I mean he did destroy him over three rounds but the knock down scoring system should have led to a tie. I’m glad left meteorite won but I’m not sure it’s fair.
@@djamillakhdar-hamina3824 in the math it should have been a tie but under ONEs own rules, there are NO TIES. In the case of a tie, knockdowns are the tie breaker and kulabdam didnt get one. Not only that, but john never looked legit rocked. He was tired, getting out classed and punched around but never close to dropping. One needs the follow the criteria they laid out, even when thy dont like the result
To be fair the knockdown was all Lineker really had going for him, he didn’t do much else, I actually think it’s good that Left Meteorite won because it serves as a wake up call that a knockdown ≠ automatic win on the cards
Yeah if one doesn’t like their own rules then formally change it. Don’t just decided on the fly that their own scoring criteria doesn’t matter this time because they didn’t wanna see a lumpinee champ lose to a mma fighter that just throws punches
Im happy my guy won. But this situation makes it horrible the fact this a first decision where the guy who got a knockdown lost but for sure 2 and 3 is straight domination, and translator didnt translate that johns a midget fighter and why he has heavy hands😂
This fight was just a perfect example of why ONE needs to have tiebreaker overtime rounds like K1 or Rise. I don’t think Lineker should win for getting a knockdown and then proceeding to be dominated for 80% of the fight, but at the same time you can’t just pretend like the knockdown ever happened. Perfect case for a draw & OT round to decide the victor.
If they did this "tie breaker" it wouldn't change much. Anytime its a international fight and its a Thai vs "any of nation" it would be a tie breaker fighter as long as the Thai is still conscious.😂😂
@@jax9299 it is a robbery because weather you like it or agree with it, thats how one has always scored their fights for years...except this one fight. Weather they like the result or not, have some integrity and follow your own rules
@@1994JPDieselnoi vs Petmorakot also had this same thing happen, 2 knockdowns vs 3 across 2 rounds, apparently 2 had enough additional work behind it to win
@@1994JP Is it a robbery? A robbery is when the obvious winner doesn't get the decision. There's no way Lineker has a case for winning, at best a draw if the first round was a 10-8 because of one knockdown. He didn't even dominate that round if you saw the fight. Then lost rounds 2 and 3 because he was missing too often. I like his aggressive style but he has to improve his cardio for the rest of the fight. One or two more heavy kick to the body and he would have been done. John was severely hurt to the body by the end and just trying to survive by avoiding exchanges. That's why if there was even an overtime round, Kulabdam likely would have finished him. Did you predict Lineker miraculously healing and coming back to dominate the fight? The right guy got the nod at the end which is the most important thing even if you didn't believed the judges followed the correct scoring criteria. John is new to Muay Thai and it was evident here. He will learn from the experience.
@@paulohaulo3961 bro you dont understand ONE scoring then. It was a 28-28 draw. BUT ONE DOES NOT ALLOW DRAWS. When theres a draw the first tie breaker is number of knockdowns. Kulabdam had ZERO. Just off that john clearly won. Thats the definition of a robbery by your own definition if you follow ONE CHAMPION SCORING CRITERIA. Ppl keep sayin its not a robbery when they dont even know how one scores mt fights. Ive been watching every one event sonce friday fights started and 1 knockdown to zero knock downs always wins if the score is tied at the end. Reguardless about how anyone feels about it, thats one rules. Go to their website and read global muay thai scoring criteria.
I believe he won because of thai politics. Thai ministry of sport and all the muay thai purist gym owners would be pissed if Lineker beat a legit thai nak muay. They’re already mad about 4oz gloves.
Yeah weather or not you like how one scores their fights, doesnt change the fact that this is how its always been. And they should have the integrity to score it how they always have, even if they are embarrassed by the result. Im a big fan of one, muay thai and thailand but this has me extremely disappointed
Yeah that was a robbery. The amount of times I've seen a Thai fighter get one knockdown in the beginning, and then get their ass beat pretty much the rest of the fight and still win is like uncountable. Lineker got a legit knockdown, and it should have shown in the cards but clearly didn't.
@jax9299 well what i mean is i agree with that. Like yeah Kudlamdam put the work in and absolutely was the better fighter. But time and time again I've seen where a Thai fighter will get a knockdown in the beginning and then get similarly dominated for the rest of the fight and still win because of that knockdown. It happens all the time on Friday fights, just seems kinda bullshit that when it means a Thai would lose because of this that he in fact doesn't. I'm honestly pretty over fights being judged as a whole round, its stupid as fuck and fights absolutely should be scored round by round. Especially in such a fast and dynamic combat sport like Muay Thai 💯💯
@@dannyshroyer5770 Haha, You're very misinformed. Stop whining and complaining about how a Muay Thai fight is scored when you do Not understand the Basics. Let's start with the basics since you uneducated casuals give an automatic tell in the comment section by not understanding the basic beginner rules and how the point system is scored in a Muay Thai fight. The rules and point system in Muay Thai are scored vastly different than MMA, Kickboxing and Boxing. Punches to Leg Kicks are the least scored in Muay Thai since they do not cause major damage like the other 6 weapon's in Muay Thai or Thai Clinching. But Leg kicks score more than Punches. 1 power precision Leg Kick is worth 4 full power accurate punches that have clearly hit the target. The only time Punches to Leg Kicks are counted are when you drop your opponent as a knockdown, or you leave your opponent completely black and blue causing major damage to his entire body. That is the only time it is counted. Elbows, Body Kicks to High Kicks, to Knee's, dominating in the clinch score the most points, with Teeps scoring the highest points. Body Kicks to High Kicks to Knees and dominating in the Clinch are the most scored points in Muay Thai with Teeps are the Number #1 technique who scored the most out of all. One Championship Muay Thai Rules were changed. Scoring 1 Knockdown is Not going to Win you a Fight when a Thai or Farang (Foreigner in Thai) Nak Muay is being outclassed, schooled and dominated for throughout the entire straight. John only scored 1 Knockdown in round 1 and was losing the round until the Knockdown. After the Knockdown, All John could do was swing wild wind mill helicopter punches throughout the entire fight. That was it. Kulabdam Sor.Jor. Piek-U-Thai scored by multiple precision power Leg to Body Kicks, landed precision power knees and elbows, controlled the pace of the ring and the fight. Kulabdam won the fight. Understand basic beginner rules and how the point system is scored before you ever judge a Muay Thai Fight. Imagine if you uneducated casuals were to watch and "try" to "judge" a Silver to Golden Era Muay Thai Fight, hahaha you would be like the kids in the short bus trying to figure out calculus. You need to invest, research and gain knowledge to a subject you know nothing about before you write ignorant assumption comments.
@@jax9299 but your not a judge. It is a robbery because cuz there are NO TIES in one. When the score is tied, the first thing they go to for tie break is number of knockdowns. Kulabdam had ZERO. Just cuz you dont like the result doesnt mean you can just ignore the scoring criteria
Dawg, let's not pretend that Lineker got dominated for 2 rounds, sure the KD is 10-8, but a KD shouldn't make you win when you got your ass handed to yourself
@@jax9299 yeah kulabdam won but konchai, alif and other fighters had the same situations except they lost but whenever it happens to kulabdam he wins. kulabdam was surprised he won too
@@clump3737 This sounds like sour grapes. His surprise doesn't mean it was a controversial who fought better over the course of the fight. Lineker was aggressively entertaining at the start but did not have the cardio to stay active for more than half the fight. Then Kulabdam had Lineker backpedaling and shelling up all of the third round trying to avoid any more action. His body was seriously hurt from those kicks. No fighter would or should get a decision looking like that at the end.
I mean he did destroy him over three rounds but the knock down scoring system should have led to a tie. I’m glad left meteorite won but I’m not sure it’s fair.
@@djamillakhdar-hamina3824 in the math it should have been a tie but under ONEs own rules, there are NO TIES. In the case of a tie, knockdowns are the tie breaker and kulabdam didnt get one. Not only that, but john never looked legit rocked. He was tired, getting out classed and punched around but never close to dropping. One needs the follow the criteria they laid out, even when thy dont like the result
@ agreed
To be fair the knockdown was all Lineker really had going for him, he didn’t do much else, I actually think it’s good that Left Meteorite won because it serves as a wake up call that a knockdown ≠ automatic win on the cards
@ I agree, but the rules are the rules you know .
Yeah if one doesn’t like their own rules then formally change it. Don’t just decided on the fly that their own scoring criteria doesn’t matter this time because they didn’t wanna see a lumpinee champ lose to a mma fighter that just throws punches
Im happy my guy won. But this situation makes it horrible the fact this a first decision where the guy who got a knockdown lost but for sure 2 and 3 is straight domination, and translator didnt translate that johns a midget fighter and why he has heavy hands😂
This fight was just a perfect example of why ONE needs to have tiebreaker overtime rounds like K1 or Rise. I don’t think Lineker should win for getting a knockdown and then proceeding to be dominated for 80% of the fight, but at the same time you can’t just pretend like the knockdown ever happened. Perfect case for a draw & OT round to decide the victor.
If you think kuladam, dominated 80% of the fight you wanted him to win, because that is not the reality.
If they did this "tie breaker" it wouldn't change much. Anytime its a international fight and its a Thai vs "any of nation" it would be a tie breaker fighter as long as the Thai is still conscious.😂😂
Well, official score was coming out 8-10, 10-9, 10-9 result is 28-28 and all judges choose Kulabdam to be a winner that it's.
Yet another fight that serves as example to the politics
⭐😸 full score low blow
No robbery at all, lineker got dominated for 2 rounds, KDs should not score that much compared to domination
@@jax9299 it is a robbery because weather you like it or agree with it, thats how one has always scored their fights for years...except this one fight. Weather they like the result or not, have some integrity and follow your own rules
@@1994JPDieselnoi vs Petmorakot also had this same thing happen, 2 knockdowns vs 3 across 2 rounds, apparently 2 had enough additional work behind it to win
@@1994JP Is it a robbery? A robbery is when the obvious winner doesn't get the decision. There's no way Lineker has a case for winning, at best a draw if the first round was a 10-8 because of one knockdown. He didn't even dominate that round if you saw the fight. Then lost rounds 2 and 3 because he was missing too often. I like his aggressive style but he has to improve his cardio for the rest of the fight. One or two more heavy kick to the body and he would have been done. John was severely hurt to the body by the end and just trying to survive by avoiding exchanges. That's why if there was even an overtime round, Kulabdam likely would have finished him. Did you predict Lineker miraculously healing and coming back to dominate the fight? The right guy got the nod at the end which is the most important thing even if you didn't believed the judges followed the correct scoring criteria. John is new to Muay Thai and it was evident here. He will learn from the experience.
@@paulohaulo3961 bro you dont understand ONE scoring then. It was a 28-28 draw. BUT ONE DOES NOT ALLOW DRAWS. When theres a draw the first tie breaker is number of knockdowns. Kulabdam had ZERO. Just off that john clearly won. Thats the definition of a robbery by your own definition if you follow ONE CHAMPION SCORING CRITERIA. Ppl keep sayin its not a robbery when they dont even know how one scores mt fights. Ive been watching every one event sonce friday fights started and 1 knockdown to zero knock downs always wins if the score is tied at the end. Reguardless about how anyone feels about it, thats one rules. Go to their website and read global muay thai scoring criteria.
I believe he won because of thai politics. Thai ministry of sport and all the muay thai purist gym owners would be pissed if Lineker beat a legit thai nak muay. They’re already mad about 4oz gloves.
Linker looked sloppy and gassed getting kicked like a heavy bag
Yeah weather or not you like how one scores their fights, doesnt change the fact that this is how its always been. And they should have the integrity to score it how they always have, even if they are embarrassed by the result. Im a big fan of one, muay thai and thailand but this has me extremely disappointed
100% won because of Thai nationalism
It's a pretty sentimental comment, and I don't think everyone shares your sentiment. If it was RWS, I might think about it.
Yeah that was a robbery. The amount of times I've seen a Thai fighter get one knockdown in the beginning, and then get their ass beat pretty much the rest of the fight and still win is like uncountable. Lineker got a legit knockdown, and it should have shown in the cards but clearly didn't.
No robbery here man if I were a judge I'd give it to Kulabdam
@jax9299 well what i mean is i agree with that. Like yeah Kudlamdam put the work in and absolutely was the better fighter. But time and time again I've seen where a Thai fighter will get a knockdown in the beginning and then get similarly dominated for the rest of the fight and still win because of that knockdown. It happens all the time on Friday fights, just seems kinda bullshit that when it means a Thai would lose because of this that he in fact doesn't. I'm honestly pretty over fights being judged as a whole round, its stupid as fuck and fights absolutely should be scored round by round. Especially in such a fast and dynamic combat sport like Muay Thai 💯💯
@@dannyshroyer5770 Haha, You're very misinformed. Stop whining and complaining about how a Muay Thai fight is scored when you do Not understand the Basics. Let's start with the basics since you uneducated casuals give an automatic tell in the comment section by not understanding the basic beginner rules and how the point system is scored in a Muay Thai fight.
The rules and point system in Muay Thai are scored vastly different than MMA, Kickboxing and Boxing. Punches to Leg Kicks are the least scored in Muay Thai since they do not cause major damage like the other 6 weapon's in Muay Thai or Thai Clinching. But Leg kicks score more than Punches. 1 power precision Leg Kick is worth 4 full power accurate punches that have clearly hit the target.
The only time Punches to Leg Kicks are counted are when you drop your opponent as a knockdown, or you leave your opponent completely black and blue causing major damage to his entire body. That is the only time it is counted.
Elbows, Body Kicks to High Kicks, to Knee's, dominating in the clinch score the most points, with Teeps scoring the highest points. Body Kicks to High Kicks to Knees and dominating in the Clinch are the most scored points in Muay Thai with Teeps are the Number #1 technique who scored the most out of all.
One Championship Muay Thai Rules were changed. Scoring 1 Knockdown is Not going to Win you a Fight when a Thai or Farang (Foreigner in Thai) Nak Muay is being outclassed, schooled and dominated for throughout the entire straight.
John only scored 1 Knockdown in round 1 and was losing the round until the Knockdown. After the Knockdown, All John could do was swing wild wind mill helicopter punches throughout the entire fight. That was it.
Kulabdam Sor.Jor. Piek-U-Thai scored by multiple precision power Leg to Body Kicks, landed precision power knees and elbows, controlled the pace of the ring and the fight. Kulabdam won the fight.
Understand basic beginner rules and how the point system is scored before you ever judge a Muay Thai Fight. Imagine if you uneducated casuals were to watch and "try" to "judge" a Silver to Golden Era Muay Thai Fight, hahaha you would be like the kids in the short bus trying to figure out calculus.
You need to invest, research and gain knowledge to a subject you know nothing about before you write ignorant assumption comments.
@@jax9299 but your not a judge. It is a robbery because cuz there are NO TIES in one. When the score is tied, the first thing they go to for tie break is number of knockdowns. Kulabdam had ZERO. Just cuz you dont like the result doesnt mean you can just ignore the scoring criteria
@@dannyshroyer5770the fights are only scored as a whole in MMA, Muay Thai and kickboxing is round based
One back with the racism
Dawg, let's not pretend that Lineker got dominated for 2 rounds, sure the KD is 10-8, but a KD shouldn't make you win when you got your ass handed to yourself
@@jax9299 yeah kulabdam won but konchai, alif and other fighters had the same situations except they lost but whenever it happens to kulabdam he wins. kulabdam was surprised he won too
@@clump3737 This sounds like sour grapes. His surprise doesn't mean it was a controversial who fought better over the course of the fight. Lineker was aggressively entertaining at the start but did not have the cardio to stay active for more than half the fight. Then Kulabdam had Lineker backpedaling and shelling up all of the third round trying to avoid any more action. His body was seriously hurt from those kicks. No fighter would or should get a decision looking like that at the end.
@@paulohaulo3961 i said kulabdam won paul
@@clump3737 Then you cry racism and controversy for no reason, got it