The ONLY Cho'gall Guide You'll EVER Need! (10 Man Heroic)
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- Опубліковано 1 гру 2024
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Hey everyone, some things I forgot to mention:
Our Raid Comp is 2 Healers (Disc, HolyP), 2 Tanks (Blood, ProtP), and 6 DPS (Boomkin, Ele, Fire, Assassination, Arms, Survival). 3 Healers will make it tough to meet the damage checks so I recommend sticking to 2.
Also, you do have a corruption meter during this fight that I briefly mentioned. It shouldnt be too much of a factor if you're performing all the mechanics as mentioned, but here's how it works:
25% you get a dispellable corruption debuff.
50% you start to vomit infront of yourself, so in the 2nd phase you should loose spread and look away from your raid.
75% tentacles will spawn on your shoulders and shoot shadowbolts.
100% you get a 100% damage increased buff, Instant Cast Spells, and can no longer be healed.
The reason groups have their mage get the 100% is to boost damage of course, but also because mages can Iceblock Shadow orders to stay alive longer, and they benefit a ton from the instant pyroblasts yadda yadda mage stuff. Since you only get 1 brez in 10 man, and there will also be more shadowbolt damage from the 75% effect, you dont really want more than 1 person to do this.
For the most part, you don't want to gain corruption (and really wont gain much at all), unless you're actively trying to gain it like our Mage did. Just do the mechanics, and you won't have to think about it much.
As always, thanks for all the support! Appreciate you guys a ton!
lol i was making a comment to ask about that after I posted it I saw this lmao thanks for vid!
Yeah. The damagecheck is terrible. But we managed it with 3 healers for our first kill.
We dispelled everything. So no one with the damage boost 😀
Time goes by and gear got better. Now we play 2 healers. Big difference
Love the guides, they are extremely well thought out and presented. One thing I just noticed is that with your comp once Fire Ele drops you're losing 4% spell power from totem of wrath w/o another fire totem down. On Sinestra you were keeping up searing totem so it was there for that one.
Yeah probably, im just bad
@@Bigolbktofwtr2 nah you guys are killin it, and I'm sure that's not even on your radar when trying to raid lead progression.
@djmlax89 i should get a weak aura haha would help a lot
Mage gives 6% spell power from Arcane Brilliance though, so fire totem should always be searing/fire ele if you have mage
@@lurde8256 you're right, but the totem of wrath effect comes from having any fire totem active now as opposed to being it's own totem in WotLK, and provides 10% spellpower (same as demo lock) versus the 6% from mage
Nice Guides!
Help a lot in our guild progress. Thanks and keep the good work.
Appreciate it a ton! :)
so Fojji is showing the corruption meter, do you know what group it's located in? can't seem to find it anywhere
Hey man great guides, your discord link on twitch is invalid, can you link one here?
Uhh I just updated it, the discord is super inactive tbh but if you wanna join or shoot me a message you def can: discord.gg/bx9trts3fS
What direction is best to tank Cho to bait the elementals in a good spot for melee? My melee is complaining they don’t see or can’t reach them easy
Most groups just tank him facing towards the throne. The ele's will always spawn on his left and right but if you're constantly trying to min max it you're just going to get ele's spawning in the middle of the room. Just try to pull cho towards the ele when it spawns, cleave it down quickly, and then go back.
Im newer to raid leading and havent played every class is there a way i could learn all the group cds and what they do to give better call outs? Like what is “am”?
Auramastery hpala cd.you have rallying cry warrior. Disc priest barrier. Druid tranq. Shammy spirit link.
@@adamwhittaker5822Prot pal divine guardian, unholy dk amz, priest hymn.
Im new to raid leading as well, its a bit of a learning curve.
For starters, you could look up the classes in your raid and just quickly scan their abilities. See about things youve never heard of, and think when they might be useful. Icy veins normally lists raid cds for each class as well.
The best way to know more about a class is to play them, so if you have the time maybe level one, leveling is super easy now days, but i get it if thats off the table.
You can also just ask your raid members what cds they have sometime. There might be some guide online about raid cd's in cata so you can try googling that.
Here are the big ones you should look out for though,
Unholy - AMZ
Resto shaman - Spirit Link
HolyP - Aura Mastery
ProtP - Divine Guardian
Druid - Tranq
Warrior - Rallying Cry
Disc - Barrier
Priest - Hymn (mana and health hymns)
There also are a bunch of external cds such as pain supression, or blessing of protection that can be super helpful on fights as well though. Good luck on your research!
Great guide! Me and my friends have been watching your guides and have improved a lot, specially in understanding the fight more easily. This is super informative.
I have one particular question though, why do you call for people NOT to kick you at 13.10?
Thanks! I had a shadow crash landing directly on top of me while I was MC'd which is why I didn't want people to kick me. If they kicked the MC then I was not going to be able to move in time to avoid the Shadow Crash which probably wouldn't be the end of the world but if I were low HP it could potentially result in my death.
@@Bigolbktofwtr2 yeah makes a lot of sense. I didn't realize that, maybe because I play high movility classes :P. Ty for answering!
Love watching your guides. one qeustion tho. we been progressing on it for like 4/5 pulls. but our tanks sometimes litteraly just get one shot. even tho we kill the fire elmental pretty quickly
If folks worship too long, they buff boss dmg.
Tanks probably want a cooldown up for taunt swap when they pick boss up so they dont get melee's for 60k back to back.
@@Scg1337 yh our interupts are quick. Idk about the rest. I heard them say they just get hit 3 times in a row and it kills them
Yeah tank damage can get spicy but just need to use tank CDs and externals and your healers need to be heads up and assume the big damage is going to be there and throw some big heals at the tanks for a few seconds even if it ends up overheating
Yeah chogall just cranks just make sure to have some CD's or externals when fire hits, and also make sure youre not getting any extra damage from things like depravity, conversion, elementals, all that stuff.
@@Bigolbktofwtr2 yea funny thing was. our first pull we got it took 1000k and every pull after was just worse xD
How did the mage manage to survive? I die with the raidwide damage, and I take the first 3 shadows to get corruption stacks. Should I wait to take stacks until the second add that casts the shadow-thing?
He iceblocks first shadow orders, use things like mage armor, and whatever else, youll die start of 2nd phase
Hey dude great guide, just wondering how you're quickly dropping raid markers like that? some kind of macro? thanks
@@KazuyaHearthstone Method Raid Tools allows you to keybind them!
@Bigolbktofwtr2 thanks man our 10 man guild have been watching all your videos 👍
@@KazuyaHearthstone Appreciate it a ton! :) Lemme know if you guys have any questions would love to help!
Nice video
Be carful stunning just kick the MC I play prot warrior for one of my guilds and I was using shockwave to interupt like 10ppl at once but even tho it breaks the MC the player is stunned for the duration of the stun you use
can i have ur mrt profile?
Council guide?
Prob not for another week or two unfortunately, were not worrying much about council because their loot table sucks and its one of the hardest fights
And it's REALLY buggy, about 40% of our pulls were scuffed @@Bigolbktofwtr2
The reason its a fire mage is because its 100% crit buff
And remind them to switch to mage amor for the resistance and mana after, cuz they wont need crit from molten armor.
Yes they can utilize the effect the best with one brez and spreading ignite and combust and the crit buff
@@Ixiom15 makes sense!
It's not a crit buff. It makes your casts instant, and Mages have Pyroblast which enables them to convert instant casts to damage better than any other class. Also they switch to Mage Armor for the mana regen because dumping instant pyros is pretty taxing on the mana pool.