Just cannot trust Wiggins. It’s not just his performance but an issue of unchageable character flaw, disconnect, no, gulf. Cut our losses now.
Even if the Dubs can't get Markkanen, they should still trade Wiggins for draft picks and hold on to them.
As for Wiggins now that the Warriors refused to have him play on the Canadian Olympic team. He's going to be pissed off he "can't" come back to the Warriors..
They should do the same to Curry, he was fading second half of season. Now he playing in Olympics he will be tired again.
@@tricksternguyen2153 not to be a downer but being realistic.... last Steph faded in the 2nd half NOW 1 yr older and playing on the Olympic team I say he might have the worst second-half he's ever had just too tired..
I don't expect much out of Wiggins playing for a team that clearly doesn't want him and forced him off the Canadian Men's Olympic Basketball team.
@@bayarea8016you’re being realistic which is an anathema to toxic warriors
@@erniebhernandez6452 another reason why he can't come back to the team Wiggins will make every excuse in the book not to play..
He is right. Why give up picks for Wiggins?! Everyone knows his value is down. Unless it's second round picks🤷🏾 I think we should just trade for solid players. That is how we won the championship in 2022. We had a solid bench. Danny A. Wants way to much
to get a solid player you need to give up pieces
that would likely be kuminga
and then there is the salary of wiggins, you literally could not pay another salary without trading wiggins
It would be second round picks. You can’t get a first in a trade for Wiggins anyway.
@@jazzytreezAinge is not out of his mind. He should want Kuminga involved in that trade.
@@jazzytreezit’s best YOU forget that and accept it 10th Seed and dropping FAAAAAST
The problem is they need Wiggins defense. He is the best wing defender on this team (when he is engaged). Kuminga cant guard a lamppost.
I would keep Wigs if you can’t trade or move him and use him off the bench and allow him to work with Pods and Trace to keep the 2nd team going.
Wiggins stock is so low that I think, it would be better to keep him on this team and bring a secondary scorer on this team ... Even if we get great defense and low scoring, I'm ok with Wiggins !
His rebounding has gone down. He just doesn't show he wants to play. Warriors really want to move him. That's why they restricted him from playing in the Olympics. He just needs a change of scenery.
@@phillipparedes6444 I can bet, he didn't practice and condition himself before the start of the previous season .... If he comes conditioned and prepared, he can get off to a good start !! He is a streaky player, if personal issues don't bother him this season, he'll be in a good position by the all star break .. if his stock rises we can trade him mid season as well ... But now is not the time to trade him !!
Makes no sense. His stock is down, meaning he's playing bad so let's keep him. And then trade him when he's actually playing better. I say dump him now and give more time to youngsters.
@@gabrielvazquez81 so, even if we get into playoffs, do you think Kuminga or Moody can rise to the level to which Wiggins rose ?? Absolutely no, they're just 21 years old and lack experience ...they should get time though and Wiggins playing time should also be limited to 25-30 minutes till he shows signs of good performance, if not then trade him mid season 😂
Wiggins has to go no matter what. As a former player myself id hate to be on his team. Id take a untalented player who gives his all every game before i take a talented flaker.
The fact Wiggins got blocked to play for Canada says it all.
I’m so disappointed in Wiggins. In winning a championship and having an all star year, he has regressed a little. He needs to start using his athleticism and stop depending so much on the 3. But it’s hard to start him and Kuminga. One has to come off the bench.
Wait for trade deadline to see who needs a wing defender to move Wiggins. The need would be greater then. We should trade Payton 2 or Wiggins for Jarrett Allen. It will fix our center problems
Great take on Wiggins.Charlie nicely done!
How is this a new report? We heard this a couple weeks ago.
League knows they don't want him. Why would they give up picks??? Why haven't they trade for JGrant? He's a 20+ scorer, a wing with a size and can defend. We could prob save a lot of the picks too. That's a lot of checks, maybe he's plan b?
Thank you Kaylen, for stating Steph’s numbers, while being double and triple teamed, with no number 2 guy to help out. Steph is still an elite player.🔥
The Thunder has tons of draft picks. Maybe they need a veteran in Wiggins.
which type of teams needs wiggin? ie champ contenders who's in need of a wing who can score and play D maybe? if true then which team ? and i don't think they'd give up 1st rnd picks for wiggins. you're lucky if you can get 2nd rnd pick
@mikenguyen9683 maybe the Thunder since they are all young. Plus they do have draft capital.
I agree with trading him at the deadline if the deal isn't just what the Warriors need. Don't compromise. He heats up as the season goes on so his trade value will increase. He's still a solid player.
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Is exactly what I would do develop the young players this year? See what you have and then make strong moves next year.
GSW has a winner in Wiggins if they can get him back to 2022 form. There’s a silent reason why they haven’t touched Wiggins in all these trades. Wiggins is still a young man with championship pedigree.
Yes. Trade Wiggins
I think the warriors should absolutely hit up Cleveland, I think they would absolutely love to have him especially with Garland expected to leave. I think they can run Mitchell Strus Wigs Wade Mobley. Notice I leave out Allen , I expect the warriors to try to get him out of the deal
I wouldn’t give my grandma for Wiggins, so why would anyone give a first round pick.. If Utah thought he was worth a pick they would trade for him and then trade him for picks.. This all seems desperate.. Mike D needs to look in another direction and not get fleeced by Danny A!! Look somewhere else!!
Who can bet that Marques Bolden can't play as well as markkanen? With a quick crash course/Warriors Style?
Nets! Drop Wiggins off in Brooklyn, who can shuffle picks and ouchie Ben Simmons expiring to Utah. The Dubs get Markkanen.
Yes because Danny was just holding out for Ben’s expiring contract.
Flip the shoe other way around
Nets should be doing everything they can to land a top 3 pick next year...they didn't trade Bridges and the Suns picks (to recoup their own) so they latch onto an aging vet.
Let Simmons expire try to lose as many games as possible 🙏 you land Flagg.
I don't see the Nets doing anything beyond that
stupid. wiggin contraxt worst than simmons, simmon hace only 1 yrs left for 40m, woggons 3y left for 84m. nets nor jazz willmake the trade.. dont kid yourself warruiors fans to offload wiggins warriors need to give 1ST ROUNDER NOT GETTING ONE.
Well, I can promise one thing: you will be able to bank on steph ALOT longer if he gets a legit #2 option rather than having the weight of the whole team on his shoulders as its been.
Lol no one is trading picks for Wiggins.
Wigs is solid two ways. Keep him unless you get some big player.
the problem is Charlie all you did was watch highlights. Highlights make everyone look good thats why its highlights. Kuminga, Moody and Brandon you cant move. Wiggins has to go
Very fair point, but 7-foot sharpshooters with quick releases don’t come around often. I’m really high on Kuminga and think Dubs are too. He ain’t going anywhere
Would be nice to keep him, or if we do lose him, chances we could get JC out of it ❤
Andrew is the reason why they actually won that championship against the Celtics. He guarded Luka Dončić, he guarded Jokic. He eliminated the current not so good and still have proven anything to me too. The Boston Celtics.
Who the Golden State Warriors need to find a trading partner for is the person who destroyed the dynasty himself: Draymond Green. The Warriors don’t do that, then do believe there is a conspiracy with the clutch sports ally to prevent the Golden State Warriors from getting more rain in LeBron James.
The Warriors win at a 60% rate with DG. The Curry-Green PnR is virtually unguardable when DG is aggressive looking for his shot. We win 0 rings without DG, despite what the media would have us believe.
10:10 I would question if Andrew Wiggins wants to go back to the team that originally drafted him. I wouldn’t. And I don’t think they would want him back.
Golden State must be trying to sell some Doobie or some PCP here because you’re gonna lose all sorts of defensive ability trading and trying to get the guy who is the bright shiny object from Utah.
And guess what? No one in sports media in the Bay Area talks about: will Draymond Green kill the chemistry once again with all these new pieces in the locker room and have the Warriors considered that Draymond may not get along with any of them.
I miss two-way Wiggs as well but he ain’t coming back.
We have to move on from this version of Minnesota Wiggs. We need players who want to play here.
The warriors defense is lottery level bad without draymond . Wiggins looks below average any time dray is missing time and not that free safety in the back end too
Marques Bolden without given up too much talent. 😊
Orlando Magic? Not Paolo Banchero, who is off the table. Wendell Carter, Jr. or another Big.
Where is Cyrus?
Ugh! Everyone is so willing to overreact. Years ago I saw a baseball convo that said statistically, when a guy has a career year, good or bad, the next year their production will almost certainly be in between that production and their career average. So, Wiggins will bounce back to a good player, but not quite as good as before, which is fine. According to Statmuse GSW were #8 offensively, and top 8 in all the relevant scoring categories, but 18th defensively and middling in all relevant defensive categories. So, WE DON'T NEED OFFENSE. And, that's why the FO signed 2 tremendous defensive players in Melton and Anderson, along with 2 ways on great college defenders Beekman and Post. The narrative that GSW can't score because we let Klay go, or just in general is BS! Top 8 offensively in 2023-2024! We don't need Lauri, and we shouldn't make huge changes unless we aren't giving up that much to make them happen. If there is a move to make that makes us clearly better, it would be trading Moody for a Walker Kessler type big to bolster the center spot defensively (especially vs teams with a tall or physical center), the only spot that really needs an addition.
Wiggins always, at the least, tries harder in the playoffs. Zach Levine has only played worse in the clutch. Wiggins could still help us.
I like the trade to get Cam Johnson
Yes would 100% trade Wiggins to then be able to get Lauri Markkanen
Just keep Wiggins unless u are getting first round picks for him. Markkenan isn’t moving the warriors past the top 6 of the west coast. We won’t be better than Denver, Dallas, Minnesota, OKC, pelicans, with Markkenan we will be even with Sac, lakers, suns and clippers if Leonard is healthy
Chi is trying to give Levine up and GIVE first rounds picks to get rid of him. The Warriors would be crazy to trade Wiggs for nothing. He is a great 3/D guy. I say just keep Wiggs and get he a good psychologist.
Im def on the LM train, it just feels like I repeatedly get my hopes up then dashed. Yes to trading Wiggins to get Lauri. I would trade JK for Lauri without a question to be honest. He is being protected like he is 100% a future hof player, jk already thinks he is a $200 million player . Crazy. I like him but he isnt Lauri right now.
That being said, if we do not get LM or another such caliber player for Wigs then I would also keep him and roll the dice. At least until the trade deadline. If he is still looking depressed and playing sht by then, then possibly get rid of him for less.
I would much rather have Wiggins over Lavine. I'd love Markkanen, but we can't over pay; we cannot give our future for the next five+ years for Markkanen. I would trade JK for him, because we cannot pay both JK and Markkanen.
You don’t know if kuminga or anyone will be a superstar u know steph is generational and once in a lifetime if u need to trade kuminga moody picks. Future kids to get steph a couple more chips do that shit or regret forever not capitalizing
tel me whowant wiggins and his cotract
Definitely trade Wiggins to get pics for Lauri Markkanen
Andrew is not a four. Steve holds players and front office hostage. Steve is afailed Gm.
3 Team Trade: Wiggins to Bulls for Lavine and a 1st rd pick. Send that pick, 3 Warriors 1st round picks, Moody and Lavine to Jazz for Markannen. That Bulls pick is gonna be valuable because they are bad.
Ben Simmons will always be a myteam GOD, my starting PG if the gambling gods are kind. It’s a contract year for Ben, mvp Simmons about to be unleashed.😊
God no not simmons a lost cause he bailed on his team n no kuminga or moody that's crazy give the picks wiggs looney g p namaste
Did he say top 15th? Cut him out 😂
Better help is a scam 13:10
No Ben Simmons
Wiggins lacks the will to succeed. Jimmy Butler has stated twice to the press that Wiggins has no dog in him. Get rid of Wiggins and put him in the rear view mirror,
This guy Waiter is completely uninformed on Wiggins 22/23 season, even after doing his research. He did not have a awesome season. Waiter obviously didn't do Any meaningful research, only looking at Wiggins final season stats most likely. That's not research. The second half of that season for Wiggins was a Ben Simmons level disaster and he hasn''t recovered since.
Just keep him at this point. He has zero trade value. Were likely going to have to give Kuminga.
These 2 have a little too much chemistry. Stand back Charlie. Kylen is ours!
lol, NBA is all about wings. Ws will have no one to defend big guards / wings.
I do believe the pairing of Wiggins and JK would work. Watch out
How’d that work last season? Wiggs just doesn’t seem motivated to play anymore. I’d give him up in a heartbeat as a means of getting Lauri.
@@DeliverYouTruth people gotta stop giving Wiggins passes. The season before his down performance was supposedly because he was in his fee fees about Poole getting traded. Stop it. From his actions, That dude is no longer interested in hoop
@@DeliverYouTruthhe had 7 years of meh, then two good seasons, followed by two consecutive seasons of half assedness bruh. Did you forget that he disappeared on and off the court for most of '22-'23? And then had far and away his worst season in '23-24. It would appear that his two good seasons are the fluke
@@DeliverYouTruth on a personal level I empathize. But as a basketball fan, it's his on court performance I care about and in the two seasons since having a career year he's played worse than he ever had. He's been unreliable and mostly unremarkable on the court and has been a net negative for the team. Bro is out there getting some light cardio in
@@DeliverYouTruth and we are back to making excuses for him. Thank you for making my point.
What happenned to that guy?
Wiggins has no value at all and a bad long-term contract. Warriors have been aggressively shopping him around for two months with no takers.
Steph isn’t in his prime. He can’t guard a parked trash can and his offense isn’t elite anymore
@@WorldBeater123 that led them to the 10th seed and a first round play-in exit. Still very good , but not prime steph anymore
@@ninerempire3398 he isn’t the reason they lost. Warriors have no #2 scorer, and no height or interior defense. That’s their biggest problems.
@@WorldBeater123 he adds to the problems by not being able to guard anybody on the court. He was definitely apart of the reason why they lost that game
@@ninerempire3398 Curry has never been a good defensive player. And he was actually worse during the first 2 titles because he was too slender. His defense improved as he got older and put on more muscle. He is a better defender now than he was in 2017. The problem is last year Kerr played 3 small guard lineups with Chris Paul, Curry and POD on the court, all of whom are not good defensively. Also Klay was worse defensively. All of those defensive factors were the issue.
Dunlevey addressed some of our defensive woes in the offseason by acquiring Melton and Anderson, but he needs to play Moody more as well and abandon these tiny lineups that are poor on ball defenders
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Trade Wiggins for Zach Levin
Trade him already.
Trade Wiggins and Looney
Put Kaminga in the deal...only way we compete
To compete we need Lauri AND JK... People need to realize this. Just Lauri is not moving the needle enough. Let MD cook.
100% agree. I would make that trade - JK + GP + pick for LM. It would also open up enough money to sign a vet big backup then cross our fingers. LM is the perfect fit for the dubs, JK has all the potential in the world but is not even close to being the second option on a contending team.
Wiggins should not start until he shows he wants to play. When he starts to play better ship him outta there.