KISS - Shock Me/Outta This World + Tommy & Eric Jam [Zurich 2013]
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2013
- Kiss, live at Hallenstadion, Zurich on June 20, 2013 during their Monster World Tour.
Set List:
01. Psycho Circus
02. Shout It Out Loud
03. Let Me Go, Rock And Roll
04. I Love It Loud
05. Hell Or Hallelujah
06. War Machine
07. Heaven's On Fire
08. Deuce
09. Say Yeah
10. Shock Me/Outta This World + Tommy & Eric Jam
11. Gene Solo + God Of Thunder
12. Lick It Up
13. Love Gun
14. Rock And Roll All Night
15. Detroit Rock City
16. I Was Made For Lovin' You
17. Paul Solo + Black Diamond
Kiss:
Paul Stanley: Vocal and Guitar
Gene Simmons: Vocal and Bass
Tommy Thayer: Vocal and Guitar
Eric Singer: Vocal and Drums
To the Tommy haters - yes, Ace is the original member, and his 8 years or so with the band were key to the band's career and start-up, but he's only a small part of KISS's history. Kullick and Thayer both have longer tenures than Frehley, and both guitarists were part of successful eras of KISS and Thayer is a phenomenal guitarist and vocalist in his own right, able to play songs from each former KISS guitarist and his own, and his fifteen year tenure with KISS is a testament to that.
He plays Ace-era KISS songs in a way that's reminiscent of him, but brings his own style to the table, and he's an expert vocalist - and one of my idols and inspirations as a guitarist, and I watch and listen to Thayer-era guitar playing all the time to try and emulate and learn from his playing.
Anyway, there are generations of KISS fans where Frehley is barely on the radar. Kids grew up listening to the highly successful 1980s-era of KISS, and there are KISS fans like myself who were born in the 1990s and grew up in the Thayer era, where old records and archived concert footage is the only bit of Ace that we'll ever see. I can recognize Ace's early years as influential to the ultimate direction of KISS in the early years, but as proven by KISS's success and longevity after he left, he's clearly not absolutely irreplaceable.
Thayer is a big KISS and Ace Frehley fan, and he was put in the dream position of working for the band and eventually being a back-up to Frehley in the reunion years, ultimately being paid by Stanley and Simmons to adopt the persona full-time. Can you say you wouldn't be a version of the Spaceman if Simmons said "Wear this outfit and I'll give you a massive check"?
I have wondered what a Thayer-persona would be that wasn't the Spaceman, but it doesn't really matter, since Simmons and Stanley pull the strings anyway, and Thayer isn't uncomfortable in his role as the Spaceman character, and he is clearly a valuable member of the band in his position.
finaly someone who understands everything
Tbh I actually prefer Shock me and Outta this world mixed together than just one or the other and i dont care who wears the makeup, as long as they play good
Unless you are from an era where KISS was literally taking over the world you cannot appreciate a genius like Ace Frehlley. Yes you can go online and find things but you cannot actually feel what the impact of KISS was on the world at that time. Ace, Peter, Paul and Gene are KISS. Paul and Gene know this but have personal and egotistical views on this matter.They can try to play dress up with two guys to capture that original formula and to a certain extent the brainwashing has worked just listen to you but the people they want to convince people like myself they cant so they just take a deep breath and count the money.
Thommy thayer awesome
Eric And Tommy Rocks!
I agree. You and Tommy rocks! :D
His voice is amazing!
Tommy Thayer kicks ass. Awesome song and a great singer. I hope Tommy writes a few more songs for KISS' next record.
Has KISS even made any new records? I guess if they were any good I would've known. Unbelievable, Tommy Thayer making music as Ace. At least Eric Carr and Vinnie Vincent came up with their own characters.
+Mike Mace Paul created those characters, buddy
+Mike Mace grow up. They have made new records - highly appreciated by fans and critics, to be precise. And if you turn them arround you'll find Tommy's pic with his name "Tommy Thayer" beneath it ;)
I find it funny how people keep hating on Tommy and Eric. I bet a thousand dollars that if Gene, Paul, Tommy, and Eric were the original lineup from 1973 and then they left and Ace and Peter came in you guys would say that they suck. I'm tired of hearing that KISS is a cover band nowadays. If you haters think you can do better then do it and shut up and stop crying, because the fact is that Tommy and Eric are good and KISS is still one of the best bands Today.
I agree.
ur an idiot. They get what they get and they knew what they were signing up for.
Tommy and Eric are great! I really don't understand why so much hate. Both of them are awesome and Kiss will be always a fantastic band.
Kiss is a cover band. Fake Frehley and Cheater Criss are straight up imitators - imposters. I can see the same at one of the many Kiss cover band concerts throughout the world.
I Love Tommy💖💖👏 his voice is so perfect!!😍😍
Tommy is another kind of blessing❤️❤️🚀🚀 A gift from above.
It really is OUTTA THIS WORLD ❤️❤️🚀🚀
Eric kicked butt again!
i love tommy thayer
i love Tommy Thayer And Ace Frehley !!!! ❤❤❤
+Tammy Galaxy Tommy just hack Space Ace...
+Jamp 743 no he didn't, he did some altercations to his costume and his makeup is silver, not blue.
thats not possible
Tommy is an excellent singer and guitarist, he took on a difficult role, he probably didn't create another character because of Paul and Gene himself. Everyone knows that Spaceman is a classic, and they found someone they managed to keep with attitude.
Well said!
I like how Tommy says "and baby if you do what you've been told"
Love the Eric/Tommy jam! Nice addition to the concert. I think it works.
Otta this world rocks! Love to have more from. Tommy n Eric. I play this song so much & loud n proud the way it should! Good job Tommy!!
Eric and tommy are gifts from above🐱🚀🐱🚀
"OH TAAAHMMEEEY!"
I saw these guys at Rockfest in Cadott, WI (my third time seeing them live) and I just about cried when they switched to Outta This World because I was so happy X'D
Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer!!!🥰❤❤❤😘🇧🇷
I don't get all the Tommy and Eric bashing they sound great to me. They may not be ace and Peter but,they hold their own
Great vocal performance
very cool i love
Soooo good!
*sigh* Tommy is really a sensational guitarist who was saddled with Ace's gimmick. I just don't understand why he wasn't allowed a character of his own like Eric Carr and Vinnie Vincent had other than the sight recognition of the Spaceman character.
I wish fans would place the hatred where it squarely belongs.
I agree. Tommy should have his own character. But it's also kinda cool thinking that Ace and Tommy are like "the same species" because Tommys make-up has quite a lot small changes - like a different face.
Well yeah, lol, Jendell would be a very lonely planet if it was only inhabited by Ace.
But seriously, I think the main reason for not having Tommy and Eric come up with their own characters and makeup is money plain and simple. KISS corp. owns the characters and profits from usage of them, not Tommy and Eric. It's not throwing negativity at KISS, it's the truth. Tommy and Eric won't profit as the Catman or the Spaceman post-KISS because they don't own the characters. Paul and Gene as well as whichever child of theirs they grant ownership of the company to will make all the money utilizing the gimmicks Ace and Peter created.
In truth I think Eric and Tommy would make more money as musicians in the long run by having their own bands. I know Paul is very KISS centered but he should loosen the yolk and allow Tommy and Eric to play in their own bands when not contractually obligated to be with KISS. Eric still has ESP and I'm sure Tommy can get a band together, maybe reform Black & Blue or go in a different musical direction altogether, perhaps into making true Metal music. Tommy definitely has the right sound for it.
would definitely be cool :)
Good point. Gene & Paul plugged these two guys into the line up mid tour when Ace & Peter bailed after Australia. They thought it would be easier to just keep the wheels turning like this because the reason people started going to KISS concerts again was to be able to experience something that they thought they weren't ever gonna. It's why I went to 7 shows starting in 96. I saw them 3 times on one tour. I was on shrooms and paper acid all 7 times, but that's just how I like to go to concerts. Its a religious experience for me.
Can you think of any character Tommy and Eric could be?
Best part of all the gig
OuttA this WorlD!!❤
Tommy and Eric are pulling all the weight now.
Tommy Thayer signing Shock Me?
love his voice so sexy and handsome they all are !
pretty good for hired guns getting paid by the hour!
sososososososososo geil
This would be even better if they let Tommy sing When The Lightning Strikes instead Shock Me
Tell me how ?
I am a the biggest ACE fan. The "Outta This World" was actually pretty good. The "Shock Me" sucked beyond belief.
The first line of Shock Me should be "Ace's lighting is all I need..."
Amazing on how people bag on Tommy and Eric when Ace and Peter gave up the colors for a Million EACH and didn't give a shit about KISS! People sure forget how bad those two were. I've seen KISS 10 times and aside from the beginning those two SUCKED! These guys at least care and always do their best. I'd rather see Tommy and Eric anytime those hacks! And I am 58 and from New York and was on board since Dressed to Kill!
wise words
Kiss has gone 1 whole step down already?! Can't wait to hear them play baritone guitars
I wish he did the smoking guitar solo
4:16 👌👌👌👌👌
Ace blew it had 2 chances and couldn't keep it together. I grew up with Kiss in 70's and Ace was massive back then. The Reunion tour was embarrassing Ace played like crap.
Tommy gets paid to do a job and be reliable.
They would sound so great now if Paul's voice didn't sound like a dying cat mixed with an old Jewish grandma.
ales is valenta is tone def
You gotta give Tommy some credit though. Yes, it's not as good as Ace, but considering Tommy had a big place to fill when Ace left he's not doing a bad job. He can sing quite well, and he has very good guitar skills. Yes, he will never come close to Ace, but he's not a horrible addition to KISS.
Hell yeah!!!!! Tommy you rock of course he's not ace because no one is space ace but you can't sit here and say he sucks shit he's better than all of yall in here at guitar so shut up
ace is the king of kiss on gutair
I do. And so do most other KISS fans, especially those who have standards!
I could see letting Ace slip by because he was never a good singer to begin with, but Paul? I have high expectations. Same goes for his songs. When he whips out a weak (Gene-ish?) song like "Bang Bang You" or "Read My Body" I cringe.
this is not KISS
yeah it is
( sarcasm?)
This is KISS.
jkrantz23
I find it funny how people keep hating on Tommy and Eric. I bet a thousand dollars that if Gene, Paul, Tommy, and Eric were the original lineup from 1973 and then they left and Ace and Peter came in you guys would say that they suck. I'm tired of hearing that KISS is a cover band nowadays. If you haters think you can do better then do it and shut up and stop crying, because the fact is that Tommy and Eric are good and KISS is still one of the best bands Today.
Far better voice than Ace
Fake Frehley is the pits. A wooden statue imitator. Simply woeful.
Will he ever come up with something original?
They didn't hire him for his originality...Sadly
No, because he's playing a role. He can only ever do what Ace did, from the pointing to the way he tries to hold his guitar. He's a plug, hope he gets prostate cancer.
HIS song ... HIS solo (who is better than Ace by the way) Thats originality !
MrGod1973 Not even the name is original: Outta This World...Space theme right?? Hmm, I think i've seen that before.
***** It dont mean a thing !!
pobre diablo
What a joke
Yeah the Kiss joke always shocks me
When they think these two clowns could be ace and Peter
Get your own personality face paint and playing style
Then come back
pobre tipo...
So cringe
Just like 7th grade when we all got up and played with two by fours pretending to be KISS......Ace is great, Tommy not
I did not like Tommy singing Shock Me
why not?
Tommy’s singing is amazing
@@raedroid1703 You must be tone deaf. He is terrible.
Wrong on all level
tommy clown
I find it funny how people keep hating on Tommy and Eric. I bet a thousand dollars that if Gene, Paul, Tommy, and Eric were the original lineup from 1973 and then they left and Ace and Peter came in you guys would say that they suck. I'm tired of hearing that KISS is a cover band nowadays. If you haters think you can do better then do it and shut up and stop crying, because the fact is that Tommy and Eric are good and KISS is still one of the best bands Today.
Oh my God..Tommy sounds like a Robot version of Ace.And Half of his Playing, is out of Tune!!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed. Even his act is robotic. The way he points and the way he tries to hold his guitar. I even see him doing Ace's thumbs up. So sad.
You guys are just bitter, his guitar playing is fine and so is his stage presence! Honestly, if he wasn't wearing Ace's makeup or singing Ace's song you wouldn't mind so stop hating on the poor guy for doing the job he is paid to do.
This is fucking terrible.
I've loved this band, hardcore since 1975. That being said, Christ, this is embarrassing. Paul's voice is *shot* and an impersonator doing Ace's song. God guys, end it.
Paul and Gene are not right in the head if they think this is better then Ace in the band.
TheHappynot anything is better than Ace in the band
Ace was so much better
This is very bad version of Shock Me
longtime kiss fan, but really can't decide which is worse... the obvious imitation of a jimmy page / bonzo solo thing or tommy trying to appropriate the ace signature song... can't support this
I fucked Ace once. He is a power bottom.