 16 collisions with other drivers...
And there is Michael, the fastest in history of motorsport!
What if, Schumacher joined the superior teams instead of disaster-ferrari ?
Senna even didn't wanna do the testing in that period, Berger did that.
Go Schumi, show us what you got in the the F60 cockpit in Valencia!!
@ Ihonzzzz,
hope God bless all this Michael amen~~~
Bruno scored 70p in GP2 finished second, Hamilton 114p finished 1st, Rosberg 120p finished 1st.
U can't say Rosberg is bad, he never had a car to win in F1. Williams is not that Williams it was years ago. Their budget is very low and they have no Newey anymore.
Just wait what happens in a better car.
interesting to hear button say its not about the drivers but more about the car. id say that was definitely the case in his world championship season
youre right he was more honourd by his dead but its sad and true
The King. Very much missed.
RIP Michael Schumacher.
What experts, those 217 drivers have just an opinion. Lots of the most important champions didn't even vote, no Prost, no Lauda, no Räikkönen and so on. There is no possibilty to say Senna is better or Schumacher is better no one can prove it. Everything is about opinions.
I'm not going to bother arguing over whether Senna or Shumacher is the best, but all I'm going to say is that SCHUMACHER IS GOD
Toyota also had that plan and invested much more money than Ferrari did. How many victorys did they have?
last year u can see how heavy is each car. 2010 everybody goes into quali without race fuel, so back to the roots.
@DanC230K do you honestly believe michael would tell a reporter, who asks him this question ''whos the best ever'' and name himself? please..
@abigobel You cant compare them like that...Schumacher was still very young and not even near his prime when he raced with Senna.
@abigobel
that is bullshit because if senna would'nt have died he still had no chance in 94. he had 30 points less after 3 races. no one ever could catch up 30p. the next thing is that without sennas dead maybe schumacher never left benetton for ferrari. one single event can change everything, drivers would have joined different cockpits.
@abigobel ... if 1989 was "stolen" from Senna, 1988 & 1990 were stolen from Prost. Before Suzuka 89, Prost led the championship with 76 points to Senna's 60, even if Senna won the race he couldn't win the title. He deserve only 1 championship : 1991. And Schumacher was better than Senna : even in the best car (Williams) with the best engine (V10 Renault) Senna couldn't beat the german.
Maybe he will come back in 2010 for Mercedes and this is more than rumors. He will be testing the next 2 weeks in Abu Dhabi. He still left Ferrari.
@abigobel and If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas
Rosberg is on a level with Hamilton. He won the GP2 and that's why he is in F1. How should Schumacher team up with the other drivers? Cockpits all were occupied.
Oh, and if Button wins 91 gp, 7 world chpionships, and drives amazing rain races, then yes, I think he can be considered a candidate for GOAT :)
@Woutah2dmaX yeah I agree. Part of formula 1 is getting in the best car. Its still a team sport, you can be the best driver in history but if you drive a Hispania Racing car you wont be winning many championships.
He has the balls to come back after 3 years of absence. Isn't that enough?
Senna took all his titles under McLaren-Honda, did he ride there coat-tail? So stop talking crap. After McLaren's star was going down he left to the next winning team Williams. The teams Schumacher joined all were not good for the championship. It was one stone missing to do this, it was Michael Schumacher.
Fue el mas grande sin discución, aunque le duela reconocerlo a los fanaticos de Senna.
How the hell should he sign a contract with his neck injury not healed. No team would have taken him in that situation. Even Mercedes GP waited till the confirmation of the doctors in december.
Hamilton had no familiy name but Ron Dennis stood behind him since Lewis was 10.
Schumacher would have won the same amount of titles without that 3 or 4 team orders. In 99 Schumacher had to switch with Irvine, no one is bitching about this. The thing in austria 02 was unnecessary but it was Todt's decision and Michael really also was pissed. Even if you put Räikkönen or someone else to his side, Schumacher will be faster and you would say those losers are worth nothing.
Any part 3?
But thats the whole point, isnt it?
Why did Schumi have the best car always? My last post indicates that I believe that it was not coincidence Schumi was fighting for the ch'ship 11 of his 15 years in F1...He definitely has a positive effect on the car's development, as can be seen in 96, the Benetton years. Thats how F1 today is different from the pre-schumi era. The drivertoday is expected to work with the team, have high technical knowledge, a la alonso, and get the results.
aj2718281 just for your information - Schumacher did almost NEVER have the best car....only from 2001-2004 his car was the best. In 1992-1997 the Williams were the best cars, from 1998-2000 it were the McLarens...and 2005 and 2006 it were the Renaults...so for most of his career Schumacher was in a car that was not the best! Even though he had won most races, most championships!!!
YOU fool mallamoozoo, Senna just got the crowd in his back because he died so tragically. Its known that dead artists or drivers whatever get more known and appreciated then the still living. But go to Google's newsgroup search old topics when Senna was living. He was at least as controversial as Schumacher (both as a driver and as a person) is now, and no, not everybody considered him as the greatest thing since sliced bread. His death made him more popular - also as a driver. Sad, but true
you could of warned us of that jonathan legard was in it
I have watched a 100 videos since I found out he's coming back. I've read 2 biographies :( I think i've developed a man-crush
But not every driver carried the same amount of racing fuel u knob. Schumacher usually went into race quite heavy. 10kg of fuel mean 2-5/10 depends on curcuit. When u include that Schumacher would have 20 poles more.
Quali means nothing, u get 0 points for that. The race win counts. The car with more fuel in tank at the start has an advantage in tactics that's why Schumacher was always heavy. Heavy means u can't go always for pole.
Mallamoozoo
Take some time to think and its not so straightforward. Where were Brawn and Byrne BEFORE schu came into f1? Thats right, they were still in Benetton, working but not getting any results.
In 1996, Schu went to Ferrari, Brawn, Byrne stayed at Benetton, but Ferrari finished AHEAD of Benetton that year in the constructors.
Evidence that Schumi was the catalyst. Brawn, with the experience of working with Schumi, is now helping Button.
@abigobel PERFECT!!! :)
Stop talking crap. When Schumacher left Benetton he left without Brawn and Byrne. After 96 Todt and Schumacher convinced Byrne not to retire and come to Ferrari. The reason for that was that the Ferrari designer John Barnard was not fexible and didn't want to come from the U.K. to Italy. Why didN#t Schumacher stay with Benetton when he just wanted to ride Brawn's coat tail?
any one else notice that the interviewer is jonathan legard?
@Paramorefan555 Nah I don't think we can really compare cars just yet. Only one race gone and all teams are still figuring out their own cars, tyres etc. It definately looks like a stronger car than the previous two years though.
That's (Felice) Nazzaro, not Nazaro.
Mea Culpa.
if your name is michael are you destine to be the best? i mean come on..michael jackson michael jordan and now michael schumacher..geez
Fastest lap means nothing in Sennas era? Why does Prost have much more fastest laps or Mansell?
@sskgrs senna wasnt strong in 94.
I'm actually asking out of curiosity and not just to be rhetorical and one-sided but I read for fact that the deal with Ferrari and Schumacher was ORIGINALLY intended for Senna, before his death. I don't know much about F-1 so that's why I'd never make any bold statements like I knew anything but I'm interested about these two titans because they were so good in their respective sport. But would it logical to deduce that if Senna was w/ Ferrari Schu would not have been as dominant later? Reply!
well, the big sponsor contracts schumacher landed almost compensate that. show me any dirver who did that?
I think it's a Prodigy Song... don't hold me to it sorry
you re totaly right and mallamoozoo is here again to show senna is better he is dont sure of it thats why he is always saying that senna is better
lol I know itshould have meant Greatest Of All Times, but even you don´t believe it:D.....Senna? only a goat.
Schumi? The Champ :D
Let's see how he drifts...
It is completely useless to discuss with u. When u go heavier in the race u get less poles. When u look at the 1 stops Schumacher allways was one of the latest stoppers. That is proven and he nearly allways was heavier than Barrichello.
Is that Mallamoozoo still here stalking schumacher videos! - Face it, Schumacher in the end would've edged Senna, especially in the fuel stop era. His fitness level would've crushed Senna in terms of getting 20 laps worth of qualifying like laps to win a race.
And last season Button was favourized over Barrichello? Come on stop that crap. Schumacher even had a disadvantage he used the tyres more, why he often had to take the harder ones in contrary to Barrichello who could always use the softest version.
Schumacher just was quicker in 185 races that's the order.
@piro4351 Schumy is a fantastic driver, one of the greatest, but the idea that he would've outclassed Senna is wishful thinking. Senna's Williams was a very difficult car to drive, fast, but very challenging. The Benettons were running illegal traction and launch controls, (as were the Ferraris I understand) which explains why Senna was faster over one lap but not over a full race distance. The assumption you make is based on just 3 results, but the results alone don't tell the whole story.
And now is he too prime ?!?!?
And Rosberg... is he too young ?!?!?
For what does Schumacher actually experience is ?!?!
No excuses for Schumacher please !!!
If Senna not dead:
1- Senna (7 Championships 88,90,91,94,95,96 and 97).
2- Schumacher (5 Chamiponships 00, 01, 02, 03 and 04).
3- Fangio (5 Championships)
4- Prost (4 Championships)
And if 1989 wasn't stolen from Senna it would be 8 Championships, that is the limit, maybe Vettel can do it !!!
And what if they voted for Schumacher? What a stupid comment.
Michael Schumacher - Dirty Cheating Machine
it¨s a joke? You can´t compare Airton and Michael, we only have to enjoy it, and also Ayrton sais in Belgium that Michael will be someone bigger when he crashed his car
@samsemtex Man, why so much arguing and hollering! Schumacher's favourite driver is Ayrton Senna! Wanna keep lurking around the same thing? Gosh, people just don't know anything about the sport
thumbnail makes him look like he's out of peppa pig lmao
Stop talking crap 200 times, haha. Tell me how often they switched places?
Why should Schumacher ran from Räikkönen? He is no match for him, even Massa was better in the last time. Without the team order in the last race switching places between Massa and Kimi he even wouldn't be world champion. But that is ok, nothing to bitch about.
217 actual drivers? Tell me how that works?