It Needn't be this HARD to Learn Chinese!
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
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00:00 - Intro
01:20 - Characters
02:12 - My Chinese Class 😎
06:05 - Paradox of Vocabs
07:22 - Pronunciation Tones
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I'm learning mandarin has been 4 months, im having a good time learning it😊it's kind of fun actually.
He just said a total BS. I'm learning Mandarin (there's no such thing as "Chinese language" only Chinese LANGUAGES) just now. But I've learned Japanese before. In Japanese, that uses way less characters, 2,000 characters won't make you able to read not even the simples book. Let a lone a REAL book. You're gonna need over 6,000 characters, over 30,000 words to be safe IN JAPANESE. Let alone in Mandarin. 2,000 won't even get started. don't be fooled by this video.
Don't get frustrated as I was when I thought 2,000 characters and 6,000 words would make me able to read most things in Japanese. It's simply NOT TRUE at all.
I agree it's fun!
@@JohnnyLynnLee it's possible to read simple texts with as few as 500 characters... But most Chinese speakers who I've seen talk about it stress knowing WORDS as opposed to characters. I think it comes down to which 2000 characters you know and what it is that you're trying to read.
I clicked on this video thinking you are uncle roger
Edit: Sorry If I am coming off as racist, but you look so like him.
Ha! that's true with 🟠outfit lol
😂
🤣🤣🤣
Me too bro.
Same orange t-shirt
Oh My God ! Stressing over tones is real ! I was so worried about my tones that it killed all my energy and now I skipped last two days' lessons because of it. Thanks for the piece of information
This is literally one of ours dream to be able to speak Chinese language 😮❤
Hi York. Thank you so much for creating and sharing this video. I’m currently learning Japanese and Korean. Previously, I learned Mandarin but stopped because it was too overwhelming for me. Now, I think I’ll pick up Mandarin again soon. Thanks again, York
Nice Job. You're on the way. 加油！
I went to China last week as a tourist. I was always afraid of learning Chinese "wrongly" and insult someone (the classic case of MA as mother or horse). But Chinese people tried their best to understand, and ALL of them were impressed that I was trying to speak Chinese instead of English that the bad pronunciation was never a problem. In most cases they could not understand, but they were never insulted. So what I get of this experience: DON'T BE AFRAID OF LEARNING CHINESE!! People will not your are not calling they horses in a restaurant
The book series 'The Three Body Problem' is based off of is my favorite!!
Thank you. I'm actually learning mandarin on my own . This. Helped a lot. Hope you can do more videos on this topic
I should admit that even though I try my best to speak English it's very hard to understand other accents. I'm french by the way so when you're saying 法国 it warmed my heart😆.
J'apprends le français haha et mon colocataire est un français sympathique
Another content creator suggested learning the tone as part of the unique sound and meaning of the word. Another suggests ear training as a precursor to native sounding speech. I'm adding to my study toolbox your idea of finding little hooks of background knowledge about the origin of the characters to help make them easier to recognize.
Wow, you make a lot of sense. Thanks for the encouragement 🙏
Wow, good job on the video 👍 Im glad this was recommended to me
Great insight
Thank you. It was helpful ❤
Chinese certainly isn't one of the easiest languages to learn, but when you stop trying to be fluent in too short a time, then learning gets much more relaxed. I take my time and am always happy when I recognise words in a song or in a c-drama, or when I'm able to read a short paragraph and understand it. The part about the Han Zi is so true!!! I may not know what the new Han Zi means, but breaking it down to its components gives me at least an idea.
Or my mnemonics, i.e. they helped me to memorise 零食 (líng shí), which means snacks, but in my head it's "zero food".
Yes lol it's confusing sometimes.
Suggestion #1
Learn Pinyin and Bopomofo
(Bopomofo is more accurate than Pinyin)
Suggestion #2
Learn the radicals of each Hanzi.
Suggestion #3
Realize that Chinese have many homophones! Many words sound the same or almost the same.
Suggestion #4
Realize that Chinese has simple grammar. Start with grammar, to get the nessessary confidence boost.
the best summary ever; I would add just one more item:
Suggestion #5: find one to three native Chinese people to start practicing with, even if you're a beginner. This will save you a lot of time in learning the practical dynamics of the language and you'll also be able to correct your pronunciation mistakes (which are not easy).
I'd also add listen to as much modern Mandarin as possible, via news broadcasts, podcasts, TV shows, movies, etc. Immersion in the natural sound of the language helps to train your ear and provides a variety of models for your own speech.
Love learning Chinese 🥰
Thank you for this nice video
The motivation is the key 💪💪
I feel like Im watching Uncle Roger
Ayaah
Really great video!! I have been learning Chinese for 10 months now and I’m still struggling how to learn it correctly but this video helped me a lot thanks :)
He just said a total BS. I'm learning Mandarin (there's no such thing as "Chinese language" only Chinese LANGUAGES) just now. But I've learned Japanese before. In Japanese, that uses way less characters, 2,000 characters won't make you able to read not even the simples book. Let a lone a REAL book. You're gonna need over 6,000 characters, over 30,000 words to be safe IN JAPANESE. Let alone in Mandarin. 2,000 won't even get started. don't be fooled by this video.
@@JohnnyLynnLeestop copy and pasting your comment 😭 one comment is enough to explain yourself
@@bensabyss Is enough to show I DID what you are trying to do, with English, Italian, and Japanese. And I'm still doing with Vietnamese and I just started with Mandarin. So I KNOW FOR A FACT that what he is telling you s just a bunch of lies. And he's not the only one. They tell it believing will help people of not giving up. But it ha the exact opposite effect. 2,000 kanji/hanzi won't even get you off the ground. And TODAY I'm almost as fluent in Japanese as I'm in English, being a Brazilian to PROVE that.
@@bensabyss It's a lie. I'm FLUETN in Japanese and now I can tell and PROVE that's a lie. If you don't believe you'll just waste a HUGE amount of time and energy, like I did. Just facts.
@@bensabyss You don't believe? Make the test yourself. At least for reading I know way more than 2,000 Chinese hanzi, because I know Japanese. You know how much of the following video (which is subtitled) I can understand? JACK SH&&!. So save this video here and also the following video titled: 整個重慶都在“騙”胖貓！“純愛戰神”21歲男孩被27歲女友分手，跳下大橋！王者榮耀裡的“通天代”，現實裡的苦情男。 | 胖猫事件 | 王者荣耀 and when you get to your precious 2,000 hanzi come back here and tell us all what she is talking about in this video. You'll be waiting for you. You'll understand NOTHING of this video going to only 2,000 hanzi.
Last night i had a dream in which i was learning Chinese.
😂
Love the video !
I am using the Mandarin Blueprint method and so far I am really enjoying it.
In 1 month I have learnt 250 characters and know the meaning, tone and pronouciaton of each.
I have not purchased the full course, but if I only need 2000-3000 characters, I feel like I could get to that within 6 months.
I am devoting at least 3-5 hours a day as I want to live in Taiwan for a few months.
I am going to set a dat 6 months from now to book a ticket no matter what.
加油！You're on the way.
Congratulations for you material. I love the video.
I’m currently on hsk3 and it has been tough to kind of keep track of what I’ve learned and what new stuff affects the grammar. From learners perspective, do you have some advice?
I appreciate your help 🙏
If you don't speak in the correct tones, how does one differentiate with other similar sounding words?
Context?
Chinese is a very contextual language. Tones can get lost in conversation.
Good question. Cz I found the people around me who learn Chinese kind of OVER tone accuracy...so i shared these tips for those beginners. But later on we definitely learn tone hard, cz tone is soooo important.
If I understand correctly, modern Chinese (Mandarin) singing doesn’t use tones but people understand the lyrics in context, I could be wrong though??
Haiyaaah we got nephew Jin
Chinese is more difficult after watching this
I want to learn Chinese because I am listening a lot to a Taiwanese band (No Party for Cao Dong) and also picked some Chinese games on Steam (Xuan Yuan Sword 7)
I will not focus too much on the characters when I begin my journey
But I gonna let for 2025... This year I want to still reach intermediate level in the languages I am focusing at the moment (Korean and Russian)
Thank you for mentioning the name of the band. I searched it on yt out of curiousity and I loved it❤️
I haven't watched 三体 yet, but I red all the books and I love them. best books ive ever read. one thing I was thinking about: what if I learn every character meaning of every Hanji (including the meaning of combining Hanji), also grammar and all the other systanx stuff, BUT I won't learn how to speak and read those Hanji loud out. so I would be able to read a Chinese book and I could explain the meaning of the sentence in my mother tongue, but I couldn't read the sentence in Chinese actually, as I don't know how to pronounce the characters. ive never seen a human doing this kind of language learning, what do you think about it?
Great video! I started learning madarin 3 weeks ago here in Brazil, i was so excited, but the more you learn the more impossible it looks. 😅 I just have a question , when people are speaking fast in the daily life , like a whole sentence , does they really pronounce all the tones in every syllable or it's not necessary?
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Oi Evelyn. É essencial aprender os tons.
I'm also Brzilian. just said a total BS. I'm learning Mandarin (there's no such thing as "Chinese language" only Chinese LANGUAGES) just now. But I've learned Japanese before. In Japanese, that uses way less characters, 2,000 characters won't make you able to read not even the simples book. Let a lone a REAL book. You're gonna need over 6,000 characters, over 30,000 words to be safe IN JAPANESE. Let alone in Mandarin. 2,000 won't even get started. don't be fooled by this video.
And as I've learned VEITANMESE too what he said about TONES is also false. Tones ARE important.
One things is a "conversation" (actually a drill) in ITALKI). Other thing is a REAL conversation with and educated adult. don't be fooled as I was.
Yes, they do. Unlike you (and other learners) people who grow up speaking Chinese don’t even think about the tones, it just works that way. Just how you know how to pronounce pão and you don’t need to think about it.
@@agme8045 You don't know what it takes to be at this level of "yo don't even to think about it"? that means it's unconscious. That's a hell lot of exposure my friend. Tones MATTER. If you get it wrong you WONT be understood period. What he is talking about that "even natives get it wrong" it's not what it makes it easier it what makes it harder! That's tonal sandhi. Look it up. they ARE NOT getting it "wrong". they are getting it RIGHT. It's just so happens tones can also CHANGE in a sentence. But they change following a pattern! Randomness is not a pattern! Keep it in kind. It's like Japanese learners saying "pitch accent doesn't mater" because the pitch accent is different in Kansai dialect, for instance. Yeah, but Kansai dialect is a PATTERN. It's not random. they change always in the same places! It's NOT like you as a foreigner randonly getting things wrong.
Tbh if it's in Pinyin i can have. Full conci with my malaysian Chinese friends.
Your explanation of 国 is kinda cool, but that is the simplified character. The same story will not apply to the traditional character which looks like this 國.
It's time for you to find out why 玉=或🤫. The idea is from classical Chinese so it isn't quite obvious for beginners.
@@z-sx do you mean that 或 used to be written looking a bit like 玉, so 國 eventually became the accepted version of 国? Or do you mean something else? I was more curious about what story York would use to explain 或 inside 口. I find it fascinating how people create stories for the characters because I usually forget the stories very quickly while it seems to work for other people.
@@KaruMedve 或=域，國=中或=中域=中土=王域。玉=yu4=域，美玉，I wouldn't explain too much on this since it's all about beliefs. Chinese characters are sketches, you have freedom to do it differently just like English accents 😉
囯 "looks like" 国 “looks like" 國
Gonna "sounds like" going to
You don't even need to remember it, it's a skill you would get automatically when you forget or practice too much on a character.
@@z-sx Thanks!
Yes, that's true. I just learned Mandarin with simplified Chinese when I was 6, but I acknowledge that Traditional Chinese is original with I grow up.😊
I thought you were uncle Roger New York channel
我在学习中文
加油！
uncle roger
i thought u are uncle roger….
Uncle Ro... oh
I heard chinese is so hard that you have to learn words instead of letters that make words... so reading their scriptures would be stupid as you woould have to know all words before recitation and understanding of whom made the language Like I learned somali language that way and can speak and wright it fluently...
"Needn't" ?????
This is common in the UK I believe. According to some stuff I found in Google, it is used in the US, but rarely. I usually hear it in the phrase "you needn't bother", but I do not live in the US.
I think he was trying to say "shouldn't"
It is a word, or are you suggesting he isn't using the word correctly?
@@ZFCaioIt’s a real word
It is correct.
You just said a total BS. I'm learning Mandarin (there's no such thing as "Chinese language" only Chinese LANGUAGES) just now. But I've learned Japanese before. In Japanese, that uses way less characters, 2,000 characters won't make you able to read not even the simples book. Let a lone a REAL book. You're gonna need over 6,000 characters, over 30,000 words to be safe IN JAPANESE. Let alone in Mandarin. 2,000 won't even get you started. Don't be fooled by this video.
He didn’t come up with any of this ideas/concepts. If you’ve taken the HSK or ever heard about them, you’ll know that each hsk test comprises a set number of characters you need to know. So it’s 300 characters for HSK 1, 600 for level 2, 900 for 3, 1200 for HSK 4, 1500 for 5, and so on. But that’s just characters, as you know multiple characters when put together can form other words. Knowing 1800 characters means knowing 5500 words, and at that level, according to the Chinese Government, you should be able to hold discussions about professional topics, including issues and conflicts (that’s an HSK 6)
Also, a college student in china knows in average around 8 thousand characters, so unless Japanese is that much harder than Chinese, your claim makes no sense.
2000 characters is considered literate in Chinese, you are not fluent or even come close to a native, but you can hold meaningful conversations and exchange information
@@agme8045 Yeas and HKS goes to NINE. It doesn't stop at 6, as many think, it goes to 9!. Japanese has the JLPT, which goes from N5 to N1. you can pass the N1 and still not be able to read a book about, say, economics in Japanese. It doesn't matter that's what Japanese children learn at school. You must understand you ARE NOT a Japanese or Chinese child. Besides going to school they are BORN and live 24 hours a day in an environment where they see kanji/hanzi EVERYWHERE. To start with they ALREADY know how to speak Japanese/Chinese BEFORE going to school. They are already fluent in Japanese/Mandarin when they go to kindergarten. They have classes in Japanese/Mandarin, not in English! Can you understand the difference? Their first class is ENTIRELY in the target language! It's not in another language. To mimic this as a foreigners is a completely different beast! Don't be fooled.
@@agme8045 You are talking about kids that have their Chinese classes IN CHINESE, not in English. That watch TV, read manga, see signs on the streets all in characters since they are born in a hospital. That's how much you need!
@@agme8045 Just to make clear,. I didn't and I don't intend to take any NKS test. But I did pass on JLPT N1. JLPT N1 put you in the near native level alone? NOT EVEN CLOSE! A far cry.
@@agme8045 Another common mistake people learning kaanji/hanzi in Japanese/Chinese are led to believe is: "But that's is the order and the numbers of kanjis kids learn in school." You, as a total beginner is NOT the equivalent as a native kid. A kindergarten native kid is ALREADY fluent in Japanese/Chinese. they are 24 hours a day in an environment where those things are everywhere, on signs, manga, TV. When they have their first Japanese class IT'S IN JAPANESE, not in English. "Oh, those are the kanji the middle schoolers will learn." Yeah, and meanwhile they are taking classes on calculus in Japanese!
Get to your precious 2,000 mark and go talk to a kindergarten kid. See how much more that kid knows.
who in the uncle roger is this, anyways, watched all the way through, good video though
I kinda feel like youre copying uncle Roger style for views.
uncle roger