krillin stepping on the remote was more so because of a moral dilemma he had about taking away someone's individuality by harming them when they cant even help themselves, it wasn't out of simping like most people misunderstand. Vegeta's was out of pure arrogance and stupidity, he 100% deserved what was coming to him
Krillin is worse....you left it up to Vegeta to finish the job and he's not a finisher. Krillin you as a person already don't trust Vegeta as is. Both were selfish, one for pride, one for love🤷🏿♀️
@treywhitner427 Exactly my point! It's like they somehow forgot that for all of the power cell had, he (along with everyone else) had NO way of detecting or tracking them if they got far enough away.
It was 17's fault, then 18's, then Krillin's, then Vegeta's, and finally Trunks's. How was it Trunks's fault? The _moment_ he saw 18 after hearing Vegeta mess up, he could have done a basic ki blast into GG, reviving 17 and 18 afterwards if Krillin really wanted to Talk no Jutsu them into doing so (since 17 and 18 were still cyborgs and not full androids, so they 100% could be revived).
😂😂😂 bruh i laughed sooo hard when this man said "why would you rob peter to pay paul when you had the money to pay paul in the first place" 😂😂😂 literal tears bro im crying.
Fr Vegeta is like that kind of cartoon character who gets everything he wants perfectly and then instantly loses it all to a dumb gag in the last closing seconds. Bro is the Charlie Brown of shounen anime rivals: great at running up just to constantly fumble the ball.
I know if I was Trunks, my blood pressure would be through the roof seeing Vegeta sell the whole fight, all because he wanted to flex he superiority. He probably understood at that moment why Bulma never talked about his dad at all.
Vegeta had his one and only chance to beat a main villain , and threw it away for a stronger opponent. Only for Perfect Cell to literally blow out his back minutes afterwards.
Shower thought: Perfect Cell is Goku's fault because Goku made letting your opponent power up to max and still winning look cool, and Vegeta couldn't let that slide.
Vegeta later on in the arc legitimately apologized to Gohan for getting his arm broken. Vegeta in the most literal terms was looking SORRY af during the Android saga.
Dude's failures go further back than that. Vegeta could've straight packed up Gero, but he was mouthing off. Gero himself stated (while hiding from the Z-fighters) that he couldn't face him as he is. After he gets violated by 18 and goes to the room of Spirit and Time, he had his head too far up his own ass to show Trunks how to better throw hands. IMO, Vegeta's at fault for Trunks getting violated by Cell.
Nah... krillin had that task in EZ mode, krillin know damn well he don't stand a chance against semi cell and thought letting cell reach perfect was ight for him
@PatheonPrime true, but it's not like he knew he was gonna get it in the end, he literally thought 17 and 18 were already in a relationship, BTW that profile picture is funny af
You're right about this being Vegeta's fault. People wanna blame Krillin, but Krillin only didn't destroy 18 because her saw her humanity (of course he had a crush on her, but that's part of seeing her humanity). But this would have been a nonfactor if Vegeta had just done what he easily could have and destroyed Cell... or at least not gotten in Trunks's way
Saying its Vegeta's fault as opposed to Krillin is WILD. #18 was still an enemy. Vegeta and Goku have a GENETIC disposition to fight, Krillin hitting the button nullifying Vegeta's arrogance is far more impactful than Vegeta letting Cell go to only come up short on androids and being stuck semi perfect. Krillin doomed the world and Goku paid the price.
@@cooluno_9 Yes. Counter. Had Krillin just pushed the button, would that not have resulted in not only a win; but a far slimmer margin of error than relying on punch crazy aliens?
That wasn't TFS. That was the original English dub. It's literally the 2 main ingredients of my gym routine. Vegeta: I do a lot of push-ups. And I drink plenty of juice.
Love your vids bro just one small suggestion that everyone who uses the "weave" audio clip, apply a small fade to the start of it like .25 and that it'll sound much smoother
Look, I’m a die hard Vegeta fan, but I’m putting both the blame on Vegeta and Krillin. Now Vegeta could’ve packed up semi perfect cell. He didn’t, so krillin should’ve pressed that remote and killed 18. Now it’s called the “cell” arc cuz multiple people sold.
My answer is honestly C. Because if Vegeta had packed up Cell, we wouldn't get Perfect Cell but knowing Vegeta, it was bound to happen. We had one fallback and that was Krillin with the remote to blow up android 18 so Cell couldn't absorb her to obtain his perfect form but bro just had to turn into a simp at the wrong time and destroyed the thing so they were cooked.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 isn’t it funny when you rewatch it again and all kinds of solutions come running through your head on how to solve this problem? You’re absolutely right she could’ve left the island that whole damn time but didn’t do so! I remember vividly yelling at the tv telling her to “RUN BITCH!” It’s funny when you look back on it
If Pride Growth Before The Fall was a person...Vegeta got too much dip on his chip, happily let Cell absorb 18 (revenge for his arm? Most likely but it's always GREATER GOOD NOW, REVENGE LATER!!!) and the world had to be saved by an 11 year old. Yeah, the 11 year old was Gohan (or HIMHAN according to CNS) BUT IT SHOULDN'T HAVE COME TO THAT! How Vegeta got a pumpkin sized forehead underneath that McDonald's hairline but a pea brain when it matters the most???
the fact that cooluno is making a video about vegetable beating the hell out of second form cell and i’m literally right on this arc since i’m watching dragon ball for the first time is just funny to me what a coincidence 😂👌🏿
Everyone knows vegeta isn't to blame Because 1. goku, trunks, bulma, and piccolo knew vegeta would do something stupid like that 2. Trunks could've killed cell 3. Krillin could've just done his job and revive the androids cuz that was his plan anyways 4. Goku could've went in first and then let Gohan or him kill cell 5. Android 18 could've killed herself 6. Android 16 could've just ran with her or killed her himself Or 7. Piccolo and tien could've just went with Trunks to stop vegeta if he did some stupid shit
Y'all crucify krillen for that dang Remote, but Nah, we Let Vegeta get THE BIGGEST PASS WHEN HE COULD'VE PACKED UP CELL AND GOT A MASSIVE W!!!!! THE MATH AIN'T MATHIN
Krillin may have been clouded by horniness but he did also genuinely feel bad for the androids after finding out they used to be human, so his crushing the remote is also still him being a good guy. Also on top of this fact he was actively watching Vegeta beat the dog piss out of Cell, meaning he likely thought Vegeta would FINISH THE JOB and make destroying 18 completely unnecessary Vegeta not killing Cell and actively stopping Trunks from doing so was 100% selfish
Krillin: Morally torn by the task of killing a (relatively) innocent woman in cold blood, who he also loves, to stop cell. Vegeta: Got called potentially weak and is completely at peace with the decision to bet the entire world on not only letting him live longer, but by letting cell become more powerful too.
I blame Krillin. Vegeta wanting to fight a stronger, that's genetics. Goku would've done the same thing. Krillin risking the fate of the world for pus*y, that's diabolical.
This is why GT vegeta is the only version of vegeta i legit like, all that pointless ego gone, just replaced with a cool calm demeanor backed up by experience, wisdom of age and genuine fighting talent instead of "I'M THE PRINCE THEREFORE I AM THE STRONGEST ME ME ME ME"
I chose B because: - 18 didn’t do anything evil in this timeline, she didn’t deserve to die - like you said, Vegeta could have killed Cell (unlike Krillen)
@@cooluno_9 Yes, it just worked out for him gang. He was still a simp then but he clutched up later on and secured the baddie, honestly pretty immaculate rizz if you ask me but it only came after the simp era. He folded bro, for the andrussy
Shit man imagine if king K-rill had that ascended super sayin power going on? He would have dome pieced cell and vegeta. Wouldnt give a damn about vegetas pride and prolly woulda tried that super huge ultra trunks style form out on semi perfect cell for an absolute wash session
It’s so hard to be a die-hard vegeta fan but seeing him shine like this makes it worth it
As long as you don't watch the next episode where Vegeta absolutely shits the bed
These moments is what I live for
We struggle proudly to see moments like this
Preach
Facts
Being a vegeta fan is like being a photographer. We only get our moments once in a lifetime.
Vegeta betraying his son so Cell could power up and whoop Vegeta's ass is infinitely worse than Krillin stepping on the remote.
Cause at least Krillin got a baddie out of it
krillin stepping on the remote was more so because of a moral dilemma he had about taking away someone's individuality by harming them when they cant even help themselves, it wasn't out of simping like most people misunderstand. Vegeta's was out of pure arrogance and stupidity, he 100% deserved what was coming to him
@@jxrrxd4713Let’s be honest here, Krillin wouldn’t have had such a “moral dilemma” if it was 17 left after 18 got absorbed
@@jxrrxd4713dawg that whole moral dilemma was over a kiss there shouldn’t have been any hesitation they literally kill him in the future 😶
Krillin is worse....you left it up to Vegeta to finish the job and he's not a finisher. Krillin you as a person already don't trust Vegeta as is. Both were selfish, one for pride, one for love🤷🏿♀️
Hear me out: Its actually 17's fault because he and 18 had EVERY opportunity to escape undetected while 16 was putting paws on Cell.
Hell even 18 could had disappeared for good when Tien was fucking up cell.
Very True. And 18 could've left 16 behind, Cell wasn't interested in him at all.
Damn near everyones fault
@treywhitner427 Exactly my point! It's like they somehow forgot that for all of the power cell had, he (along with everyone else) had NO way of detecting or tracking them if they got far enough away.
It was 17's fault, then 18's, then Krillin's, then Vegeta's, and finally Trunks's.
How was it Trunks's fault? The _moment_ he saw 18 after hearing Vegeta mess up, he could have done a basic ki blast into GG, reviving 17 and 18 afterwards if Krillin really wanted to Talk no Jutsu them into doing so (since 17 and 18 were still cyborgs and not full androids, so they 100% could be revived).
😂😂😂 bruh i laughed sooo hard when this man said "why would you rob peter to pay paul when you had the money to pay paul in the first place" 😂😂😂 literal tears bro im crying.
Times like these make you forget that vegeta works in retail the way he usually sells
Disrespectful bro😭
Nah we need to speak on how Vegeta elbowed cell and when this man Cell was falling he stopped him from falling just to keep putting the hands on him.
Has all the energy of Slade catchin' Robin that one episode
Vegeta should be on an american football team the way he be throwing i swear
They really made my favorite character a Dallas QB, cooking up the scrubs in the regular season until it’s final boss time smh
Fr Vegeta is like that kind of cartoon character who gets everything he wants perfectly and then instantly loses it all to a dumb gag in the last closing seconds. Bro is the Charlie Brown of shounen anime rivals: great at running up just to constantly fumble the ball.
Ultra ego 😢 vegeta is great 👍
“How are you THIS strong?!”
“I trained ALL DAY yesterday.”
"Ohh you think you're bein CUTE"
Bitch, I'm adorable.
"Bitch, I'm ADORABLE!"
Bitch im fucking adorable
@@thecameraman6275 "BITCH I'm adorable 😏"
I know if I was Trunks, my blood pressure would be through the roof seeing Vegeta sell the whole fight, all because he wanted to flex he superiority. He probably understood at that moment why Bulma never talked about his dad at all.
Vegeta had his one and only chance to beat a main villain , and threw it away for a stronger opponent. Only for Perfect Cell to literally blow out his back minutes afterwards.
anyone else lock in to the persona music randomly
On Instinct 😅
Shower thought: Perfect Cell is Goku's fault because Goku made letting your opponent power up to max and still winning look cool, and Vegeta couldn't let that slide.
Stop giving Vegeta bags as he keeps FUMBLING
"Go ahead and pack it up man put the fries in the bag bro"
Bro thinks Cell is Deku💀
this was the 1st and last time the final flash was a real threat
4:53 bro what is this frame? Why Cell tail curled up like that? Got that boy looking like the hospital symbol 💀
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bro's subconscious was sending subliminals
Nah I put this strictly on Vegeta for perfect cell🤷🏿♂️ me personally Vegeta & Trunks should’ve jumped Cell, turned this into a mini arc
Honestly after seeing his pops dogging Cell so easily, Trunks could've just left to find 18 and kill her
I mean Vegeta could have killed him if he wanted too. He just wanted to flex some more.
The 1st of his 2 relevant wins in the whole series
Idk why the TRESemme joke was so funny to me but I had to pause the video for a sec to laugh.
Fun fact.
The title of the episode after Cell transformed was this...
"Vegeta Must Pay"
.... yep, he sure did 😎
A lot of joy comes to my life when i hear the saying "beat the goofy out of"
Cell's stomach was the previous endourcer of getting a fist indent left into his body before cabba
I love when Vegeta’s locked in, too bad he gets put on a highlight reel by his own dumb mistakes
Vegeta later on in the arc legitimately apologized to Gohan for getting his arm broken. Vegeta in the most literal terms was looking SORRY af during the Android saga.
Dude's failures go further back than that. Vegeta could've straight packed up Gero, but he was mouthing off. Gero himself stated (while hiding from the Z-fighters) that he couldn't face him as he is. After he gets violated by 18 and goes to the room of Spirit and Time, he had his head too far up his own ass to show Trunks how to better throw hands. IMO, Vegeta's at fault for Trunks getting violated by Cell.
Vegeta gotta be cowboys fan
Love the cell failed sneak counter reminds me krillin fail counter from team4star
My bro Uno been cooking all month scratch that ALL YEAR 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
A free invite to give that man backshots is crazy man LMAO!! Ayoooo!!!😂😂
Considering how on sight Perfect Cell was,He literally got the goofball smacked out his character design
Forgot the ⏸️ at 1:16 lol
Super pause
Ultra pause
Mega pause
"STOP. FISTING. MEEHEEE"
About time vegeta give out the beats 🔥😤
Nah... krillin had that task in EZ mode, krillin know damn well he don't stand a chance against semi cell and thought letting cell reach perfect was ight for him
But consider this, Krillin’s screw up got him a wife and kid. Vegeta’s screw up got him his ass kicked
@PatheonPrime true, but it's not like he knew he was gonna get it in the end, he literally thought 17 and 18 were already in a relationship, BTW that profile picture is funny af
Vegeta is bound to be a car salesman the way he be selling these fights.
You're right about this being Vegeta's fault. People wanna blame Krillin, but Krillin only didn't destroy 18 because her saw her humanity (of course he had a crush on her, but that's part of seeing her humanity). But this would have been a nonfactor if Vegeta had just done what he easily could have and destroyed Cell... or at least not gotten in Trunks's way
The fact that you put Changing Seasons from Persona 3 in the background is goated. Easily my favorite song in the game.
Saying its Vegeta's fault as opposed to Krillin is WILD.
#18 was still an enemy.
Vegeta and Goku have a GENETIC disposition to fight,
Krillin hitting the button nullifying Vegeta's arrogance is far more impactful than Vegeta letting Cell go to only come up short on androids and being stuck semi perfect.
Krillin doomed the world and Goku paid the price.
@@SkinnyRob let me ask you this of cell died right then and there would that not have been a win
@@cooluno_9 Yes.
Counter. Had Krillin just pushed the button, would that not have resulted in not only a win; but a far slimmer margin of error than relying on punch crazy aliens?
12:36
I cannot blame Krillin
So yeah Vegeta you taking the L here
Tfs vegeta once said push up and Plenty of juice
That wasn't TFS. That was the original English dub.
It's literally the 2 main ingredients of my gym routine.
Vegeta: I do a lot of push-ups. And I drink plenty of juice.
2:10 Cell probably thinks he's using something like the KaioKen to give himself a boost, so Cell thinks he's going to run out of gas and be easy.
I blame eveyone except for Tien and Piccolo. (Tien held Cell off for so long just for 18 to stand there instead of leaving.)
Love your vids bro just one small suggestion that everyone who uses the "weave" audio clip, apply a small fade to the start of it like .25 and that it'll sound much smoother
9:14 i get it gang
12:38 I give more blame to Krillin, but it's both their fault
Vegeta #1 seller, #1 jobber, #2 saiyan but this is yall goat
IT COULD NOT BE ME
The TRESemme bit almost took me to the upper room!⚰️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
cell is only feared by reputation nowadays he is straight kd booster
Nah I was waitin for this one ngl
My favorite ART of Vegeta. He looks so amaIng in arc. The muscular definition and that Sayain armor was on point!
10:04, those sound fx had me in rough shape lmao
Look, I’m a die hard Vegeta fan, but I’m putting both the blame on Vegeta and Krillin. Now Vegeta could’ve packed up semi perfect cell. He didn’t, so krillin should’ve pressed that remote and killed 18. Now it’s called the “cell” arc cuz multiple people sold.
Vegeta had it in the bag, and of course, he fucked it up by pulling a Vegeta
0:53 Facts 😳
1:27-2:55-10:20-12:02 😂
5:57 😖
6:33 Yup 🙂↕️🙂↔️
6:47-9:07 Hey yo 😳
12:30 Both 🤦🏾♂️
My answer is honestly C. Because if Vegeta had packed up Cell, we wouldn't get Perfect Cell but knowing Vegeta, it was bound to happen. We had one fallback and that was Krillin with the remote to blow up android 18 so Cell couldn't absorb her to obtain his perfect form but bro just had to turn into a simp at the wrong time and destroyed the thing so they were cooked.
Cell Saga is contained with some of the most disgusting sternum checks in anime, imo
lmao at Vegeta beating on Cell's sternum. Continuously. lmao.
Damn bruh!
It’s vegetas
He was the last to stop him n his pride got in the way! 😂😂😂😂
Perhaps one of the biggest, most iconic beatdown in the history of Dragon Ball (which is really saying something!)
12:30
D). 18 NOT FUCKING LEAVING THAT WHOLE TIME SHE HAD A CHANCE
🤣🤣🤣🤣 isn’t it funny when you rewatch it again and all kinds of solutions come running through your head on how to solve this problem?
You’re absolutely right she could’ve left the island that whole damn time but didn’t do so! I remember vividly yelling at the tv telling her to “RUN BITCH!”
It’s funny when you look back on it
Vegeta beat the goofy out of Cell to make room for 18
Both Vegeta and Krillin fumbled hard in this
If Pride Growth Before The Fall was a person...Vegeta got too much dip on his chip, happily let Cell absorb 18 (revenge for his arm? Most likely but it's always GREATER GOOD NOW, REVENGE LATER!!!) and the world had to be saved by an 11 year old. Yeah, the 11 year old was Gohan (or HIMHAN according to CNS) BUT IT SHOULDN'T HAVE COME TO THAT! How Vegeta got a pumpkin sized forehead underneath that McDonald's hairline but a pea brain when it matters the most???
SUNS UP ANOTHER DAY GOES BY 🏃🏾♂️🏃🏾♂️🏃🏾♂️🏃🏾♂️🔥🔥🔥🔥🕺🏾🗣🗣🗣
Vegeta. I love Vegeta but we all know he plays with his food.
I am so happy that you agree that vegeta is more at fault.
Imagine how Vegeta with his current mindset would react to Cell asking him to absorb Android 18
@@aidanlyons25 Cell wouldn't have lived long enough to ask.
Vegeta would give him a headstart then BOOM his ass right when he tries to.
Imma be like Vegeta. I'm 5'5" 138lbs boxer with anger issues.
10:36-10:45 One of my favorite combos by Vegeta
the fact that cooluno is making a video about vegetable beating the hell out of second form cell and i’m literally right on this arc since i’m watching dragon ball for the first time is just funny to me what a coincidence 😂👌🏿
It's about 25% Krillin and 75% Vegeta on in terms of whose fault this is.
A minute is crazyy
Everyone knows vegeta isn't to blame
Because
1. goku, trunks, bulma, and piccolo knew vegeta would do something stupid like that
2. Trunks could've killed cell
3. Krillin could've just done his job and revive the androids cuz that was his plan anyways
4. Goku could've went in first and then let Gohan or him kill cell
5. Android 18 could've killed herself
6. Android 16 could've just ran with her or killed her himself
Or
7. Piccolo and tien could've just went with Trunks to stop vegeta if he did some stupid shit
I am going to watch this videos again just to make a sternum check count
Y'all crucify krillen for that dang Remote, but Nah, we Let Vegeta get THE BIGGEST PASS WHEN HE COULD'VE PACKED UP CELL AND GOT A MASSIVE W!!!!! THE MATH AIN'T MATHIN
For Vegeta fans this where the cell saga ended
Krillin may have been clouded by horniness but he did also genuinely feel bad for the androids after finding out they used to be human, so his crushing the remote is also still him being a good guy. Also on top of this fact he was actively watching Vegeta beat the dog piss out of Cell, meaning he likely thought Vegeta would FINISH THE JOB and make destroying 18 completely unnecessary
Vegeta not killing Cell and actively stopping Trunks from doing so was 100% selfish
The P3 track makes the vid even better
This was bros only chance to beat a main villain and he sold 😭😭😭
W video, I’m late but thank you, I thought u was done with dragon ball but I need MOrE. But jokes aside love ur content keep it up 💯
2:06 lmfao 😂
6:47 wtf is this?
Vegeta hands down
Semi-Perfect Cell couldnt be the Ultimate Lifeform. He aint our boy Shadow!
Krillin: Morally torn by the task of killing a (relatively) innocent woman in cold blood, who he also loves, to stop cell.
Vegeta: Got called potentially weak and is completely at peace with the decision to bet the entire world on not only letting him live longer, but by letting cell become more powerful too.
And I love Vegeta. 😂
Has he ever done a “kill bill” fight or the ending of “once upon a time in Hollywood”?
You gotta keep goin wit the cell saga 🤣🤣
Yeah, but then proceeded to get beaten by a pulp by perfect Cell lmfao 🤣
I blame Krillin. Vegeta wanting to fight a stronger, that's genetics. Goku would've done the same thing. Krillin risking the fate of the world for pus*y, that's diabolical.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cell boomed a Magikarp wtf😂😂😂
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD 😭😭😭😭😭
I personally blame dr.gero for cell more than vegeta
This is why GT vegeta is the only version of vegeta i legit like, all that pointless ego gone, just replaced with a cool calm demeanor backed up by experience, wisdom of age and genuine fighting talent instead of "I'M THE PRINCE THEREFORE I AM THE STRONGEST ME ME ME ME"
Word
I chose B because:
- 18 didn’t do anything evil in this timeline, she didn’t deserve to die
- like you said, Vegeta could have killed Cell (unlike Krillen)
Nah can’t not blame Krillen for simpin
@@gokuFreak3 can we really call it simpinh when he got a wife a kid out of it
@@cooluno_9 Yes, it just worked out for him gang. He was still a simp then but he clutched up later on and secured the baddie, honestly pretty immaculate rizz if you ask me but it only came after the simp era. He folded bro, for the andrussy
Trunks TRESemmé ad!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I blame vegeta case closed.
12:27 Equal parts
Shit man imagine if king K-rill had that ascended super sayin power going on? He would have dome pieced cell and vegeta. Wouldnt give a damn about vegetas pride and prolly woulda tried that super huge ultra trunks style form out on semi perfect cell for an absolute wash session