As an Asian myself, the unrealistic part of this quest is actually Gaming and his father having a conversation at all about the issue. At least in my family, things will just get swiped under the rug, never to be discussed ever again.
@@pizzajaz_Yep. A lot of traditional families never talk about things overtly, and would rather just make it a gossip when the target isn't around.This has to stop.
The parental relationships in Chinese culture (from the perspective of me, a chinese person) is one that is more closed off. Parents that are so forward and stubborn with what they want for their children, and any change in that persute is not welcomed easily. Success if a very important part of the culture. It's the fear that comes from failure, not only of the dreams of the child but also the failure of the parent to bring that child to success. Gaming is a relatable character since there is a sense of being tied down from what he really wants to do. Zhongli's words to Gaming's father really hit because many chinese kids (or really anyone with these kinds of parents) see others with that freedom, and how the set path made for them has restricted their growth as a person and it really hurts as that kid really wants to live up to the expectations laid out but also would like to cut off that binding rope. That's just from my point of view though. me and my friends talk about this a lot, actually.
This has also been my experience as a kid of Chinese descent, though my parents are more loose. Their concerns are more along the lines of Yip Tak. I wasn't totally comfortable with how we went about the plan of the quest to help him, but I can also relate highly to Xianyun's desire to help.
I agree coming from Chinese descent as well. My parents are chill however my grandparents have high expectations for me to follow the tradition for example marrying a Chinese man while my parents are okay with me dating another ethnicity that is still Asian. I get a lot of criticism from my grandparents more than my actual parents. My grandfather always keeps telling me advice however sometimes the advice is a bit off or doesn’t make sense or either he rants in circles about the issue. I am currently pursuing a major in Graphic Design however my grandparents are concerned that I might turn out like my uncle who had some struggle to find a job. He has a job currently. So far I am doing my best in college. Although I still try to keep up my grades so my parents and family are proud of me.
oyea that's really explaining the whole experiences and I resonate with that, but in my case it's kinda split, because my dad is like that, but not openly talk abt what he thought, only shares that to my mom, meanwhile my mom more open, supportive and she's acting like a middle man who not speak any words that would possibly makes me and my dad mad at each other.
Not gonna lie. This whole thing has me crying due to how close to my own experience. Only my tie is now well severed. And well pass the point of no return. :(
No, but for real: The cutscene in Xianyun's story quest made me cry. Just having a parental figure seeing the traveler in distress and being emotionally there to care for them really just hit my in the feels.
i haven't pulled for Xianyun and wasn't interested her in gameplay BUT when i played her story and this event as a whole, my respect for her just peaked. her mother figure is something unique in this game. i also remember that cutscene and yes i cried lol
and i feel like it was the first time someone took care of the traveler after they got hit by the pain and suffering of being separated from their sibling because otherwise it was just paimon brushing our hurt off (i genuinely hate paimon more and more) and xianyun being there for the traveler and just giving them that motherly comfort and love no questions, no expectations, broke me so much (i was BAWLING) because traveler deserves more hugs and love than anyone in this game and they never seem to get it
This is why I love this year's Lantern Rite more than anything. As a Filipino, some parents don't listen to us nor would even give us the chance to speak our mind. In our culture, "having a conversation" to your parents equates to "talking back" which they will take high offense and they will start spitting this foul words; will say how "ungrateful and disrespectful" we are for speaking and sometimes can lead to violence. I, for one, had been physically, emotionally and mentally abused by my dad for having my own dreams and told me that I wasn't good enough and choosing a career that supports my passion will lead me nowhere. Hence Gaming story had me bawling and happy-depressed after doing it. Also, Zhongli made me tear up too. Some parents need someone who has more authority than them to start putting sense into their head. That's the only way for them to see things on different light since some of them are so close-minded to their old ways and ideals and they never understands what it feels like to be their own "child" and living into someone else's plans and dreams.
Being Filipino American I was confused by why some people were upset with the story. Now seeing the other perspective I can understand why others would feel that way. 🙏 Let's all learn together
zhongli's part in this quest was extremely relatable to me. i needed someone to intervene, a mediating party, so that my parents would hear me. many parents think they know what's best for their kids, and it's hard to get a point across when they won't even consider your side of things. zhongli being that bridge, rephrasing the things gaming feels, and being an outside eye helps yip tak recognize that it's not just gaming who feels the way he does, that there's other perspectives. it's very refreshing! edit: things are a lot better with my parents now, we have repaired our relationship by working with mediators!
calling out your own prejudice, realizing a point of privilege, and having a humble enough heart to respond in empathy/understanding. genuinely incredible. rare. thank you for sharing. you give me hope for others. much love always
I've never had a huge personal relationship with my parents, so when Xianyun jumped into auntie mode after hearing from Paimon what happened, it felt so warm to me. Like something I always craved but never got to experience. Seeing the concern from Xianyun and the concern from just everyone really made me quite emotional. Even the advice from Zhongli was realistic and supportive for both Gaming and Yip Tak. It really healed a small part of my inner child ❤ Great video Dish! I really enjoyed seeing you open up and hear other perspectives as well!
I called this storyline immediately when Gaming's backstory came out, as Mihoyo has tackled stories with increasing complexity for past few Lantern Rite events. This story hit terribly hard as a Southeast-Asian Chinese. I've always had a very rough relationship with my parents and will always keep them at a distance - I make personal life choices with input from my close friends, and it is a struggle to navigate adulthood (late 20s) without the guidance of someone who knows more about the world. I wish I had parents that I could confide in and trust but I have accepted that this would never be the case for me. My closest 'parental' figures have been people that I met at work or teachers that I still keep in contact with. My friends gave me a home and a pillar of support when I can't count on family - they have tried to speak out many times on my behalf but will always be shot down by my parents. Family is such a core value in asian/chinese culture, where I struggle to live life on my own terms without being restricted, but at the same time having to consider that my 'rebellion' is considered an attack against the family values. The kite analogy brought up by Gaming made me cry, as I have always felt that my experiences related heavily with that analogy. I work in the Engineering field, doing art on the side. I have never felt seen or heard from my parents for my successes in my creative ventures, and was never taken seriously about it. To have such a core part of your identity being dismissed as a casual interest and being told I would never be good enough has hurt me, and will continue to hurt me for the foreseeable future. It is hard to reconcile recognising that your parents only want the best for you (a more cushy, stable job), when they constantly put you down for your efforts. I continuously strive for creative improvement and bigger projects, but till this day very little accomplishments have made me feel enough for them, despite not forsaking my 'stable' day job per their requirements. You're right, the desire to please your parents never really go away - I think deep down I still wish they could approve of me, and I think that keeps coming back to hurt me. But giving that up would essentially be cutting family ties. I have accepted that I will never get true reconciliation and happiness with my family where they fully accept me for who I am, so I live vicariously through stories like Gaming's quest, Turning Red, and hopefully being able to convince myself that I am enough, not for my parents, but for myself. Thank you for your thoughtfulness and being open to our experiences and our struggles Ms Dish. It means a lot to those of us in the community.
This hit hard as a chinese person and knowing that Hoyo is a chinese company with the parent-child culture we know typically surrounds it. Was nice getting to hear everyone share in the safespace. This is what makes a great event, to bring us together like we were actually there. Not one person trying to cause problems. Whatever the writers wanted to evoke in us and aim for, they nailed it.
i didnt realise many ppl had your reaction initally to the quest, its very interesting to hear! im Chinese with a large part of my family hving a Cantonese background. Gaming's story and character resonated so much with me, from all the dim sum references to the way he pursues his artistic dreams under pressure of familial expectations. i burst out in tears during the cutscene as soon as Gaming started performing (and continued sobbing throughout HAHA). i felt like he was able to show his artistic worth to everyone with that dance, most importantly dad, who was there thanks to our help. it felt like such a triumphant moment for Gaming. the buildup of his struggles and others helping him before rlly sold this cutscene for me. 10/10 Lantern Rite i showed it to my sister and she cried too🥹❤
Fr, I am also Canto and Gaming’s story here just hit home. My parents were never ones to be warm and supportive of everything like other people’s parents, but I think me and my siblings all knew deep down that our parents just wanted the best for us. They sacrificed lots of their own life to be able to raise us kids, even if they were “wrong” in some ways like Yip Tak. The cutscene of Gaming’s performance made me cry too. Something about the music, the cinematics, and what it all meant when we saw Yip Tak there watching just made it all so fuzzy and warm. It was something that might not be reality for many young people out there, to have supportive parents and all, but in game, seeing it just made me so happy. And of course all the dim sum talk at the start of the quest was hilarious. I love that there’s so much care put into Gaming’s character, from the way he talks, the things he talks about, is passionate about, his struggles(this part hit a little too close to home haha)… I love him so much, and especially so since Canto representation in games and media is pretty low
@@megaconure right!! i remember being confused why Genshin didnt romanise Gaming's name as the Mandarin version Jiaming instead, but now i love the choice of going the extra mile to show that he's Canto
I’m Vietnamese but the cutscene where the drum starting make me feel so nostalgic and think back on when I was a little, my parents took me go see liondance at New Year. This lantern rite feels so related for me. I have supportive parents and our relationship is close as well, but I’m just so taken aback watching others’ streams and seeing they’re uncomfortable with the quest or really hate the father. The way many people see it is like Gaming has to resent the father or something and I was like how?
I had a very similar experience to yours during this quest. At first I felt quite uncomfortable and that we were invading Gamings privacy. I was thinking about my personal experiences and how violated I would feel if my situation was being told to others without my consent. It was astonishing how my feelings changed as the quest played out and provided insight on a completely different perspective. Silly little video game quests continue to surprise me with the learning opportunities they contain and I can’t wait for more!!
I noticed this was also an occurrence with the Fontaine Archon Quest and how the Traveler & Paimon behaved with Furina. Even in her friendship quest, they were both pushing to make Furina do things she hadn't felt comfortable with, and it broke the immersion for a time because I was honestly getting frustrated by it. I think they both mean well, but it was definitely a tough thing to sit through for a time.
As someone from a First-Generation Immigrant family, this quest hit extremely close to my heart. I myself saw Gaming's position in wanting to pursue a creative career and being told that it wasn't enough. I felt his pain and his experience with his father's rejection. Something I've learned through family therapy is that our parents want the best for us. They bring us the opportunity of easy life that already has guarantee success. Our parents, especially those who are immigrants, have experienced pain and disappointment and they don't want their kids to feel that as well. Gaming's father was scared of the rejection that could be thrown toward Gaming through his passion, so he tried to give Gaming that easy path to success. Initially, I was reminded of my white friends who grew with supportive parents and tried to help me with my family situation when I watched the group tried to intervene. They tried so hard to give Gaming a voice and while it could be irritable that it takes an outside voice to have your voice be heard, it is refreshing to see that Gaming got this help and accepted it because he saw a light at the end of the tunnel. I mean this with my whole heart when I say this quest is beautifully written in conveying the complexity within us. I left this quest hoping for it to be this easy for all of us, to all be able to soar like the kites that use the wind to fly among the stars. I hope you all have amazing futures. Remember, you are all an important part of the universe and deserve all the love in the world. Your problems are valid and seen.
Wow, I didn't realise there were actually such polarising opinions on this quest. As a chinese singaporean, i knew of many people with such family situations (mine included) and I know how much it feels that parents mean well but don't listen or understand their children. Many parents believe their way is the best way, so to have someone else who is on your side come and convince them to open their minds just a little is really cathartic to watch. I think this lantern rite quest is really a "wish come true" for many people. To have your parents actually open their mind and start to accept you, and even feel proud seeing you doing your best is something so many would live for. It may not be entirely realistic (many won't get such an opportunity), but to see it happen gives us hope that it could be possible, and maybe some courage to try.
I was in the chat when this happened and I still loved that the Liyue music in the background made the whole discussion so profound and philosophical. As an individual, I genuinely did feel weird about how some people actively disliked this quest and called it the weakest Lantern Rite. Maybe it is subjective, but I felt it was the strongest Lantern Rite and it hit home the most out of all the Lantern Rites so far. My family environment was mostly stable but I could still empathize with Gaming’s situation, yet still feel like the intervention from the Traveler, Paimon, and Xianyun was still well-founded.
17:10 "go from 'this is weird' to 'it's weird to me, because this isn't really about me'" i wish more people would start to make this kind of shift, especially when talking about a piece of media. your wisdom and openness is always nice to see miss dish
It is also important to note that even though the Traveler and Xianyun did open the door for Gaming to talk to his dad it was Gaming in the end who recognised his dad's efforts and decided to stay at the table to hear him. Otherwise Gaming had already ran away before, and he was willing to immediately leave again the moment he thought they were going to have the same tired conversation. Like Xianyun said in her SQ she may be an adepti but she cannot guide though who dont want help
I have been asked by many people who wanted to “fix” my problems with my father. As an indian, who has not spoken to her father in about four years after coming out as LGBT, I think the story really resonated with me and I often cried in a lot of points. I can speak as someone both culturally asian and someone with heavy trauma with her father. A lot of the points made by you were good, but I would like to say that I as well felt quite uncomfortable in the way we were intervening. By itself, it is not really an issue, but it feels like we did it behind Gaming’s back. Ofcourse there is a cultural aspect to it, but it should not disregard someone (Gaming)’s personal feelings whether he would like us to put in a good word on his behalf or invite his father. Paimon telling Xianyun about Gaming’s situation unprompted was still not her place. I do like the conclusion but the journey could have been handled a little more respectfully to Gaming’s personal wishes. The most uncomfortable I felt was when we put Gaming in that situation with his father and left to talk to Zhongli while he has to sort out trauma he was probably not ready to deal with as there was no prior knowledge that we would make him have such a confrontation. Someone speaking on my behalf never feels good if they havent run it by me first. But the ending of the quest was quite heartwarming, it did leave me in tears because the situation did end up working out and left me desiring a similar conclusion with my own father.
Same here. Chinese with estranged parents, also pressured to "fix" problems with parents. I felt the same way as you did. The lantern rite quest was heartwarming but it truly is the BEST possible outcome from their approach. With how complicated family problems are, there were a million ways the traveller and paimon's approach could have went wrong, I personally feel that they were mostly "lucky" that Ga Ming's case worked out with their plan.
I think it's really interesting because as someone who is estranged from my family if someone did what the traveler and paimon did to me, I'd stop being their friend. Like you said it just isn't their place, especially if we just met. *However* Gaming's situation is also very different, his deals with a more malleable person and a reasoning that is based a lot more on worry rather than hatred for what Gaming is doing. I think it's just really important to ask your friend before you go and do something like this, or even reach out to the people they are away from
My experience with this quest pretty much mirrored yours tbh. On my initial playthrough I really bounced off the way everyone was trying to 'fix' Gaming and his dad's relationship without permission since it's something I would feel deeply disrespected by. Watching your vod and seeing the differences in culture from chat really opened my eyes to a perspective of it being welcome to some when tensions reach an impasse. Honestly a really cool experience and I learnt a lot thanks to you & your community!
My only problem was how half of the help was built on lies which if discovered could damage the relationship more than it was already and gaming was consulted in none of it
This is such a good video. It just goes to show how powerful of a device literary media is. Not only was it evoking a feeling of validation, understanding and compassion in people who have been in similar situations but also it was able to provide context and an insight to some people who may not have had similar experiences. It was really beautiful and heartwarming to see you process the situation and then hear chat speaking up about how they connected with the story. In an age where it's getting harder and harder to understand and empathize with others, it brings a little hope to see people connect with each other on such a basic human level. It also speaks volumes on the culture you have fostered in your community. Despite your initial discomfort, you still tried your best to understand and empathize. The patience and vulnerability some chatters showed while sharing their perspective and how much thought you put into every story you heard is really uplifting. The summarization of empathy being similar to a muscle that is exercised is something that I hope sticks with me for a long time. I hope to not only empathize better but also be patient and understanding when other people try to empathize. Loved the video
Hi Dish! As a Chinese person living abroad, every lantern rite is pretty emotional haha, this year’s story with Gaming hits especially hard since I’m away from home for reasons similar to why he left home. The part that really struck me was seeing Gaming, who found success and stability on his own path (and having already made peace with probably never receiving his dad’s approval again). Seeing him, despite all that, clearly still have that deep desire to make his dad proud, I think that hit a nerve I didn’t expect. Just wanted to say thank you for using your platform both on UA-cam and Twitch to make space for this conversation
Hi, I normally never comment but this video moved me. Coming from a Hispanic household with my mom being an immigrant, the same sentiment in this quest applied growing up but with mental health. I have had an anxiety disorder since I was 15 and it took a toll on my relationship with my parents. They loved me and wanted me to feel better but since mental health tends to be pushed away in Mexican culture, their upbringing didn’t show them how to help with it. They thought that their ways of helping me were the “correct” ways and when they didn’t work or when I tried to explain what I felt like I needed, they got frustrated. In those moments, I would have given anything for an outsider to come in and explain that I wasn’t deliberately ignoring their advice, but it just wasn’t what I needed to recover. Later, my brother helped me explain what I needed them to know since they wouldn’t listen to me and they finally understood my side and I understood theirs. This quest relayed this general sentiment beautifully 💕 Thank you for sharing your point of view dish ❤
Im from a Hispanic household too (Puerto Rican) and I went through similar things as you too they would teach me the “correct way” of what I should be doing in life and none of it worked for me
Wow, this comment really made me feel seen as someone from a Hispanic household with mental health issues. I'm in the same situation. It is really difficult to try and communicate that people are different and some ways of helping don't help everyone. It also doesn't help that I don't tend to communicate well when emotional so a lot of conversations just end in both parties failing to understand each other. I love my parents and I know they love me, but sometimes I do wish I had a Paimon/Xianyun/Zhonglu who would intervene and help them understand.
I think there's also element of east vs west folklore and mythos in the 7:00 part about intervention, Gods and Demigods helping personal issues arent that uncommon in eastern stories imo. In a way, all of Liyue are the Adepti's children and they are there to guide them be it a big issue such as fighting Osial or a relatively small issue like a father-son conflict. In Genshin world, the people revere these sages and gods and they actually exist, compared to our world, they're just different.
Someone intervening in family affairs (be it relatives or other outsiders) can be perceived as beneficial or bothersome depending on personal subjective opinion. My aunt could not take it anymore and chose to inform us kids what our own parents could not bring themselves to reveal. Ultimately it boils down to the intent of the person and what outcome s/he plans to achieve with such actions. A lot of times a wheel cannot get unstuck from the mud until some external leverage is brought into play.
I agree with a lot of your sentiments and the general journey you went on in understanding this quest! For me personally, I guess it's also the matter of us having no say in how to go about this situation. I felt like I was just being wrapped up in a scheme cooked up by Xianyun and Paimon against my will. Understandably, this isn't the type of game where we could realistically make choices on how to go about quests or often even the tone with which to speak to NPCs, but it was still jarring how this whole operation just went ahead without my, the player's, input. I was like 'Wait, WAIT, Paimon, WAIT" and ultimately I think that's what made me go yikes at the quest, in the beginning at least. All Genshin quests work like this, but because this one hit juuuust a bit too close to home, it took me out for a little bit.
i don’t know if this will sound inappropriate? but it’s really so amazing to me how universal some human experiences are despite cultural differences… i’ve grown up in the southern US my entire life and have very limited knowledge of Chinese culture and yet the part of the Lantern Rite cutscene where Gaming sees his father waiting for him at the bridge with the suanni kite and they finally reconcile made me burst into tears - the first time Genshin has ever made me cry. in many ways Gaming’s father reminds me of my own father - and it made me cry to see them reconcile with each other because i wish i could have that with my own father so badly… it both makes my heart hurt but also gives me some small hope that maybe one day i can have that moment with my own father as well
I think what I really liked about this video is how open-minded Dish was, understanding the different stories the chat told us. The differences between cultures. Like I used to understand that different cultures do things differently, but watching exactly how they differ from one another is very interesting. Each person is a different story, and each story is a different world. I really like how Genshin can give us a window towards another world in many senses of the phrase.
as a malaysian (malay) and a counsellor myself, I’ve experienced this in both ways. As a daughter, I felt like I couldn’t get through my mother. I was a rebel in a sense so we fought but it just never worked out. I want to stand my ground but most times it will end in verbal arguments. It might be an Asian thing where “your mother knows best, stop talking nonsense you are rebelling against me you are a bad daughter”. That’s what I thought. I wished someone advised her. As heartbreaking as it made me, for her to not listen to me as a daughter, and only for her to listen to others, it hurts. But if it works, why not. I’ll take it (i gave up). As a counsellor side, I have seen several clients, children that would share the same theme. How they wish their parents would listen. How they would give up and stay silent. Sometimes they want me to intervene. And theres also parents who would meet me for counselling. And they share their concerns about their children. How they want the best for them but they notice how distant their child is getting. Or how their behaviour changed (more agitated, or more nervous. A mother shared her child went through a panic attack and she felt guilty). And these parents need guidance. I don’t know where I’m going with this whole tangent but I feel like because of this cultural expectations, how they want their child to be this and that, it just doesn’t fare well for both the child and the parent. Sorry if I sound weird, English is not my first language 😞
Like you said about intervening in others parental conflict - usually it can do more harm than good, with one exception. Gaming's father (even whole family as you could see if you failed sneaky part) is oppressive. And thats something unrelated to culture, you'll find that in America, Europe, Asia... whole world. With oppressive parents you usually try to talk to them, multiple times, until you finally realize that nothing good comes from it. Here's how most conversations go : you tell them something, they gaslight you, then they tell you what you should do according to them. And if you dont agree with them, they openly critize/humiliate you every opportunity they got, often followed by grounding you/taking away your privileges. After few rounds of that you learn to just kinda go by whatever they want, while planning and counting days to your "grand escape". In that case all you want is to hear some words of encouragement, and for someone to stand in your corner, no matter what. Also at the point we meet Gaming, he already gave up on having normal relationship with his father - notice that he had no plans to ever go back to his dad. If not our intervention, then he'd probably live the rest of his life avoiding him. That's also the reason why he didnt mind us butting in his business, because at that point he had nothing to lose.
as people who live and grow in asia, mostly it was really connected to this quest,and we actually understood with both side. it also sometimes parents are so stubborn and head harded that they always things that they're right cause they're live longer than us. They always thing that some "job" that not able to provide us in long run, and what they wished for is we have happy life without concerning about money. and the only people that they want to hear is someone that they're respected.. thats why most of us want people to come and help. sadly its not work as easily as we think.. some parents are human and they have different personality example my mom finally let me do what i want after i get 24 yo... its also first time that i show very depressed behavior, and my body cannot handle more. I started breaking both mentally and Physically... She still keep apologizing till this day because her past behavior even I already forgive her. My dad also did the the same, but i already lost trust on him, since he almost killed me because i got 1 on math, i still carry the scars from the hitting that he done (gladly my mom leave him when i was 12)
I didn't know people were uncomfortable with this story quest. The only thing personally that gave me pause was paimon just randomly bringing up gamings family situation because i felt like there could be a less sudden way to move the story forward. Im someone who had a reconciliation with my parents as an adult so i was touched by everyone wanting to help gaming. It made me really like xianyun and gaming.
This quest somewhat hit close to home, I didn’t feel uncomfortable. More towards an understanding of what Ga Ming and his father went through but also conflicted emotions. Certain words hit close to home, especially as a first Generation and eldest child in my family. The expectations and pressures from my parents. My parents wanted me to be a teacher, doctor, layer, etc but were supportive yet not supportive of my love for the arts. Despite having now graduated after six years of university, I sometimes they say I should have studied to be nurse or in dental or something because I’m struggling to find a job in my field of study. Plus I’m now used as an example towards my younger siblings of things they should and shouldn’t do since I have through the whole experience. I understand they want what’s best for me, at the same time, they don’t realize constantly telling me that I should to so something else as well as me repeating times are not the same as they use be, its tiring. I want to succeed, I want to grow, but the words they keep repeating and the pressure feel like I’m being choked over and over again. Thankfully I have sat down with my parents, we had a heart to heart talk about it. I have thank one of siblings for that. I told the, I understand they want me to succeed but also that their constant words and pressure is not helping me. I’m glad they apologized to me and that we spoke.
this video literally was the best thing i couldve chosen to watch OH MY GODDDDD 😭😭😭😭😭😭 i would LOVE more sit down chats about how certain stories in genshin make you and your chat feel, genshin still has a long way to go and im so excited to see your thoughts and feelings on other (difficult or not) topics genshin brings up.
even though i related to gaming (i’m actually one of the filipinos in chat lol), i had your initial reaction to the quest. i’m super individualistic and i felt that it wasn’t anyone else’s place but gaming and his dad’s to fix their problems, so i thought it was super invasive for what were essentially strangers to butt into a very private matter. all that immediately changed the moment i heard yip tak’s concerns, because he reminded me so much of my own father. the fact that traveler and paimon and xianyun and zhongli cared enough for gaming that they stepped in and helped yip tak become more open-minded was so touching and sweet. i’m glad i was able to live vicariously through gaming, even if it was just for an hour.
I also felt uncomfortable during the earlier parts of the quest. But I think it stems from me having a very bad experience with outside family figures stepping in and just.... wasn't able to help. I grew up with the mindset of nothing can change my parents, absolutely nothing at all. But by the end of the quest, all I wanted was for the people around Gaming to succeed and help him, and for Gaming to reach that connection with his dad. It was a sort of catharsis and overwhelming feeling of gratefulness. I may not have been able to experience that, but I'm so glad that this friend of mine did. And that was all I wanted by the end.
This quest was hard for me. Being in a somewhat similar position but not seeing any progress even after getting the outside help. After 2 years of personal advancement and even buying my own house, nothing seems to resolve this communication blockade. All I can do is support the ones still around me and continue to build myself with the hope that eventually my stubborn parent realizes their mistake and changes their mind.
ngl i feel so dumb only focusing on rewards and consuming all the drama around it. To the point where I forgot I could enjoy games without rewards. The game is FREE and the story is FREE. Thank You dish Oddly enough, this video actually serves as a reminder for me. thats weird ah whatever THANK YOU
I am genuinely so glad that you covered this in some capacity. I feel like a lot of people forget that hobo is ultimately a company steeped in culture that's really different from most perspectives in more Western countries. But this lantern rite has honestly made me feel so seen in a way I haven't felt in a really, really long time (maybe never before) and it's so near and dear to my heart for that reason. Loved this quest, and hope that hoyo does more of this in future lantern rites.
All I know is that while living with my family, if someone tried to intervene in my situation like we did with Gaming's in the quest, I would be in more danger than I was before. That's why it made me uncomfortable.
I'm glad that Dish made this video; and the fact she mentioned about different cultures and how accepting she was towards this quest in regards to the fact that Asian culture can differ with Western culture (in this matter) in pursuing dreams vs. taking conventional ways with our careers. I'm Asian and my family is generally supportive of me doing my own thing, but due to many circumstances and a lot of them was about past and present social constructs and expectations, some can derived from many generations of sufferings from wars and poverty, the families are also very concerned of pursuing our dreams that are too niche or strayed from conventional ways, as in the point that our parents are genuinely worried of our well-being in the future, as some traditional restraints that can be cut-throat and, in a sense, can hold us back. They just wanted to prepare the easiest lives for us. So for me, it was NOT uncomfortable at all playing this quest when the group intervened Gaming's situation, as I actually have many relatives trying to care too much as well and have been trying to get balance from that 😅 It got much less now as my generation now adopted the Western way of freedom more and more, and absolutely now I have my own son I want to support him as much as he wants in the future, by getting into the stuff he likes and helps him, just like how Dish' parents did to her 😉
I think this quest once again highlights my biggest issue with Genshin as a whole, and I’ve had this issue since 2.8: Hiding important character development and stories behind time-limited event quests, rather than something that can be played at any time. They seriously need to bring back story quests for 4-Star characters, because Genshin’s reached a quality with storytelling in its characters that they can do much more with them other than glorified VNs that play it safe with the 4-star’s character development. (Note: Take this sentiment with a grain of salt. I have not played many of the newer hangout events so I don’t know if they’re better but at least having a definitive story to follow rather than 5-6 “routes” for 4-star characters would be spectacular.)
As someone with extremely complicated and unconventional relationships with both of my parents, I was hit pretty hard by this Lantern Rite quest and felt it was well written. Unfortunately my father is not the kind of person whose mind can be changed, but seeing a story about a partially mended parental relationship was comforting. Last year I had a family friend intervene between me and my father, and my initial reaction was very similar to yours Dish. But the result was undeniably good. I ended up seeing my father again after more than a decade and spent 10 hours sitting at a table having a civil conversation, even laughing a little and finding common ground. I've had closure on matters that were festering for years and feel all the better for it. Gaming's story was so satisfying to me as it felt so similar to my own
I have a very strange situation: I was close with my mum but not as much with my dad during when I was a teenager. I came out as transgender when I was 13 and my mum bought me my first binder. 10 years later she has completely reversed her views and rejected me. My dad stepped in when she was going off sometimes even though they’re divorced. My dad has come a long way in accepting me and despite being very heartbroken by my mum, he has stepped in and built the relationship that I needed
This quest and your video really show how important communication is, parents need to try to remember not to block out their kids. This story is a little off topic but when I was a kid I told my mum I had a boyfriend and instead of trying to talk to me about it she got mad. I never wanted to talk to her about boys again and because of that I did some silly things and started lying to her. Later on she talked to me about boy stuff and I was able to open up to her again. I guess everybody gets upset sometimes but it’s important to talk about it. I’m lucky to have such a good mum who let me make my own choices and will listen to me without judgement. I think a lot of parents don’t realise they are blocking out their kids because they believe they are doing what’s right, like my mum didn’t realise she blocked me out by getting mad instead of talking to me about it. I can’t imagine how hard it is for people who don’t have that, I think, like you said in the video, it would be so nice for those people to have someone help get their parents to see things from a different perspective, start that conversation and stop blocking out their kids. Sometimes someone just has to start the conversation.
I'm continually enjoying these video essays even though this one hit so deep. Thank you for having such meaningful, enlightening discussions that your community can bond over with. I feel like these games are truly a turning point in history where they're starting to be more than just a fun past-time thing, they're bringing people together and inspiring those who need comfort and motivation to improve their lives in one way or another, or simply just learn another lesson that will bring a whole new understanding. Ugh, I could go on forever but consider me moved and I'm so looking forward to another! 🌸
I would have loved to be part of that chat. It'll be like therapy just to share those stories. I like the difference that Xianyun whose not even the blood parent of Shenhe and Ganyu is seen as the better parent than the blood related one as Gaming's father. I also like the symbolism of the kites, of the parent letting their kids soar but still holds onto the string if they need support from family.
I had the same reaction as you even though I had a simmilar experience to Gaming. I think what caused it was that my parents have always placed a lot of importance in keeping up appearances, and if someone were to interfere in what they consider "private family affairs" it would tick them off instantly. To be honest, I don't think your reaction was wrong, I mean it's only natural to interpret things from your own perspective and it's also what makes life interesting. I really hope I can catch a stream of yours sometime!
Late to the party but I still want to chime in to the community and also hopefully boost the algorithm so more people can watch this masterpiece Watching the whole video made me teared up a bit because it feels so good to be seen. As an Indonesian male and firstborn, you were totally right when you said that some people wished this gaming quest to happen in their life. I also really like this community because, like this video, chat is soo raw and unfiltered. A literal safe space filled with empathy and compassion. Honestly when I watch Daily Dish video I'd love to zoom in just the chat because it feels good to laugh together while reading others experience. So thank you for the community dish, I hope we can all exercise our empathy and compassion muscle especially in this community. Also thank you chat for sharing your experience!! Also (2), more video like this please!!
This story made me feel so much 😭 he reminds me of my sisters and even me, like I can see so many parts of all of us in him. I understand Yip Yak wanted the best for him, but he did it in such a bad way his son ran away because of pressure and aspirations he knew he could make happen if he just tried hard enough. The last part of the cutscene made me hurt so happily because I was so happy for this character being able to make a relationship with his father ☺️💜
- watching this right after the Lantern Rite 2024 VOD :3 - I loooove the insight of this video :'D better empathy ftw - The bittersweet comments of people relating to this so hard makes me warm ;u; I appreciate the bond that this game, story and this particular video has brought together. Sending love aaaaa
Hi! I was the who recommended to you the RednasYo's video! :D I want to say more about my opinion on this whole thing: (Already sorry in advance, I just a little much in english and will be relying a lot on google translation, not a good idea ik) So, first of all: I would say about the thing parents like Yip Tak not being exclusive for Asia (because I feel like a lot of people it's thinking like that), but since Dish say it and thank god her community know that too, I'm just gonna put the timestamp here 25:10. So, let's start a long ass text that it's just my vision on the whole quest :D I'm from Brazil, the other side of the world, and I feel like a lot of parents here also have a similiar mindset as Yip Tak, nowadays it's getting a little bit better, but still not a lot. Art still not see like a really job and of course like every other place in the world, it's hard to be a artist, because of that A LOT of parents just don't support their kids on this path, but that doesn't mean they don't care about them. Yip Tak, it's exactly that parent. In my personal view, he prefer to have 100% sure that Gaming will have enough money for his whole life, rather than his happiness and try other options, yk like parents wants their kids to be a doctor bc pays a lot? Yeah, exactly like that. But never in one second I saw him like really ONLY wanted Gaming to continue the family business, of course he wanted, but for me he focused way more on the assurance that his son will have enough to live a good life rather than continuing the family's business. Which, being honest? It's great, If I have to choose between a parent who just want me to continue the family business because of the legacy or name, or a parent who wants me to continue the family business because it's sure that I will have enough money to have a good life, I would prefer the last choose (because for me it will prove that they care more about my well-being than the family image). But, still, it would be better if the parent just support their kid in what they want to do. Something, it's that I think some people miss it is that right after Yip make the offer to comeback to Gaming, he says "Dad really has changed a lot. He would have never said these things to me before", which means: Yip never in the past would have even considered letting Gaming do what he wants, but now by the end of the day, he did let him, he just say straight up that he didn't support him and then give a offer to him that Gaming CAN refuse, which in the past would never have happened. I think one of the things that maked his change his mind off-screen, it's definitely the feeling of guilty and longing that his son left. Guilty because it was his fault that Gaming run away, and longing because he miss his son, that definitely would be a feeling that would make the parent that care for their children, think about what happened, but of course as closed-mind and proud a lot of them are, Yip Tak also didn't change 100%, yet. But still, the fact that he changed in some way really knocked my head, make me really happy :). Before talking about the final I want to add little things about little details: 1. Yip Tak saying to Gaming to talk more to Mr. Zhongli (heck it's strange to call him that). It feels more to me that he was specifically talking about asking more about tea to zhongli, rather than knowledge itself. It make me sad ngl. 2. About 10:42, it wasn't our fault. Paimon trying to put Gaming in a good light was something good, trying to proof that his son IT'S doing a good job alone by himself, but with how Yip Tak was, he really had to say "Seems like you've made some sort of name for youself, *at least*". It's the same feeling like a kid who work hard to get 10 on a test go to their parent to show the note and they say "You did the bare minimum", it's not the kid fault, neither of the teacher if they try to prove to the parents that their kid it's working hard, it's the parent fault for being closed-mind and harsh on that. 3. About Paimon telling Gaming's family situation, I can understand you. I also feel it a little bit uncomfortable in the beginning but since it was just Ganyu, Shenhe and Xianyun I though it was okay, because these three are literally the only ones that I would trust to keep such a secret and try to help on everything without being totally harsh and directly debating with his dad, because in a situation like that, debating directly saying "you're wrong" or "you're a bad parent" it's not going to solve the problem. Heck, even saying "You should support you kid" wouldn't work because in the father mindset he thinks: "How can I support my child if what they are trying to do it's not something that it's garented will have success?" - This next detail I recommend reading after I talked about the cutscene and the scene after and about intervene in situations like this. Before the penultimate paragraph (the one with the heart), because, idk, In my opinion would be better. If you want to read now go for it, it's just what I think I would do. But you're the reader! Do it as you please. - 4. After the cutscene when Yip Tak ask Gaming if he's really taking doing Wushou Dance seriously and Gaming confirm, Gaming say that he knows it will be difficult, but then Yip intervene saying "Then it doesn't matter" and you can see the sad face in Gahming. In my perspective, it's because since Yip never really support him, Gaming saw this line as his father just saying "Your dream doesn't matter", or something among those lines. And I just LOVE how he sees how he didn't worded correctly and correct himself, making sure Gaming known that no matter if the path may be difficult, if it's what he son wants, he has to go for it. (continue on the answers! :D lmao blame yt)
NOW, the final part (I actually have more but I have already say to much): Yip Tak change + Everyone getting involved in this situation: As you say, change doesn't happen for one day to another, it took Gaming running away; years after their separate; listen from other people that he's doing good; listen from his friends that he's great at what he does; a talk with another adult who can understand both perspective, It took MANY things to Yip Tak change his mind and of course the final stroke was: Seeing his son, that he didn't support at the beginning, doing what he's the best at. Seeing his son being cheered by the whole Liyue, seeing his son having the time of his life doing Wushou Dance, seeing him, above the top of that statue, smiling looking proud and accomplished by himself. His talk with Gaming after everything really it's something that many wish to have, because there are some parents that even after everthing I just said, will still not going to support their kid and don't ask me why because these exactly type of parents that I really can't understand. Yip Tak finally supporting his son and calling him "son", it's something so strong and wisheful for many people, because that just not only mean his father finally support him, it means that he sees what he's son it's doing, that the person who did that amazing performance it's Gaming, it's his son and his proud of it. Having people intervening in a situation like that it's so great for so many kids, teenagers and even adults, because a lot of them are scared or have giving up trying to talk with them parents. I think mostly teenagers decided to run away or get out of home so early after turning 18y old, because they just give up on trying to convince their parents or are afraid to talk to them, because if a conversation between a adult trying to change the mindset of their parents who also a adult it's already hard and a lot of times will just not grown results, imagine a teen who is seeing for most people in society just like a noisy human being who just like to complain about everything? It's gonna be even more hard and that's also why so many people are afraid to even try to talk to their parents, because they are afraid that they will hear just harshly words and nothing will change. This is just one occasion, that are so many things that changes from family to family, parent to parent, kid to kid. Humans are different, so it will be the parents reactions towards theirs kids trying to persuade a hard dream. Some parents are like Yip Tak and just want to be sure that the kid it's gonna be able to have money to live by themself; Some just care about the name of the family and how the legacy would be broken if they kids do another thing; others, just don't care at all about their kids dreams and want them to be something else because yes; some parents wants their kids to be something that they themselves haved wished they are when they are kids; others, just don't think that the dream of they children are valid; others, don't even will support they child on anything, maybe because, they don't even like them; others, will stop supporting they children on anything after their children start chasing they dream, and maybe, even stop seeing them as the human that they gave life to it. A simple talk about wanted to chase yours dreams can change so many things, that it's why so many people prefer to a third party to talk to their parents about it, rather them themselves try to talk with them. The fear it's just one thing that make the kids prefer someone else to try to talk to their parents, a lot of them, have just given up. Gaming say it earlier, Yip Tak say it in the conversation with Zhongli, Gaming say it in the bridge, "This conflict between us has been going on for a long time", so just imagine: how many times have Gaming try to change his dad's mind? How many times that he at least try to talk about it and just ended in another argument? He even say, "I'm not sure talking it's enough" because he have already try it, and it took all the others factors that I have say it earlier for the conversation between them at least get into something. Having someone talk with your parent about your feelings and what you want to achieve, it's way more easy exactly because you wouldn't have to hear such hard words, wouldn't get emotional, wouldn't be afraid to see your parent's disappointed expressions, because all this factors change how you continue to talk about it, a third party, will react different to all of that, that's why it's better someone to intervene. Having someone else to tell your parents about your dreams, how this is what you want to do, how you're working hard, how some people even see your accomplishments, how you're happy making this, how if you have yours parents support would just make it their kid work even more hard, it's way more easier, because then you wouldn't have to hear everything you just say it being demolished by a "You wouldn't have do to all this, If you had done what I told you to do". (Now you can read the last detail) First of all, thank you, Dish. This a important topic and I'm happy that someone make a whole video talking about it, this really means a lot, thank you, really. I will say though, it was a coward move make such a good speech with the cutscene in the background, do you want me to cry again? 😭 I'm jokinghsjshs ly 💗. I'm sorry for any grammar mistakes and If you see any "Gahming" just ignore, I have to put a H so the translator wouldn't translate to game ☠️. In any case, if you read until here thank you so much! If you didn't it's alright. I don't even know if you, Dish, will have the time to read everything, so yeah. Sorry for the huge ass text lol, I'm not even sure if youtube will allowed this huge ass text. Let's see! ;) (It didn't LMAO)
For me, my experience with this endeavor...was a quiet emotional feel, and I didn't always have a close relationship with my parents. I'm 19.5 now, I can say that I started to understand my father a lot at the time one of the people in the chat said that parents are human too, my father has anger issues and he was angry with me too and it was very difficult to convince him too which kept me alive emotionally, she is caring Very and I remember that my first goal as a child was just to make my father proud, like with the games here to see this embarrassment and also his father proud at the end, it kind of gave me flashbacks now I can say that my relationship with my father is kind of better, since I can I understand him better and I know that he wants the best for me and sees that the path to success is different from mine but he started supporting me even when he didn't really agree by the way this really means a lot and he also started paying attention to his words especially when he's kind of angry or upset But I have to say that having such a caring mother and a father who really cares but doesn't show it and is kind of strict has made me a better person like the balance here but it would be healthier if it came from the same person and really thank you for this vid it made my day and reminded me of ... things that is real important to me ( my fav female youtuber ) ^^
I thought your breakdown was done amazingly, and as i read through a lot of these comments it opened my eyes to a lot of different perspectives from different cultures and how different people would appreciate either a figure like zhongli or xinyun to step in on behalf of them to maybe help reach an understanding with their parents and get them to understand where their kid is coming from and how they feel. It’s important to realize that we are all human and our experiences shape us in different ways and we are never truly done growing and learning about ourselves and others. There is no handbook for parenting and most of us won’t know what that is like for some time and for some they may never know what being a parent is like as a fear of not being able to break those toxic cycles. For me personally i also initially felt that it was not only strange and uncomfortable for Paimon to share information that was given to us in confidence but to make a plan with others to force a reconciliation. I definitely saw where the story was trying to go and the direction they wanted to take with the idea of family and reunion especially given the cultural aspect of things. I do feel like a lot of the discomfort stems from that forced feeling where it was obvious that we as the traveler were trying to get a conversation between Gaming and his Father started. While different, and in my personal opinion probably not the best way to go about things, I thought a lot of that discomfort started dissipating as i noticed and it was shown how much support Gaming still had from his friends and people who were willing to speak in favor of his character. Which even if Gaming and his father hadn’t resolved things it would’ve still made for a good story about found family and learning that blood relatives sometimes won’t support you as much as the people you meet in life and how that’s still okay. Everyone’s family doesn’t look the same or hold the same ideologies. In my experience as a white westerner who has had a strained relationship with both of my parents for quite some time, this setup would’ve actually made me extremely uncomfortable. I do feel as though there are a lot of communication problems and difficulties understanding each other when it comes to my own parents and at least in my experience my parents were not open to criticism or different points of views when it came to how they should go about raising my siblings and i and the choices they felt we should be making. Whether it came from another adult family member, their own parents, or an outside adult my parents definitely saw it as a critique of their parenting skills and would often take it to heart and would lash out at either us or burn bridges with others to preserve their own feelings and ideals. So to me while the thought was nice i think it’s important to realize that sometimes there is a good reason as to why people may not want to talk to their parents and it’s not always right for others to insert themselves into those situations especially not really knowing the full extent or context of the situation, and it’s also not anyone’s place (again in my opinion) to decide whether or not you should have your parents in your life for whatever reason and no one is obligated to give one. It was nice Gaming and his father reconciled but i also think it’s important to understand this really could’ve gone many ways and a lot of them wouldn’t have been as good even if the intention was pure and coming from a place of care for a friend. I am really glad to see genshin expand on the topic of family and strained relationships as it is something a lot of people have experienced at some time in their lives and i’m glad i was able to gain insight and understanding of other people and other culture’s values and family dynamics.
To me, I was so aware as a kid that my parent and I needed outside help, but I was also terrified of change. I wondered, "would it come off as offensive?" if I had asked for help in any way. I grew up with silent treatment, so I wondered if asking for it was actually worth it. As if I spoke up, it would lead to an argument. Personally, this quest made me reflect and admittedly, I did cry. Sometimes I wish I had gotten outside help from a found-family. Sometimes, I still do. It really got to me during lantern rite that familial issues still have a hope of being resolved, and that as long as these confrontations go on, you are still connected by blood. I grew up in the UK, so I cannot speak for Asian households, but this is my personal experience. In short, little me longs for outside help to come in and give advice to my parents, but I also knew that no one else saw the issues except me.
What a beautiful reflection! Admittedly I clicked through most of this quest until the point they started helping Gaming, so I missed a lot of the details leading up to the outcome/happy ending (which still made me tear up regardless though). This was really nice to watch to see what I had missed that wasn't a literal recap. Your thoughts were insightful and well presented. I'd love to see more of these [as they naturally arise]! Genshin really hits a lot of things that don't get presented in other media that I think are very important (one that comes to mind is the Mondtsadt event where we heard a lot of Collei's and Sucrose's inner monologue about being awkward and afraid to try to be friends). Never truer words than "media shifts culture", and I think Genshin is doing some good in that realm.
This quest unexpected make me cry and after finishing the quest I stare in nowhere and think about life.... Also I wish I can be like Ga-ming that brave enough to try again to talk to his parents in sensitive topic even he already experience conflict in the first place... I like this kind of video , Thank you Ms. Dish
I have always enjoyed Lantern Rite quests, but this recent Lantern Rite quest was really beautiful and struck a cord in me as an Asian. I also come from a sort of privileged background (by Asian standards) because my parents never pressured me to be this and that. What matters to them is that my job gives me food on the table and a roof above my head and that I could always come home to them when I need help. I love that Dish shared her experience with the Lantern Rite. It wasn't just a react andy kind of video. I was present when she streamed the lantern rite but I didn't get to finish stream. I could see that it was also a learning experience for her and for some in chat who probably didn't come from this culture. Thank you for sharing your experience with the quest, Dish and to chat as well.
Accidentally come across this video of yours, miss dish... I come from an Asian family, and i don't have such understanding and empathic parents. We actually have had a lot of conflicts but i can't share this with my college friends (my mom told me this because it would affect family reputation). So when I randomly watched this video, I didn't know that I would be so interested that I went through the whole thing in 30 minutes... Family matters are something that has become my vulnerable spot for me. I think it would be so good if I could share this to a know-how-to-deal-with-things friend/ person (idk the word lol English is my second language). However, in reality, it's actually very different and I find it so difficult to talk about this topic to anyone other than family members that I'm closest to (mostly my older sis who is studying abroad and sometimes my lil bro who is more mature than me). Therefore, this video is very eye-opening for me because I wouldn't know that from your perspective, people from outside help solving a family issue is considered intervening others' private matters. That's my personal experience. Anyway, I love this video that you made so much, and you're such a wonderful person miss dish. Empathy is truly powerful! And I can never imagine that we can learn so much from a video game like this haha... Keep on making meaningful contents, I'm rooting for u !
So appreciate learning about other's perspectives on stuff like this. It's incredible that a game can bring people together to talk about topics that might not be discussed otherwise. I feel like my world is becoming bigger and we all aren't that different, we're just raised in different standards and normals! Thank you!!
Mexican born in US here and I had strong negative feelings toward my dad from the time of my parents divorce and I had that for decades just slowly festering in my feelings until my mom decided to intervene this past year and basically made me talk to him. He honestly had no idea I had these feelings because I guess I hid it so well and it was thanks to her we started to open up those channels of communication. I felt the same as you did at the beginning and was gonna get back at my mom but I'm glad now because I was finally able to let go of a lot of resentment I was holding.
as a south asian (2nd gen canadian) this quest was so touching; although i have support from my parents in regards to my career aspirations (probably cuz of them being 1st gen and growing up in the west), with other things i feel like i can never get through to them and theyd never listen to me and i always wish someone would come in and defend me and help change their minds - watching this happen for gaming was so cathartic i sobbed throughout the cutscene of his performance as well as through some of their discussion LMAO i really appreciate u for being so open minded as well as chat that day for sharing their stories - its so important to recognize how many different lenses things like these can be viewed through, youve made suchhhh an important video dish and i thank u a million times over for it :D
As someone who struggles to find the correct words to use when expressing my thoughts/feelings, it was such a good experience not only playing that quest but also watching this video and having someone like you provide deeper insight and perspectives. Hearing you speak about your’s and others’ experiences brought out feelings in me about my parents and my life that I couldn’t quite realize until now (good feelings of course lol). I really do hope for similar vids in the future! Thank you! 🫶🏼
great video! you trying to see it from this perspective and discussing it here may help others understand it better too~ because yeah, as someone who comes from a culture which is very similar to the one in the game here, my experience was very different than some other reactions i saw, but i get it :')
I'm not so present in your streams (because I live in Europe so time wise it's kind of imposible for me ) but I watch VODs or videos of you on YT and let me tell you , your community is so green flag and so warm and it feels so safe to be in . Also I just love your insight on this matter and you are a pure example of if you open your eyes and you listen to people around you you can change opinions on things . I almost cried by the end of the video
gaming is by far the most relatable character for me. being a chinese person especially from a competitive society like hong kong, even if my parents weren't exactly the most stereotypically strict asian parents, i've seen others with parents basically like yip tak, except they're more concerned about the future of their children rather than their safety (since reality doesn't require people to kill monsters lmao). of course, that doesn't mean they don't love their children, they just do it in a different way. it also doesn't help that most of asia is very traditional and are not as progressive as most western cultures, meaning they prioritize success over everything else, including mental health. call me a coward, but i left hong kong to study abroad in new zealand due to the pressure, and the culture shock was massive. it's the same as someone else said in the comments- children not having bright careers with stable income reflects badly on their parenting, for eldest sons like me especially. all in all, this lantern rite blew my mind and my god i was happy when they announced a character who speaks cantonese, but the story just took it above and beyond. yip ga ming got the 5* treatment. needless to say i was ugly crying at the ending cinematic lmao
dish your introspective videos that discuss characters (like this gaming video and your baizhu one) and what they mean to people are my favorite. you have a true gift when it comes to connecting us to the character, and then back to each other. you take away the moral lessons and empathy from stories, and then redistribute it to us so that we can take with us in our own lives. thank you for your service
Thank you so much Dish. I'm definitely on the side of playing this quest with tears wishing Zhongli or literally anyone else could talk to my parents on my behave. It was a wonderful quest and I'm so glad you took the time to document this experience that I can go back and remember how I felt while playing this quest and keep hoping for a brighter future. Thank you again!
One of my favorite tropes in movies is overbearing parents on teenaged to young adult kid, and then the more care free life loving aunt or uncle comes to stay with the family for a while, and helps the kid not only understand that the parents are doing what they are doing out of love and care, but also shows the parents they need to loosen up and see that the kid is not just their little clone to mold how they will, but a living, breathing, independent person with their own dreams and aspirations. Anyways, absolutely loved this Lantern Rite, Liyue ON TOP, building Gaming as we speak.
Thanks for uploading this Miss Dish. It's nice to see other perspectives on this quest and that it gave people hope and helped them feel seen. The parental disconnect in my family comes more from a cycle of abuse than a difference in world views. Mediators have been sought out but conversations have only ever devolved into victimhood contests and denial of past wrongdoing. That combined with years of substance abuse left me seeing this quest as only wishful fantasy. But it was very touching. I think you're right in saying the desire to impress your parents doesn't go away as an adult. And seeing Gaming's pain in his inability to realize that desire was all too real.
I really connected with gaming, my parents are pretty supportive but I’m having trouble scraping together the courage to really go after my dream career and seeing gaming working towards the job he loves and making it work was powerful for me
Thank you for sharing as well. As an asian, we also did not understand at first why many people took offense with the quest when we love it so much, so its nice to hear the other perspective. At the end of this quest, i just cried a lot. I missed my dad so much
Genshin's story has always been touching in the family aspect from the start to finish. For this year lantern right, I find it to be really heartwarming, but I also do admit that I have been uncomfortable in the mid of the story when Xianyun want to help gaming in his family matter. But the more I think about it, the more I can feel related to Gaming. I won't really share my personal experience here, but all I can say is that I do also hope to have people like Xianyun in my life. Thanks to Dish for making a video of this. It opens to a bigger realization when it comes to different family culture. While it's true that not all Asian family are like that, it's also true that Asian have this tendency to prioritize family than individuality.
I think my relationship with my parents is quite complicated. In the past, my mum did something that was against my trust completely and what I felt as betrayal was her act of love and it took a long time for me to reconcile that and understand fully why she did what she did. I don’t know if I could forgive her for that but yeah. In terms of supportiveness, I feel like I thought my parents were like Ga Ming’s dad at the beginning when I was in high school. I thought they just wanted me to do what all the other kids my age were doing but from their minds they thought they were being supportive. My parents haven’t discouraged me but it felt like because I’m Asian and we’re so closed off from each other and don’t really communicate our feelings openly, we had a lot of misunderstandings between us that have mostly settled down now but things can still be awkward at times.
hi ms dish! i've never commented before but i just wanted to say how beautifully well put together and well spoken this video is. im a white american but i have experienced similar family tensions to gaming's and it means so much to have an outside voice believing in and defending you, like it means the entire world. the quest really choked me up, but i didn't really think too much deeper about it until watching this video. it's so interesting to see how different everyone's interpretations of it was based on their own relationships and experiences. i found your perspective super interesting as it wasn't something that i'd initially think about based on my own experiences, and the lovely chat member who said that we are all complex characters really hit home that no story is completely black and white, not from the writers, nor the viewers. your genuine curiosity to learn other's point of view made me feel all warm inside and honestly inspired me to really try to understand people's hearts even more authentically :) anyways i really loved the video and happy lantern right everyone!!
ive experienced every lantern rite , but this one was very special to me, i have a simular issue with my parents in where their expectations of me are different from what i want, and im afraid that branching away from what they want will dissapoint them, but this quest gave me hope that i one day can be supported by my parents for the path i choose, to prove them that i can be great by following the path that makes me happoest, i know this comment is late by like a week but i wanted to share how much i connected with a story quest like this one, and how hopeful it made me of my own future relationship with my own parents, happy lantern rite!
as someone whose initial reaction too on this quest is uncomfort and begging paimon not to pry even further by tellling Gaming's personal conflict to other people, learning how other people who is in the same dilemma as Gaming wants to somehow receive some help from a third person is so mind opening to me. my first memorable lantern rite indeed!
As a person in a similar situation as Gaming, but from a western background, I had the same reaction as you. Definitely felt like Paimon and us were butting into the situation, and in turn felt very uncomfortable and almost.. targeted? However, I did end up enjoying this quest once I stopped relating it to my situation, as obviously the parent-child culture here was being represented in a completely different way than I experienced. Overall, great quest, and absolutely the best lantern rite!!
I'm someone who never got to grow up with my father around, as he passed away when I was 1 years old. Seeing Gaming and his dad trying to reconcile, and the cutscene where his dad saw his performance, always makes me emotional. Stories about children and their compassionate fathers who might just not find it very easy to communicate their feelings, always make me emotional, and I tend to live vicariously(?) through the children in the stories, because I wish that I had the opportunity to be with my dad for longer. Actually cried most of the later half of this video lmfao
i was very emotional and teared up last minutes of the video too. we actually share the same experience, you're never alone know that :) My father passed away kind of naturally when i'm 7-9 years old. I had such a supportive and loving mom. It was also so hard for her; as she was also left alone but thanks to her and her support i never felt the emptiness in my heart. Seeing father and child relationships touches me in some way but i don't know what that feeling is. Maybe if i'll ever be a dad, i can give my non-existing child the love they deserve even tho i wasn't able to experience this... just wanted to share my side of the story since i saw u sharing similar story with me and it made me sad u feeling upset.
@@emranao I've mostly moved on by now. My father passed through taking his own life, so I tend to get triggered when I see funerals of any kind, dedicated to fatherly characters. But I have been attending therapy for a long time, and have gotten significantly better. Seeing father-child relationships makes me emotional because I unfortunately never got to make any memories with my father, but I definitely handle my emotions related to dads much better as of recently. My mother has been amazing throughout my life, and my older brother has been great as well, so I grew up in a safe familial situation. Just took until recently to come to terms with the fact I will never get to experience having a bond with my dad. I'm glad you had a great mother as well, and if you ever become a parent, I'm sure you'll be great
When I first watched this video, I had no idea what to say. I didn't even realize people didn't like/were uncomfortable with this quest because I loved it so much. But I got a chance to think about it on another post on HoyoLab, so I'll copy-paste what I said there. I don't think the takeaway was supposed to be "meddle in other people's affairs because it's the right thing to do!" Out of all the plans, the only thing that really worked was getting Yip Tak to meet Zhongli and that was unplanned. Everything else was largely unsuccessful and transparent, and Yip Tak's change of heart could be considered independent of the intended meddling altogether. I personally am in a similar situation to Ga Ming (but without the success) so I'm very attached to his story quest. But it's not just the "unrealistic" ending or the comedy of the supporting cast that make me like it. It's the emotions between Yip Tak and Ga Ming, Xianyun and Shenhe, Zhongli and Xiao, of Parent and Child. Many parent-child conflicts are born out of poor communication and will die unresolved with broken relationships. But Ga Ming and Yip Tak's wasn't broken, not yet. Ga Ming loves his dad and wants to have a relationship with him, he just lost hope that he could. Lots of people resonate with that exact feeling. And for those people, I believe our takeaway was in the hope of their resolution. That our parents DO understand us, they're just too afraid for us, and when they can overcome that fear the people we love will be ready to rejoin our lives. It's not for everyone and it's not supposed to be, and that's okay.
I hope you'll see this though I know chances are slim, but I do really appreciate you delving even deeper into what this quest had you process in its Own video separate from the lantern rite playthrough. & yes, I glad to say you really have cultivated a respectful community
I went through the same process, I felt so uncomfortable at first and by halfway through I was crying my heart out especially the cutscene and the hug 🥺 I was never closed with my dad, he never believed in my passion for art. He passed away 8 years ago, I didn't thgouht about him for so long until this quest.. I am a pretty big artist on Instagram now! It made me wonder if he would be proud.. This lantern rite really invoke such deep and complex conversion. Thank you for talking about it, we need more of those discussions
Thank you for the great video. As someone who isn't really into the quest, i hope there is another perspective of me that can be seen by dish and anyone else. As for me, the quest is well-written, touching, and ofc it's good to see Gaming and his father get the harmony together. However, when i compared it with my own experiences, it couldn't feel the same way. As an Asian, my parents (like others) do not have a term of "my child has its own dream" or any kind of thing like that. And yes, i once shared the same struggle where i tried to get my parents to understand me. tbh it's not ideal like in the story. It's important to realise whether the parents want their child to follow their words becuz of "what's best for the child" or the parent just can't handle the idea of "she/he is out of my control". Some parents can not stand for their kids having their own lives, having their own things that may be better than them. Since they r too over about themselves, they dont see their kids as an individual, but something to fulfill their needs and follow whatever they say. I believe parental conflict can only happen when both parties see the problem and wanna fix it together, like Gaming and his father, and they just need a push to get things work (like Traveler, Paimon, RC, and Zhongli). If family is such a toxic place, its better to just cut them off and leave, since that may be the best way to protect yourself.
Me realize even if Zhongli actually showed up, they wouldnt listen to any single words he say and just told him to leave lmao well, i chose to leave with Zhongli btw
i really appreaciate this conversation and i wanted to weigh in as well! i personally initially also disliked the quest, and it was also stemming form my own experience: i am also from a more eastern culture and have an estranged relationship with my family. i was always a high achiever and trying to please them, but "perfect" was seen as a default, and anything even slightly less as a tremendous failure. growing up, i, too, wished there was someone who could just tell them that they are being unreasonable - but, to make matters worse, people were doing that! i was your typical straight-A's goody-two-shoes kid, so there were many adults/authority figures that would constantly tell my family how proud they should be of me and my accomplishments, yet it was almost as if they (my family) would take those "compliments" as praises about themselves and their parenting, not even hearing the crux. it got to a point where i realized nothing i do or anyone says would ever change their mind. i wish this story had a happier ending, but unfortunately, my family is still estranged and unwilling to listen to my grievances about the past or present. however!! what i really want to say is that my mind about the quest changed when i realized that ga ming's situation is what i wished could've happened to me! while doing the quest, i was a bit stuck in my own bitterness, but seeing it from this point of view made me really happy because i got to see a reality (albeit fictional lol but still stemming from the real world) that these things *could* actually change some parent's mind! and how wonderful and hopeful that is! I really hope that more kids who are struggling with this get to experience this shift. ❤
@dish, thanks so much for this video. It’s beautiful to see someone open their heart to understand and carry the stories of others. Your commentary actually made me laugh a bit because I realized I had the same reaction in reverse to your podcast with your dad from a few years back. I was amazed that someone could actually have such a good relationship with their parents and I actually cried a few times listening to how supportive and encouraging your dad was in those episodes… I couldn’t imagine my own parents trusting in my decisions or truly being proud of me at any point in my life. I remember telling my husband how shocked I was that this kind of family could exist and how encouraging it was to see someone bloom into an adult who’s unapologetically happy, free, empathetic, and secure in their beliefs. It gave me hope that the standards we were setting for our own little family were really going to be fruitful and that we wouldn’t ever recreate the deep brokenness we were both raised in. I related so much to this quest and I loved that it ended with reconciliation, even though that’s sadly so rare these days. Thank you for making the space for us to share our stories and to consider the differences among all of us. ❤
if i ever has to associate myself with the part of any one genshin youtube that would be dish because she values small and intricate details more than just spiral abyss and gacha, her account feels warm and welcoming and validating, I'm happy for you dish :)
The metaphor of children being kites that need distance to properly fly reminds me a lot of a comment my mom made: children are like birds, and when you hold them back, you're clipping their wings so they can no longer fly. I've always been by my mom's side, and am likely one of the only kids she has that will actively maintain contact with her, because her parenting style changed so much over the years. Initially, I was raised to be sheltered; couldn't attend sleepovers, couldn't be out too late, and always had to keep an eye on my younger brother so I rarely left the house. At this time, she was emotionally closed off and couldn't understand why I was such an emotional kid (I'm starting to suspect that I''ve had undiagnosed ADHD and boy has rejection sensitivity always kicked my ass). I'm 21 now and going through that quest was a rush of emotions, and it made me reflect a lot on seeing that own change within my mom (being stubborn at first, but gradually warming up and accepting change). It was a similar response to completing Act 5 of Fontaine's Archon Quest- incredibly emotional, but sweet. It's definitely a lot to process, but I'm glad Hoyo is moving in this direction and tackling more emotional narratives, because they've been executed so well. It makes me excited to see what future storylines have in store for us as audience members, and what more they might tackle with the characters we encounter next.
Idk why this quest felt so emotional for me considering my family situation is pretty good. Of course we are humans and we make mistakes, but I think I have a great relationship with my parents. It really made me feel weird that I like wanted to cry after the quest because of the relatability. I don't really know why I felt like crying. I can relate to having someone say something to my parents who sees something they don't see. I've appreciated some people like saying things to parents. I'm a very artistic person who just wants to do what I was meant to do! So when other people believe in me it means a lot. Like I know there's a plan for my life, and sometimes I feel like my parents don't see what I'm meant to do. I'm so thankful to God that my parents have raised me with so much love, but my parents are not perfect. Also seeing Shenhe looking at the father and his daughter is such a good detail! Genuinely, I loved this quest so much, and I think it's my favorite lantern Rite quest!
Thank you so much for making this video. I cried a lot during this Lantern Rite and I did actually cry in the middle of your video as you shared what your viewers said and also how your thoughts changed. I'm Filipino American and Yip Tak said near similar things to what my parents have said to me and my siblings. It wasn't about taking over a family business, but about going into a field that they approved of because they wanted to make sure that we would be able to support ourselves in the future, but they didn't think about the things that we loved and were passionate about. We didn't have any older parental or authority figure step in for us. My older sister had to do it all herself and the actions that she took make our parents understand how much we wanted to be able to do our own thing and they came to accept it. Not the exact same thing that GaMing went through, but mine and my siblings' relationship with our parents improved greatly after that. Thank you so much for taking the time to talk with your viewers and hearing out their stories to understand a side that you're not familiar with. Cultural differences are huge and it's so easy to sit down and listen and learn. I also appreciated your perspective because I am well aware of it too since I have plenty of friends that would find the situation in this story different and a bit weird because they're not of my culture or other cultures / families that go through similar things.
Definitely, its heartfelt and it hits real close to home. Both of my parents are from Guadalajara, MX and their beliefs were work with your body and not your mind. it took a lot of "discussions" to break that kind of thinking.
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best lantern rite ever?
i liked last years more (i've only been playing for one year)
best lantern rite ever!
hi.
This one was very emotional but I think the best one in my opinion was the first lantern rite
no but this one was really well made, as all of them are 😁
As an Asian myself, the unrealistic part of this quest is actually Gaming and his father having a conversation at all about the issue. At least in my family, things will just get swiped under the rug, never to be discussed ever again.
same here
I think that's the point of this story, making a conversation and trying to communicate with your parents instead of leaving the issue unresolved.
@@pizzajaz_Yep. A lot of traditional families never talk about things overtly, and would rather just make it a gossip when the target isn't around.This has to stop.
my dad just buys me food as apology and we sweep it under the rug 😭
@@vashitae Ayo, same lol. But it's a good thing to find some time to really talk things out.
All you need is Zhongli to talk to you parents
All it takes for parents to understand their children is to have literal Gods on your side.
@@Wolvie12100gods on your side 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
The parental relationships in Chinese culture (from the perspective of me, a chinese person) is one that is more closed off. Parents that are so forward and stubborn with what they want for their children, and any change in that persute is not welcomed easily. Success if a very important part of the culture. It's the fear that comes from failure, not only of the dreams of the child but also the failure of the parent to bring that child to success. Gaming is a relatable character since there is a sense of being tied down from what he really wants to do. Zhongli's words to Gaming's father really hit because many chinese kids (or really anyone with these kinds of parents) see others with that freedom, and how the set path made for them has restricted their growth as a person and it really hurts as that kid really wants to live up to the expectations laid out but also would like to cut off that binding rope.
That's just from my point of view though. me and my friends talk about this a lot, actually.
really appreciate you sharing ❣
This has also been my experience as a kid of Chinese descent, though my parents are more loose. Their concerns are more along the lines of Yip Tak. I wasn't totally comfortable with how we went about the plan of the quest to help him, but I can also relate highly to Xianyun's desire to help.
I agree coming from Chinese descent as well. My parents are chill however my grandparents have high expectations for me to follow the tradition for example marrying a Chinese man while my parents are okay with me dating another ethnicity that is still Asian. I get a lot of criticism from my grandparents more than my actual parents. My grandfather always keeps telling me advice however sometimes the advice is a bit off or doesn’t make sense or either he rants in circles about the issue. I am currently pursuing a major in Graphic Design however my grandparents are concerned that I might turn out like my uncle who had some struggle to find a job. He has a job currently. So far I am doing my best in college. Although I still try to keep up my grades so my parents and family are proud of me.
oyea that's really explaining the whole experiences and I resonate with that, but in my case it's kinda split, because my dad is like that, but not openly talk abt what he thought, only shares that to my mom, meanwhile my mom more open, supportive and she's acting like a middle man who not speak any words that would possibly makes me and my dad mad at each other.
Not gonna lie. This whole thing has me crying due to how close to my own experience. Only my tie is now well severed. And well pass the point of no return. :(
No, but for real: The cutscene in Xianyun's story quest made me cry. Just having a parental figure seeing the traveler in distress and being emotionally there to care for them really just hit my in the feels.
i haven't pulled for Xianyun and wasn't interested her in gameplay BUT when i played her story and this event as a whole, my respect for her just peaked. her mother figure is something unique in this game. i also remember that cutscene and yes i cried lol
and i feel like it was the first time someone took care of the traveler after they got hit by the pain and suffering of being separated from their sibling because otherwise it was just paimon brushing our hurt off (i genuinely hate paimon more and more) and xianyun being there for the traveler and just giving them that motherly comfort and love no questions, no expectations, broke me so much (i was BAWLING) because traveler deserves more hugs and love than anyone in this game and they never seem to get it
This is why I love this year's Lantern Rite more than anything. As a Filipino, some parents don't listen to us nor would even give us the chance to speak our mind. In our culture, "having a conversation" to your parents equates to "talking back" which they will take high offense and they will start spitting this foul words; will say how "ungrateful and disrespectful" we are for speaking and sometimes can lead to violence. I, for one, had been physically, emotionally and mentally abused by my dad for having my own dreams and told me that I wasn't good enough and choosing a career that supports my passion will lead me nowhere. Hence Gaming story had me bawling and happy-depressed after doing it.
Also, Zhongli made me tear up too. Some parents need someone who has more authority than them to start putting sense into their head. That's the only way for them to see things on different light since some of them are so close-minded to their old ways and ideals and they never understands what it feels like to be their own "child" and living into someone else's plans and dreams.
Being Filipino American I was confused by why some people were upset with the story. Now seeing the other perspective I can understand why others would feel that way. 🙏 Let's all learn together
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zhongli's part in this quest was extremely relatable to me. i needed someone to intervene, a mediating party, so that my parents would hear me. many parents think they know what's best for their kids, and it's hard to get a point across when they won't even consider your side of things. zhongli being that bridge, rephrasing the things gaming feels, and being an outside eye helps yip tak recognize that it's not just gaming who feels the way he does, that there's other perspectives. it's very refreshing!
edit: things are a lot better with my parents now, we have repaired our relationship by working with mediators!
calling out your own prejudice, realizing a point of privilege, and having a humble enough heart to respond in empathy/understanding. genuinely incredible. rare.
thank you for sharing. you give me hope for others.
much love always
Gaming needs to be protected at ALL COST
I've never had a huge personal relationship with my parents, so when Xianyun jumped into auntie mode after hearing from Paimon what happened, it felt so warm to me. Like something I always craved but never got to experience. Seeing the concern from Xianyun and the concern from just everyone really made me quite emotional. Even the advice from Zhongli was realistic and supportive for both Gaming and Yip Tak. It really healed a small part of my inner child ❤
Great video Dish! I really enjoyed seeing you open up and hear other perspectives as well!
I called this storyline immediately when Gaming's backstory came out, as Mihoyo has tackled stories with increasing complexity for past few Lantern Rite events. This story hit terribly hard as a Southeast-Asian Chinese.
I've always had a very rough relationship with my parents and will always keep them at a distance - I make personal life choices with input from my close friends, and it is a struggle to navigate adulthood (late 20s) without the guidance of someone who knows more about the world. I wish I had parents that I could confide in and trust but I have accepted that this would never be the case for me. My closest 'parental' figures have been people that I met at work or teachers that I still keep in contact with. My friends gave me a home and a pillar of support when I can't count on family - they have tried to speak out many times on my behalf but will always be shot down by my parents.
Family is such a core value in asian/chinese culture, where I struggle to live life on my own terms without being restricted, but at the same time having to consider that my 'rebellion' is considered an attack against the family values. The kite analogy brought up by Gaming made me cry, as I have always felt that my experiences related heavily with that analogy.
I work in the Engineering field, doing art on the side. I have never felt seen or heard from my parents for my successes in my creative ventures, and was never taken seriously about it. To have such a core part of your identity being dismissed as a casual interest and being told I would never be good enough has hurt me, and will continue to hurt me for the foreseeable future. It is hard to reconcile recognising that your parents only want the best for you (a more cushy, stable job), when they constantly put you down for your efforts. I continuously strive for creative improvement and bigger projects, but till this day very little accomplishments have made me feel enough for them, despite not forsaking my 'stable' day job per their requirements. You're right, the desire to please your parents never really go away - I think deep down I still wish they could approve of me, and I think that keeps coming back to hurt me. But giving that up would essentially be cutting family ties.
I have accepted that I will never get true reconciliation and happiness with my family where they fully accept me for who I am, so I live vicariously through stories like Gaming's quest, Turning Red, and hopefully being able to convince myself that I am enough, not for my parents, but for myself.
Thank you for your thoughtfulness and being open to our experiences and our struggles Ms Dish. It means a lot to those of us in the community.
This hit hard as a chinese person and knowing that Hoyo is a chinese company with the parent-child culture we know typically surrounds it. Was nice getting to hear everyone share in the safespace.
This is what makes a great event, to bring us together like we were actually there. Not one person trying to cause problems. Whatever the writers wanted to evoke in us and aim for, they nailed it.
i didnt realise many ppl had your reaction initally to the quest, its very interesting to hear! im Chinese with a large part of my family hving a Cantonese background. Gaming's story and character resonated so much with me, from all the dim sum references to the way he pursues his artistic dreams under pressure of familial expectations. i burst out in tears during the cutscene as soon as Gaming started performing (and continued sobbing throughout HAHA). i felt like he was able to show his artistic worth to everyone with that dance, most importantly dad, who was there thanks to our help. it felt like such a triumphant moment for Gaming. the buildup of his struggles and others helping him before rlly sold this cutscene for me. 10/10 Lantern Rite i showed it to my sister and she cried too🥹❤
Fr, I am also Canto and Gaming’s story here just hit home. My parents were never ones to be warm and supportive of everything like other people’s parents, but I think me and my siblings all knew deep down that our parents just wanted the best for us. They sacrificed lots of their own life to be able to raise us kids, even if they were “wrong” in some ways like Yip Tak. The cutscene of Gaming’s performance made me cry too. Something about the music, the cinematics, and what it all meant when we saw Yip Tak there watching just made it all so fuzzy and warm. It was something that might not be reality for many young people out there, to have supportive parents and all, but in game, seeing it just made me so happy. And of course all the dim sum talk at the start of the quest was hilarious. I love that there’s so much care put into Gaming’s character, from the way he talks, the things he talks about, is passionate about, his struggles(this part hit a little too close to home haha)… I love him so much, and especially so since Canto representation in games and media is pretty low
@@megaconure right!! i remember being confused why Genshin didnt romanise Gaming's name as the Mandarin version Jiaming instead, but now i love the choice of going the extra mile to show that he's Canto
I’m Vietnamese but the cutscene where the drum starting make me feel so nostalgic and think back on when I was a little, my parents took me go see liondance at New Year. This lantern rite feels so related for me. I have supportive parents and our relationship is close as well, but I’m just so taken aback watching others’ streams and seeing they’re uncomfortable with the quest or really hate the father. The way many people see it is like Gaming has to resent the father or something and I was like how?
20:17 murdy jumps up on reading chair
YAAAAHHHH MURDY!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
I had a very similar experience to yours during this quest. At first I felt quite uncomfortable and that we were invading Gamings privacy. I was thinking about my personal experiences and how violated I would feel if my situation was being told to others without my consent. It was astonishing how my feelings changed as the quest played out and provided insight on a completely different perspective. Silly little video game quests continue to surprise me with the learning opportunities they contain and I can’t wait for more!!
I noticed this was also an occurrence with the Fontaine Archon Quest and how the Traveler & Paimon behaved with Furina. Even in her friendship quest, they were both pushing to make Furina do things she hadn't felt comfortable with, and it broke the immersion for a time because I was honestly getting frustrated by it. I think they both mean well, but it was definitely a tough thing to sit through for a time.
As someone from a First-Generation Immigrant family, this quest hit extremely close to my heart. I myself saw Gaming's position in wanting to pursue a creative career and being told that it wasn't enough. I felt his pain and his experience with his father's rejection. Something I've learned through family therapy is that our parents want the best for us. They bring us the opportunity of easy life that already has guarantee success. Our parents, especially those who are immigrants, have experienced pain and disappointment and they don't want their kids to feel that as well. Gaming's father was scared of the rejection that could be thrown toward Gaming through his passion, so he tried to give Gaming that easy path to success. Initially, I was reminded of my white friends who grew with supportive parents and tried to help me with my family situation when I watched the group tried to intervene. They tried so hard to give Gaming a voice and while it could be irritable that it takes an outside voice to have your voice be heard, it is refreshing to see that Gaming got this help and accepted it because he saw a light at the end of the tunnel.
I mean this with my whole heart when I say this quest is beautifully written in conveying the complexity within us. I left this quest hoping for it to be this easy for all of us, to all be able to soar like the kites that use the wind to fly among the stars. I hope you all have amazing futures. Remember, you are all an important part of the universe and deserve all the love in the world. Your problems are valid and seen.
Wow, I didn't realise there were actually such polarising opinions on this quest. As a chinese singaporean, i knew of many people with such family situations (mine included) and I know how much it feels that parents mean well but don't listen or understand their children. Many parents believe their way is the best way, so to have someone else who is on your side come and convince them to open their minds just a little is really cathartic to watch.
I think this lantern rite quest is really a "wish come true" for many people. To have your parents actually open their mind and start to accept you, and even feel proud seeing you doing your best is something so many would live for. It may not be entirely realistic (many won't get such an opportunity), but to see it happen gives us hope that it could be possible, and maybe some courage to try.
I was in the chat when this happened and I still loved that the Liyue music in the background made the whole discussion so profound and philosophical.
As an individual, I genuinely did feel weird about how some people actively disliked this quest and called it the weakest Lantern Rite. Maybe it is subjective, but I felt it was the strongest Lantern Rite and it hit home the most out of all the Lantern Rites so far. My family environment was mostly stable but I could still empathize with Gaming’s situation, yet still feel like the intervention from the Traveler, Paimon, and Xianyun was still well-founded.
17:10 "go from 'this is weird' to 'it's weird to me, because this isn't really about me'" i wish more people would start to make this kind of shift, especially when talking about a piece of media. your wisdom and openness is always nice to see miss dish
It is also important to note that even though the Traveler and Xianyun did open the door for Gaming to talk to his dad it was Gaming in the end who recognised his dad's efforts and decided to stay at the table to hear him. Otherwise Gaming had already ran away before, and he was willing to immediately leave again the moment he thought they were going to have the same tired conversation. Like Xianyun said in her SQ she may be an adepti but she cannot guide though who dont want help
I have been asked by many people who wanted to “fix” my problems with my father. As an indian, who has not spoken to her father in about four years after coming out as LGBT, I think the story really resonated with me and I often cried in a lot of points. I can speak as someone both culturally asian and someone with heavy trauma with her father.
A lot of the points made by you were good, but I would like to say that I as well felt quite uncomfortable in the way we were intervening. By itself, it is not really an issue, but it feels like we did it behind Gaming’s back. Ofcourse there is a cultural aspect to it, but it should not disregard someone (Gaming)’s personal feelings whether he would like us to put in a good word on his behalf or invite his father. Paimon telling Xianyun about Gaming’s situation unprompted was still not her place. I do like the conclusion but the journey could have been handled a little more respectfully to Gaming’s personal wishes.
The most uncomfortable I felt was when we put Gaming in that situation with his father and left to talk to Zhongli while he has to sort out trauma he was probably not ready to deal with as there was no prior knowledge that we would make him have such a confrontation.
Someone speaking on my behalf never feels good if they havent run it by me first. But the ending of the quest was quite heartwarming, it did leave me in tears because the situation did end up working out and left me desiring a similar conclusion with my own father.
Same here. Chinese with estranged parents, also pressured to "fix" problems with parents. I felt the same way as you did. The lantern rite quest was heartwarming but it truly is the BEST possible outcome from their approach. With how complicated family problems are, there were a million ways the traveller and paimon's approach could have went wrong, I personally feel that they were mostly "lucky" that Ga Ming's case worked out with their plan.
I think it's really interesting because as someone who is estranged from my family if someone did what the traveler and paimon did to me, I'd stop being their friend. Like you said it just isn't their place, especially if we just met.
*However*
Gaming's situation is also very different, his deals with a more malleable person and a reasoning that is based a lot more on worry rather than hatred for what Gaming is doing.
I think it's just really important to ask your friend before you go and do something like this, or even reach out to the people they are away from
My experience with this quest pretty much mirrored yours tbh. On my initial playthrough I really bounced off the way everyone was trying to 'fix' Gaming and his dad's relationship without permission since it's something I would feel deeply disrespected by. Watching your vod and seeing the differences in culture from chat really opened my eyes to a perspective of it being welcome to some when tensions reach an impasse. Honestly a really cool experience and I learnt a lot thanks to you & your community!
My only problem was how half of the help was built on lies which if discovered could damage the relationship more than it was already and gaming was consulted in none of it
This is such a good video. It just goes to show how powerful of a device literary media is. Not only was it evoking a feeling of validation, understanding and compassion in people who have been in similar situations but also it was able to provide context and an insight to some people who may not have had similar experiences. It was really beautiful and heartwarming to see you process the situation and then hear chat speaking up about how they connected with the story. In an age where it's getting harder and harder to understand and empathize with others, it brings a little hope to see people connect with each other on such a basic human level.
It also speaks volumes on the culture you have fostered in your community. Despite your initial discomfort, you still tried your best to understand and empathize. The patience and vulnerability some chatters showed while sharing their perspective and how much thought you put into every story you heard is really uplifting. The summarization of empathy being similar to a muscle that is exercised is something that I hope sticks with me for a long time. I hope to not only empathize better but also be patient and understanding when other people try to empathize. Loved the video
Gaming is such a sweetie, I cried aswell from the cinematic! Made me feel a lot
Hi Dish! As a Chinese person living abroad, every lantern rite is pretty emotional haha, this year’s story with Gaming hits especially hard since I’m away from home for reasons similar to why he left home. The part that really struck me was seeing Gaming, who found success and stability on his own path (and having already made peace with probably never receiving his dad’s approval again). Seeing him, despite all that, clearly still have that deep desire to make his dad proud, I think that hit a nerve I didn’t expect.
Just wanted to say thank you for using your platform both on UA-cam and Twitch to make space for this conversation
Hi, I normally never comment but this video moved me. Coming from a Hispanic household with my mom being an immigrant, the same sentiment in this quest applied growing up but with mental health. I have had an anxiety disorder since I was 15 and it took a toll on my relationship with my parents. They loved me and wanted me to feel better but since mental health tends to be pushed away in Mexican culture, their upbringing didn’t show them how to help with it. They thought that their ways of helping me were the “correct” ways and when they didn’t work or when I tried to explain what I felt like I needed, they got frustrated. In those moments, I would have given anything for an outsider to come in and explain that I wasn’t deliberately ignoring their advice, but it just wasn’t what I needed to recover. Later, my brother helped me explain what I needed them to know since they wouldn’t listen to me and they finally understood my side and I understood theirs. This quest relayed this general sentiment beautifully 💕 Thank you for sharing your point of view dish ❤
Im from a Hispanic household too (Puerto Rican) and I went through similar things as you too they would teach me the “correct way” of what I should be doing in life and none of it worked for me
Wow, this comment really made me feel seen as someone from a Hispanic household with mental health issues. I'm in the same situation. It is really difficult to try and communicate that people are different and some ways of helping don't help everyone. It also doesn't help that I don't tend to communicate well when emotional so a lot of conversations just end in both parties failing to understand each other. I love my parents and I know they love me, but sometimes I do wish I had a Paimon/Xianyun/Zhonglu who would intervene and help them understand.
I think there's also element of east vs west folklore and mythos in the 7:00 part about intervention, Gods and Demigods helping personal issues arent that uncommon in eastern stories imo. In a way, all of Liyue are the Adepti's children and they are there to guide them be it a big issue such as fighting Osial or a relatively small issue like a father-son conflict. In Genshin world, the people revere these sages and gods and they actually exist, compared to our world, they're just different.
Someone intervening in family affairs (be it relatives or other outsiders) can be perceived as beneficial or bothersome depending on personal subjective opinion. My aunt could not take it anymore and chose to inform us kids what our own parents could not bring themselves to reveal. Ultimately it boils down to the intent of the person and what outcome s/he plans to achieve with such actions. A lot of times a wheel cannot get unstuck from the mud until some external leverage is brought into play.
I agree with a lot of your sentiments and the general journey you went on in understanding this quest! For me personally, I guess it's also the matter of us having no say in how to go about this situation. I felt like I was just being wrapped up in a scheme cooked up by Xianyun and Paimon against my will. Understandably, this isn't the type of game where we could realistically make choices on how to go about quests or often even the tone with which to speak to NPCs, but it was still jarring how this whole operation just went ahead without my, the player's, input. I was like 'Wait, WAIT, Paimon, WAIT" and ultimately I think that's what made me go yikes at the quest, in the beginning at least. All Genshin quests work like this, but because this one hit juuuust a bit too close to home, it took me out for a little bit.
i don’t know if this will sound inappropriate? but it’s really so amazing to me how universal some human experiences are despite cultural differences…
i’ve grown up in the southern US my entire life and have very limited knowledge of Chinese culture and yet the part of the Lantern Rite cutscene where Gaming sees his father waiting for him at the bridge with the suanni kite and they finally reconcile made me burst into tears - the first time Genshin has ever made me cry.
in many ways Gaming’s father reminds me of my own father - and it made me cry to see them reconcile with each other because i wish i could have that with my own father so badly… it both makes my heart hurt but also gives me some small hope that maybe one day i can have that moment with my own father as well
I think what I really liked about this video is how open-minded Dish was, understanding the different stories the chat told us. The differences between cultures. Like I used to understand that different cultures do things differently, but watching exactly how they differ from one another is very interesting. Each person is a different story, and each story is a different world. I really like how Genshin can give us a window towards another world in many senses of the phrase.
as a malaysian (malay) and a counsellor myself, I’ve experienced this in both ways. As a daughter, I felt like I couldn’t get through my mother. I was a rebel in a sense so we fought but it just never worked out. I want to stand my ground but most times it will end in verbal arguments. It might be an Asian thing where “your mother knows best, stop talking nonsense you are rebelling against me you are a bad daughter”. That’s what I thought. I wished someone advised her. As heartbreaking as it made me, for her to not listen to me as a daughter, and only for her to listen to others, it hurts. But if it works, why not. I’ll take it (i gave up).
As a counsellor side, I have seen several clients, children that would share the same theme. How they wish their parents would listen. How they would give up and stay silent. Sometimes they want me to intervene. And theres also parents who would meet me for counselling. And they share their concerns about their children. How they want the best for them but they notice how distant their child is getting. Or how their behaviour changed (more agitated, or more nervous. A mother shared her child went through a panic attack and she felt guilty). And these parents need guidance.
I don’t know where I’m going with this whole tangent but I feel like because of this cultural expectations, how they want their child to be this and that, it just doesn’t fare well for both the child and the parent. Sorry if I sound weird, English is not my first language 😞
Like you said about intervening in others parental conflict - usually it can do more harm than good, with one exception. Gaming's father (even whole family as you could see if you failed sneaky part) is oppressive. And thats something unrelated to culture, you'll find that in America, Europe, Asia... whole world.
With oppressive parents you usually try to talk to them, multiple times, until you finally realize that nothing good comes from it. Here's how most conversations go : you tell them something, they gaslight you, then they tell you what you should do according to them. And if you dont agree with them, they openly critize/humiliate you every opportunity they got, often followed by grounding you/taking away your privileges. After few rounds of that you learn to just kinda go by whatever they want, while planning and counting days to your "grand escape".
In that case all you want is to hear some words of encouragement, and for someone to stand in your corner, no matter what. Also at the point we meet Gaming, he already gave up on having normal relationship with his father - notice that he had no plans to ever go back to his dad. If not our intervention, then he'd probably live the rest of his life avoiding him. That's also the reason why he didnt mind us butting in his business, because at that point he had nothing to lose.
as people who live and grow in asia, mostly it was really connected to this quest,and we actually understood with both side. it also sometimes parents are so stubborn and head harded that they always things that they're right cause they're live longer than us. They always thing that some "job" that not able to provide us in long run, and what they wished for is we have happy life without concerning about money. and the only people that they want to hear is someone that they're respected.. thats why most of us want people to come and help.
sadly its not work as easily as we think.. some parents are human and they have different personality
example my mom finally let me do what i want after i get 24 yo... its also first time that i show very depressed behavior, and my body cannot handle more. I started breaking both mentally and Physically... She still keep apologizing till this day because her past behavior even I already forgive her.
My dad also did the the same, but i already lost trust on him, since he almost killed me because i got 1 on math, i still carry the scars from the hitting that he done (gladly my mom leave him when i was 12)
I didn't know people were uncomfortable with this story quest. The only thing personally that gave me pause was paimon just randomly bringing up gamings family situation because i felt like there could be a less sudden way to move the story forward. Im someone who had a reconciliation with my parents as an adult so i was touched by everyone wanting to help gaming. It made me really like xianyun and gaming.
This quest somewhat hit close to home, I didn’t feel uncomfortable. More towards an understanding of what Ga Ming and his father went through but also conflicted emotions. Certain words hit close to home, especially as a first Generation and eldest child in my family. The expectations and pressures from my parents. My parents wanted me to be a teacher, doctor, layer, etc but were supportive yet not supportive of my love for the arts. Despite having now graduated after six years of university, I sometimes they say I should have studied to be nurse or in dental or something because I’m struggling to find a job in my field of study.
Plus I’m now used as an example towards my younger siblings of things they should and shouldn’t do since I have through the whole experience. I understand they want what’s best for me, at the same time, they don’t realize constantly telling me that I should to so something else as well as me repeating times are not the same as they use be, its tiring. I want to succeed, I want to grow, but the words they keep repeating and the pressure feel like I’m being choked over and over again.
Thankfully I have sat down with my parents, we had a heart to heart talk about it. I have thank one of siblings for that. I told the, I understand they want me to succeed but also that their constant words and pressure is not helping me. I’m glad they apologized to me and that we spoke.
this video literally was the best thing i couldve chosen to watch OH MY GODDDDD 😭😭😭😭😭😭 i would LOVE more sit down chats about how certain stories in genshin make you and your chat feel, genshin still has a long way to go and im so excited to see your thoughts and feelings on other (difficult or not) topics genshin brings up.
even though i related to gaming (i’m actually one of the filipinos in chat lol), i had your initial reaction to the quest. i’m super individualistic and i felt that it wasn’t anyone else’s place but gaming and his dad’s to fix their problems, so i thought it was super invasive for what were essentially strangers to butt into a very private matter. all that immediately changed the moment i heard yip tak’s concerns, because he reminded me so much of my own father. the fact that traveler and paimon and xianyun and zhongli cared enough for gaming that they stepped in and helped yip tak become more open-minded was so touching and sweet. i’m glad i was able to live vicariously through gaming, even if it was just for an hour.
I also felt uncomfortable during the earlier parts of the quest. But I think it stems from me having a very bad experience with outside family figures stepping in and just.... wasn't able to help. I grew up with the mindset of nothing can change my parents, absolutely nothing at all.
But by the end of the quest, all I wanted was for the people around Gaming to succeed and help him, and for Gaming to reach that connection with his dad. It was a sort of catharsis and overwhelming feeling of gratefulness.
I may not have been able to experience that, but I'm so glad that this friend of mine did. And that was all I wanted by the end.
This quest was hard for me. Being in a somewhat similar position but not seeing any progress even after getting the outside help. After 2 years of personal advancement and even buying my own house, nothing seems to resolve this communication blockade. All I can do is support the ones still around me and continue to build myself with the hope that eventually my stubborn parent realizes their mistake and changes their mind.
ngl i feel so dumb only focusing on rewards and consuming all the drama around it. To the point where I forgot I could enjoy games without rewards. The game is FREE and the story is FREE.
Thank You dish Oddly enough, this video actually serves as a reminder for me. thats weird ah whatever THANK YOU
honestly this is great and refreshing to hear. thanks for being honest enough to say it :)
I am genuinely so glad that you covered this in some capacity. I feel like a lot of people forget that hobo is ultimately a company steeped in culture that's really different from most perspectives in more Western countries. But this lantern rite has honestly made me feel so seen in a way I haven't felt in a really, really long time (maybe never before) and it's so near and dear to my heart for that reason. Loved this quest, and hope that hoyo does more of this in future lantern rites.
All I know is that while living with my family, if someone tried to intervene in my situation like we did with Gaming's in the quest, I would be in more danger than I was before. That's why it made me uncomfortable.
I'm glad that Dish made this video; and the fact she mentioned about different cultures and how accepting she was towards this quest in regards to the fact that Asian culture can differ with Western culture (in this matter) in pursuing dreams vs. taking conventional ways with our careers.
I'm Asian and my family is generally supportive of me doing my own thing, but due to many circumstances and a lot of them was about past and present social constructs and expectations, some can derived from many generations of sufferings from wars and poverty, the families are also very concerned of pursuing our dreams that are too niche or strayed from conventional ways, as in the point that our parents are genuinely worried of our well-being in the future, as some traditional restraints that can be cut-throat and, in a sense, can hold us back. They just wanted to prepare the easiest lives for us. So for me, it was NOT uncomfortable at all playing this quest when the group intervened Gaming's situation, as I actually have many relatives trying to care too much as well and have been trying to get balance from that 😅
It got much less now as my generation now adopted the Western way of freedom more and more, and absolutely now I have my own son I want to support him as much as he wants in the future, by getting into the stuff he likes and helps him, just like how Dish' parents did to her 😉
I think this quest once again highlights my biggest issue with Genshin as a whole, and I’ve had this issue since 2.8: Hiding important character development and stories behind time-limited event quests, rather than something that can be played at any time.
They seriously need to bring back story quests for 4-Star characters, because Genshin’s reached a quality with storytelling in its characters that they can do much more with them other than glorified VNs that play it safe with the 4-star’s character development.
(Note: Take this sentiment with a grain of salt. I have not played many of the newer hangout events so I don’t know if they’re better but at least having a definitive story to follow rather than 5-6 “routes” for 4-star characters would be spectacular.)
yeaaaa i am big bummed about that. I really hope they will rerun events or give us a way to experience them beyond just watching on youtube
ive been hoping the reason we havent seen albedo in so long is because they're working on a quest archival system
Since the beginning you mean.
@@riotangel4701 Well, I started in 2.2, and then realized it was an issue in 2.8 because I really enjoyed Fischl’s part in the Archipelago event quest
@@thesalsaguy4395 You began earlier than me; I started with 2.3 p2. But I very quickly saw the problem watching the experience of veteran players.
As someone with extremely complicated and unconventional relationships with both of my parents, I was hit pretty hard by this Lantern Rite quest and felt it was well written. Unfortunately my father is not the kind of person whose mind can be changed, but seeing a story about a partially mended parental relationship was comforting. Last year I had a family friend intervene between me and my father, and my initial reaction was very similar to yours Dish. But the result was undeniably good. I ended up seeing my father again after more than a decade and spent 10 hours sitting at a table having a civil conversation, even laughing a little and finding common ground. I've had closure on matters that were festering for years and feel all the better for it. Gaming's story was so satisfying to me as it felt so similar to my own
I have a very strange situation: I was close with my mum but not as much with my dad during when I was a teenager. I came out as transgender when I was 13 and my mum bought me my first binder. 10 years later she has completely reversed her views and rejected me. My dad stepped in when she was going off sometimes even though they’re divorced. My dad has come a long way in accepting me and despite being very heartbroken by my mum, he has stepped in and built the relationship that I needed
This quest and your video really show how important communication is, parents need to try to remember not to block out their kids.
This story is a little off topic but when I was a kid I told my mum I had a boyfriend and instead of trying to talk to me about it she got mad. I never wanted to talk to her about boys again and because of that I did some silly things and started lying to her. Later on she talked to me about boy stuff and I was able to open up to her again.
I guess everybody gets upset sometimes but it’s important to talk about it. I’m lucky to have such a good mum who let me make my own choices and will listen to me without judgement.
I think a lot of parents don’t realise they are blocking out their kids because they believe they are doing what’s right, like my mum didn’t realise she blocked me out by getting mad instead of talking to me about it.
I can’t imagine how hard it is for people who don’t have that, I think, like you said in the video, it would be so nice for those people to have someone help get their parents to see things from a different perspective, start that conversation and stop blocking out their kids. Sometimes someone just has to start the conversation.
I'm continually enjoying these video essays even though this one hit so deep. Thank you for having such meaningful, enlightening discussions that your community can bond over with. I feel like these games are truly a turning point in history where they're starting to be more than just a fun past-time thing, they're bringing people together and inspiring those who need comfort and motivation to improve their lives in one way or another, or simply just learn another lesson that will bring a whole new understanding.
Ugh, I could go on forever but consider me moved and I'm so looking forward to another! 🌸
I would have loved to be part of that chat. It'll be like therapy just to share those stories. I like the difference that Xianyun whose not even the blood parent of Shenhe and Ganyu is seen as the better parent than the blood related one as Gaming's father. I also like the symbolism of the kites, of the parent letting their kids soar but still holds onto the string if they need support from family.
I had the same reaction as you even though I had a simmilar experience to Gaming. I think what caused it was that my parents have always placed a lot of importance in keeping up appearances, and if someone were to interfere in what they consider "private family affairs" it would tick them off instantly. To be honest, I don't think your reaction was wrong, I mean it's only natural to interpret things from your own perspective and it's also what makes life interesting. I really hope I can catch a stream of yours sometime!
Late to the party but I still want to chime in to the community and also hopefully boost the algorithm so more people can watch this masterpiece
Watching the whole video made me teared up a bit because it feels so good to be seen. As an Indonesian male and firstborn, you were totally right when you said that some people wished this gaming quest to happen in their life.
I also really like this community because, like this video, chat is soo raw and unfiltered. A literal safe space filled with empathy and compassion. Honestly when I watch Daily Dish video I'd love to zoom in just the chat because it feels good to laugh together while reading others experience. So thank you for the community dish, I hope we can all exercise our empathy and compassion muscle especially in this community. Also thank you chat for sharing your experience!!
Also (2), more video like this please!!
This story made me feel so much 😭 he reminds me of my sisters and even me, like I can see so many parts of all of us in him.
I understand Yip Yak wanted the best for him, but he did it in such a bad way his son ran away because of pressure and aspirations he knew he could make happen if he just tried hard enough. The last part of the cutscene made me hurt so happily because I was so happy for this character being able to make a relationship with his father ☺️💜
- watching this right after the Lantern Rite 2024 VOD :3
- I loooove the insight of this video :'D better empathy ftw
- The bittersweet comments of people relating to this so hard makes me warm ;u; I appreciate the bond that this game, story and this particular video has brought together. Sending love aaaaa
Hi! I was the who recommended to you the RednasYo's video! :D
I want to say more about my opinion on this whole thing:
(Already sorry in advance, I just a little much in english and will be relying a lot on google translation, not a good idea ik)
So, first of all: I would say about the thing parents like Yip Tak not being exclusive for Asia (because I feel like a lot of people it's thinking like that), but since Dish say it and thank god her community know that too, I'm just gonna put the timestamp here 25:10. So, let's start a long ass text that it's just my vision on the whole quest :D
I'm from Brazil, the other side of the world, and I feel like a lot of parents here also have a similiar mindset as Yip Tak, nowadays it's getting a little bit better, but still not a lot. Art still not see like a really job and of course like every other place in the world, it's hard to be a artist, because of that A LOT of parents just don't support their kids on this path, but that doesn't mean they don't care about them. Yip Tak, it's exactly that parent. In my personal view, he prefer to have 100% sure that Gaming will have enough money for his whole life, rather than his happiness and try other options, yk like parents wants their kids to be a doctor bc pays a lot? Yeah, exactly like that. But never in one second I saw him like really ONLY wanted Gaming to continue the family business, of course he wanted, but for me he focused way more on the assurance that his son will have enough to live a good life rather than continuing the family's business. Which, being honest? It's great, If I have to choose between a parent who just want me to continue the family business because of the legacy or name, or a parent who wants me to continue the family business because it's sure that I will have enough money to have a good life, I would prefer the last choose (because for me it will prove that they care more about my well-being than the family image). But, still, it would be better if the parent just support their kid in what they want to do.
Something, it's that I think some people miss it is that right after Yip make the offer to comeback to Gaming, he says "Dad really has changed a lot. He would have never said these things to me before", which means: Yip never in the past would have even considered letting Gaming do what he wants, but now by the end of the day, he did let him, he just say straight up that he didn't support him and then give a offer to him that Gaming CAN refuse, which in the past would never have happened. I think one of the things that maked his change his mind off-screen, it's definitely the feeling of guilty and longing that his son left. Guilty because it was his fault that Gaming run away, and longing because he miss his son, that definitely would be a feeling that would make the parent that care for their children, think about what happened, but of course as closed-mind and proud a lot of them are, Yip Tak also didn't change 100%, yet. But still, the fact that he changed in some way really knocked my head, make me really happy :).
Before talking about the final I want to add little things about little details:
1. Yip Tak saying to Gaming to talk more to Mr. Zhongli (heck it's strange to call him that). It feels more to me that he was specifically talking about asking more about tea to zhongli, rather than knowledge itself. It make me sad ngl.
2. About 10:42, it wasn't our fault. Paimon trying to put Gaming in a good light was something good, trying to proof that his son IT'S doing a good job alone by himself, but with how Yip Tak was, he really had to say "Seems like you've made some sort of name for youself, *at least*". It's the same feeling like a kid who work hard to get 10 on a test go to their parent to show the note and they say "You did the bare minimum", it's not the kid fault, neither of the teacher if they try to prove to the parents that their kid it's working hard, it's the parent fault for being closed-mind and harsh on that.
3. About Paimon telling Gaming's family situation, I can understand you. I also feel it a little bit uncomfortable in the beginning but since it was just Ganyu, Shenhe and Xianyun I though it was okay, because these three are literally the only ones that I would trust to keep such a secret and try to help on everything without being totally harsh and directly debating with his dad, because in a situation like that, debating directly saying "you're wrong" or "you're a bad parent" it's not going to solve the problem. Heck, even saying "You should support you kid" wouldn't work because in the father mindset he thinks: "How can I support my child if what they are trying to do it's not something that it's garented will have success?"
- This next detail I recommend reading after I talked about the cutscene and the scene after and about intervene in situations like this. Before the penultimate paragraph (the one with the heart), because, idk, In my opinion would be better. If you want to read now go for it, it's just what I think I would do. But you're the reader! Do it as you please. -
4. After the cutscene when Yip Tak ask Gaming if he's really taking doing Wushou Dance seriously and Gaming confirm, Gaming say that he knows it will be difficult, but then Yip intervene saying "Then it doesn't matter" and you can see the sad face in Gahming. In my perspective, it's because since Yip never really support him, Gaming saw this line as his father just saying "Your dream doesn't matter", or something among those lines. And I just LOVE how he sees how he didn't worded correctly and correct himself, making sure Gaming known that no matter if the path may be difficult, if it's what he son wants, he has to go for it.
(continue on the answers! :D lmao blame yt)
NOW, the final part (I actually have more but I have already say to much): Yip Tak change + Everyone getting involved in this situation:
As you say, change doesn't happen for one day to another, it took Gaming running away; years after their separate; listen from other people that he's doing good; listen from his friends that he's great at what he does; a talk with another adult who can understand both perspective, It took MANY things to Yip Tak change his mind and of course the final stroke was:
Seeing his son, that he didn't support at the beginning, doing what he's the best at. Seeing his son being cheered by the whole Liyue, seeing his son having the time of his life doing Wushou Dance, seeing him, above the top of that statue, smiling looking proud and accomplished by himself. His talk with Gaming after everything really it's something that many wish to have, because there are some parents that even after everthing I just said, will still not going to support their kid and don't ask me why because these exactly type of parents that I really can't understand.
Yip Tak finally supporting his son and calling him "son", it's something so strong and wisheful for many people, because that just not only mean his father finally support him, it means that he sees what he's son it's doing, that the person who did that amazing performance it's Gaming, it's his son and his proud of it.
Having people intervening in a situation like that it's so great for so many kids, teenagers and even adults, because a lot of them are scared or have giving up trying to talk with them parents. I think mostly teenagers decided to run away or get out of home so early after turning 18y old, because they just give up on trying to convince their parents or are afraid to talk to them, because if a conversation between a adult trying to change the mindset of their parents who also a adult it's already hard and a lot of times will just not grown results, imagine a teen who is seeing for most people in society just like a noisy human being who just like to complain about everything? It's gonna be even more hard and that's also why so many people are afraid to even try to talk to their parents, because they are afraid that they will hear just harshly words and nothing will change. This is just one occasion, that are so many things that changes from family to family, parent to parent, kid to kid. Humans are different, so it will be the parents reactions towards theirs kids trying to persuade a hard dream. Some parents are like Yip Tak and just want to be sure that the kid it's gonna be able to have money to live by themself; Some just care about the name of the family and how the legacy would be broken if they kids do another thing; others, just don't care at all about their kids dreams and want them to be something else because yes; some parents wants their kids to be something that they themselves haved wished they are when they are kids; others, just don't think that the dream of they children are valid; others, don't even will support they child on anything, maybe because, they don't even like them; others, will stop supporting they children on anything after their children start chasing they dream, and maybe, even stop seeing them as the human that they gave life to it. A simple talk about wanted to chase yours dreams can change so many things, that it's why so many people prefer to a third party to talk to their parents about it, rather them themselves try to talk with them. The fear it's just one thing that make the kids prefer someone else to try to talk to their parents, a lot of them, have just given up. Gaming say it earlier, Yip Tak say it in the conversation with Zhongli, Gaming say it in the bridge, "This conflict between us has been going on for a long time", so just imagine: how many times have Gaming try to change his dad's mind? How many times that he at least try to talk about it and just ended in another argument? He even say, "I'm not sure talking it's enough" because he have already try it, and it took all the others factors that I have say it earlier for the conversation between them at least get into something. Having someone talk with your parent about your feelings and what you want to achieve, it's way more easy exactly because you wouldn't have to hear such hard words, wouldn't get emotional, wouldn't be afraid to see your parent's disappointed expressions, because all this factors change how you continue to talk about it, a third party, will react different to all of that, that's why it's better someone to intervene.
Having someone else to tell your parents about your dreams, how this is what you want to do, how you're working hard, how some people even see your accomplishments, how you're happy making this, how if you have yours parents support would just make it their kid work even more hard, it's way more easier, because then you wouldn't have to hear everything you just say it being demolished by a "You wouldn't have do to all this, If you had done what I told you to do".
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First of all, thank you, Dish. This a important topic and I'm happy that someone make a whole video talking about it, this really means a lot, thank you, really. I will say though, it was a coward move make such a good speech with the cutscene in the background, do you want me to cry again? 😭 I'm jokinghsjshs ly 💗.
I'm sorry for any grammar mistakes and If you see any "Gahming" just ignore, I have to put a H so the translator wouldn't translate to game ☠️. In any case, if you read until here thank you so much! If you didn't it's alright. I don't even know if you, Dish, will have the time to read everything, so yeah. Sorry for the huge ass text lol, I'm not even sure if youtube will allowed this huge ass text. Let's see! ;) (It didn't LMAO)
For me, my experience with this endeavor...was a quiet emotional feel, and I didn't always have a close relationship with my parents. I'm 19.5 now, I can say that I started to understand my father a lot at the time one of the people in the chat said that parents are human too, my father has anger issues and he was angry with me too and it was very difficult to convince him too which kept me alive emotionally, she is caring Very and I remember that my first goal as a child was just to make my father proud, like with the games here to see this embarrassment and also his father proud at the end, it kind of gave me flashbacks now I can say that my relationship with my father is kind of better, since I can I understand him better and I know that he wants the best for me and sees that the path to success is different from mine but he started supporting me even when he didn't really agree by the way this really means a lot and he also started paying attention to his words especially when he's kind of angry or upset
But I have to say that having such a caring mother and a father who really cares but doesn't show it and is kind of strict has made me a better person like the balance here but it would be healthier if it came from the same person
and really thank you for this vid it made my day and reminded me of ... things that is real important to me ( my fav female youtuber ) ^^
I thought your breakdown was done amazingly, and as i read through a lot of these comments it opened my eyes to a lot of different perspectives from different cultures and how different people would appreciate either a figure like zhongli or xinyun to step in on behalf of them to maybe help reach an understanding with their parents and get them to understand where their kid is coming from and how they feel. It’s important to realize that we are all human and our experiences shape us in different ways and we are never truly done growing and learning about ourselves and others. There is no handbook for parenting and most of us won’t know what that is like for some time and for some they may never know what being a parent is like as a fear of not being able to break those toxic cycles. For me personally i also initially felt that it was not only strange and uncomfortable for Paimon to share information that was given to us in confidence but to make a plan with others to force a reconciliation. I definitely saw where the story was trying to go and the direction they wanted to take with the idea of family and reunion especially given the cultural aspect of things. I do feel like a lot of the discomfort stems from that forced feeling where it was obvious that we as the traveler were trying to get a conversation between Gaming and his Father started. While different, and in my personal opinion probably not the best way to go about things, I thought a lot of that discomfort started dissipating as i noticed and it was shown how much support Gaming still had from his friends and people who were willing to speak in favor of his character. Which even if Gaming and his father hadn’t resolved things it would’ve still made for a good story about found family and learning that blood relatives sometimes won’t support you as much as the people you meet in life and how that’s still okay. Everyone’s family doesn’t look the same or hold the same ideologies. In my experience as a white westerner who has had a strained relationship with both of my parents for quite some time, this setup would’ve actually made me extremely uncomfortable. I do feel as though there are a lot of communication problems and difficulties understanding each other when it comes to my own parents and at least in my experience my parents were not open to criticism or different points of views when it came to how they should go about raising my siblings and i and the choices they felt we should be making. Whether it came from another adult family member, their own parents, or an outside adult my parents definitely saw it as a critique of their parenting skills and would often take it to heart and would lash out at either us or burn bridges with others to preserve their own feelings and ideals. So to me while the thought was nice i think it’s important to realize that sometimes there is a good reason as to why people may not want to talk to their parents and it’s not always right for others to insert themselves into those situations especially not really knowing the full extent or context of the situation, and it’s also not anyone’s place (again in my opinion) to decide whether or not you should have your parents in your life for whatever reason and no one is obligated to give one. It was nice Gaming and his father reconciled but i also think it’s important to understand this really could’ve gone many ways and a lot of them wouldn’t have been as good even if the intention was pure and coming from a place of care for a friend. I am really glad to see genshin expand on the topic of family and strained relationships as it is something a lot of people have experienced at some time in their lives and i’m glad i was able to gain insight and understanding of other people and other culture’s values and family dynamics.
To me, I was so aware as a kid that my parent and I needed outside help, but I was also terrified of change. I wondered, "would it come off as offensive?" if I had asked for help in any way. I grew up with silent treatment, so I wondered if asking for it was actually worth it. As if I spoke up, it would lead to an argument. Personally, this quest made me reflect and admittedly, I did cry. Sometimes I wish I had gotten outside help from a found-family. Sometimes, I still do. It really got to me during lantern rite that familial issues still have a hope of being resolved, and that as long as these confrontations go on, you are still connected by blood. I grew up in the UK, so I cannot speak for Asian households, but this is my personal experience.
In short, little me longs for outside help to come in and give advice to my parents, but I also knew that no one else saw the issues except me.
What a beautiful reflection! Admittedly I clicked through most of this quest until the point they started helping Gaming, so I missed a lot of the details leading up to the outcome/happy ending (which still made me tear up regardless though). This was really nice to watch to see what I had missed that wasn't a literal recap. Your thoughts were insightful and well presented. I'd love to see more of these [as they naturally arise]!
Genshin really hits a lot of things that don't get presented in other media that I think are very important (one that comes to mind is the Mondtsadt event where we heard a lot of Collei's and Sucrose's inner monologue about being awkward and afraid to try to be friends). Never truer words than "media shifts culture", and I think Genshin is doing some good in that realm.
This quest unexpected make me cry and after finishing the quest I stare in nowhere and think about life.... Also I wish I can be like Ga-ming that brave enough to try again to talk to his parents in sensitive topic even he already experience conflict in the first place...
I like this kind of video , Thank you Ms. Dish
I have always enjoyed Lantern Rite quests, but this recent Lantern Rite quest was really beautiful and struck a cord in me as an Asian. I also come from a sort of privileged background (by Asian standards) because my parents never pressured me to be this and that. What matters to them is that my job gives me food on the table and a roof above my head and that I could always come home to them when I need help.
I love that Dish shared her experience with the Lantern Rite. It wasn't just a react andy kind of video. I was present when she streamed the lantern rite but I didn't get to finish stream. I could see that it was also a learning experience for her and for some in chat who probably didn't come from this culture. Thank you for sharing your experience with the quest, Dish and to chat as well.
Accidentally come across this video of yours, miss dish... I come from an Asian family, and i don't have such understanding and empathic parents. We actually have had a lot of conflicts but i can't share this with my college friends (my mom told me this because it would affect family reputation). So when I randomly watched this video, I didn't know that I would be so interested that I went through the whole thing in 30 minutes...
Family matters are something that has become my vulnerable spot for me. I think it would be so good if I could share this to a know-how-to-deal-with-things friend/ person (idk the word lol English is my second language). However, in reality, it's actually very different and I find it so difficult to talk about this topic to anyone other than family members that I'm closest to (mostly my older sis who is studying abroad and sometimes my lil bro who is more mature than me). Therefore, this video is very eye-opening for me because I wouldn't know that from your perspective, people from outside help solving a family issue is considered intervening others' private matters.
That's my personal experience. Anyway, I love this video that you made so much, and you're such a wonderful person miss dish. Empathy is truly powerful! And I can never imagine that we can learn so much from a video game like this haha... Keep on making meaningful contents, I'm rooting for u !
So appreciate learning about other's perspectives on stuff like this. It's incredible that a game can bring people together to talk about topics that might not be discussed otherwise. I feel like my world is becoming bigger and we all aren't that different, we're just raised in different standards and normals!
Thank you!!
Mexican born in US here and I had strong negative feelings toward my dad from the time of my parents divorce and I had that for decades just slowly festering in my feelings until my mom decided to intervene this past year and basically made me talk to him. He honestly had no idea I had these feelings because I guess I hid it so well and it was thanks to her we started to open up those channels of communication. I felt the same as you did at the beginning and was gonna get back at my mom but I'm glad now because I was finally able to let go of a lot of resentment I was holding.
as a south asian (2nd gen canadian) this quest was so touching; although i have support from my parents in regards to my career aspirations (probably cuz of them being 1st gen and growing up in the west), with other things i feel like i can never get through to them and theyd never listen to me and i always wish someone would come in and defend me and help change their minds - watching this happen for gaming was so cathartic i sobbed throughout the cutscene of his performance as well as through some of their discussion LMAO
i really appreciate u for being so open minded as well as chat that day for sharing their stories - its so important to recognize how many different lenses things like these can be viewed through, youve made suchhhh an important video dish and i thank u a million times over for it :D
Parents and families always stay in the softest part of your deep heart❤❤❤
As someone who struggles to find the correct words to use when expressing my thoughts/feelings, it was such a good experience not only playing that quest but also watching this video and having someone like you provide deeper insight and perspectives. Hearing you speak about your’s and others’ experiences brought out feelings in me about my parents and my life that I couldn’t quite realize until now (good feelings of course lol). I really do hope for similar vids in the future! Thank you! 🫶🏼
i would really like to have gaming's hangout event. i mean we already have the lantern rite story but i need it so bad
great video! you trying to see it from this perspective and discussing it here may help others understand it better too~ because yeah, as someone who comes from a culture which is very similar to the one in the game here, my experience was very different than some other reactions i saw, but i get it :')
My parents were never stifling and suffocating growing up. To think that people have to deal with the opposite saddens me.
I'm not so present in your streams (because I live in Europe so time wise it's kind of imposible for me ) but I watch VODs or videos of you on YT and let me tell you , your community is so green flag and so warm and it feels so safe to be in . Also I just love your insight on this matter and you are a pure example of if you open your eyes and you listen to people around you you can change opinions on things . I almost cried by the end of the video
gaming is by far the most relatable character for me. being a chinese person especially from a competitive society like hong kong, even if my parents weren't exactly the most stereotypically strict asian parents, i've seen others with parents basically like yip tak, except they're more concerned about the future of their children rather than their safety (since reality doesn't require people to kill monsters lmao). of course, that doesn't mean they don't love their children, they just do it in a different way. it also doesn't help that most of asia is very traditional and are not as progressive as most western cultures, meaning they prioritize success over everything else, including mental health. call me a coward, but i left hong kong to study abroad in new zealand due to the pressure, and the culture shock was massive. it's the same as someone else said in the comments- children not having bright careers with stable income reflects badly on their parenting, for eldest sons like me especially.
all in all, this lantern rite blew my mind and my god i was happy when they announced a character who speaks cantonese, but the story just took it above and beyond. yip ga ming got the 5* treatment.
needless to say i was ugly crying at the ending cinematic lmao
dish your introspective videos that discuss characters (like this gaming video and your baizhu one) and what they mean to people are my favorite. you have a true gift when it comes to connecting us to the character, and then back to each other. you take away the moral lessons and empathy from stories, and then redistribute it to us so that we can take with us in our own lives. thank you for your service
Thank you so much Dish. I'm definitely on the side of playing this quest with tears wishing Zhongli or literally anyone else could talk to my parents on my behave. It was a wonderful quest and I'm so glad you took the time to document this experience that I can go back and remember how I felt while playing this quest and keep hoping for a brighter future. Thank you again!
One of my favorite tropes in movies is overbearing parents on teenaged to young adult kid, and then the more care free life loving aunt or uncle comes to stay with the family for a while, and helps the kid not only understand that the parents are doing what they are doing out of love and care, but also shows the parents they need to loosen up and see that the kid is not just their little clone to mold how they will, but a living, breathing, independent person with their own dreams and aspirations.
Anyways, absolutely loved this Lantern Rite, Liyue ON TOP, building Gaming as we speak.
Thanks for uploading this Miss Dish. It's nice to see other perspectives on this quest and that it gave people hope and helped them feel seen. The parental disconnect in my family comes more from a cycle of abuse than a difference in world views. Mediators have been sought out but conversations have only ever devolved into victimhood contests and denial of past wrongdoing. That combined with years of substance abuse left me seeing this quest as only wishful fantasy. But it was very touching. I think you're right in saying the desire to impress your parents doesn't go away as an adult. And seeing Gaming's pain in his inability to realize that desire was all too real.
i absolutely love this style of video! i would love if you made more like this :)
I really connected with gaming, my parents are pretty supportive but I’m having trouble scraping together the courage to really go after my dream career and seeing gaming working towards the job he loves and making it work was powerful for me
Thank you for sharing as well. As an asian, we also did not understand at first why many people took offense with the quest when we love it so much, so its nice to hear the other perspective.
At the end of this quest, i just cried a lot. I missed my dad so much
Genshin's story has always been touching in the family aspect from the start to finish. For this year lantern right, I find it to be really heartwarming, but I also do admit that I have been uncomfortable in the mid of the story when Xianyun want to help gaming in his family matter. But the more I think about it, the more I can feel related to Gaming. I won't really share my personal experience here, but all I can say is that I do also hope to have people like Xianyun in my life.
Thanks to Dish for making a video of this. It opens to a bigger realization when it comes to different family culture. While it's true that not all Asian family are like that, it's also true that Asian have this tendency to prioritize family than individuality.
I think my relationship with my parents is quite complicated. In the past, my mum did something that was against my trust completely and what I felt as betrayal was her act of love and it took a long time for me to reconcile that and understand fully why she did what she did. I don’t know if I could forgive her for that but yeah. In terms of supportiveness, I feel like I thought my parents were like Ga Ming’s dad at the beginning when I was in high school. I thought they just wanted me to do what all the other kids my age were doing but from their minds they thought they were being supportive. My parents haven’t discouraged me but it felt like because I’m Asian and we’re so closed off from each other and don’t really communicate our feelings openly, we had a lot of misunderstandings between us that have mostly settled down now but things can still be awkward at times.
hi ms dish! i've never commented before but i just wanted to say how beautifully well put together and well spoken this video is. im a white american but i have experienced similar family tensions to gaming's and it means so much to have an outside voice believing in and defending you, like it means the entire world. the quest really choked me up, but i didn't really think too much deeper about it until watching this video. it's so interesting to see how different everyone's interpretations of it was based on their own relationships and experiences. i found your perspective super interesting as it wasn't something that i'd initially think about based on my own experiences, and the lovely chat member who said that we are all complex characters really hit home that no story is completely black and white, not from the writers, nor the viewers. your genuine curiosity to learn other's point of view made me feel all warm inside and honestly inspired me to really try to understand people's hearts even more authentically :) anyways i really loved the video and happy lantern right everyone!!
I loved loved loved this quest. It warmed my heart. I wish i would've gotten Gaming. Such an amazing character
ive experienced every lantern rite , but this one was very special to me, i have a simular issue with my parents in where their expectations of me are different from what i want, and im afraid that branching away from what they want will dissapoint them, but this quest gave me hope that i one day can be supported by my parents for the path i choose, to prove them that i can be great by following the path that makes me happoest, i know this comment is late by like a week but i wanted to share how much i connected with a story quest like this one, and how hopeful it made me of my own future relationship with my own parents, happy lantern rite!
as someone whose initial reaction too on this quest is uncomfort and begging paimon not to pry even further by tellling Gaming's personal conflict to other people,
learning how other people who is in the same dilemma as Gaming wants to somehow receive some help from a third person is so mind opening to me. my first memorable lantern rite indeed!
As a person in a similar situation as Gaming, but from a western background, I had the same reaction as you. Definitely felt like Paimon and us were butting into the situation, and in turn felt very uncomfortable and almost.. targeted? However, I did end up enjoying this quest once I stopped relating it to my situation, as obviously the parent-child culture here was being represented in a completely different way than I experienced. Overall, great quest, and absolutely the best lantern rite!!
I'm someone who never got to grow up with my father around, as he passed away when I was 1 years old. Seeing Gaming and his dad trying to reconcile, and the cutscene where his dad saw his performance, always makes me emotional. Stories about children and their compassionate fathers who might just not find it very easy to communicate their feelings, always make me emotional, and I tend to live vicariously(?) through the children in the stories, because I wish that I had the opportunity to be with my dad for longer. Actually cried most of the later half of this video lmfao
i was very emotional and teared up last minutes of the video too. we actually share the same experience, you're never alone know that :) My father passed away kind of naturally when i'm 7-9 years old. I had such a supportive and loving mom. It was also so hard for her; as she was also left alone but thanks to her and her support i never felt the emptiness in my heart.
Seeing father and child relationships touches me in some way but i don't know what that feeling is. Maybe if i'll ever be a dad, i can give my non-existing child the love they deserve even tho i wasn't able to experience this...
just wanted to share my side of the story since i saw u sharing similar story with me and it made me sad u feeling upset.
@@emranao I've mostly moved on by now. My father passed through taking his own life, so I tend to get triggered when I see funerals of any kind, dedicated to fatherly characters. But I have been attending therapy for a long time, and have gotten significantly better. Seeing father-child relationships makes me emotional because I unfortunately never got to make any memories with my father, but I definitely handle my emotions related to dads much better as of recently. My mother has been amazing throughout my life, and my older brother has been great as well, so I grew up in a safe familial situation. Just took until recently to come to terms with the fact I will never get to experience having a bond with my dad.
I'm glad you had a great mother as well, and if you ever become a parent, I'm sure you'll be great
When I first watched this video, I had no idea what to say. I didn't even realize people didn't like/were uncomfortable with this quest because I loved it so much. But I got a chance to think about it on another post on HoyoLab, so I'll copy-paste what I said there.
I don't think the takeaway was supposed to be "meddle in other people's affairs because it's the right thing to do!" Out of all the plans, the only thing that really worked was getting Yip Tak to meet Zhongli and that was unplanned. Everything else was largely unsuccessful and transparent, and Yip Tak's change of heart could be considered independent of the intended meddling altogether.
I personally am in a similar situation to Ga Ming (but without the success) so I'm very attached to his story quest. But it's not just the "unrealistic" ending or the comedy of the supporting cast that make me like it.
It's the emotions between Yip Tak and Ga Ming, Xianyun and Shenhe, Zhongli and Xiao, of Parent and Child. Many parent-child conflicts are born out of poor communication and will die unresolved with broken relationships. But Ga Ming and Yip Tak's wasn't broken, not yet. Ga Ming loves his dad and wants to have a relationship with him, he just lost hope that he could. Lots of people resonate with that exact feeling. And for those people, I believe our takeaway was in the hope of their resolution. That our parents DO understand us, they're just too afraid for us, and when they can overcome that fear the people we love will be ready to rejoin our lives.
It's not for everyone and it's not supposed to be, and that's okay.
I hope you'll see this though I know chances are slim, but I do really appreciate you delving even deeper into what this quest had you process in its Own video separate from the lantern rite playthrough. & yes, I glad to say you really have cultivated a respectful community
I went through the same process, I felt so uncomfortable at first and by halfway through I was crying my heart out especially the cutscene and the hug 🥺
I was never closed with my dad, he never believed in my passion for art. He passed away 8 years ago, I didn't thgouht about him for so long until this quest.. I am a pretty big artist on Instagram now! It made me wonder if he would be proud..
This lantern rite really invoke such deep and complex conversion.
Thank you for talking about it, we need more of those discussions
Thank you for the great video. As someone who isn't really into the quest, i hope there is another perspective of me that can be seen by dish and anyone else. As for me, the quest is well-written, touching, and ofc it's good to see Gaming and his father get the harmony together.
However, when i compared it with my own experiences, it couldn't feel the same way. As an Asian, my parents (like others) do not have a term of "my child has its own dream" or any kind of thing like that. And yes, i once shared the same struggle where i tried to get my parents to understand me. tbh it's not ideal like in the story. It's important to realise whether the parents want their child to follow their words becuz of "what's best for the child" or the parent just can't handle the idea of "she/he is out of my control". Some parents can not stand for their kids having their own lives, having their own things that may be better than them. Since they r too over about themselves, they dont see their kids as an individual, but something to fulfill their needs and follow whatever they say. I believe parental conflict can only happen when both parties see the problem and wanna fix it together, like Gaming and his father, and they just need a push to get things work (like Traveler, Paimon, RC, and Zhongli). If family is such a toxic place, its better to just cut them off and leave, since that may be the best way to protect yourself.
Me realize even if Zhongli actually showed up, they wouldnt listen to any single words he say and just told him to leave lmao well, i chose to leave with Zhongli btw
i really appreaciate this conversation and i wanted to weigh in as well!
i personally initially also disliked the quest, and it was also stemming form my own experience: i am also from a more eastern culture and have an estranged relationship with my family. i was always a high achiever and trying to please them, but "perfect" was seen as a default, and anything even slightly less as a tremendous failure. growing up, i, too, wished there was someone who could just tell them that they are being unreasonable - but, to make matters worse, people were doing that! i was your typical straight-A's goody-two-shoes kid, so there were many adults/authority figures that would constantly tell my family how proud they should be of me and my accomplishments, yet it was almost as if they (my family) would take those "compliments" as praises about themselves and their parenting, not even hearing the crux. it got to a point where i realized nothing i do or anyone says would ever change their mind. i wish this story had a happier ending, but unfortunately, my family is still estranged and unwilling to listen to my grievances about the past or present.
however!! what i really want to say is that my mind about the quest changed when i realized that ga ming's situation is what i wished could've happened to me! while doing the quest, i was a bit stuck in my own bitterness, but seeing it from this point of view made me really happy because i got to see a reality (albeit fictional lol but still stemming from the real world) that these things *could* actually change some parent's mind! and how wonderful and hopeful that is! I really hope that more kids who are struggling with this get to experience this shift. ❤
@dish, thanks so much for this video. It’s beautiful to see someone open their heart to understand and carry the stories of others. Your commentary actually made me laugh a bit because I realized I had the same reaction in reverse to your podcast with your dad from a few years back. I was amazed that someone could actually have such a good relationship with their parents and I actually cried a few times listening to how supportive and encouraging your dad was in those episodes… I couldn’t imagine my own parents trusting in my decisions or truly being proud of me at any point in my life. I remember telling my husband how shocked I was that this kind of family could exist and how encouraging it was to see someone bloom into an adult who’s unapologetically happy, free, empathetic, and secure in their beliefs. It gave me hope that the standards we were setting for our own little family were really going to be fruitful and that we wouldn’t ever recreate the deep brokenness we were both raised in. I related so much to this quest and I loved that it ended with reconciliation, even though that’s sadly so rare these days. Thank you for making the space for us to share our stories and to consider the differences among all of us. ❤
if i ever has to associate myself with the part of any one genshin youtube that would be dish because she values small and intricate details more than just spiral abyss and gacha, her account feels warm and welcoming and validating, I'm happy for you dish :)
The metaphor of children being kites that need distance to properly fly reminds me a lot of a comment my mom made: children are like birds, and when you hold them back, you're clipping their wings so they can no longer fly.
I've always been by my mom's side, and am likely one of the only kids she has that will actively maintain contact with her, because her parenting style changed so much over the years. Initially, I was raised to be sheltered; couldn't attend sleepovers, couldn't be out too late, and always had to keep an eye on my younger brother so I rarely left the house. At this time, she was emotionally closed off and couldn't understand why I was such an emotional kid (I'm starting to suspect that I''ve had undiagnosed ADHD and boy has rejection sensitivity always kicked my ass). I'm 21 now and going through that quest was a rush of emotions, and it made me reflect a lot on seeing that own change within my mom (being stubborn at first, but gradually warming up and accepting change). It was a similar response to completing Act 5 of Fontaine's Archon Quest- incredibly emotional, but sweet. It's definitely a lot to process, but I'm glad Hoyo is moving in this direction and tackling more emotional narratives, because they've been executed so well. It makes me excited to see what future storylines have in store for us as audience members, and what more they might tackle with the characters we encounter next.
Idk why this quest felt so emotional for me considering my family situation is pretty good. Of course we are humans and we make mistakes, but I think I have a great relationship with my parents. It really made me feel weird that I like wanted to cry after the quest because of the relatability. I don't really know why I felt like crying. I can relate to having someone say something to my parents who sees something they don't see. I've appreciated some people like saying things to parents. I'm a very artistic person who just wants to do what I was meant to do! So when other people believe in me it means a lot. Like I know there's a plan for my life, and sometimes I feel like my parents don't see what I'm meant to do. I'm so thankful to God that my parents have raised me with so much love, but my parents are not perfect. Also seeing Shenhe looking at the father and his daughter is such a good detail! Genuinely, I loved this quest so much, and I think it's my favorite lantern Rite quest!
Thank you so much for making this video. I cried a lot during this Lantern Rite and I did actually cry in the middle of your video as you shared what your viewers said and also how your thoughts changed. I'm Filipino American and Yip Tak said near similar things to what my parents have said to me and my siblings. It wasn't about taking over a family business, but about going into a field that they approved of because they wanted to make sure that we would be able to support ourselves in the future, but they didn't think about the things that we loved and were passionate about. We didn't have any older parental or authority figure step in for us. My older sister had to do it all herself and the actions that she took make our parents understand how much we wanted to be able to do our own thing and they came to accept it. Not the exact same thing that GaMing went through, but mine and my siblings' relationship with our parents improved greatly after that. Thank you so much for taking the time to talk with your viewers and hearing out their stories to understand a side that you're not familiar with. Cultural differences are huge and it's so easy to sit down and listen and learn. I also appreciated your perspective because I am well aware of it too since I have plenty of friends that would find the situation in this story different and a bit weird because they're not of my culture or other cultures / families that go through similar things.
Definitely, its heartfelt and it hits real close to home. Both of my parents are from Guadalajara, MX and their beliefs were work with your body and not your mind. it took a lot of "discussions" to break that kind of thinking.