Mascot Characters Don't Have to Suck! (But A LOT of Them Do)

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  • @TheDigitalApple
    @TheDigitalApple Місяць тому +1170

    Remember the golden rule, mascots that want to appeal to everyone end up appealing to no one!

    • @Harrymation-productions
      @Harrymation-productions Місяць тому +87

      Like being everyone’s friend.
      when you’re everyone’s friend you’re no one’s best friend.

    • @RockNRollHorrorshow
      @RockNRollHorrorshow Місяць тому +16

      That goes for everything honestly

    • @jor1469
      @jor1469 Місяць тому +19

      That reminds me of people trying to appeal to everyone to video games.

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 Місяць тому +6

      You have seen the popularity of minions haven't you

    • @mattwo7
      @mattwo7 Місяць тому +9

      @@RockNRollHorrorshow "When everyone's super, no one is!"

  • @WDonaldson2000
    @WDonaldson2000 Місяць тому +783

    “Ok class, what’s the mascot character in Ice Age?”
    Everyone: Scrat!
    Just Stop: THE BABY!

    • @MforMovesets
      @MforMovesets Місяць тому +44

      It's like online reviewers are overrated and their credibility shouldn't be judged by the amount of views, yet we just watch it because UA-cam is mostly garbage these days, right?

    • @snowhunter7536
      @snowhunter7536 Місяць тому +107

      Here’s a better question: how the hell can you call Roshan (aka Ice Age Baby) a mascot character? He’s more like a Chekov gun or a MacGuffin.

    • @mythcat1273
      @mythcat1273 Місяць тому

      I think that's looking a little too far into it bro​@@MforMovesets

    • @madengineerkyouma
      @madengineerkyouma Місяць тому +5

      @@MforMovesets Try watching Ojamajo Doremi, it's the only show I've ever seen that writes a baby character right.

    • @madengineerkyouma
      @madengineerkyouma Місяць тому +5

      @@MforMovesets You missed out, I also thought it was going to be trash when that happened, but it's actually even better than the previous season.

  • @cordyceps7531
    @cordyceps7531 Місяць тому +325

    I also wasn’t sad when Bing Bong died, but he’s not a mascot. He’s a side character who’s somewhat relevant to the plot.

    • @pawnhearts8785
      @pawnhearts8785 Місяць тому +66

      And he also doesn't suck because he's actually well-written.

    • @abhainn35
      @abhainn35 Місяць тому +27

      I found Bing Bong to be annoying so yeah, his death didn't leave much of an impact either. But does Inside Out even have a "mascot character"? They all seem to get about the same level of marketability.

    • @SkullZie
      @SkullZie Місяць тому +7

      ​​@@abhainn35
      Anxiety is Inside out 2 is extremely marketable rn with all her merch, it was such a good design that she got alot of ppl to like her but she isnt the mascot.
      But nobody in inside out is more or less something since they are all apart of one persons head
      I would say Riley is the Mascot/Main Character honestly, but it all feels pretty complicated to figure out

  • @dravenmartinez6311
    @dravenmartinez6311 Місяць тому +692

    I am still mad that rayman was replaced by the rabbids

    • @Picccles_hates-dbl
      @Picccles_hates-dbl Місяць тому +15

      Most north pole type take in existence

    • @dravenmartinez6311
      @dravenmartinez6311 Місяць тому +58

      @@Picccles_hates-dbl what does that even mean

    • @joelbrich2538
      @joelbrich2538 Місяць тому +48

      ​@dravenmartinez6311 I think that was their way of saying it was a common/cold take maybe?

    • @arrythestarry
      @arrythestarry Місяць тому +18

      It still burns me too the betas for rayman 4 looked so cool

    • @staringcorgi6475
      @staringcorgi6475 Місяць тому +6

      But he had one of the best 2d platformers of the decade so it isn’t all bad with rayman

  • @SouthernGothicYT
    @SouthernGothicYT Місяць тому +997

    imo the little green aliens from Toy Story were the OG minions

    • @Hecuba107
      @Hecuba107 Місяць тому +145

      At least they were not as parasitic.

    • @EliasValadez-pu1iq
      @EliasValadez-pu1iq Місяць тому +111

      Yeah and didn’t become the core of the franchise which focused on growing with its audience and putting its characters through actual development and changes that have an impact.

    • @dabatman5187
      @dabatman5187 Місяць тому +76

      They never became parasites. In fact they kinda got better

    • @kaxcommentssomethingREAL
      @kaxcommentssomethingREAL Місяць тому +62

      casually saved the lives of our cast in a crucial moment...
      fuck yeah, these little space aliens rock!

    • @jatarokemuri5443
      @jatarokemuri5443 Місяць тому +25

      There were only like three aliens that ended up as recurring, and I don’t remember them driving away from the story for whacky hijinks.

  • @ItsAK9
    @ItsAK9 Місяць тому +272

    Perrito isn't a mascot. He's just him.

  • @Goat81093
    @Goat81093 Місяць тому +181

    I agree but Bingbong feels more like a side character then a mascot one. I personally don't count him as part of the "mascots are annoying" conversation

  • @pawnhearts8785
    @pawnhearts8785 Місяць тому +810

    Bing Bong does not deserve to be dismissed as a "mascot character who sucks". He is very well-written, utilized well within the narrative, and represents the innocent and childish part of Riley. Him disappearing is a representation of Riley growing up. He is absolutely integral.

    • @embrixcandray6073
      @embrixcandray6073 Місяць тому +173

      I DO NOT stand for this Bing Bong hate.

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Місяць тому +183

      @@embrixcandray6073 I hesitate to even call Bing Bong a mascot, he feels more like a side character. I think Fear and Anger are more recognizable than Bing bong.
      Since the purpose of a mascot is to be most recognizable character from a story.

    • @ameliahenry8807
      @ameliahenry8807 Місяць тому +73

      Right?!! I was so confused when he lumped Bing Bong in here

    • @TheAlexSchmidt
      @TheAlexSchmidt Місяць тому +91

      I feel like a great indication of why Bing Bong isn't a mascot is that he barely showed up in the marketing before the movie came out. Like the Minions and Olaf were given a lot of focus since I imagine the studio knew they would be popular

    • @marabasilone3642
      @marabasilone3642 Місяць тому +42

      Yes, and if he was really there to just be marketable they wouldn't have killed him off, he should not be in the same category as Olaf now HE was annoying asf

  • @turtswing
    @turtswing Місяць тому +157

    Bing Bong didn't struggle with being forgotten by Riley by virtue of being the symbol of her childhood she was growing out of just for being dismissed as a "mild annoyance".
    By fading away, he does have the symbolic purpose to show Riley's growth.

  • @theotherjared9824
    @theotherjared9824 Місяць тому +475

    No one has the balls to make mascots protagonists anymore. They would have to give them a real personality, which would complicate the marketing.

    • @devonjeffers5898
      @devonjeffers5898 Місяць тому +71

      Correction, no one in Hollywood has the balls to make mascot protags anymore.

    • @Simbala-bq5vy
      @Simbala-bq5vy Місяць тому +21

      True. It sometimes work making the side character a protagonist and give them they're own movie like Timon and pumbaa but the minions? Hell naw!

    • @chobies5383
      @chobies5383 Місяць тому +42

      We need more Kirby-like characters

    • @zacharysousa898
      @zacharysousa898 Місяць тому +4

      @@chobies5383No.

    • @Romapolitan
      @Romapolitan Місяць тому

      Very much still happens in video games at least

  • @cutelittlepuppi_
    @cutelittlepuppi_ Місяць тому +394

    i think bing bong ties into the theme very well, he represents childhood and part of the theme is that you should learn to accept that the past is behind you and you won't go back to that time, bing bong's death symbolizes that Riley's grown up and is no longer as playful and innocent as she was before

    • @pawnhearts8785
      @pawnhearts8785 Місяць тому +75

      I am actually quite pissed off at Just Stop's indifference towards Bing Bong because he is quite well-written.

    • @SaraqaelGuardian
      @SaraqaelGuardian Місяць тому +80

      Also Bing bong its a character with an actual arc and development on the movie, being someone attached to memories (almost literaly) who really just wanted Riley to keep being the same lil girl, but at the end understanding she doesnt really needs him anymore, he did his part on her life, but rn she actually needs Joy

    • @cosmicspacething3474
      @cosmicspacething3474 Місяць тому +34

      Also he ended up showcasing how Sadness could be helpful in certain situations

    • @aspec9750
      @aspec9750 Місяць тому +34

      Bing Bong being compared to Olaf is crazy lmao 😭 he was genuinely well written and fit the theme

    • @coolcharles45
      @coolcharles45 Місяць тому +29

      I was about to say that the Bing bong slander was unjustified

  • @cannonbyrd1755
    @cannonbyrd1755 Місяць тому +218

    Bro did not just diss my boy bing bong

    • @pawnhearts8785
      @pawnhearts8785 Місяць тому +52

      Exactly, Bing Bong does not belong on this list because he's a well fleshed out and well-writen character.

    • @froghatvampirate
      @froghatvampirate Місяць тому +19

      He has the same voice as Tom from the Tom & Jerry Movie (1992). 😗
      That's a little fact I just find interesting.

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Місяць тому +16

      @@pawnhearts8785 I hesitate to even call Bing Bong a mascot. I think Fear and Anger are more recognizable than Bing bong.

  • @axlforeal
    @axlforeal Місяць тому +356

    Sorry but i cant look at minions without being reminded of that one video of a girl having meltdown over them

    • @manidavis4126
      @manidavis4126 Місяць тому +9

      Video link?

    • @spatial_rind
      @spatial_rind Місяць тому +5

      Our Third Life goated

    • @PixlsInPain
      @PixlsInPain Місяць тому +9

      I’m glad I don’t know about that. That sounds horrible

    • @peskygull9279
      @peskygull9279 Місяць тому +14

      Pupinia is an icon of our generation

    • @329link
      @329link Місяць тому +3

      I was unaware of this video, but I will now seek it out because it sounds hilarious.

  • @Bowsermmbbreal
    @Bowsermmbbreal Місяць тому +200

    0:34 That is the first phase of turning into a Minion, there is no cure.

  • @EPPicstuff
    @EPPicstuff Місяць тому +128

    🤔R2-D2 definitely has his own agency. He has a mission to find Obi-Wan Kenobit and get the Death Star plans to the rebellion.

    • @EPPicstuff
      @EPPicstuff Місяць тому +26

      He pushes pass C-3PO's cowardness and decides to escape using the escape pods.
      He treks through the desert in search for him.
      When the Jawas sell the droids to Luke, R2 does everything he can to hide the message from Luke. Then R2 runs away to keep looking for Obi-Wan in the desert even with the restraining bolt left on him.

  • @thebratwurst
    @thebratwurst Місяць тому +47

    I actually really enjoyed Bing Bong, he wasn't perfect as a character, but what he represented--the simplicities of younger life--and how Joy had to let go of that image of Riley to help her grow up, really touched my entire family. Just wish he was less annoying when we first meet him.

  • @claytonrios1
    @claytonrios1 Місяць тому +107

    The Minions like many kids movie mascots are fun in small doses but when they take over the entire franchise? That's a problem.

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome Місяць тому +4

      I honestly found them funny. Never a dull moment with them.
      But seriously I hope DM5 is the final one and anything after that is like a spinoff or tv show.

    • @claytonrios1
      @claytonrios1 Місяць тому +3

      @@Cubeytheawesome I hope so too

  • @snowhunter7536
    @snowhunter7536 Місяць тому +63

    “They’re not a brand”?
    Then how come you classified Shaymin as a mascot character when Pikachu is literally right there?
    Also, I think most of these examples have a common term called ‘sidekicks’ while others are literal Chekov guns.

    • @CinnamonGrrlErin1
      @CinnamonGrrlErin1 Місяць тому +18

      I was looking for a "sidekicks" comment, and I agree. There is a difference between actual sidekicks, like Dug or Bing Bong and clumps of characters like the Toy Story aliens or Minions.

    • @anonymouslucario285
      @anonymouslucario285 Місяць тому +5

      They were the mascot sidekick character of the movie they were in

  • @sophiaisstillagoodunit6626
    @sophiaisstillagoodunit6626 Місяць тому +404

    I reallly hate how wish made the star into a marketable plushie instead of making him a twink with a cute romance with asha( also the removal of the double villain couple)

    • @RJS2003
      @RJS2003 Місяць тому +68

      The suits changing the movie constantly really did just decide to make every single possible wrong decision imaginable, huh?

    • @sophiaisstillagoodunit6626
      @sophiaisstillagoodunit6626 Місяць тому +57

      @@RJS2003 they had one job and they decided they had to use the clown makeup during it

    • @TheDanceMan567
      @TheDanceMan567 Місяць тому +31

      Granted, if they did, they would have just made him a token love interest. What I WANTED to see was him and Asha growing closer.

    • @MangoMagica
      @MangoMagica Місяць тому

      We were ROBBED, man!

    • @Simbala-bq5vy
      @Simbala-bq5vy Місяць тому +18

      It's really weird because I mean they have Valentino hes also marketable.

  • @Erin-jp4lc
    @Erin-jp4lc Місяць тому +27

    I do not agree with putting Bing-Bong on a list of “annoying mascots”. People don’t cry at his death because it’s a funny silly mascot whose suddenly dying people cry at it because of what it represents: the loss of Riley’s childhood and innocence. Out of all of the characters you listed in that section he is the only one whose death actually hits for people. And that’s because he isn’t just mindless jokes and he isn’t just important to the plot he’s also important to the themes and emotional core of the movie. Plus the scene is just really well written. “Take her to the moon for me” gets me every time.

  • @lawmanlawman2210
    @lawmanlawman2210 Місяць тому +45

    This is why I find Happy from Fairy Tail so great: Everything about him just screams mascot, but not only is he actually funny, but he has a well-developed and fun character arc in his own right that is really refreshing once you pay attention to it.

    • @JustStop
      @JustStop  Місяць тому +12

      Okay, I'm not gonna lie: this video was originally built on the concept of him being the end example, but I thought it wasn't quite as conclusively the best as the mirrors portion, so I decided to hold my praise for him off until... another project

    • @lawmanlawman2210
      @lawmanlawman2210 Місяць тому +3

      @@JustStopLooking forward to it!

  • @madengineerkyouma
    @madengineerkyouma Місяць тому +93

    The best "mascot character" for me is Dimple from Mob Psycho 100

  • @thefunniman3285
    @thefunniman3285 Місяць тому +170

    She mascot on my character till I suck

    • @UrFavGothChick
      @UrFavGothChick Місяць тому +43

      *Loud incorrect buzzer*

    • @Hecuba107
      @Hecuba107 Місяць тому +15

      You what?

    • @Artificer_
      @Artificer_ Місяць тому

      she suck on my character till i mascot

    • @norr7283
      @norr7283 Місяць тому

      she suck on my character til i mascot

    • @pisaschitt787
      @pisaschitt787 Місяць тому +4

      Wort wort

  • @Mycatisaliteralidiot
    @Mycatisaliteralidiot Місяць тому +41

    I think Kyubey from Madoka Magica is a pretty good example of a mascot done right

    • @avrie6668
      @avrie6668 Місяць тому

      Couldn’t think of a better mascot for madoka magica it absolutely fits

  • @dislike_button33
    @dislike_button33 Місяць тому +118

    How dare you not cry about Bing Bong's sacrifice!

    • @pawnhearts8785
      @pawnhearts8785 Місяць тому +50

      It's not even that he didn't cry about it that pisses me off, it's that he found Bing Bong's character as "just a mascot character that sucks" but he was legitimately well-written.

    • @dislike_button33
      @dislike_button33 Місяць тому +1

      @@pawnhearts8785 Well yeah, that is what made many cry for him too.

  • @Harrymation-productions
    @Harrymation-productions Місяць тому +89

    Can despicable me really be called a cinematic universe? It’s just four films and 2 (soon 3) films in a spin-off series.

    • @Extremezotako
      @Extremezotako Місяць тому +45

      for some reason everybody uses " cinematic universes " as a word that replaced another word which is " franchise "

    • @acoolcat.
      @acoolcat. Місяць тому +26

      Yeah a real cinematic universe is typically a collection of mostly unrelated stories that still take place in the same universe and sometimes might interact.

    • @seroujghazarian6343
      @seroujghazarian6343 Місяць тому +8

      considering they appear in literally every illumination film's intro, including one which was a co-production, yeah, kinda

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome Місяць тому

      There’s gonna be like 50 Mega Minion movies coming soon according to Steve Carell

    • @sonicfanboy3375
      @sonicfanboy3375 Місяць тому

      ​@@CubeytheawesomeI think that was a joke

  • @jasoninkurai5463
    @jasoninkurai5463 Місяць тому +52

    Persona 3 excels with it's two mascots, Aigis and Korumaru, as not only are they fleshed out characters, even if one is just a normal dog, but both are integral to the main's plot themes of finding meaning in life, especially Aigis.

    • @mattwo7
      @mattwo7 Місяць тому +9

      Normal dog? Excuse you, Koromaru is an _exceptional_ dog.

    • @BretGriffis
      @BretGriffis Місяць тому +4

      Koromaru is the bestest boi

  • @43Main
    @43Main Місяць тому +52

    I love how that Danganronpa clip had an appearance of the previous avatar

  • @foxyelie4871
    @foxyelie4871 Місяць тому +26

    Well if you go to Japan, Minions are MUCH beloved there. Even the Universal Japan Park is loaded with them.
    I'd say the Minions fits Japan's ideal kawaii mascots lol

  • @kootunesscrewy
    @kootunesscrewy Місяць тому +108

    Woody Woodpecker is probably the most underrated mascot that sadly got taken away by the Minions.
    I'm not saying the Minions are terrible, I still love them, but I don't think they fit NBCUniversal that well as that crazy bird.

    • @Hecuba107
      @Hecuba107 Місяць тому +15

      Frankly, even with the lesser cartoons and the live action movies, Woody Woodpecker deserves more of a chance to shine. Otherwise he’ll just be remembered for AVGN.

    • @kootunesscrewy
      @kootunesscrewy Місяць тому +9

      @@Hecuba107 Actually, he did get kinda relevant online around 2021-22. I remember seeing that "Excellent Food" meme.

    • @Hecuba107
      @Hecuba107 Місяць тому +13

      @@kootunesscrewy Right, I forgot that Brazil is still keeping Woody Woodpecker alive.

    • @has2236
      @has2236 Місяць тому +6

      I remembered visiting Universal Studios Japan in 2009, and seeing Woody Woodpecker everywhere. Make sense, since Woody is to Universal what Mickey is to Disney.

    • @TheComedicProsthesecondone
      @TheComedicProsthesecondone Місяць тому +4

      Yeah, I kinda hate how they just put him to the sidelines to make the Minions their mascot. I honestly wanted WB to buy the character and do something with him since it was clear he's no longer the face of Universal, but after the 'Coyote vs. Acme' fiasco I'm sort of having second thoughts

  • @afterlife8095
    @afterlife8095 Місяць тому +60

    “I didn’t tear up when Bing Bong died”
    so you have chosen… death

    • @hunterolaughlin
      @hunterolaughlin Місяць тому +1

      No, no, no, even better…. “He choose… poorly.”

  • @AverageInternetButterfly
    @AverageInternetButterfly Місяць тому +24

    Now's a good excuse for me to bring up Gizmo from the Gremlins films. The entire franchise relies on the rules of owning a Mogwai by not exposing them to bright lights, water, or feeding them after midnight.
    When said rules are broken, Gizmo would get bullied by Gremlins, leading him to finally put a stop to their shit whether he'd incinerate one through sunlight, or turn into Rambo and light a mf on fire to protect his friends.
    All while serving as a fucking adorable mascot character.

  • @Joshua-pc3iq
    @Joshua-pc3iq Місяць тому +18

    Don't disrespect my boys Bing Bong and R2-D2
    Also, how tf is Toad a mascot? When I think of Super Mario Bros I think of Mario

  • @furnaceandtable3041
    @furnaceandtable3041 Місяць тому +47

    Now where does the creeper fit into all this?

    • @staringcorgi6475
      @staringcorgi6475 Місяць тому +14

      The creeper is the mob you think about when minecraft is thought bc it’s an original creation than skeletons and zombies who are common horror tropes

  • @J-Wolf17FTW
    @J-Wolf17FTW Місяць тому +70

    Chopper form One Piece is a great mascot character.
    His character arc is about carrying on the will of his mentor, and it's no surprise that Chopper's debut arc in One Piece is all about one of the series' core concepts, being inherited will.
    And it's not like Chopper becomes dead weight after his debut arc, there are many times in the series where he has to push his own boundaries or take a stand against someone who's very existence shits all over his ideals or his friends(think Dr. Hogback and Queen).
    One Piece would literally not be One Piece if it Chopper wasn't there, so I think someone like him would belong in the top tier of your video.

    • @Hecuba107
      @Hecuba107 Місяць тому +8

      @@J-Wolf17FTW Even when his design changed post-timeskip to fit a more “kawaii” mascot aesthetic, he was still able to contribute.

    • @xxkankala1671
      @xxkankala1671 Місяць тому

      You think copper is a mascot character?

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Місяць тому +7

      @@xxkankala1671 He's voiced by the same Japanese VA as Pikachu, Morgana, and Vivi from Final Fantasy. How is he not a mascot????

  • @ClumsyReaper
    @ClumsyReaper Місяць тому +52

    It sucks so much that Illumination turned Despicable Me into such a nothing, trash franchise. It started off with such an actually good movie, the first one. Second one was also good just started some trends I dislike.

    • @jacksondavies3595
      @jacksondavies3595 Місяць тому +14

      The 2nd one is good too.

    • @hunterolaughlin
      @hunterolaughlin Місяць тому +3

      @@jacksondavies3595Thank you. The second film hate is really starting to get ANNOYING. I have no problem with the third or even the fourth film hate, but the second film hate is where I DRAW the line.

    • @mmmbhss3468
      @mmmbhss3468 23 дні тому

      Honestly think the second minions movie is fine, somewhat underated even

  • @arianapeterkin9529
    @arianapeterkin9529 Місяць тому +8

    The minions overstayed their welcome, especially when illumination kept adding on to the despicable me franchise.

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome Місяць тому

      I still hope those 50 mega minions movies come out, cause it would be better than anything by marvel or dc

  • @kingbash6466
    @kingbash6466 Місяць тому +24

    The best mascot characters are one's that are not only easily recognizable, but have a timeless charm that can be enjoyed by anyone no matter the era. At best, you'll get stuff like Pikachu or Neco Arc. At worst, you get unintentional hate sinks like the Minions or that goat from Wish.

  • @aurealproportions1917
    @aurealproportions1917 Місяць тому +35

    The best example I find is Anya from Spy x Family and her dog Bond :3.

    • @calebpribyl5152
      @calebpribyl5152 Місяць тому +3

      Did you know the girl “Anya” is based off the Bond girl in “the spy who loved me?”

    • @stevepensando2593
      @stevepensando2593 Місяць тому +7

      Anya works because she has an actual fleshed out personality and has good chemistry with literally everyone in the show. While her character is a bit static and she doesn't really change herself, she changes the people around her (mostly Loid, Yor and Damian). She's surprisingly far from being a one-trick pony

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Місяць тому

      @@stevepensando2593 The creator said that he gave up in making something that he wanted and made a story that his editors wanted.

    • @aurealproportions1917
      @aurealproportions1917 Місяць тому

      @@orangeslash1667 He never said that.

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Місяць тому

      @@aurealproportions1917 ua-cam.com/video/eCtnQgEkNrk/v-deo.html

  • @Swordsmen99
    @Swordsmen99 Місяць тому +10

    It feels like whenever comic relief characters become mascots of their respective franchises, there's a big risk of them getting too much favoritism to the point of fans getting sick of them.

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome Місяць тому +1

      I actually have a mascot character that’s just this middle aged orange blob that’s basically zoned out.
      Like Carl from ATHF without the temper.

  • @drakunauger3324
    @drakunauger3324 Місяць тому +29

    Was waiting to see where GIR would fit in the list, but I sadly don't have an answer

    • @RandumYTenjoyer05
      @RandumYTenjoyer05 Місяць тому +6

      probably a separate catergory of "apart of main cast but more recognizable than the main character, mainly just comic relief sidekick but does have his moments, doesn't eat up too much of runtime with his gags and is overall quite good for a "mascot character"

  • @amessoffandoms7897
    @amessoffandoms7897 Місяць тому +8

    the rabbids are a weird case of franchise parasites where they essentially just became they’re own franchise and eventually with the mario + rabbids games they became mostly their own thing and actually made them actual characters instead of just mascots

  • @TheMedicatedArtist
    @TheMedicatedArtist Місяць тому +13

    12:57 The word you’re looking for is “agency”

  • @hwtvi3466
    @hwtvi3466 Місяць тому +9

    You didn’t cry when Bing Bong died? Monster.

  • @CinnamonGrrlErin1
    @CinnamonGrrlErin1 Місяць тому +11

    I feel like you're mixing up actual side characters and sidekicks with the more commercially viable "mascots" here.

  • @ECKohns
    @ECKohns Місяць тому +8

    The star in Wish should have been a humanoid love interest like originally proposed instead of a mascot.

  • @9-VoltGaming
    @9-VoltGaming Місяць тому +25

    I can't believe you didn't include Beemo 😭

    • @shawncarney9657
      @shawncarney9657 Місяць тому +14

      The God tier example here, BMO transcends mascot status. Ending as the meta narrator for all of adventure time.

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome Місяць тому

      People either love them or want to curb stomp them

  • @Persephone_07
    @Persephone_07 Місяць тому +17

    Illumination is really ahead of the curb when it comes to appealing to the IPad babies.
    There movies are meant to show funny short segment and gimmicks that can not only be clipped and easily shared to market the movie, but hold the attention span of children.

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome Місяць тому +1

      I feel like Illumination would do better if they did a tv show adaption of Despicable me. 3 & 4 do seem like actual episodes, only difference is length.

  • @LunaTrix2520
    @LunaTrix2520 Місяць тому +15

    Me: Pfff... He ain't gonna show Monokuma... (The Best One)
    Just Stop: Shows Monokuma 2 minutes in a half into the video.
    Me: ! 👀

  • @inuendo6365
    @inuendo6365 Місяць тому +16

    Pikachu is def the most powerful mascot

  • @iPitafish
    @iPitafish Місяць тому +13

    I don't know how calculated an edit this was, but
    talking about The Minions as a franchise parasite while Rayman music is playing in the background isn't lost on me. Rabbids being promoted from a threat en masse for a game into their own media-engulfing entity and completely overshadowing the franchise they came from did the boy dirty.
    They have two games with Mario. Rayman is the DLC.
    It's a funny juxtiposition.

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome Місяць тому

      While I do enjoy the Rabbids, I do agree they should be side dish, rather than the main course (Rayman and maybe Globox)

  • @yonderjam
    @yonderjam Місяць тому +16

    The biggest problem with Despicable Me 4 for me was that I was actually looking forward to the Minions coming back onscreen, as other than Megamind & Modern Family woman's scenes, as well as the opening & ending, NOTHING about the main plot was funny. Then again, I am a fan of the Minions, but I do understand the complaints about their characters.

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome Місяць тому +2

      I actually hope that time loop thing brought up as an explanation as to why nobody has aged is the plot point for the 5th film.
      Would be pretty insanee

    • @MrBrixey-s6j
      @MrBrixey-s6j Місяць тому

      @@Cubeytheawesomethat’d be a wild ending but illumination would never have the balls to do it, the Minions is to them what SpongeBob is to Nickelodeon.

  • @someoneoutthere3232
    @someoneoutthere3232 Місяць тому +5

    I think the best written mascot character I have ever seen is King from The Owl House. Yes, he is cute cat/wolf thing with a skull head which is a perfect personification for the heartwarming horror fantasy story he is in, but he also gets developed just like any other character in the show, and just like everyone in the cast, it is revealed he is a very tragic character, and said experiences shape how he acts at the climax of the story.

  • @elijahblechman8633
    @elijahblechman8633 Місяць тому +5

    R2 D2 is probably the best Star Wars character. He constantly saves the main trio karma he's not there to be cute and has his own sense of urgency.

  • @analuizadefigueiredosouza7851
    @analuizadefigueiredosouza7851 Місяць тому +7

    Puss in Boots 2 is a very recent movie thay showed us there are people working at big studios who know how to properly tell a well thought out story with great characters. But it takes TIME and FREEDOM from the artists involved in them. Something that these studios seem very reluctant to allow, for some reason. Afterall, Puss in Boots 2: The Last Wish was a box office and critical success

  • @thaariqbinaziz2821
    @thaariqbinaziz2821 Місяць тому +6

    Bong bong is a great character ,i Will die on this hill
    Come at me haters!!!

  • @koichidignitythief7429
    @koichidignitythief7429 Місяць тому +14

    Finally someone else who appreciates Morgana

    • @egg_l0rd13
      @egg_l0rd13 Місяць тому +1

      Yes! I like Morgana

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Місяць тому +2

      @@egg_l0rd13 Fun Fact He's played by the same Japanese VA as Pikachu, Chopper, and Vivi from Final Fantasy.
      The English actor for Morgana also played Sothis from Fire Emblem, and Kyubey from Madoka Magica.
      Talk about type casting.

  • @shinyy8918
    @shinyy8918 Місяць тому +4

    Disappointed that my GOAT Pikachu didn’t make it into the video.

  • @castform7
    @castform7 Місяць тому +17

    Gotta admit, was not expecting Giritina and the Sky Warrior to get slight mentions. Anyway, I do agree. Marketable, mascot type characters can work very well when they're treated as more than just a consistent unfunny punchline or when the fact they are here to sell toys isn't obvious. Mascots who are required for the media to work throughout the media's duration should always be the way to go.

    • @RJS2003
      @RJS2003 Місяць тому +8

      It really is such a shame that a pokémon with a status like Shaymin, a powerful Mythical pokémon, has been permanently associated with its subpar role in that movie. Even worse that it's not the last time it'd happen...
      _(Sounds of hoop portals opening in the distance.)_

    • @waluigiisthebest2802
      @waluigiisthebest2802 Місяць тому +5

      Mythicals in general feel very tacked on. Especially with the removal of in-game encounters. At least Gamefreak are bring them back in recent games.

    • @xxkankala1671
      @xxkankala1671 Місяць тому +1

      @@RJS2003don’t disrespect hoppa like that

    • @anonymouslucario285
      @anonymouslucario285 Місяць тому

      I've never seen the movie. What's so annoying about shaymin? Is it like a "tries way too hard to be cute they end up being sickeningly sweet" kind of annoying?

    • @RJS2003
      @RJS2003 Місяць тому

      @@anonymouslucario285 More like "Spoilt obnoxious, annoying brat who everyone puts up with for some reason and never gets called out."

  • @329link
    @329link Місяць тому +9

    I think it's easy to sum up mascots done well by pointing out that nearly every beloved animated character made in the 80's and 90's was effectively a mascot character. They don't need to be mindless and one-note, thrown around without a care.

  • @ladypool1404
    @ladypool1404 Місяць тому +11

    Stitch can be consider as a mascot? He's a comic relief, is really cute and there's a lot of plushes of him plus the alien is a meet and greet character in Disney parks. I like Stitch! He's not annoying unlike the Minions 🥰
    Gurgi and Hei-hei the chicken are both ugly, not funny and so annoying! Nothing about them is interresting or cute. I hate them!

    • @andreasmeelie1889
      @andreasmeelie1889 Місяць тому +1

      I love Gurgi and Hei-hei! :)

    • @MrBrixey-s6j
      @MrBrixey-s6j Місяць тому

      that’s a mascot whether it’s annoying or not (I find him annoying)

  • @user-dy1dz1lz9t
    @user-dy1dz1lz9t Місяць тому +10

    Out of all things, I never expected Homestar Runner to be a high example in this department. (Trust me, he IS a good example)

  • @peromechus9806
    @peromechus9806 Місяць тому +5

    I work at a movie theater and half of the people going to see Despicable Me 4 call it Minions. They’re not even a mascot for the franchise, they’re THE franchise.

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome Місяць тому

      If they actually do those 50 Mega minions movies, that would be the funniest thing ever

  • @enderkatze6129
    @enderkatze6129 Місяць тому +4

    I feel Like Bing Bong is NOT prevalent enough to be the *mascot* for Inside Out.

  • @emeraldgaming8613
    @emeraldgaming8613 Місяць тому +4

    Bing Bong slander will NOT be tolerated

  • @ShrexyGuy
    @ShrexyGuy Місяць тому +20

    I honestly blame SpongeBob for this trend. Before that the annoying characters in animation tended to be one off or side characters. Now it's always one of the main ones to appease to the brainrot they've spread for 3 decades

    • @Fangzaprika
      @Fangzaprika Місяць тому +13

      Yeah, but early SpongeBob was actually decent. There's a stark contrast between silly and loveable and annoying and blatantly ignorant, or else Goofy wouldn't work in the early Disney cartoons.

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Місяць тому +4

      @@Fangzaprika Sponge Bob was originally suppose to end at the movie, but Nick said NOPE.

    • @galacticglamourgirl
      @galacticglamourgirl Місяць тому +7

      Spongebob was far from the first annoying main character in animation, that had been a trope for decades before him. Just look at Daffy Duck. Or Woody Woodpecker. Even if we fast forward to the 90's, the Warner Siblings predate Spongebob too.

  • @karlispovisils5297
    @karlispovisils5297 Місяць тому +5

    I wouldn't exactly call the Toad from the Super Mario Bros Movie a mascot. He's more of a comic relief character. I think most people still think of Mario when they think of the face of the Mario Movie. Though who knows? Maybe Illumination will change that over time like they did with the Minions. Hopefully that doesn't happen.

  • @dinoman6481
    @dinoman6481 Місяць тому +3

    I think Jiji from Kiki Delivery Service might be a good example of a mascot character. While he is mostly there for comic relief, he doesn't take over the story and actually adds to kiki's character development after he "loses" the ability to talk and even starts getting a life of his own, separate from Kiki.

  • @Im2lazy4thisCrit
    @Im2lazy4thisCrit Місяць тому +4

    This is the first time I’m hearing someone hate Bing Bong

  • @elkarlo1593
    @elkarlo1593 Місяць тому +9

    That blue ameboae thing from Disney's Strange World is like, the only passable character in the thumbnail, and that's just because it wasn't tarnished by further sequels and shorts like Olaf and the Minions and thanks to the movie bombing it might not get a chance to
    Rabbids too but those were kinda mid in the beginning, got worse over time and only recently became something actually likeable, in short bursts though

  • @BinglesP
    @BinglesP Місяць тому +18

    I feel Plank from/with Ed Edd n' Eddy is an example of a good franchise mascot (and not just because I'm an obsessive fanwork creator for that show)
    Not one the main characters, doesn't even talk or move much, and isn't even a cutesy design or character at all(he's actually really snarky when analyzing his dialogue that he passes on to Jonny), yet iconic as all Hell without being overbearing or annoying

  • @AlecMeyer94
    @AlecMeyer94 Місяць тому +6

    Some examples of good mascot characters
    Servbots - Mega Man Legends
    Anya - Spy x Family
    Gir - Invader Zim
    Rabbids - Mario + Rabbids
    Unikitty - The Lego Movie
    Slime - Dragon Quest
    Prinny - Disgaea
    No Face - Spirited Away

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome Місяць тому +2

      Man that Unikitty show was fucking amazing

    • @AlecMeyer94
      @AlecMeyer94 Місяць тому +1

      @@Cubeytheawesome Unikitty was a gem.

    • @sonicfanboy3375
      @sonicfanboy3375 Місяць тому +2

      No Face is a mascot?

    • @AlecMeyer94
      @AlecMeyer94 Місяць тому

      @@sonicfanboy3375 In a way, yes. He is one of the most iconic characters in Spirited Away and Ghibli.

  • @devenlemend4599
    @devenlemend4599 Місяць тому +9

    sorry sir this is America i can do whatever i want and i choose not to go to court

  • @AstralKat
    @AstralKat Місяць тому +5

    I find it funny that the higher up on the list these characters got, the less marketable they became, obviously thats not 100% true because Mushu was insanely popular as marketing material with toys and what not but the others really dont have that, especially ones like the Box Trolls or Perito, I dont know if Perito has a ton of merch but if he does then he has significantly less of it compared to Puss and Kitty at least where I live, Morgana is another example, he doesnt even have a major figure of his own as far as I know, where as every single other phantom thief member, including the two from royal have one or often times multiple, morgana has plushies but from being in the persona fandom for so long the figures are usually the more important things, it's hilarious and a little ironic that the more depth a mascot character has and by proxy the more of a real character in the story they become, the less marketable they end up being as a mascot. great video!

  • @CheesyLizzy
    @CheesyLizzy Місяць тому +4

    Koromaru will always be my favorite mascot
    Cause he's literally just a dog, he's not a weird simp like Teddie or Morgana, he is very literally a dog who only says woof and I love him. Best written Persona character

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 Місяць тому +22

    Rocket Raccoon is a better mascot character than Groot. ...Don't let him know I called him that...

  • @anonymouslucario285
    @anonymouslucario285 Місяць тому +12

    Would you say Shaymin is your least favorite pokémon?

  • @AnnoyingSquib
    @AnnoyingSquib Місяць тому +3

    Owlhouse is a wonderful example of having mascots across the spectrum but done in a way that you really don't mind them being there, they contribute to the story, or with King being the best example, transitions from urgency to mirror as he becomes the living embodiment of change and growth for the world in the end.

  • @banobobot
    @banobobot Місяць тому +2

    Would the Chao be considered mascot “characters”? If so, the Wisps could also be taken into account, though they were seemingly phased out.

  • @luigiboi4244
    @luigiboi4244 Місяць тому +5

    One example of a great Mascot that Braxton didn’t mention that I think deserves dissection is The Transformers. The cartoons always focus on the Transformers (specifically both sides of the conflict) and treat them all as characters, while the movies (with two obvious exceptions) almost always portray them as afterthoughts to their own films, instead relegating them to what feels like background noise while the human characters take most of the screen time, depriving the Cybertronians character depth and making them feel like cardboard cutouts until the movie swaps them out with trained stuntmen for the big action sequences. The two movies that treat both the Autobots and Decepticons like actual characters coincidentally are the best Transformers movies, being the 1986 “The Transformers: The Movie”, a tie-in film to the animated series of the same name, and 2018’s “Transformers: Bumblebee”, a film that copied the homework of “The Iron Giant” and reskinned it to be about Bumblebee.
    I do recommend watching the 2 movies I referenced, as they are fun to watch and they treat the Transformers as actual characters.

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 Місяць тому +13

    I stopped paying attention to the DM franchise when the Minions movie came out.
    Seems like I made the right call. From the sound of it, Illumination Entertainment fell off in general. I mean, aside from Mario anyway but Mario only worked because Nintendo was so strict with it.

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome Місяць тому

      They’re like the one huge entertainment company against AI, why are you complaining.

    • @sonicfanboy3375
      @sonicfanboy3375 Місяць тому

      ​@@CubeytheawesomeI mean their movies aren't really good

  • @IcefisherTenacity
    @IcefisherTenacity Місяць тому +3

    I would push back that characters like MO, Bing bong, and Toad don’t really fit the criteria of mascot characters because the leads in their respective movies were intended to be the most marketable aspect. Mario and WALL·E are clearly the mascots AND the leads. Mo, BB, Toad are made to be cute and funny, sure but they’re still intended as supporting characters

  • @tdata545
    @tdata545 Місяць тому +4

    With that Steve Carrel ad for Despicable Me 4, I thought they were becoming self-aware and were going to go a fun deconstructionist route with that franchise and the minions... They sometimes do it from the brief bits I've seen from them, but only sometimes. I've never watched any of their movies, all what is it, like 9 movies between Despicable Me, Minions, and that villain offshoot that I think was played by Trey Parker. I don't know, I just remember Trey Parker was in one of these movies for his daughter... I really don't remember or know much about this franchise.

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome Місяць тому +1

      They should actually do that. I’d watch it. Also it would be hilarious.
      I love illumination’s shitposts. I wish some of their films could be a bit more mature so they weren’t as hated

    • @tdata545
      @tdata545 Місяць тому +1

      @@Cubeytheawesome I was reviewing Bluey on IMDB and was commenting how MATURE the jokes were, they weren't crass or innuendo laden. They were just smarter jokes than the show's key audience would catch on. Puns, play on words, adult subject matters like taxes, etc. You can be mature without crudity.
      It's like "A Monster Calls", one of my favorite kid's movies, I mean I was like 24 when I saw it, I think, with my mother, and was blown away with how mature this movie was. A boy's mom is not going to make it due to advance cancer, he's not taking it well. So through out the movie, a giant Tree monster tells him a story and the fourth story the boy has to come up with or be devoured by the monster. The stories the monster tells are great, they're morally ambiguous and don't have a right answer. LOVE THAT MOVIE. Highly recommend it, it's mature since it doesn't insult the intended age's intelligence. Spoiler, there isn't a happy ending, mom doesn't magically get cured, but she's merely the catalyst to the whole thing to begin with.

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 Місяць тому +11

    9:37 *SHAYMIN...*

    • @foxyelie4871
      @foxyelie4871 Місяць тому +4

      Yeah have no idea why Shaymin was included there. It should've been Keldeo of the movie coz I find that Pokemon more annoying af. Even though I liked Keldeo in the games lol

    • @anonymouslucario285
      @anonymouslucario285 Місяць тому

      It's because they just sit there and look cute for most of the movie, I think.

  • @mlpfreddy9603
    @mlpfreddy9603 Місяць тому +4

    I think Iggy from jjba does this so well because while no he isnt the face you think of when you think jojo he is the character of part 3 who is more like a jobro then kakyoin .

  • @adrianoctavio
    @adrianoctavio Місяць тому +6

    Am I allowed to say Isabelle from animal crossing? I watched the series in real time turn from the series with characters with cool personalities, to the series where even if everyone was a little nicer, isabelle was still different enough to be the one person who always had your back, to the series where isabelle is the wholy mascot and every other character needs to act like isabelle. It's to the point where people not that familiar with the series get shocked when I tell her she was introduced in new leaf.

    • @evaniledgerdrums
      @evaniledgerdrums Місяць тому

      Yeah, considering most of the merch for AC is of Isabelle, Tom Nook, or KK Slider. I don’t personally enjoy Tom Nook merch, but I understand that he’s one of the only constants in AC. Luckily places like Etsy and Redbubble make it so I can get merch of my fav villagers that will never have merch of their own. 😎

  • @berniedavis6676
    @berniedavis6676 Місяць тому +1

    i wonder where Slimer from ghostbusters sit on the mascot spectrum.

  • @gooeydude574
    @gooeydude574 Місяць тому +15

    For some of these, I feel like you’re confusing comic relief characters for mascot characters

  • @gavinlucas9761
    @gavinlucas9761 Місяць тому +3

    My favorite mascot characters are Plue & Happy from Hiro Mashima's works.

  • @arls-xv6gm
    @arls-xv6gm Місяць тому +5

    Would R2D2 count as a mascot character for Star Wars? Cause if so he’s got to be one of the best

  • @misterzygarde6431
    @misterzygarde6431 Місяць тому +12

    When I was a kid, I found Doug from Up to be funny. As an adult, I appreciate the character arc he went through and while you brought up some good points about Morgana, I do think Doug is the better mascot character.
    Even as a huge fan of the Rabbids growing up. I do understand why Rayman fans resented them for stealing the spotlight.
    You know those jokes about the Minions serving a certain dictator fail to take account that the Minions got most of their masters killed. Like if they served that certain dictator, WWII would’ve been made much easier for the allies.

  • @Freezient
    @Freezient Місяць тому +3

    I have to disagree and defend Heihei on this one. He should be on number 3 at least cause he is useful to Moana. She defended him when the village elder suggests they should cook him. Moana ended up getting helped by Heihei

  • @axelwulf6220
    @axelwulf6220 Місяць тому +3

    I was just talking about this today
    Mascot characters essentially being overmarketed to the point of annoying

  • @luiscoa9991
    @luiscoa9991 Місяць тому +2

    Tony Tony Chopper proves that being small and funny doesn't mean you're not human, don't have feelings, or even that his past is difficult.

  • @wyattmcgahey3035
    @wyattmcgahey3035 22 дні тому +2

    7:13 HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT MY BOY MO.

  • @12DAMDO
    @12DAMDO Місяць тому +1

    "whatever else you can stick their faces on"
    i'm getting minions tamps flashbacks

  • @dragothebluedragongamer
    @dragothebluedragongamer 27 днів тому +2

    Bing Bong is more of a side character instead of a mascot considering there was no marketing on him. He may seem somewhat annoying to you and some people, but not everyone thinks he's annoying.
    Plus he is Riley's imaginary friend who soon learns that Riley is growing up and that he can't be with her forever.
    His sacrifice really touched a lot of people's heart because of the lesson that came with it and I'm sorry if it didn't touch yours or anything else's heart.

  • @phorchybug3286
    @phorchybug3286 Місяць тому +2

    6:20
    I could totally see that being the plot for a DM5.

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome Місяць тому

      Between that and that time loop thing from the DM4 producers (that’s why no one has aged), I’d love to see this.
      It would be genius.

  • @Di-Sapien
    @Di-Sapien 25 днів тому +3

    8:43 Evangelion reference detected. Yes I am obsessed.

  • @squidguppy
    @squidguppy Місяць тому +1

    It's such a shame about Despicable Me. The first movie was a dumb but well written fun story, the minions were genuinely just funny little guys who had their moments but never overstayed their welcome.
    Illumination have milked the franchise so much that the minions have become insufferable, if they had been left alone, maybe they would have faded into memory but at least they would have been looked back on a lot more fondly.