“Giannis’ style of play isn’t conducive to winning basketball” In the past 3 seasons combined, the Bucks have the most regular season AND postseason wins in the league. “Giannis can’t close, he’s not clutch” Before the hyper extended knee, Giannis was leading the Bucks in clutch time points scored. He finished the playoffs with the best clutch time fg%, and most 4th quarter points scored of all players. His clutch defense down the stretch of almost every finals game proved pivotal and game swinging. “Giannis is a perennial playoff underperformer” Giannis’ playoff struggles have been greatly exaggerated and are not unlike the postseason growing pains players like MJ and Bron endured on their path to greatness. Giannis’ postseason career averages totally eclipse his career regular season averages, rising drastically in every single category. In the 2019 playoffs, Giannis became one of three players in NBA history to lead their respective team in all 5 major statistical categories. He did this while not even averaging the most minutes on his team, a feat no one else has ever accomplished. In the 2021 finals, he had the most efficient finals outing in history despite it being his first time on the ultimate stage. His 50 point series clincher is also the greatest closeout game in finals history. “the Nets would’ve handled Milwaukee easy if Kyrie didn’t go down” The Bucks won game 3 with a fully healthy Kyrie, and were winning when he went down during game 4. Also, the Bucks were practically undefeated at home in the entire playoffs ( 10w 1L ), and had swept the Nets at Fiserv during the regular season. Finally, as the Suns Finals series displayed, a 2-0 deficit was by no means insurmountable for this Bucks squad, especially when their opponent had homecourt advantage (as the Nets did against them in the ECSF). In entirety, it is entirely probable that the Bucks could have forced a game 7 in Brooklyn even with a healthy Kyrie available for every game. “the Bucks benefitted from injuries more than anyone else in the 2021 playoffs” While en route to sweeping Miami (the defending Eastern Conference champions) the Bucks lost Donte Divicenzo, a starter whose two way play is an integral piece to the Bucks system. Also, following his hyperextension scare, Giannis was listed as doubtful just minutes leading up to game 1 of the finals. Despite initially being on a minutes restriction (he averaged less minutes in the finals than Harden did for his three games in the ECSF) Giannis returned and dominated a relatively healthy Phoenix team, the real beneficiaries of injury luck being on their side.
Why shouldn’t the narrative change? He just had the greatest finals performance ever. I don’t like people like you, but all of you haters will be proven once again in upcoming seasons wrong. Giannis will be a top 10 player ever.
I said the ring was very deserved. It’s just that I don’t think these circumstances will happen every year in his favor. Hence why I think he should still improve shooting/free throws.
@@rundacourt773 ah yes the circimstances as if he improves his shooting/freethrows he is gonna get past superteams like the nets with kmidd and jrue fuck out of here every point you hit was literally stupid and with the intent to discredit him this has to be one of the dumbest videos i have seen in a while unless kmidd scores about 25 bare minimun every night and jrue does the same giannis needs to be droping 50-60 to win another title how does that sound about circumstances
@@ronaldihnio4ever I am not discrediting Giannis. i specifically said that i dont like the concept of rings not counting. I just wanna see him improve those areas. GOAT Potential IMO
@@rundacourt773 you literally mentioned inuries and circimstances about 10 times in this video and on top of that you literally implied that his narrative should not change cause he has not improved in his weaknesses and basically got lucky if thats not trying to discredit someone i dont know what is
Did ever someone said the same for Saq? "He is good but he must become better to get a championship". NO! He was lucky enough to be in Orlando with Hardaway in order to go to the finals. He was lucky enough to go to Lakers with a way to young Kobe. I don't understand this attitude with Giannis. Injuries is part of the game. The medical staff is also part of the team. If Chris Paul had won the championship would be all fine?
"If "ifs" and "buts"... Such a silly argument. I can find an "if" for every single championship. People be really trying to discredit Giannis ring, masking it with the old "I give him all his props" bullshit. Too many hot takes, too many guys listening to casuals like Ryan Hollins
Ryan Hollins 🤮 Nah but Giannis is a champion deservingly I just don’t know if I can see them doing it again bc of the circumstances. Now if he improves his free throw and middy 😳😳😳
@@rundacourt773 @Rundacourt How does 17/19 sound to you? Dude put up the greatest closeout game in the 75 year history of the league. What do the "circumstances" have to do with anything... Your title is about Giannis and you are somehow changing it to how the Bucks will do next season... As if Giannis has Harden and Kyrie, or AD and Russ. You specifically said in your video that Bucks ain't the team to beat. No shit... Teams change in the off-season. Were the Cavs the favorites after their ring??...Hell nah. Warriors went and got Kd and added him to a 73 win team. Were the Raptors the favorites in 2020?... I can obviously go on and on. If you want to talk about Giannis, then talk about Giannis, not about the Bucks or KD's toe. Giannis gave you one of the all time clutchest performances (and plays) in the whole Finals series, with a hyperextended knee (addressing another point in your video...you said stars where falling like flies, as if the 2xMVP, DPOY, MIP, FMVP and champion was aight). It's time people gave him the respect he deserves, he is 26 and more accomplished at that age than anyone ever, including your favorite player🙂... Appreciate greatness...
@@stathisloizos8737 That's the thing i am appreciating greatness! I am just saying i think for the bucks to be able to run another chip EXPECTING to face a healthy Nets team ( You cant just hope theyre hurt) they need to improve. I think we can both agree the Bucks wouldve lost to a healhty team. Nonetheless this is a very deserved ring. But we know 17/19 wasnt a consistent thing he was doing. (65% ft in the finals) I just think for the bucks to be a powerhouse he needs to up his free throw and mid range game. Respectfully
@@rundacourt773 I am not gonna argue the same point further ... we obviously don't understand each other. Just one more thing, do you seriously think that if Giannis got a Bron J from mid range and a 75-80% free throw, that somehow a fully stacked Nets team is gonna suddenly be the underdog in the series? Giannis could have a Steph 3, a KD middy and 90% free throw and the Bucks are still no match talentwise (that doesn't mean I don't think the Bucks can win, they can...and they already did). Bottom line is, to be the best in the league you don't have to check every box. Historically players didn't. He does every other single thing at an all time A- to A+ level. You seem to think that the wall works... I saw with my own two eyes how well it worked this year, especially against the Heat. Just a quick sweep while Giannis was doing keepie uppies
Injuries are affecting every championship. Injuries are part of the game either from bad luck or bad conditioning, it's not the fault of the Bucks if the nets get injured.
50/14/5 those are 2k numbers,why do we live in a world of style points?? Why do we trust a team that played 8 games total together???what have they won collectively???? All thisbif stuff is corny
Giannis Played Great! But let's not pretend that the Nets were beating the bucks relatively easily before Kyrie got hurt. This ring is deserved absolutely. My argument is that in order for the bucks to beat a healthy nets team (for example) Giannis and the Bucks still need to improve.
@@rundacourt773 You mean a 2-1 series with the Bucks being up in game 4 before Ky got injured is "beating the Bucks relatively easily"?? What?... I must've forgotten when they changed the rules to a best of 3...
@@stathisloizos8737 no bro literally everybody ignores game 3 and ignores that Milwaukee was up when Kyrie got hurt, context is a foreign term to NBA fans
Saying '' if'' the toe was an inch back is so stupid when it comes to basketball. It's like hitting a bazer beater and then ball not going in and then you say 'if the ball was an inch left we would have won' just dumb. Also what do you think would have happened if dbook or cp3 got injured when the series were 2-0. The bucks beat everyone to their path because they were better and they are the worthy champions I don't want to hear any more unlogical excuses.
This is stupid. Injuries are part of the game. And giannis not being able to carry his team? Have you watched any of his games? All he does is carry his team. He's been carrying them for years, I'm surprised he's not shorter with all all weight on his back. And as for as his free throws, if the finals revealed anything, it's that he does have does have free throws jusy need to hit em more consistently. He hit 17 out of 19. That's better than most players. All these arguments are dead. He won it because he played his heart out and other teams didn't win it because they couldn't. Simple as that
Yes, because all other stars are proficient in every aspect. They defend, they rebound, they shoot 3s, they pass, they shoot mid-range, they dunk, they block...if I have forgotten anything, please add. So Giannis must do all even though with his mega limits he gets 40 and 50 pieces. Let me remind you that basketball is a TEAM sport and players have R-O-L-E-S!!! And as for the f@#$ing ifs..if they were playing hockey, the bucks might have lost the championship. In other words, if my grandma had wheels she would have been a skateboard. Giannis does not need to develop anything. He just needs to mature. And that will come with age.
@@rundacourt773 You know what's problematic with your argument? That when you are using a big if. it is just a matter of belief and not facts. Do you want facts? Bucks lost their starting PG De Vicenzo one crucial player for their rotation... Giannis got injured with the Hawks and came back due to his work ethic in the gym... Giannis scored points in OT with the Nets when KD dissapeared.... Giannis plays in a team that he has two other significant players and all stars but not as big as Harden and Irving that they are potential hall of famers... And lets go to the Nets... It is Nets problem that they built a team with 3 major stars and they lacked the salary for good rotation players... It is Nets problem that among these 3 Harden has a great possibility to get injured because his body is not athletic and he is not working to be more tough and avoid injuries.... It is Nets problem that they need 3 potential future hall of famers to beat 1 guy and two all stars and when they are not all together just whine about it... You say that if the Nets are all together they can beat the bucks.. ok maybe yes and maybe not... The thing is that i dont believe that we gonna see this exactly because they are soft and get injured... Maybe in a parallel universe where injuries dont exists and Giannis dot train to much to come back after a week from an injury that would cause thw end of the year for the most of them. In a parallel universe where the Nets can find somebody to stop giannis in the paint, and in a parallel universe where my grand mother has wheels... Imao
@@marinusvanderlubbe4031 Mt argument is not that the Bucks didnt deserve to win. I said multiple times that it is deserved. Im just saying things won't fall into place like they did this year. In order to beat a healthy Nets team (For example) i personally believe Giannis needs to get a jumper and more consistent from the line. Am i wrong about that?
@@rundacourt773 why giannis has to have a jumper if he can score 40 or 50 in the paint and the only way to deal with him is to double or triple team him... When they do he always finds the open man...he had 50 pts in the final.... 50 of 105... You suggest that he can do better with a 3pt...? Giannis wont be better at 3pts and durant wont be so dominant in the paint... Lets move on...
@@rundacourt773 And for me and for my stupid way of seeing things its not 3pts that make Giannis unstoppable but the free throws.... Cause if Giannis have 85% and not 50% that means maybe 10 pts more... 10 pts and foul problems for the opponents... If giannis starts to be something like porzingis lets say then he will lost the one thing that makes hime unstoppable... The pts in the paint, the free throws, the foul problems to the other teams bigs and the assist to the open men in the 3pt line... That is that you cant understand...
Could have just said that you would like to see improvements in some part of Giannis's game as the Lakers,heat got better and the competition would be tougher next season. The fact that you said that the Nets would have beat the bucks in 5 is stupid. Just like the Brooklyn series, the bucks fell 0-2 to the suns,guess what????They came back. So its like you're discrediting the bucks win.
Kyrie harden and KD is already unrealistic. If nets won would harden be considered better because his team won? This whole narrative that you need to win doesn’t make any sense. One player isn’t going to win a series regardless of who you are. Watch Giannis’ jumper he was using in the finals it’s looking good. If you’re still criticizing after this man won a championship what are we even doing here. Total joke.
You keep trying to change the narrative, bro cant control the outcomes of players injuries just give the man his fucking flowers, THIS SAME ARGUMENT COULD BE USED AGAINST THE SUNS. Suns wouldntve gotten out the first round if lakers were healthy and wouldntve gotten past the clippers if they werent healthy but they did. Bro i get they beat your Miami Heat but stop the hate
“Giannis’ style of play isn’t conducive to winning basketball”
In the past 3 seasons combined, the Bucks have the most regular season AND postseason wins in the league.
“Giannis can’t close, he’s not clutch”
Before the hyper extended knee, Giannis was leading the Bucks in clutch time points scored. He finished the playoffs with the best clutch time fg%, and most 4th quarter points scored of all players. His clutch defense down the stretch of almost every finals game proved pivotal and game swinging.
“Giannis is a perennial playoff underperformer”
Giannis’ playoff struggles have been greatly exaggerated and are not unlike the postseason growing pains players like MJ and Bron endured on their path to greatness. Giannis’ postseason career averages totally eclipse his career regular season averages, rising drastically in every single category. In the 2019 playoffs, Giannis became one of three players in NBA history to lead their respective team in all 5 major statistical categories. He did this while not even averaging the most minutes on his team, a feat no one else has ever accomplished. In the 2021 finals, he had the most efficient finals outing in history despite it being his first time on the ultimate stage. His 50 point series clincher is also the greatest closeout game in finals history.
“the Nets would’ve handled Milwaukee easy if Kyrie didn’t go down”
The Bucks won game 3 with a fully healthy Kyrie, and were winning when he went down during game 4. Also, the Bucks were practically undefeated at home in the entire playoffs ( 10w 1L ), and had swept the Nets at Fiserv during the regular season. Finally, as the Suns Finals series displayed, a 2-0 deficit was by no means insurmountable for this Bucks squad, especially when their opponent had homecourt advantage (as the Nets did against them in the ECSF). In entirety, it is entirely probable that the Bucks could have forced a game 7 in Brooklyn even with a healthy Kyrie available for every game.
“the Bucks benefitted from injuries more than anyone else in the 2021 playoffs”
While en route to sweeping Miami (the defending Eastern Conference champions) the Bucks lost Donte Divicenzo, a starter whose two way play is an integral piece to the Bucks system. Also, following his hyperextension scare, Giannis was listed as doubtful just minutes leading up to game 1 of the finals. Despite initially being on a minutes restriction (he averaged less minutes in the finals than Harden did for his three games in the ECSF) Giannis returned and dominated a relatively healthy Phoenix team, the real beneficiaries of injury luck being on their side.
Why shouldn’t the narrative change? He just had the greatest finals performance ever. I don’t like people like you, but all of you haters will be proven once again in upcoming seasons wrong. Giannis will be a top 10 player ever.
I said the ring was very deserved. It’s just that I don’t think these circumstances will happen every year in his favor. Hence why I think he should still improve shooting/free throws.
@@rundacourt773 ah yes the circimstances as if he improves his shooting/freethrows he is gonna get past superteams like the nets with kmidd and jrue fuck out of here every point you hit was literally stupid and with the intent to discredit him this has to be one of the dumbest videos i have seen in a while unless kmidd scores about 25 bare minimun every night and jrue does the same giannis needs to be droping 50-60 to win another title how does that sound about circumstances
@@ronaldihnio4ever I am not discrediting Giannis. i specifically said that i dont like the concept of rings not counting. I just wanna see him improve those areas. GOAT Potential IMO
@@rundacourt773 you literally mentioned inuries and circimstances about 10 times in this video and on top of that you literally implied that his narrative should not change cause he has not improved in his weaknesses and basically got lucky if thats not trying to discredit someone i dont know what is
Did ever someone said the same for Saq? "He is good but he must become better to get a championship". NO! He was lucky enough to be in Orlando with Hardaway in order to go to the finals. He was lucky enough to go to Lakers with a way to young Kobe. I don't understand this attitude with Giannis. Injuries is part of the game. The medical staff is also part of the team. If Chris Paul had won the championship would be all fine?
"If "ifs" and "buts"... Such a silly argument. I can find an "if" for every single championship. People be really trying to discredit Giannis ring, masking it with the old "I give him all his props" bullshit. Too many hot takes, too many guys listening to casuals like Ryan Hollins
Ryan Hollins 🤮 Nah but Giannis is a champion deservingly I just don’t know if I can see them doing it again bc of the circumstances. Now if he improves his free throw and middy 😳😳😳
@@rundacourt773 @Rundacourt How does 17/19 sound to you? Dude put up the greatest closeout game in the 75 year history of the league. What do the "circumstances" have to do with anything... Your title is about Giannis and you are somehow changing it to how the Bucks will do next season... As if Giannis has Harden and Kyrie, or AD and Russ. You specifically said in your video that Bucks ain't the team to beat. No shit... Teams change in the off-season. Were the Cavs the favorites after their ring??...Hell nah. Warriors went and got Kd and added him to a 73 win team. Were the Raptors the favorites in 2020?... I can obviously go on and on. If you want to talk about Giannis, then talk about Giannis, not about the Bucks or KD's toe. Giannis gave you one of the all time clutchest performances (and plays) in the whole Finals series, with a hyperextended knee (addressing another point in your video...you said stars where falling like flies, as if the 2xMVP, DPOY, MIP, FMVP and champion was aight). It's time people gave him the respect he deserves, he is 26 and more accomplished at that age than anyone ever, including your favorite player🙂... Appreciate greatness...
@@stathisloizos8737 That's the thing i am appreciating greatness! I am just saying i think for the bucks to be able to run another chip EXPECTING to face a healthy Nets team ( You cant just hope theyre hurt) they need to improve. I think we can both agree the Bucks wouldve lost to a healhty team. Nonetheless this is a very deserved ring. But we know 17/19 wasnt a consistent thing he was doing. (65% ft in the finals) I just think for the bucks to be a powerhouse he needs to up his free throw and mid range game. Respectfully
@@rundacourt773 I am not gonna argue the same point further ... we obviously don't understand each other. Just one more thing, do you seriously think that if Giannis got a Bron J from mid range and a 75-80% free throw, that somehow a fully stacked Nets team is gonna suddenly be the underdog in the series? Giannis could have a Steph 3, a KD middy and 90% free throw and the Bucks are still no match talentwise (that doesn't mean I don't think the Bucks can win, they can...and they already did). Bottom line is, to be the best in the league you don't have to check every box. Historically players didn't. He does every other single thing at an all time A- to A+ level. You seem to think that the wall works... I saw with my own two eyes how well it worked this year, especially against the Heat. Just a quick sweep while Giannis was doing keepie uppies
Injuries are affecting every championship. Injuries are part of the game either from bad luck or bad conditioning, it's not the fault of the Bucks if the nets get injured.
Absolutely agree with that.
How can I delete someone else's video?
Maybe ask nicely
@@rundacourt773 Could you please delete this video.
@@castanzofranzman2013 Thank You. But no.
@@rundacourt773 lmao no problem
50/14/5 those are 2k numbers,why do we live in a world of style points?? Why do we trust a team that played 8 games total together???what have they won collectively???? All thisbif stuff is corny
Giannis Played Great! But let's not pretend that the Nets were beating the bucks relatively easily before Kyrie got hurt. This ring is deserved absolutely. My argument is that in order for the bucks to beat a healthy nets team (for example) Giannis and the Bucks still need to improve.
@@rundacourt773 You mean a 2-1 series with the Bucks being up in game 4 before Ky got injured is "beating the Bucks relatively easily"?? What?... I must've forgotten when they changed the rules to a best of 3...
@@stathisloizos8737 no bro literally everybody ignores game 3 and ignores that Milwaukee was up when Kyrie got hurt, context is a foreign term to NBA fans
ifs and buts are on the other side of the fence as well. its lame to ignore that stuff.
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Saying '' if'' the toe was an inch back is so stupid when it comes to basketball. It's like hitting a bazer beater and then ball not going in and then you say 'if the ball was an inch left we would have won' just dumb. Also what do you think would have happened if dbook or cp3 got injured when the series were 2-0. The bucks beat everyone to their path because they were better and they are the worthy champions I don't want to hear any more unlogical excuses.
They are worthy champions! That's not that argument i was making
Bulls, Miami, Atlanta, Nets make "2022 East" harder than the Western Conference
This is stupid. Injuries are part of the game. And giannis not being able to carry his team? Have you watched any of his games? All he does is carry his team. He's been carrying them for years, I'm surprised he's not shorter with all all weight on his back. And as for as his free throws, if the finals revealed anything, it's that he does have does have free throws jusy need to hit em more consistently. He hit 17 out of 19. That's better than most players. All these arguments are dead. He won it because he played his heart out and other teams didn't win it because they couldn't. Simple as that
Yes, because all other stars are proficient in every aspect. They defend, they rebound, they shoot 3s, they pass, they shoot mid-range, they dunk, they block...if I have forgotten anything, please add. So Giannis must do all even though with his mega limits he gets 40 and 50 pieces. Let me remind you that basketball is a TEAM sport and players have R-O-L-E-S!!! And as for the f@#$ing ifs..if they were playing hockey, the bucks might have lost the championship. In other words, if my grandma had wheels she would have been a skateboard. Giannis does not need to develop anything. He just needs to mature. And that will come with age.
I agree with you! Its the same thing im telling my relatives that if my grand mother had wheels she would be an automobile..
lmaooooooo
@@rundacourt773 You know what's problematic with your argument? That when you are using a big if. it is just a matter of belief and not facts. Do you want facts? Bucks lost their starting PG De Vicenzo one crucial player for their rotation... Giannis got injured with the Hawks and came back due to his work ethic in the gym... Giannis scored points in OT with the Nets when KD dissapeared.... Giannis plays in a team that he has two other significant players and all stars but not as big as Harden and Irving that they are potential hall of famers... And lets go to the Nets... It is Nets problem that they built a team with 3 major stars and they lacked the salary for good rotation players... It is Nets problem that among these 3 Harden has a great possibility to get injured because his body is not athletic and he is not working to be more tough and avoid injuries.... It is Nets problem that they need 3 potential future hall of famers to beat 1 guy and two all stars and when they are not all together just whine about it... You say that if the Nets are all together they can beat the bucks.. ok maybe yes and maybe not... The thing is that i dont believe that we gonna see this exactly because they are soft and get injured... Maybe in a parallel universe where injuries dont exists and Giannis dot train to much to come back after a week from an injury that would cause thw end of the year for the most of them. In a parallel universe where the Nets can find somebody to stop giannis in the paint, and in a parallel universe where my grand mother has wheels... Imao
@@marinusvanderlubbe4031 Mt argument is not that the Bucks didnt deserve to win. I said multiple times that it is deserved. Im just saying things won't fall into place like they did this year. In order to beat a healthy Nets team (For example) i personally believe Giannis needs to get a jumper and more consistent from the line. Am i wrong about that?
@@rundacourt773 why giannis has to have a jumper if he can score 40 or 50 in the paint and the only way to deal with him is to double or triple team him... When they do he always finds the open man...he had 50 pts in the final.... 50 of 105... You suggest that he can do better with a 3pt...? Giannis wont be better at 3pts and durant wont be so dominant in the paint... Lets move on...
@@rundacourt773 And for me and for my stupid way of seeing things its not 3pts that make Giannis unstoppable but the free throws.... Cause if Giannis have 85% and not 50% that means maybe 10 pts more... 10 pts and foul problems for the opponents... If giannis starts to be something like porzingis lets say then he will lost the one thing that makes hime unstoppable... The pts in the paint, the free throws, the foul problems to the other teams bigs and the assist to the open men in the 3pt line... That is that you cant understand...
KD's was not on the line and then he misses. what do you say about that? there is no what if that count right now.
That’s not my argument
Could have just said that you would like to see improvements in some part of Giannis's game as the Lakers,heat got better and the competition would be tougher next season. The fact that you said that the Nets would have beat the bucks in 5 is stupid. Just like the Brooklyn series, the bucks fell 0-2 to the suns,guess what????They came back. So its like you're discrediting the bucks win.
Kyrie harden and KD is already unrealistic. If nets won would harden be considered better because his team won? This whole narrative that you need to win doesn’t make any sense. One player isn’t going to win a series regardless of who you are. Watch Giannis’ jumper he was using in the finals it’s looking good. If you’re still criticizing after this man won a championship what are we even doing here. Total joke.
Not criticizing. Just giving my thoughts
You keep trying to change the narrative, bro cant control the outcomes of players injuries just give the man his fucking flowers, THIS SAME ARGUMENT COULD BE USED AGAINST THE SUNS. Suns wouldntve gotten out the first round if lakers were healthy and wouldntve gotten past the clippers if they werent healthy but they did. Bro i get they beat your Miami Heat but stop the hate
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So you are Basically Giannis guarded by Scrawny KD....got it 👍
just one more hater.
I actually really like Giannis
I take it your a suns fan and a hater
I’ll take bets nets win opening day by 25
I wouldn’t bet against you
@@rundacourt773 Ill take that Bet. Want to Bet me? 🤓
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