Ok, now can we finally have Elias finding out the truth? Miska meant well helping Lari, Lari means well not exposing Miska, Isabella means well trying to help Elias, Elias means well trying to convince himself he is not in love with Lari... man, everyone has good intentions/feelings here but this is a mess, anyway!!!!! LOL thanks Missy!
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Yes it's like everyone is trying to do the right thing but everyone is doing the opposite in reality and only making the mess twice bigger :/
Elias' Story And making the story better all the time. Sometimes we are silly and fail to see true love right before us. Just for everyone to be honest would be a good thing in the end. Elias does not know - but, he wants any excuse to go back to Lari and when he finds out everything - then Lari will be back = excitement every day.
Isabella actually reminds me a lot of Sami in DOOL... They all went crazy when they sensed something might go wrong. But deep down they all have pretty good intentions. I guess those types of characters are writers' favorites and made for soaps all around the world.
I don't understand why so many people keep saying that Elias is denying that he loves Lari, When did he ever say that he didn't? Its always been clear at least to me that he has always been very much in love with Lari. And still is. All Elias has ever said is that its over between him and Lari, how long that last, who knows? I don't think that Elias is in denial, neither is he trying to convince himself either. Elias has always known where his true passions lay. He didn't leave Lari because he stopped loving him, he left because he stopped allowing Lari to hurt him. The fact that Elias is struggling with his feeling for Lari, is not so much a revelation as such, but the daunting reminder of what he's known to be true. It simply confirms what he's always known. In the last episode Elias actually said that he love's Miska. The fact that he very much still love's Lari doesn't mean that his love for Miska may not be real. I certainly don't believe its as deep not as strong as what he had with Lari, but none the less, he is falling for Miska.
You are correct that Elias knows he is still in love with Lari, but I do think he is denying how deep that love is compared to Miska. Life has been quite pleasant with Miska, but it never matched the passion of the good times with Lari. Elisa needs to put into perspective all that Lari has been through and understand that those same obstacles will no longer be in their way, should they choose to get back together. Maybe Lari will finally be brave enough to live an open life with Elias, where they can better work out their day-to-day relationship challenges. Ha ... there I go, wishful thinking again!! Good stuff.
that was kind of crappy of Lari to make that vague statement about Miska. yes, Miska did help Lari behind Elias' back, but Lari made it seem like Miska was hiding something terrible from Elias. also, i used to hate Isabella. now i find myself liking her alot. she doesn't always go about things the best way, but what she does, she does because she really seems to care about Elias. and Sebastian & Oliver. AND she has been VERY supportive of Elias & all his Lari issues. i mean, it was her idea for Elias to visit Lari at the "remove the gay" camp, and while that may not have turned out the way Elias had wanted, it did, at least, move their relationship forward to a conclusion, AND her idea, also, led to Sebastion having the chance to defend his son & state publicly that his son was perfectly fine the way he is. yep, i like Isabella.
I agree, Isabella has the best intentions and she only went after Miska because Lari made those stupid comments. Of course everyone here is conveniently forgetting about that.
I agree with Elias he can take care of himself,he doesn't need anybody's interference.I think the longer Elias is together with Miska he will realize he can't forget Lari.I feel he is trying to fight his feelings and run away from the truth.I'm loving Lari so much getting away from IIkka and now having to deal Isabella and not backing down.I hope Lari can find a job and have some good luck come his way:)
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Elias didn't sound happy finding out Isabella had done something behind his back. When he finds out that is only the top of the iceberg and there's much more going on behind his back by Isabella, his dad and even his boyfriend he trusts, he's gonna flip.
Elias' Story Why is Miska's helping Lari & keeping his promise to Lari not to tell Elias such a big deal? Helping someone is good. Keeping your promise is good. Yes, Elias would have liked to know, but It was up to Lari to tell him about his situation, not Miska. My reaction if I were Elias would be: "I wish you'd told me." That's all.
Imo I have to disagree. Whether we like it or not at present lari and elias owe each other nothing because they are not together so lari doesn't have a duty to tell him anything really about his life and vise versa. Miska was brilliant helping lari but never lie to your man for their ex . Miska should tell elias even if lari never does.
alwaysuseless You're right - but, of course, Miska's charity wasn't totally altruistic, either. He helped Lari hoping to remove the threat posed by the possibility of Elias finding out Lari's situation. With all that said, now that Lari is off the streets, Miska is digging his grave deeper and deeper by not telling Elias that he knows Lari and what he did to help him. Too bad, I really like Miska and believe he's good for Elias. Unfortunately, even beautiful boys like Miska can be insecure - maybe more so because they're never sure if they're only appreciated for their looks. I think he's just as afraid of losing Elias to Lari as Lari was about coming out. Sadly, it looks like Miska will be the loser in the end because of his own insecurity. Still, I don't know if Elias will end up with Lari.
Sometimes Isabella seems to be a bit Sami-like. You know, from Days? They have that same insane protective instinct, which makes them do crazy things with the intention of helping, but really only hurting the people they're trying to protect...
So what I don't understand is Lari's comment to Isabella that "the issue is a bilateral one between the two of them. Not me." What does that mean??? Is he trying to stir something up? Why didn't he just say that Miska helped me once when I needed it and so I want to respect his relationship with Elias ... man, the plot gets thicker here. Perhaps this will die down once Isabella learns the truth, though I still don't understand what Lari meant by the statement.
***** If in fact there's some hidden truth Lari know's about Miska, it certainly has not been revealed to the viewing audience. For that matter, its pure speculation on all parts to suggest so. If Lari know's something, what is it? I think that to often the viewers read far more into these episodes, then whats actually there. As for Miska, we all know that no one is perfect, he's got his issues as well. The problem is that we've just not seen them, which is OK with me. What have you seen that would suggest Lari know's something about Miska? Miska doesn't seem to be overly obsessive about Elias. It was totally natural for Miska to ask Lari what his intentions are for Elias. He was calm and respectful to Lari when he asked. Lari didn't seem the slightest offended nor did he feed threatened. Actually, thanks to Miska's show of kindness and compassion, they are respectful to each other. I think that Elias should be pleased to know that Miska doesn't have a chip on his shoulder. That Miska doesn't feel nor come off as overly threatened by Lari. If anything, it wont be Lari that will make a move on Elias,. I think that Elias longing for Lari will cause him to miss things up. Elias will somehow seek out Lari's attention. The strength of Elias love and longing for Lari will eventually drive him back to Lari. Of course we all know that this will first begin secretly. Just my Opinion.
I'm glad elias said im a big boy. Everyone let him make his on choices whether right or wrong. Advice him yes but keep secrets from him, interfer behind his back no! He is not made from cotton wool
I have noticed that writers for soaps make most woman out to be controlling, manipulative and bitchy. It doesn't matter what country or in what language. I personally have never met one that is that bad.
how comes we're far more angry with Isabella than any of the guys here? Lari, Miska, Sebastian and especially Elias have good reason to tell her to F right off but no-one does. I suppose Lari is still vulnerable from his homeless days but good on him for not taking the money.
well then, the truth is out. so it's up to the three of them whether to tell elias the whole story. poor lari. can see that on his face. had to go away and set elias free. will elias allow this to happen? can't wait for the next epiosdes. thank you by the way.
+sonoki82 If in fact there's some hidden truth Lari know's about Miska, it certainly has not been revealed to the viewing audience. For that matter, its pure speculation on all parts to suggest so. If Lari know's something, what is it? I think that to often the viewers read far more into these episodes, then whats actually there. As for Miska, we all know that no one is perfect, he's got his issues as well. The problem is that we've just not seen them, which is OK with me. What have you seen that would suggest Lari know's something about Miska? Miska doesn't seem to be overly obsessive about Elias. It was totally natural for Miska to ask Lari what his intentions are for Elias. He was calm and respectful to Lari when he asked. Lari didn't seem the slightest offended nor did he feed threatened. Actually, thanks to Miska's show of kindness and compassion, they are respectful to each other. I think that Elias should be pleased to know that Miska doesn't have a chip on his shoulder. That Miska doesn't feel nor come off as overly threatened by Lari. If anything, it wont be Lari that will make a move on Elias,. I think that Elias longing for Lari will cause him to miss things up. Elias will somehow seek out Lari's attention. The strength of Elias love and longing for Lari will eventually drive him back to Lari. Of course we all know that this will first begin secretly. Just my Opinion.
for one hope that you'er not right. First of all there's just no indication of any dark side currently in Miska's character. I'm not saying that it can't or wont turn out that way, for all we know it very well could,.. But seriously, there just no evidence of that right now. Plus Elias has himself questioned that. He even thought that Miska just couldn't be this perfect. I do however believe that there could actually be a showdown between Lari and Miska, and maybe a nasty one at that. But not because Miska has some hidden or secret evil disposition, or laden agenda no one knows about. I feel he will do what anyone would do, if they felt someone was after their man. Namely, Fight Back, It doesn't look like Miska is a pushover. He's one of the few confident young character's one the show. And the most mature out of the kids in this program. Lari will hardly chase Miska away without a fight. No, I don't think that Miska has a hidden dark side lurking to come out. I just think that he will respond in anger no different then anyone else. Lari just may find out that Miska is not one of those kids he can bully nor push around. Miska is the real deal, no hidden agenda's, no abnormal character development issue's, no dark side. Why can't we just let Elias enjoy this perfect guy he has? Why can't Miska simply be who he claims to be? I could be wrong, only time will tell.
i want lari to get a boyfriend so that elias will see what he is mising seeing that he sais he is over lari and get so vex about ilisebel witch he has a point is non of her bisnes. but i give miska wrong you help lari that nice not everyone can do that but why the lie still elias already know that lari was liveng on the street he talk to you so tell him you help lari he is already in proper care at katarina place. so why the lie continue what are you so afraid of? you help his ex there nothing wrong in that.what that is wrong is you are not coming cleen and now everybody knows at the home and he is in the dark he will feel betray by you like he is an ass.everybody is talking about him but not to him.
The difference between the way katarina and isabella help elias are like world's apart
You know it's a good day, when MissFin uploads a video :-)
Ok, now can we finally have Elias finding out the truth? Miska meant well helping Lari, Lari means well not exposing Miska, Isabella means well trying to help Elias, Elias means well trying to convince himself he is not in love with Lari... man, everyone has good intentions/feelings here but this is a mess, anyway!!!!! LOL thanks Missy!
Yes it's like everyone is trying to do the right thing but everyone is doing the opposite in reality and only making the mess twice bigger :/
Elias' Story And making the story better all the time. Sometimes we are silly and fail to see true love right before us. Just for everyone to be honest would be a good thing in the end. Elias does not know - but, he wants any excuse to go back to Lari and when he finds out everything - then Lari will be back = excitement every day.
It is that saying the road to hell is paved with good intentions
Uiiuy
Isabella actually reminds me a lot of Sami in DOOL... They all went crazy when they sensed something might go wrong. But deep down they all have pretty good intentions. I guess those types of characters are writers' favorites and made for soaps all around the world.
I don't understand why so many people keep saying that Elias is denying that he loves Lari, When did he ever say that he didn't? Its always been clear at least to me that he has always been very much in love with Lari. And still is. All Elias has ever said is that its over between him and Lari, how long that last, who knows? I don't think that Elias is in denial, neither is he trying to convince himself either. Elias has always known where his true passions lay. He didn't leave Lari because he stopped loving him, he left because he stopped allowing Lari to hurt him. The fact that Elias is struggling with his feeling for Lari, is not so much a revelation as such, but the daunting reminder of what he's known to be true. It simply confirms what he's always known. In the last episode Elias actually said that he love's Miska. The fact that he very much still love's Lari doesn't mean that his love for Miska may not be real. I certainly don't believe its as deep not as strong as what he had with Lari, but none the less, he is falling for Miska.
You are correct that Elias knows he is still in love with Lari, but I do think he is denying how deep that love is compared to Miska. Life has been quite pleasant with Miska, but it never matched the passion of the good times with Lari. Elisa needs to put into perspective all that Lari has been through and understand that those same obstacles will no longer be in their way, should they choose to get back together. Maybe Lari will finally be brave enough to live an open life with Elias, where they can better work out their day-to-day relationship challenges. Ha ... there I go, wishful thinking again!! Good stuff.
CARL: I agree 100% on everything you just exposed. Elias is deeply in love Lari. However, he has feelings of a lesser degree for Miska.
that was kind of crappy of Lari to make that vague statement about Miska. yes, Miska did help Lari behind Elias' back, but Lari made it seem like Miska was hiding something terrible from Elias.
also, i used to hate Isabella. now i find myself liking her alot. she doesn't always go about things the best way, but what she does, she does because she really seems to care about Elias. and Sebastian & Oliver. AND she has been VERY supportive of Elias & all his Lari issues. i mean, it was her idea for Elias to visit Lari at the "remove the gay" camp, and while that may not have turned out the way Elias had wanted, it did, at least, move their relationship forward to a conclusion, AND her idea, also, led to Sebastion having the chance to defend his son & state publicly that his son was perfectly fine the way he is.
yep, i like Isabella.
I agree, Isabella has the best intentions and she only went after Miska because Lari made those stupid comments. Of course everyone here is conveniently forgetting about that.
I agree with Elias he can take care of himself,he doesn't need anybody's interference.I think the longer Elias is together with Miska he will realize he can't forget Lari.I feel he is trying to fight his feelings and run away from the truth.I'm loving Lari so much getting away from IIkka and now having to deal Isabella and not backing down.I hope Lari can find a job and have some good luck come his way:)
Elias didn't sound happy finding out Isabella had done something behind his back. When he finds out that is only the top of the iceberg and there's much more going on behind his back by Isabella, his dad and even his boyfriend he trusts, he's gonna flip.
Elias' Story But,are we sure Lari wants back Elias?All is asserting it .Would be a sweet revenge!
Elias' Story Why is Miska's helping Lari & keeping his promise to Lari not to tell Elias such a big deal? Helping someone is good. Keeping your promise is good. Yes, Elias would have liked to know, but It was up to Lari to tell him about his situation, not Miska. My reaction if I were Elias would be: "I wish you'd told me." That's all.
Imo I have to disagree. Whether we like it or not at present lari and elias owe each other nothing because they are not together so lari doesn't have a duty to tell him anything really about his life and vise versa. Miska was brilliant helping lari but never lie to your man for their ex . Miska should tell elias even if lari never does.
alwaysuseless You're right - but, of course, Miska's charity wasn't totally altruistic, either. He helped Lari hoping to remove the threat posed by the possibility of Elias finding out Lari's situation. With all that said, now that Lari is off the streets, Miska is digging his grave deeper and deeper by not telling Elias that he knows Lari and what he did to help him. Too bad, I really like Miska and believe he's good for Elias. Unfortunately, even beautiful boys like Miska can be insecure - maybe more so because they're never sure if they're only appreciated for their looks. I think he's just as afraid of losing Elias to Lari as Lari was about coming out. Sadly, it looks like Miska will be the loser in the end because of his own insecurity. Still, I don't know if Elias will end up with Lari.
I love Isabella! that woman is ferocious. like an eagle that would do anything to protect its young
Sometimes Isabella seems to be a bit Sami-like. You know, from Days? They have that same insane protective instinct, which makes them do crazy things with the intention of helping, but really only hurting the people they're trying to protect...
The more I see Isabella, the more I think she's a little crazy.
she's been in an asylum, I believe.
corvus13 no it was a gymnasium...
tyamada21 she has a brown belt that she is planning to get painted in rainbow colours
tyamada21
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tyamada21 :-))))
Come on people, can't you see, Miska is nothing but a rebound-guy.
Poor Elias, everybody's just hide from him something, even his father.
I never thought I would feel sorry 4 Lari, but I do.
Isabella näköjään tykkää tarjota rahaa kaikille
So what I don't understand is Lari's comment to Isabella that "the issue is a bilateral one between the two of them. Not me." What does that mean??? Is he trying to stir something up? Why didn't he just say that Miska helped me once when I needed it and so I want to respect his relationship with Elias ... man, the plot gets thicker here. Perhaps this will die down once Isabella learns the truth, though I still don't understand what Lari meant by the statement.
yeah, that made no sense.
***** If in fact there's some hidden truth Lari know's about Miska, it certainly has not been revealed to the viewing audience. For that matter, its pure speculation on all parts to suggest so. If Lari know's something, what is it? I think that to often the viewers read far more into these episodes, then whats actually there. As for Miska, we all know that no one is perfect, he's got his issues as well. The problem is that we've just not seen them, which is OK with me. What have you seen that would suggest Lari know's something about Miska? Miska doesn't seem to be overly obsessive about Elias. It was totally natural for Miska to ask Lari what his intentions are for Elias. He was calm and respectful to Lari when he asked. Lari didn't seem the slightest offended nor did he feed threatened. Actually, thanks to Miska's show of kindness and compassion, they are respectful to each other. I think that Elias should be pleased to know that Miska doesn't have a chip on his shoulder. That Miska doesn't feel nor come off as overly threatened by Lari. If anything, it wont be Lari that will make a move on Elias,. I think that Elias longing for Lari will cause him to miss things up. Elias will somehow seek out Lari's attention. The strength of Elias love and longing for Lari will eventually drive him back to Lari. Of course we all know that this will first begin secretly. Just my Opinion.
Thanks for upload video i speak Finnish but awesome :)
Saakelin Jonne :D
I'm glad elias said im a big boy. Everyone let him make his on choices whether right or wrong. Advice him yes but keep secrets from him, interfer behind his back no! He is not made from cotton wool
I have noticed that writers for soaps make most woman out to be controlling, manipulative and bitchy. It doesn't matter what country or in what language. I personally have never met one that is that bad.
Well you haven't seen Indian soaps women ... they are EXTRA... after seeing that Isabella will look like an angel..
how comes we're far more angry with Isabella than any of the guys here? Lari, Miska, Sebastian and especially Elias have good reason to tell her to F right off but no-one does. I suppose Lari is still vulnerable from his homeless days but good on him for not taking the money.
Isabella needs to take a good step back and look at her actions. WOW
So this mysterious (and purportedly "straight") hunk Jonne returns in Part 243. What are you up to, Miska? Elias' story part 243
los que hablan en Español y se quieran ver esta increible serie dejenme saberlo ya se que canal lo esta traducendo
Why have the writers not found a new boyfriend for Lari?
Warte nur.....
DAMN isabella. u fight for your babies.
well then, the truth is out. so it's up to the three of them whether to tell elias the whole story. poor lari. can see that on his face. had to go away and set elias free. will elias allow this to happen? can't wait for the next epiosdes. thank you by the way.
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ty introst (: ia jees
Guess Elias' dad is n for it tomorrow!! In the south we would call her a busybody who needs to get a life
COOL
jonne xD
nii se on jonne siis kun kuuli sen niin olin niin xD
Mun isoveljen nimi on Jonne:D
Hey what did Lari mean that there is something wrong between Miska & Elias?
iha hyvä
+sonoki82 If in fact there's some hidden truth Lari know's about Miska, it certainly has not been revealed to the viewing audience. For that matter, its pure speculation on all parts to suggest so. If Lari know's something, what is it? I think that to often the viewers read far more into these episodes, then whats actually there. As for Miska, we all know that no one is perfect, he's got his issues as well. The problem is that we've just not seen them, which is OK with me. What have you seen that would suggest Lari know's something about Miska? Miska doesn't seem to be overly obsessive about Elias. It was totally natural for Miska to ask Lari what his intentions are for Elias. He was calm and respectful to Lari when he asked. Lari didn't seem the slightest offended nor did he feed threatened. Actually, thanks to Miska's show of kindness and compassion, they are respectful to each other. I think that Elias should be pleased to know that Miska doesn't have a chip on his shoulder. That Miska doesn't feel nor come off as overly threatened by Lari. If anything, it wont be Lari that will make a move on Elias,. I think that Elias longing for Lari will cause him to miss things up. Elias will somehow seek out Lari's attention. The strength of Elias love and longing for Lari will eventually drive him back to Lari. Of course we all know that this will first begin secretly. Just my Opinion.
Isabella should stay out of Lari anad Elias personal relationship cause in the end has nothing to do with her and is not her business anyway.
i dont think she is gone tell elias
Isabella take care of your stuff ! Gosh, i don't like her. *-*
not sure about her yet -
for one hope that you'er not right. First of all there's just no indication of any dark side currently in Miska's character. I'm not saying that it can't or wont turn out that way, for all we know it very well could,.. But seriously, there just no evidence of that right now. Plus Elias has himself questioned that. He even thought that Miska just couldn't be this perfect. I do however believe that there could actually be a showdown between Lari and Miska, and maybe a nasty one at that. But not because Miska has some hidden or secret evil disposition, or laden agenda no one knows about. I feel he will do what anyone would do, if they felt someone was after their man. Namely, Fight Back, It doesn't look like Miska is a pushover. He's one of the few confident young character's one the show. And the most mature out of the kids in this program. Lari will hardly chase Miska away without a fight. No, I don't think that Miska has a hidden dark side lurking to come out. I just think that he will respond in anger no different then anyone else. Lari just may find out that Miska is not one of those kids he can bully nor push around. Miska is the real deal, no hidden agenda's, no abnormal character development issue's, no dark side. Why can't we just let Elias enjoy this perfect guy he has? Why can't Miska simply be who he claims to be? I could be wrong, only time will tell.
älä kuvaa bandicamil obs o best
Jonne is cute
täst rahajutusta tulee vaa enemmän mielee miro ja oona :)
What the hell is wrong with her?
i want lari to get a boyfriend so that elias will see what he is mising seeing that he sais he is over lari and get so vex about ilisebel witch he has a point is non of her bisnes. but i give miska wrong you help lari that nice not everyone can do that but why the lie still elias already know that lari was liveng on the street he talk to you so tell him you help lari he is already in proper care at katarina place. so why the lie continue what are you so afraid of? you help his ex there nothing wrong in that.what that is wrong is you are not coming cleen and now everybody knows at the home and he is in the dark he will feel betray by you like he is an ass.everybody is talking about him but not to him.
I honestly think what you have just said is astramantertical to the extreme!
Oon jo iso poika😂
Isabella, get on with your own business.
intro biisi nimi
Jonne is Miska ex-boyfriend
tiiä su salikse arvasin se
siis en ole
Who is this horrible Jonne?
I don't think he's horrible! Not as cute as the others, but ok. I miss the gang getting together with Janne's lousy jokes & Tale's dippy ideas!
Susan Kirkland Embry Maybe you did not realize it was a joke?