Dante’s Hatred Of The Angels Vermillion - 40K Theories

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  • @VoiceOfTheEmperor
    @VoiceOfTheEmperor 5 років тому +614

    Let me make it clear as to why Dante hates these guys.
    *YOU DO NOT BLACKMAIL A SPACE MARINE.*

    • @poodlescone9700
      @poodlescone9700 5 років тому +74

      Inquisition: Why not? Ork snipers worked for the Celestial Lions.

    • @VoiceOfTheEmperor
      @VoiceOfTheEmperor 5 років тому +44

      @@poodlescone9700 Orks are easy to bribe and eliminate afterwards.

    • @crypto1223
      @crypto1223 5 років тому +88

      PoodleScone And you wonder why the Dark Angels keep “misplacing” their Inquisitor attachés.

    • @Sirscruggz
      @Sirscruggz 5 років тому +27

      crypto1223 misplacing attaché s meaning asmodai is having fun with their corpses

    • @Nyghtking
      @Nyghtking 5 років тому +31

      Also you don't threaten the legacy of the emperor's second favorite son.

  • @Valandar2
    @Valandar2 5 років тому +200

    "And in m42, the Angels Vermillion were accidentally subjected to Exterminatus by a Blood Angels fleet, instead of the Xenos world a sector away, blaming it on 'the tides of the Warp'..."

  • @grimgun100
    @grimgun100 5 років тому +89

    The Chapter Master was slain by Nercons? Why do I think the Blood Angels called them up and said "hey know that favor you owe me".

  • @toxicparamite
    @toxicparamite 5 років тому +325

    Imagine if the Angels Vermillion tattles to the inquisition and they just say "We already know and don't care". Then the chapter gets deleted by the Blood Angels.

    • @kingjonstarkgeryan8573
      @kingjonstarkgeryan8573 5 років тому +51

      The Ordo Xenos certainly know given the Sons of Sanguinus do have some of its members among the Deathwatch.

    • @dominicdo2719
      @dominicdo2719 3 роки тому +8

      I bet they do already know. Back in the 30k there was no Inquisition and most legions kept to themselves and seldom fight with other legions. Now in the 40K there many Blood Angel successor chapters and an Inquisition that will torture you to death at the slight hint of heresy

    • @snakeyman5560
      @snakeyman5560 3 роки тому +2

      The blood angels wouldn't do it.
      If they did do that they would have to delete several other chapters as well.

  • @connorchenery977
    @connorchenery977 5 років тому +116

    If Dante himself claimed the chapter has fallen to chaos and had them declared as traitors then regardless of that they reveal to the inquisition they would not be believed

    • @Triumph263
      @Triumph263 4 роки тому +13

      @@whippingtoddlerthewanderer9588 "Darn I accidentally had my fleet virus bomb their planet. What a shame I accidentally did that, what a shame this terrible accident happened. I am so very sad about this tragic accident."

  • @steathbomer
    @steathbomer 4 роки тому +148

    “Which of you have not shared in such slaughter?” Lamenters: Uhhhhh

  • @jorgeshaft1483
    @jorgeshaft1483 5 років тому +514

    Why does Dante hate the Angels Vermillion?
    Answer: because the Angels Vermillion are absolutely repulsive nightmares.

    • @rexlumontad8078
      @rexlumontad8078 5 років тому +27

      Jorge Shaft HEY KIDS WANNA SEE A DEAD BODY?!

    • @erho2967
      @erho2967 5 років тому +5

      Jorge Shaft Tell us how you really feel

    • @fear693872
      @fear693872 5 років тому +7

      @@rexlumontad8078 STOP SCREAMING!!!!!!!

    • @D00M3R-SK8
      @D00M3R-SK8 5 років тому +2

      are these one ones that were in both my blood angels and CSM 7th edition codices? I remember there being one chapter that was in both.

    • @jackdaalfbrainork6392
      @jackdaalfbrainork6392 4 роки тому +4

      Jorge Shaft I think khorn is starting to take interest in them...

  • @Chousakan
    @Chousakan 4 роки тому +45

    I love the way Chauld just gives Hereon the tour.
    "So, this is our blood processing plant where we conduct the ritualistic sacrifice of civilians and one of our own so we can bathe in the blood then drink it. I see that look you're giving me, but don't worry fam, we call it "the Sorrowing" because we totally feel bad about having to do it. Now over here is our shrine where we put all the bones after we clean them of flesh. By the way, how are you liking that burger..."

    • @Ulvetann
      @Ulvetann 4 роки тому +12

      Heron starts thinking: "Hmm, this reminds me of something. Something like 'skulls for a skull-throne, blooD for the...' *WAIT A MINUTE!* "

  • @Ralndrath
    @Ralndrath 5 років тому +375

    Wow...Dante has more than enough of a reason to hate The Angels Vermillion. I expected something horrible if Dante hated them, but not THAT bad. Sacred feth!

    • @rexlumontad8078
      @rexlumontad8078 5 років тому +14

      Ben Agar They deserved to be purged

    • @snakeyman5560
      @snakeyman5560 5 років тому +8

      The Vermillion are innocent.
      The Bloodangels shouldnt have brought upon themselves the threat of being blackmailed.

    • @danishsyed1068
      @danishsyed1068 5 років тому +18

      @@snakeyman5560 the Vermillion are not Innocent they Shame the 9th and their gene farther I say send the flesh tears and flesh eaters may they died at hands of their brothers that tried to maintain their honor despite the flaw

    • @snakeyman5560
      @snakeyman5560 5 років тому +10

      @@danishsyed1068 The Blood angels were asking for it the moment they threatened the vermilion. I don't care about the vermilion, I care about logic and reason, and saying the Vermillion are guilty is like saying that if you punch a guy, he is guilty if he beats the shit out of you. My point is, the Blood angels shouldn't have leveraged a threat if they can't handle blackmail.

    • @Dr_fatass
      @Dr_fatass 5 років тому +1

      Oinlnuz9nj

  • @hellfalkon9234
    @hellfalkon9234 5 років тому +240

    I can only suspect that the Astartes of the Angels Vermillion who traveled to Baal where loyalist shards of a chapter falling to Chaos.
    Like some of the traitor legions having loyalist groups escaping, surviving and fighting against the traitors from the Horus Heresy it looks suprisingly obvious to me that the Angels Vermillion are experiencing the exactly same.
    For the case of growing intensity of the violence inside the rituals carried out: I suspect a fall towards both Khorne and Slaneesh. Khorne because they seem to care less and less where their blood comes from they drink, but only that it comes from somewhere. And they take it in more brutish ways. Slaneesh however comes into play as it looks like they take more and more pleasure from it. They also consume it in a kind of celebrating fashion. Something that looks very slaneeshy indeed.
    But whatever it truely is: we will only know it when the history of the Angels Vetmillion gets written on from official site. Since then, all speculations and guesses are as true or false as mine is.

    • @SilentHotdog28
      @SilentHotdog28 4 роки тому +8

      Nurgle might even gain a handful of followers....probably not many, but the infections that develop in some of the Chained up victims could cause some Astartes to become interested in the 'gifts' of Nurgle.

    • @daemonprinceazriel9113
      @daemonprinceazriel9113 2 роки тому +1

      I know what new chaos army I'm playing

  • @mercenarygundam1487
    @mercenarygundam1487 5 років тому +326

    It's obvious:
    They stole Dante's secret pasta sauce recipe.

    • @poodlescone9700
      @poodlescone9700 5 років тому +38

      That red stuff is not tomato.

    • @DaimoHope
      @DaimoHope 5 років тому +32

      Those bastards. The Angels Vermillion should be dissolved for such heresy...that and the Khornate rituals.

    • @rexlumontad8078
      @rexlumontad8078 5 років тому +4

      They deserve to be wiped out by the Tyranids and not be replenished with Primaris Marines

    • @Noisius
      @Noisius 5 років тому +12

      I may be a chaos worshiper but that shit sounds fucking heresy!

    • @kaertistheblack8443
      @kaertistheblack8443 5 років тому +1

      Armored mecha You can; but it makes them angry.

  • @ericvogt3993
    @ericvogt3993 5 років тому +265

    Somehow I don't think Khorne would be impressed by a Chapter whose contingency plan was "tell on them."

    • @axiumsa4273
      @axiumsa4273 5 років тому +73

      I'll never get over how easily some absolutely valid and blood-filled feud's between chapters can easily be boiled down to 'I'm telling mom." as the ultimatum.

    • @WastelandSeven
      @WastelandSeven 5 років тому +31

      @@axiumsa4273 Well, when "mom" is the Inquisition and can pronounce exterminatus on you, the threat level is quite a bit higher than your mom just telling you to go to bed without your supper.

    • @SC-ce3vp
      @SC-ce3vp 5 років тому +10

      @@WastelandSeven I'm telling the emperor.

    • @pspicer777
      @pspicer777 5 років тому +3

      Wasteland Seven You sir, do not know my Mom!! Exterminatus? Phooey.

    • @ericvogt3993
      @ericvogt3993 5 років тому +20

      Third Company! Knock it off or I'm turning this battle barge right around and we're all going back to the fortress monastery!

  • @onairwithjarvis
    @onairwithjarvis 5 років тому +373

    With the Angel's Vermillion rituals becoming more horrific, perhaps the chapter is starting to find joy in drinking the blood of mortals, maybe even a pleasure. Perhaps even a decent to the practices of Slaanesh?

    • @adrianjuarez8079
      @adrianjuarez8079 5 років тому +43

      The Warhammer Podcast or khorne with the murder of civilians.

    • @salamut2202
      @salamut2202 5 років тому +81

      @@adrianjuarez8079 But there's not much honour or pride or marshal skill in this, it doesn't feel very Khorne. Bathing and feasting on the result of suffering, however? That has the Dark Prince's clawmarks all over this.

    • @Ivan-qf4mt
      @Ivan-qf4mt 5 років тому +38

      @@salamut2202 sometimes Khorne overlooks the "honor" part if the numbers are sufficient.

    • @sternencolonel7328
      @sternencolonel7328 5 років тому +45

      Drinking blood and collecting bones, clearly a sign of khorne corruption "blood for the bloodgod, skulls for the skullthrone"

    • @salamut2202
      @salamut2202 5 років тому +51

      @@Ivan-qf4mt & ​ @Sternencolonell
      I still see Khorne as primarily a war deity. His alter is the battle field, after all. Bathing and feasting is a very Slaaneshi thing. And seeing I'm one of the ones who hang on to the older "Khorne sends his fleshhounds against those who slay non-combatants in his name because he rejects the skulls of the unworthy" fluff (because otherwise he's really dumb), this sort of behaviour with refugees doesn't sound very martial at all. Even at his rawist, Khorne is "Kill, maim, burn" rather than "Bleed, drink, indulge".

  • @frankrue5071
    @frankrue5071 5 років тому +188

    They broke into his chambers and ate Dante's precious prize parakeets.

    • @rexlumontad8078
      @rexlumontad8078 5 років тому +6

      Frank Rue And added pineapple on it

    • @audiethacker907
      @audiethacker907 5 років тому +3

      @@rexlumontad8078 Pineapple on parakeet? What fresh heresy is that!?

  • @MrTurbowhitey
    @MrTurbowhitey 5 років тому +295

    The "Angels Vermilion" are completely heretical. They're basically a cannon version of what happens to the Blood Angels in the Nightmare to Come and the Age of Dusk.

    • @5thlegion123
      @5thlegion123 5 років тому +26

      Disagree to an extent. The Knights of Blood and the Flesh Tearers have done just as if not even worse so whats the difference?

    • @phoenicianprince4635
      @phoenicianprince4635 5 років тому +78

      @@5thlegion123 "Far Worse" Even the Flesh Tearers dare not sacrifice the blood of Sanguinius or threaten their Genebrothers. Hell the Flesh Tearers might be known for brutality but even their savagery is not without some nobility, the Angels Vermilion are disgraceful as well as far more bloodthirsty, to boot at least the Flesh Tearers are honest, the Angels Vermillion try to hide their extreme Bloodthirst.

    • @MrTurbowhitey
      @MrTurbowhitey 5 років тому +71

      The Knights of Blood were honorable, and died to a man in defense of Baal, and the Flesh Tearers are suffering from a far more severe version of the Black Rage because of gene-seed mutations. The Tearers and the Knights are both on the extreme side of "Loyalist" but they don't butcher Innocents and drink their blood. They also don't defile Sanguinary Priests. Their "Chapter Masters" also didn't threaten to disclose the shame of the Red Thirst and the Black Rage to the Inquisition.

    • @5thlegion123
      @5thlegion123 5 років тому +13

      @@MrTurbowhitey Plenty of evidence suggests otherwise mate. And the Knights of Blood where declared heretics for slaughtering innocents and allies before the Devastation of Baal.

    • @julkarcerum7618
      @julkarcerum7618 5 років тому +21

      @@MrTurbowhitey Knights of Blood Chapter Mastor Sentor Juul literally ripped an innocent local man in half and drank his blood to seal a pact with the Flesh Tearers in Devastation of Baal.

  • @Necrodermis
    @Necrodermis 5 років тому +97

    Wouldn't be surprised if the Necrons killed Chaud because they saw him as a threat to their blood angels ally/tool.

    • @Necrodermis
      @Necrodermis 5 років тому +11

      @Peasant the Necrons have had a few run ins with the Blood Angels and have at times fought alongside them to fight the Tyranids on a few occasions. The leader of the Necron race the Silent King is said to personally know Sanguinius and seems to hold him in some high regard.

  • @fatbap
    @fatbap 5 років тому +91

    I think youll find its LORD Commander Dante. Emperor damned heretic.

  • @morgenzada2152
    @morgenzada2152 5 років тому +205

    Angels vermillion sounds like a chaos chapter

    • @poodlescone9700
      @poodlescone9700 5 років тому +25

      More than Marines Malevolent.

    • @Monkeyshaman
      @Monkeyshaman 5 років тому +20

      They're literally mirroring the red angel, so yes.

    • @seanpeacock4290
      @seanpeacock4290 4 роки тому +21

      chaos lite
      great taste
      less heresy

    • @TimeCircleBlue
      @TimeCircleBlue 3 роки тому +6

      @@seanpeacock4290 those labels are usually lies. The amount of Heresy is the same. It just tastes worse

    • @StarkeRealm
      @StarkeRealm 3 роки тому +2

      @@TimeCircleBlue You don't corrupt for longer, it just feels longer.

  • @axaldusteliora2956
    @axaldusteliora2956 5 років тому +65

    Great, Not only did my Dragons Sanguine die out, now the Angels Vermillion may go khornate. PERFECT

    • @Pink_Noodle
      @Pink_Noodle 5 років тому +5

      You can still justify running armies of them by having survivors lost in the warp during space travel

    • @axaldusteliora2956
      @axaldusteliora2956 5 років тому +11

      @@Pink_Noodle I mean, I do have primaris survivors, but they have more or less too prideful and filled with respect to revive the chapter, aka they did a last stand and lost everything they were tasked to protect, so now they serve as a ghost force of 52 Marines known as the Carmine Vines

    • @rexlumontad8078
      @rexlumontad8078 5 років тому

      Axaldus Teliora Ouch

  • @salamut2202
    @salamut2202 5 років тому +73

    What is it about angelic chapters being heretics?
    Also, the Eightfold Path, you say? Indeed, this chapter seem to be Buddhist :P

    • @draxthemsklonst
      @draxthemsklonst 5 років тому +28

      Imperial Palace on Terra is in/on the Himilayas. Coincidence?

    • @Kaiserland111
      @Kaiserland111 5 років тому +2

      @@draxthemsklonst Illuminati confirmed.

    • @thesinfultictac5704
      @thesinfultictac5704 5 років тому +8

      The Emperor is really Siddhartha Gautama who realized that to achieve enlightenment, you gotta break some heads.

    • @Astavyastataa
      @Astavyastataa 4 роки тому +2

      Daily reminder that Buddhism is a gross heresy against the true paths of Vedic Dharma.

    • @Jesus_Offical
      @Jesus_Offical 4 роки тому +1

      @@draxthemsklonst i think not

  • @asaenvolk
    @asaenvolk 5 років тому +39

    The ritual does sound inanely Kornish. Its like appeasing your Korn tainted curse by feeding it, its a STUPIDLY bad idea.

    • @VoiceOfTheEmperor
      @VoiceOfTheEmperor 5 років тому +3

      Depends on the band. (AKA your spelling reminded me of the band Korn.)

    • @asaenvolk
      @asaenvolk 5 років тому +4

      @@jesseberg3271 Yes, he would, but it starts small, but builds over time, notice the part where it is claimed that over time the rituals became more brutal.

    • @jamescawl6904
      @jamescawl6904 5 років тому +3

      @@asaenvolk much like the Emperors children.

    • @asaenvolk
      @asaenvolk 5 років тому +2

      @@jamescawl6904 Eh, a bit, more the Emperors Children just invaded the wrong planet and took home tainted trophies

    • @jamescawl6904
      @jamescawl6904 5 років тому +2

      @@asaenvolk or much like the thousand sons.
      Trying to cure an affliction that is caused by warp fuckery and using warp fuckery to cure it.

  • @pspicer777
    @pspicer777 5 років тому +33

    If they killed ppl looking for safety with them, then they most certainly are damned.

  • @fumarc4501
    @fumarc4501 5 років тому +8

    Rather then face their cursed blessing, they would sacrifice all of the Imperium and besmirch the name of Sanguinius to save themselves... they cannot be allowed the survive!

  • @derrabbit7289
    @derrabbit7289 5 років тому +50

    Two of the founding legions are close to being vampires in space, the Night Lords and the Blood Angels. I figure if the sides of traitors and loyalists were reversed, the Blood Angels would truly become space vampires while the Night Lords would become an army Batmans

    • @rexlumontad8078
      @rexlumontad8078 5 років тому +2

      Der Rabbit It happened in Roboutian Heresy

    • @Ulvetann
      @Ulvetann 4 роки тому +1

      I have seen a tabletop army of Batmarines be fielded... ...With the batmanlogo as chest-pieces. I called heresy right there.

    • @ian7809
      @ian7809 3 роки тому

      @@Ulvetann If that's heresy then call me the anti Christ because that sounds awesome

  • @nowhereman6019
    @nowhereman6019 5 років тому +85

    Sanguinius would be disappointed in these sons.

    • @Abdega
      @Abdega 5 років тому +20

      Thank the Emperor, Sanguinius isn’t around to see this

    • @poodlescone9700
      @poodlescone9700 5 років тому +11

      You mean thank Horus.

    • @jamescawl6904
      @jamescawl6904 5 років тому +3

      @@poodlescone9700 good one

    • @5thlegion123
      @5thlegion123 5 років тому

      And he wouldn't be sad about the Flesh Tearers or the Knights of Blood 🤔?

    • @jamescawl6904
      @jamescawl6904 5 років тому +9

      @@5thlegion123 at least the flesh tearers only killz those on the battlefield.
      They dont kill civvies outside of battlefields.

  • @thetsarofall8666
    @thetsarofall8666 5 років тому +93

    Funnily enough i got this notification directly after finishing your other video about khorne's gift to the blood angels.

  • @ronanchristiana.belleza9270
    @ronanchristiana.belleza9270 5 років тому +23

    This is an INSULT TO MY BROTHER
    THIS CHAPTER NEEDS TO BE DISBAND!!

    • @Jesus_Offical
      @Jesus_Offical 4 роки тому

      You can Do That Youre The Lord Commander

    • @spartanalex9006
      @spartanalex9006 3 роки тому

      Give their relics and wargear to the Lamenters. They deserve it.

  • @cadet1ice
    @cadet1ice 5 років тому +29

    It's a question of when, not if, Dante will destroy the Angels Vermillion.

    • @kelman727
      @kelman727 5 років тому +4

      cadet1ice
      Tyranids nearly did the job for him. Now the majority of the BA and their successors are Primaris Marines.

  • @WAcrobat19
    @WAcrobat19 5 років тому +47

    I'm a simple man. If I see a theory/video relating to descendants of the 9th Legion Astartes, then I click.

  • @Self-replicating_whatnot
    @Self-replicating_whatnot 5 років тому +4

    I can very well imagine that Angels Vermilion suffering fever and fever cases of Black Rage is the sign of them falling further away from the connection to their primarch through the blood rituals they perform. In the sense of those rituals slowly transforming them from blood angels sucessor chapter into something else entirely.

  • @RecoveringLoLAddict
    @RecoveringLoLAddict 5 років тому +114

    I'm early let me tell a joke
    *Red Ultramarines*

    • @SawedOffLaser
      @SawedOffLaser 5 років тому +2

      What about their techmarines?

    • @poodlescone9700
      @poodlescone9700 5 років тому +4

      Red Smurfs are canon.

    • @mouseketeery
      @mouseketeery 5 років тому +2

      They exist, they're called the Genesis Chapter. They're so alike they can borrow marines off each other to fill gaps in their ranks without any difficulty - not talking about Aspirants or Scouts, but full Battle Brothers. They even live 'next door' to each other, Galactically speaking.

    • @christophercary9918
      @christophercary9918 5 років тому

      Ha

    • @CM-os7ie
      @CM-os7ie 5 років тому +1

      mouseketeery
      Its also what Gabriel Seth called Primaris Blood Angels

  • @poodlescone9700
    @poodlescone9700 5 років тому +36

    Man Emperor of Mankind: The sons of my favorite bird boy are forgiven. Now go forth and wreck Chaos and Xenos' shit with glorious melee.

    • @Nyghtking
      @Nyghtking 5 років тому +6

      But what would he say about the angels vermillion willing to disgrace the name of his favorite bird boy? They said themselves his name would be related to horror.

    • @poodlescone9700
      @poodlescone9700 5 років тому +4

      [Psychic fingers in ears]
      Lalalalalalalalala...
      Go find a fix for the Golden Throne. That will keep you Angels Vermillion occupied for a few millenia.

  • @jasonpippirilly356
    @jasonpippirilly356 5 років тому +22

    I’m a simple servant of the Great Angel. I see Dante thumbnail, I put my like to the video

  • @shipmate3577
    @shipmate3577 5 років тому +24

    Not much different than how the Emperor powers the Golden Throne.

    • @EternalQuestion
      @EternalQuestion 5 років тому +5

      True, but I suppose that is out of necessity, since the entire galaxy would probably be ripped apart by demons without the emperor constantly holding back the chaos gods in the warp... What a lovely place the 41st millennium is, eh?

    • @iamdream2562
      @iamdream2562 5 років тому +4

      Chris Dawkins You could make the argument that what the angels vermillion do is also out of necessity, to prevent space marines from succumbing to the black rage and slaughtering everything. Besides, the Flesh Tearers, Soul Drinkers, Mortifactors, and several other chapters are just as bad.

    • @Harry-lo8ll
      @Harry-lo8ll 4 роки тому

      I am Dream A single chapter of space marines joining the ruinous powers is more manageable than having an army of daemons pour out of a warp rift to murder fuck every life form in the galaxy.

  • @InsomniaRex
    @InsomniaRex 5 років тому +8

    We need a new Dante model, for such a great leader and him now being the highest ranked, below only Guilliman himself he needs a much more robust and ornate armour set. I love the old model but it's just not grand enough for a warrior of his age and status.

    • @boboayame2065
      @boboayame2065 5 років тому +1

      It's also a reminder of a time when everything wasn't overdesigned fragile plastic bullshit for 5 times the price, a fool and their money are soon parted though so I'm sure you'll get your wish soon.

    • @InsomniaRex
      @InsomniaRex 5 років тому +1

      @@boboayame2065 ty for that wonderfully sarcastic reply. Keep up that chipped shoulder.

  • @SeraphimRoad
    @SeraphimRoad 5 років тому +19

    Meanwhile 1000 psyckers are sacrificed daily to the corp...I mean holy God-Emperor to keep him alive

    • @eddie1181
      @eddie1181 5 років тому +2

      It's far more than 1000 these days haha

    • @arizonaranger2612
      @arizonaranger2612 4 роки тому

      You mean the manly man emperor of mankind

  • @meanderingshade
    @meanderingshade 5 років тому +7

    Even from back in the 2nd ed Angels of Death codex I believe it was hinted that the Angels Vermillion leaned more heavily into their vampiric side out of all of the many offshoots of the Blood Angels.
    All of this updated narrative about them is really interesting and entertaining. It's really nice to see more successors getting fleshed out backgrounds in the setting.

  • @joevidya
    @joevidya 5 років тому +14

    Do you hear that? It's annoyed Khorne yelling from the warp for them to hurry up and turn to chaos already.

    • @markusnavergard2387
      @markusnavergard2387 5 років тому +2

      Khorne merely annoyed? must be haveing a off day

    • @seanpeacock4290
      @seanpeacock4290 5 років тому +1

      Khorne doesn't want that blood, it wasn't harvested in combat.
      Slanesh on the other hand...

    • @Tacoguy1000
      @Tacoguy1000 5 років тому +1

      Sean Peacock Khorne cares not where the blood flow...

  • @tungstenwall474
    @tungstenwall474 5 років тому +8

    Its 40K! How bad could the Angels Vermillion be...?
    Later:
    I think I would have preferred being oppressed by Xeno... (Save BDSM elves)

  • @SEBWS
    @SEBWS 5 років тому +8

    Ain’t no one told the Angles Vermillion that snitches get stitches 🤔

  • @EternalQuestion
    @EternalQuestion 5 років тому +6

    This is why I like the wolves. Didn't bother making any successor chapters (we'll just ignore that one time that didn't work out so great...), don't have to worry about this kind of shit. And if anyone else commits atrocities against civilians, Logan is quite happy to teleport onto their flagship and behead an inquisitor or two until they stop.
    A bit of casual bestiality is surely worth it for such peace of mind.

    • @pierrelindgren5727
      @pierrelindgren5727 5 років тому

      Same with the Salamanders. Only less furry and heretical.
      Though part of it is, I suspect the chapters specially designated gene seed along with that of the Alpha Legion that have prevented any use of it for new chapters. At least openly.

    • @blackdove8254
      @blackdove8254 5 років тому

      Not to mention that Russ is the only loyalist primarch who injured and cornered Horus..

    • @dominicvucic8654
      @dominicvucic8654 5 років тому

      they didn't choose not to make successors they couldn't there geneseed is fucked up

    • @collinfulling3223
      @collinfulling3223 5 років тому +1

      FFFFUUUUUUUUCKING FURRIES

    • @Gustav_Kuriga
      @Gustav_Kuriga 5 років тому

      Well technically it's just humans on Fenris. There are no wolves.

  • @dagonofthedepths
    @dagonofthedepths 5 років тому +4

    When I was going through the Devastation of Bhaal and Dante said common in Knights of Blood (which are like an even worst version of the Flesh Tearers) and he said hell no to the Angels Vermillion, I was like, "What the hell did they do!?"After looking it up, yeah that is some Khorne worshiper crap.

  • @commissarlugh1040
    @commissarlugh1040 5 років тому +9

    Holy shit i can only imagine the rage Dante must feel

    • @rexlumontad8078
      @rexlumontad8078 5 років тому +2

      Commissar Lugh Pure unadulterated rage

  • @thesinfultictac5704
    @thesinfultictac5704 5 років тому +5

    Man 40K artists sure do love Low Angle shots when doing the art for Blood Angels.

  • @frankmaybury5292
    @frankmaybury5292 5 років тому +2

    I think its just that the Angels vermilion raise the fear of falling into Khorne's worship in a way that even the flesh tearer's do not. Both do not seem to hold civilians in any real regard but the FT chapter does it in combat and not in ritual observance. In the grand scheme of things one seems better than the other. The blood god does not care from where the blood flows, and sacrificing a sanguinary priest smacks of heresy.

  • @AnimeSunglasses
    @AnimeSunglasses 5 років тому +3

    Ey, Guv'nor! 'eresy meter's broke! Look, the needle's all bent PAST the "Maximum Heresy" mark!
    Never seen that before, usually th' needle don't even move from that mark...

  • @bluebuda8170
    @bluebuda8170 5 років тому +10

    Were the original Raptors Chapter marines Corax's super marine Raptors? if so wouldn't their gene-seed be better?

    • @lordcommanderdante4267
      @lordcommanderdante4267 5 років тому +1

      No that’s just what they were called

    • @bluebuda8170
      @bluebuda8170 5 років тому

      Lord Commander Dante
      thanks. what happened to them?

    • @lordcommanderdante4267
      @lordcommanderdante4267 5 років тому +2

      Michael Barney during the heresy since most of them were infected with daemon blood because of alpha legion sabotage and Corax used the less stable ones as meatshields while the rest were used as shock troops. In the end they all devolved and Corax was forced to euthanize them. I think you should read Lexicanum and the wiki and/or 1d4chan if you would like more information

    • @Edithae
      @Edithae 5 років тому +1

      @@bluebuda8170
      The Raptors who were mutated by the Alpha Legions sabotage werr eventuslly euthanized by Corax.
      However, the initial cohort of Raptors were free from mutation as they were inducted prior to the Alpha Legions sabotage.

    • @bluebuda8170
      @bluebuda8170 5 років тому

      Edithae
      thats what i thought. surely a few survived

  • @brandonaughtman9091
    @brandonaughtman9091 5 років тому +7

    I can only guess that Chapter Master Dante will have to one day attack both the Angels Vermillion and Angels Penitent to the hopes to but down their near heresy level of acts. Cleaning house, Vampire style.

    • @MrTurbowhitey
      @MrTurbowhitey 5 років тому +2

      It's not the first time something like that happened to a "Loyalist Legion" if the Lion ever gets the fuck up from his rock tomb, angel blood will flow

    • @jamescawl6904
      @jamescawl6904 5 років тому +2

      @@MrTurbowhitey But the Lord Cypher is the most loyal son of The Lion.

    • @danishsyed1068
      @danishsyed1068 5 років тому +1

      the Angels Penitent aren't around anymore due to Xenos that attacked Baal as for Vermillion Gilman's new warriors won't stay silent for long

    • @dominicvucic8654
      @dominicvucic8654 5 років тому

      @@danishsyed1068its not confirmed that they are gone and the first company is still out there

  • @highlandoutsider
    @highlandoutsider 5 років тому +8

    "A friend in need's a friend indeed, a friend who'll bleed is better" lol

  • @ernestolorenzobornales188
    @ernestolorenzobornales188 5 років тому +8

    The depiction of Captain Fen's voice is just similar how a Dragoon speaks in Starcraft

  • @matrixtrollmarine
    @matrixtrollmarine 5 років тому +4

    well, fact that angels vermillion chapter being closet cannibals in it's entirety is an open secret amongst blood angels and their successors, and since we know how knights of blood were looking at the near end of devastation of baal, it wouldn't be far fetched, since it is known khorne has a big hard on for the angels just as much slaanesh does. Though if we consider the older fluff about blood god, i'd say this mechanized slaughter of innocents would avert the blood god's gaze just as much as black rage.. since back then khorne was pretty big on fighting worthy foes in open battles..

  • @darrianweathington1923
    @darrianweathington1923 5 років тому +9

    Ah, another offshoot of the Bloodthirsty-Emo hawkboys. Ima strap in for this.

  • @DaimoHope
    @DaimoHope 5 років тому +4

    See, this is why Tzeentch worship is best. No bloodletting. Just random mutations and arcane power. I for one welcome the blue bird of change.

    • @poodlescone9700
      @poodlescone9700 5 років тому +2

      That and play a children's card game for all enternity.

    • @MrTurbowhitey
      @MrTurbowhitey 5 років тому +2

      Nerd god playing D&D for eternity

    • @DaimoHope
      @DaimoHope 5 років тому

      @@MrTurbowhitey yeah and?

  • @Penguinmustache
    @Penguinmustache 5 років тому +6

    Still not as bad, or as hated as the Marines Malevolent.

    • @MrTurbowhitey
      @MrTurbowhitey 5 років тому +2

      Another fine "Loyalist Chapter"

    • @JJumper8888
      @JJumper8888 5 років тому +1

      Even tho the MM are bastards in their purest form, I somehow like them😂

  • @Tommy9834
    @Tommy9834 5 років тому +4

    Honestly, even if they ratted out the Blood Angels, I'm sure first founding privledge would have saved them

  • @JPLOWMAN2
    @JPLOWMAN2 5 років тому +3

    I’ve been thinking about what the situation would be like if the Loyalist and Traitor Legions were flipped during the Heresy, about what would happen if Guilliman and the others were the ones who betrayed the Emperor while Horus and his crew fought against them. How’s this sound?
    1. Guilliman would be the new Lorgar. Horrified that the Emperor had forced his Legion to destroy Monarchia in his name, he would seek some answer as to why the Emperor was so determined to deny the existence of the supernatural, and learn about the true nature of the Warp in the process. I could see him turning as his desire to have everything under his control could lead him to become obsessive. I would also think Guilliman would try to establish Imperium Secundus to show the Emperor that they were in charge, and he might even nominate Sanguinius for the role of leadership.
    2. I could see both the Blood Angels with their blood-drinking fetish and the Space Wolves with their uncontrollable bestial rage leading either of them becoming disciples of Khorne, or perhaps even both - It might be interesting for their two Legions to have an eternal rivalry for the Blood God’s favor.
    3. I could also see Blood Angels falling to Slaaneshi worship, since behind the scenes they’re so obsessed with proving to themselves that they’re not monsters by making beautiful works of art. And with Sanguinius being seemingly perfect but him knowing deep down he’s flawed, it could be just enough to push him towards an endless search for ‘perfection’.
    4. I could see Lion as a possible candidate for Warmaster in place of Horus - replacing a Wolf with a Lion is an interesting way to mix it up. And it would make some sort of sense for him to become Warmaster, since his was the first Legion. Alternatively, their pension for keeping secrets might make them appealing to Tzeentch, or make them a counter to the Alpha Legion.
    5. Imperial Fists is a hard one to call. Maybe they could become a counterpoint to the Iron Warriors, though I would probably place the Iron Hands as the tech-based heretical Legion. They could be possible Nurgle worshippers... Nurgle’s Fists? Maybe?
    6. Iron Hands = See Imperial Fists example.
    7. White Scars I’m of two minds on. On the one hand, they have a history of sorcery that could lead to them worshipping Tzeentch. On the other hand, when I think of the idea of traitor White Scars, the term ‘Blight Scars’ keeps coming into my head. It’s possible, right?
    8. Raven Guard could either take the Alpha Legion path and be involved with espionage, or maybe go the full Night Lords and turn into flying blood-crazed loonie birds.
    9. Wouldn’t Vulkan make a tragic Warmaster? He probably would’ve started the Heresy out of a desire to protect those who were being lied to by the Emperor, only to end up causing more harm than good. Other than that, there’s a lot of ways you could go with the Salamanders - Huge scary dudes with glowing red eyes and charcoal black skin would make intimidating villains. Almost as if they were some kind of black legion? Okay it’s cheap, but I had to add that in somewhere. Otherwise, they could make use of the impressive toys Vulkan likes to make in his spare time, or perhaps become Nurgle-worshippers who like to make the best use of their acidic attacks by spitting at their enemies. Or they could make scary-looking dragon-themed Khorne worshippers.

  • @KRESHNEVIC
    @KRESHNEVIC 5 років тому +2

    Dante becomes Lord Commander of Imperium Nilus. Guilliman leaves Ball. Dante calls together all the succesor chapter masters to a secret meeting they all cast there votes they all unanimously agree the first order of business is to remove the stain of the Angles Vermilion

  • @0lderSch00l
    @0lderSch00l 4 роки тому +1

    I love how utterly screwed the space marines are and how little unification there actually is in the Emperium. It makes for harrowing times, but really good stories.

  • @NemFX
    @NemFX 5 років тому +5

    Honestly they might be onto something. Just not quite right. The blood of Sanguinius is the thing helping them. In the Blood Angels omnibus, they use one of the.. conversion coffins (I forgot the name) to purge the bad stuff out of a marine. The clan of the pure blood, ironically enough has impure blood.

  • @GenralG7
    @GenralG7 5 років тому +11

    Das a big power axe

  • @johnw9141
    @johnw9141 5 років тому +1

    It's likely the mirror on the dark side of blood angels that had the largest impact their actions just reinforced the underlying fear and shame of taint that Dante holds.

  • @a.gravemistake3061
    @a.gravemistake3061 5 років тому +2

    Angels Vermillion don't have first captains, they have thirst captains.

  • @linusretired4183
    @linusretired4183 5 років тому +5

    I subscribed 10 minutes before the notification

    • @tomtommerson6320
      @tomtommerson6320 5 років тому

      probably what he was waiting for before he upload. Good job.

  • @metallicaman4able
    @metallicaman4able 5 років тому +2

    shame, I thought it was because they borrowed Dante's hedgetrimmer 700 years ago and never returned it.

  • @willrogers3793
    @willrogers3793 5 років тому +2

    I imagine the Lamenters getting the news that Baal was under siege and being about to come to their parent chapter’s aid, when some arse of an Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor just steps in and waves his finger like “y’all are STILL on a penitent crusade, don’t be getting any funny ideas”.

    • @nrais76
      @nrais76 4 роки тому

      Not to mention all the chapter masters of the Blood Angels successors falling over themselves to be like "nah, we got enough guys you don't have to come. (Aside: what's that old Terran ritual for good luck again? Something to do with salt?)"

  • @MrTolgarion
    @MrTolgarion 5 років тому +1

    Honestly a simple solution here. Annual planet-wide blood drives for the "Guard at the battle fronts" collect the blood over 50 years in a stasis chamber and sacrifice one Astartes at the end or do the same thing there with the Astartes blood. No loss of innocent life and Astartes and you still have all the blood you need. Next challenge!

  • @donperez8774
    @donperez8774 5 років тому +5

    From the Blood Ravens Vaults: a vox recording believed to be of Primarch Konrad Curze, at the end of the Heresy era.
    "So, I'm talking to Sanguinius on my last night hanging out at his pad in the soon-to-be Unremembered Empire, and we start talking about the kids. 'Bro,' I tell him, 'I've seen what's going down. My brood are just violent screw-ups thinking their atrocities are going to win points from their daddy. Too bad for them I stopped giving a damn about 'em, and they're just going to be carnage carnies in space. But yours ... oh boy, good guy vampires serving a superstitious lot that would burn them at the stake.'
    The Angel gets all huffy, saying it's not his fault and I just laugh. 'It's always our fault! We got Wonder Dad on the gold chair being the biggest hypocrite in the galaxy, claiming we're perfection when he slipped in a bunch of untested weird genes that really aren't working out in order to make us demigods -- tell me, do I look like perfection and a god? Does Mortarion smell like an angel? And then guys like you and me attracting the eyes of things he doesn't tell us about, except Magnus -- and he's freaking out because his Space Marines are growing eyes on their noses and turning inside out, all while he's too ignorant to realize that warp he dabbles with IS the reason they're mutating. And of course Dad being Dad, he drops off the muties and leaves Magnus to figure warp magic and DNA issues out alone -- and look where that got him. You think Dad is going to help you figure this one out if you get to Earth? Might as well be Angron, and he was stupid enough to ask Lorgar for help with his hair.'
    "I must have hit a nerve, cause Sang just froze and did the Munch scream, and that second sight of mine -- thanks, Dad -- showed me it was freaking out his kids down the road. A bunch of pale, fanged Space Marines that would be mistaken for Drukhari 'roid rejects, with blood dribbling down their chins, screaming for heretic burgers and snarfing down shroom-skins. 'Eat, my brothers! EAT!'
    "Hey humanity, sorry to tell you: we're boned, and it just gets worse from here on. But on the bright side, ya'll taste like fine pork chops. One of the first things I learned, by the way -- oh so civilized Dad gave me cannibalism perks. So do yourself a favor and head off to places getting terrorized by warp spawn, giant bugs from another galaxy or Angels Vermillion and ask to be eaten first. (Slurps evilly) Let the galaxy charbroil, piggies."

    • @luckyleo25
      @luckyleo25 5 років тому +1

      Oh priceless!!! 😂🤣

    • @soliar5209
      @soliar5209 4 роки тому +1

      Ok first how do you getting in our vault . Second what did you steal from the vault

  • @angelo70
    @angelo70 4 роки тому +2

    Watching this before dinner was a mistake...

  • @princecortez1418
    @princecortez1418 5 років тому +2

    This popped up while finishing up a chapter in The Devastation of Baal where the Angels Vermillion showed. Are you sure you're not CIA?

  • @maithfull
    @maithfull 5 років тому +1

    sounds very similar to the warrior lodges the idea can be made to sound good but they are slowly and surely succumbing to their inner desires and flaws instead of building up a resistance through moderate indulgence to placate the beast within in the end all paths in the warhammer and 40k worlds lead to the powers of chaos it's all about resisting and fighting against the inevitable end or a new beginning depending on the view point

  • @paulellington1505
    @paulellington1505 Рік тому +1

    I like how each of the successor chapters of the Blood Angels all have different gene seed mutations and deal with the Black Rage and the Red Thirst in different ways. It gives them all an interesting twist. The Devastation of Baal has this in spades.

  • @MayonnaiseVenusaur
    @MayonnaiseVenusaur 4 роки тому +1

    What they did is wrong, but that's their business. I rest easy knowing the Angels Encarmine are Dante's favorites.

  • @SpoonieMcspoonington
    @SpoonieMcspoonington 5 років тому +1

    This is the reason i adore the blood angels they walk the fine line between Loved paragons of the Emperors astartes and Hated Heretical monsters, The Angels Vermillion going down this path dont suffer from the black rage as much but have to get worse and worse to stave it off, while those that dont do these horrible acts are more likely to suffer the black rage, Khorne may hate trickery but this is one horribly tricky move hes pulled.

  • @exactinmidget92
    @exactinmidget92 5 років тому +1

    You know you fucked up when the help of a traitor chapter is preferred over yours.

  • @jamesgarratt9334
    @jamesgarratt9334 5 років тому +2

    I wonder why the Lamenters could not arrive at Baal in time ?
    Oh wait :(
    (Cries in Lamenters)

    • @markusnavergard2387
      @markusnavergard2387 5 років тому +1

      a lament for the lamentors?

    • @dominicvucic8654
      @dominicvucic8654 5 років тому

      yeah going from 500 to 200 hundred marines in 3.5 seconds is a problem isn't it

    • @CollinBuckman
      @CollinBuckman 5 років тому

      They were too busy to take Dante's call. I wouldn't be surprised if they rushed to Baal after surviving the Tyranids only to find the battle long over.

  • @sprucebruce3819
    @sprucebruce3819 3 роки тому +1

    Khorne worshiping blood angels would be worse than world eaters.

  • @MiddleAgedGuy73
    @MiddleAgedGuy73 5 років тому +3

    I think we'll find out what Dante intends in a future book if we're lucky!

  • @fjLKA
    @fjLKA 5 років тому +2

    Why don't they just use a normal blood bank for the Sorrowing? No death needed.

    • @DaimoHope
      @DaimoHope 5 років тому +1

      Not grimdark enough

    • @jamescawl6904
      @jamescawl6904 5 років тому

      @@DaimoHope If they could use the blood of children then it would be better.
      It needs to be more grimdark.

  • @kingbaldwiniv5409
    @kingbaldwiniv5409 5 років тому +4

    Some of the Angels Vermillion made good on their commitment when they were hammered while coming to aid Baal.
    They admitted fault and came to make a sacrifice of themselves.
    As far as the rest of their chapter, whatever remains of the hundred, I can't remember if any of them remained after the battle, should be held aside and the remainder of the primaris and normal Blood Angels successor chapters should be led in a scouring of the main host of the Angels Vermillion.
    This is a great application of the new primaris sons of Sanguinius.

  • @barbatosmcmurderton4209
    @barbatosmcmurderton4209 5 років тому +1

    I never understood the point of slaughtering a ton of people every 50 years. Couldn't they get the same results by having every adult on their home world give compulsory blood donations every couple of months?

    • @nrais76
      @nrais76 4 роки тому

      That wouldn't satisfy the Khorne and Slaanesh corrupted sanguinary priests, though, so no.

  • @triratna1397
    @triratna1397 5 років тому +2

    WHY SIGMAR'S STORMCAST ETERNAL ON THUMB?
    ... oh wait

  • @NingenSlayerZamasu
    @NingenSlayerZamasu 5 років тому +3

    Just did multiple maps for MvM Canteen Crash and now I can watch this and relax.

  • @badhoplite7299
    @badhoplite7299 5 років тому +2

    Hey i think the Chapter badge you used for the angels Vermillion is Wrong. The one you Used is for the Angels Encarmine. The Angels Vermillion Badge is a Blood Drop with Batwings.

    • @badhoplite7299
      @badhoplite7299 5 років тому +4

      right I checked and either the Wikis are Wrong or My 'Chapters Of the Adeptus Astartes' Poster is Wrong.

  • @Malakren
    @Malakren 5 років тому +1

    Easy have Astorath lead them into glorious battle... for a last time

  • @MrGrim
    @MrGrim 5 років тому +1

    The hypocrisy of the wolves and the blood angels is truly, truly staggering.

  • @SyndicateCrypto
    @SyndicateCrypto 5 років тому +1

    The Angels Vermillion did nothing wrong. What about the 2 Angels Vermillion who were killed? Where is their justice? 2 of the Blood Angels marines should of been demanded in return and sacrificed.

  • @mcmarkmarkson7115
    @mcmarkmarkson7115 5 років тому +1

    Some atrocity here and there prevents heresy all day! Sounds legit to me. The emprah sacrifices many a soul just to keep alive.

  • @metallicaman4able
    @metallicaman4able 5 років тому +2

    they figured out he is actually Alpharius.

  • @markusnavergard2387
    @markusnavergard2387 5 років тому +1

    soon the sons of the angel will chant " blood for the blood god"

  • @TDBoedy
    @TDBoedy 5 років тому +1

    the Chapter Master could have been lying. The whole mutually assured destruction thing might lose it's power if one party controls 1/3 of the galaxy effectively.

  • @NetMoverSitan
    @NetMoverSitan 5 років тому

    0:46 - (monotone) All hail Big Papa Ultrasmurf. | 2:10 - The same hive fleet that the Blood Ravens dealt with. | 3:25 - Vermillion...as in Red...as in Red Angel...that might imply that they're loyalist World Eaters, but we can rule that out as they have the Black Rage and the Red Thirst. | Although, even the Blood Angels have standards, how bad must the Angels Vermillion be for the FLESH TEARERS to be better?!

  • @darthbane1629
    @darthbane1629 5 років тому +1

    Well He Had Good Reason, Good Work as always 😎,May Emperor Protect you 😎!!!.

  • @williamamely7038
    @williamamely7038 5 років тому +1

    The Flesh Tearers, as well as, the Vermillion are endangering Sanguinius' legacy. From the most noble of all the Emperor's Legions, the Blood Angels, and their successors could instead become the most Damned. The Dark Angels could identify with the Blood Angels, as the hunt for the Fallen has cost many innocent lives. Plus both Chapters could face the wrath of the Inquisition should their respective secrets become known to all.

  • @eccoeco3454
    @eccoeco3454 5 років тому +1

    *The Blood makes us men, the Blood makes us more than men, the Blood makes us men no more*

  • @mattalluisi3954
    @mattalluisi3954 5 років тому +1

    Khorne has entered the chat

  • @jackwong4198
    @jackwong4198 5 років тому +2

    Question:does dante ever got black rage?

    • @40KTheories
      @40KTheories  5 років тому +3

      He almost succumbed to it during the Devastation of Baal, but managed to regain his composure at the last moment.

  • @chrisf7730
    @chrisf7730 5 років тому +1

    I can remember reading the sorrowing section in the 'Dante' book, it was an eye opener

  • @chrisleonard2066
    @chrisleonard2066 5 років тому +1

    EXCOMUNICATE TRAITORIS ET HERETICUS
    What absolute nightmares.

  • @Jingle12349
    @Jingle12349 5 років тому +2

    I am a simple man, I see daddy Dante I like.

  • @GutsOfRivia
    @GutsOfRivia 5 років тому +1

    cool now update his rules GW hes not worth 175 pts