Hey! We love this - particularly your concise explanation of why anonymity is so important and the significance of the information that can be gleaned from metadata. Keep up the good work. - The Loki Team
@@belletable147 Of course Windows knows everything. So does Intel or AMD since they control your CPU. Your BIOS should be okay, but who knows. Also your graphics drivers can see things as well. Don't forget your keyboard drivers, and maybe physical keyboard if you have something fancy. I hope you don't use Bluetooth.
@onzi tam I agree! I use Telegram linked to a phone number that has not existed for more than 3 years, because I am tired of the phone, I don't want to pay for it, I don't need this service in my life. So if I reinstall my operating system, I will never be able to log into Telegram again.
@@W_0_W If you happen to have another device, like a computer (laptop or desktop), you can log into your account. For me, it send a code through telegram, not SMS.
Anonymously communicating is pretty difficult when there is no one to communicate with. Unless I acquire the divine illness known as schizophrenia and make myself a nice tulpa, that's not going to be a problem. But in that case telepathy is better anyway, and it's what I already use to talk to myself. Technology is inherently bloated when you can just use your madness to solve all of your problems.
Obviously you haven’t discovered the joys of back-stabbing friends. I mean it’s not like you have to do a lot of sexting to encounter other packets of awareness whose loci is centered within the heart of a meat machine.
@@tanmaydeshpande same for me i tryed much; telegram is much better than whats app more secure and don't has file size restrictions like whats app do and groups has more members and has more fun features than whats app like animated emojis and animated stickers, bots,gifs chanels and now it has voice chat
I use signal with only one person. Unfortunately regular people are hard to convince. They don’t want to lose convenience and only use what is popular.
Switching to Telegram meant dropping out a few contacts unwilling to change, going on to Signal lost more, this will really shorten the list and what I really want is to move over to Briar, another Tor based messenger with no servers.
My issue with session is that they have a high cost of entry to run a node. It’s this way to prevent governments from spinning up a ton of nodes and running a Sybil attack, but in real life it kinda just prevents individuals from spinning up nodes. Governments can afford to run lots of nodes if that means spying on their citizens, where citizens can’t afford to put 1,000$ into running a session node. I’ve had my eyes on berty for a while, they seem to be like session but better.
Having a problem with Tor because it might be unsecure is like having a problem with water because it might catch on fire. It's literally considered a national security threat by the US govt.
I'd like to share that based on comparison Signal and Wire and Telegram and Element seem to be the Best currently, Element seems to have the least bugs though. I have a problem with making calls though via Element, no idea yet why
then don't, let them sit with it for a while and let them make the change or start thinking for themselves. This is a lifestyle change and it takes years for people to make a habit or mindset.
Yeah its useless to switch for now because it was tough for me to even switch other of my friends to signal and now switching them to another messaging service is not what I should do.
Hey Outlaw, I want to ask you a question. What is a good way to get in contact? In terms of both Session and Briar, doesn't the lack of bulk use of Tor create a red flag in and of itself?
@@teamrabbitalecjust route EVERYTHING through Tor and have a separate Tor session for your privacy related stuff. That way it doesn't look sus, or after a while it doesn't, they'll just think you're schizo.
I think it should be kept to a small-band width. So down grade or compress audio to, say, the old telephone standard. This will improve security - short low density messaging. Forget large video or audio files and concentrate on real-time voice interaction and sms, eMails (possibly with mms type attachments). Essentially, drop back to an encrypted telephone (as a wireless antenna) coupled to an encrypted modem (terminal device) connected to an encrypted user device (mic and headphones from a "computer device"). Three levels of encryption before it even gets on the airwaves (with the plain text source and destination packet fields created in the modem and antenna, of course).
And don't forget to back up all your device, public and contact keys onto a few encrypted USB sticks. That way you can press the self-destruct buttons on any of your "disposable encryption devices".
Have used Session for a year, switching people to it is tough but with the people i have communicated with it, it is pretty good. Occasionally, some times messages dont reach me even though the sender has sent it. But except that part, it is pretty good.
Most people don't give a damn about privacy, I am kinda being forced to use whatsapp as none of my workspace colleagues / family / uni friends use anything besides whatsapp for daily communication. I have managed to convince a very few to install signal on side alongside whatsapp
Glad that I found this video and thanks for pointing out that anonymity is another layer to privacy security, however it's also hard to onboard families or friends. On session and briar, I got no one talk to, recently I'm using wiremin where I can DM strangers whom I know from the groups in common. but, is there anything I have to talk about privately with strangers?
It's very difficult to convince people change from Whatsapp to another app, which they will stop using and uninstall sooner or later. I got 2 people to switch to Telegram (which is not better than Whatsapp anyway...). Unfortunately, the privacy thing is as personal as going to the bathroom: you take care of it yourself. If people do not investigate for themselves, there's nothing to do with it...
imo, i would just suggest setting up a KVM and following the guide below: www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/comments/i071qx/spoof_and_make_your_vm_undetectable_no_more/
@@ichthyosaur7883 Thank you I'm new to Linux so I'm still learning. Is there anyway to spoof the ID's without using a VM? Reason being is that I'm building a pc strictly using older parts to circumvent the hardware level backdoors that intel & AMD have so I can have pretty much as private/secure pc that I can get.
@@craigdaniels3749 Well... idk about HWID spoofing, cuz HWID its more of a windows thing (that windows need to identify drivers and whatnot) rather than a linux thing, for linux, a simple update to the kernel will already give the newest drivers needed for the appropriate hardwares and stuff. but imo, if you really wanna get the extra edge of anonymity browsing the net with a live booted os. i suggest to simply look up how to spoof your mac address. since from what i can gather, a mac address is uniquely tied to the hardware that is the NIC (Network card) and maybe look into subnetting and subnet masks, why tf not? Cardboard Turtle's suggestion also looks promising too. alternatively, a vpn is a popular choice these days. oh.. and if you plan to use windows for whatever reason, i recommend looking into Tronscript (Removes Bloat and Telemetry hidden in 10).
@@craigdaniels3749 I also don't understand the paranoia for "hardware level backdoors" i mean they did make them in the first place. ofc they would know full well how the blueprint goes. if you really don't trust them, then buy your stuff from another brand or better yet, take up hardware engineering and learn how to make your own.
only problem what i have to start using these better im services is that their official apps dosnt support horizontal screen for tablet use and that they dosnt know how to compress files if they are over filesize limits. this goes for wire and almost anything.
Nice video thank you for explaining I am interested to hear your top ten of Messengers Including Briar tox cyphertop and matrix All Sound very good to me but i am No Expert
400mb ram is A LOT for messenger! My entire OS require less! If it were written by normal coders on normal language, 10-40 megabytes would be enough. Fuck Electron!
Its an add on to high convinient Telegram .... Daily Blabla over cloud.... Exchange about seriously stuff.... send Bank account stuff change to Session ..... i like it comfortable with the Option to get off the Grid
Shiny websites are really easy to make nowadays, really the less trustworthy ones are the cluttered websites. They have a github with all their code, and you can even see that it is forked directly off of Signal.
@@realsushrey Building it yourself and cross-checking the code, or downloading directly off github download page if available. It's not necessary, really, because nobody has said anything yet, so it's probably good. Trusting nobody does require that technical knowledge, though.
I am curious whether Session's usability is based on its cryptocurrency, and, if it is, if the network will start to be bad if people stop contributing to that.
Don't send messages on it, just use it to advertise your public key. Learn to use `gpg` or a GUI frontend such as Seahorse (a.k.a. GNOME Keyring) or OpenKeychain to manage your keys on your devices.
@@notaboutit3565 I would not know exaclty, I know what it means etc, but as far as security goes some people say POS is not as secure while others disagree. What I gathered from reading their blogs and docs is that they intend to defend the network from sybil attacks by using value of coins, if someone wants to overtake the network he needs to create nodes and stake coins , but as you get more coins price explodes thus making it very expansive to do. Seems nice on the surface, but if it would materialize in the same fashion I don't know.
I need a tutorial on how to make a group chat. I'm so confused, when it says create a session what do I enter as the id? How do I add other people to join into the same chat?
Also, what is your read on these E2EE messaging services appealing directly to the "holy trinity" of Church Woke, namely, journalists, activists, and demonstrators? I get that these stunning and brave people need encryption, but why the ubiquity of messaging?
@@mattcrosby2310, simply because they have a specific and real need for privacy, to such an extent that it's basically pivotal to those activities. It's not that the software is being designed with those groups in mind, it's just that those groups are in need of such software. I can't say I've really seen any E2EE messaging software which says "great for journalists etc.!", it's usually just a generic statement about censorship resistance.
@@mattcrosby2310, I don't mean it in that sense. I mean it in the sense that people such as journalists must ensure privacy in order to do their job properly, else info gets leaked or people's lives end up at stake. The average Joe doesn't need it in that sense, though privacy is still obviously desirable to most people, regardless of their use case. This is why the vast majority of people being apathetic towards more secure solutions than what they currently use, because they don't perceive the barrier to entry as being worth the gain in privacy. Most people seem to prefer convenience over security. For journalists and the like, this is not the case, so they go out of their way to use private methods of communication from the get-go. Your analogy to contraception is like asking why a person carrying HIV is more likely to use it that a person who isn't carrying HIV. AIDS is perceived as such an undesirable disease that HIV carriers have a need for contraception, in the sense used previously. By contrast, the average Joe does not (assuming they don't care about getting their partner pregnant), so they are less likely to use it. That is not to say that Mr. Joe would not reap certain benefits from using contraception; he's just not phased if he doesn't have a condom to hand on this particular Friday night.
@@mattcrosby2310, you're preaching to the choir. I'm not at all stating that some people shouldn't use these services. I'm merely stating that the way your imagined person thinks (dismissing STDs in general because they're only concerned about AIDS) is how the majority of people think about their online privacy - they're simply ignorant of the potential ramifications, or don't care about them. By contrast, almost all journalists etc. already do care about them, or are more likely to suffer such consequences, so the importance of privacy is already at the forefront of their minds, making them more likely to seek out secure communication. No one is saying that you can have secure communication without encryption, it's just that most people don't care about having secure communication.
Please! Keep a link to download it from your website bcuz the Apple Store, n the Play Store luv to hide Apps from ppl. Someone told me that they can’t find it in the App Store even though I downloaded it yesterday, n I can’t find it in the Play Store, they’re showing me all kinds of junk except Session.
The data limit issue is brought up, it's legit like everybody simply just forgot that image/video hosting websites exist. Also, if a video is too big, screenrecord the video. It will make the size of the video roughly 50% it's prior size & if you speed it up by 1.5-2x% speed, the video file will be even smaller, yet again. You can even screen record the screenrecording, and still have it looking decent, despite how much smaller the file is (and what your camera is like). I only resort to the hosting websites when the screenrecoding videos doesn't work/screenshotting images doesn't either (works the same for images, too). Having a phone with a great camera on like the Google Pixel 7 Pro is good and all, but the images/videos never fit anywhere due to their quality, thus large size, too.
@@astagfargamer i've really been trying to recognize it more, lately. more and harder. i feel it deserves it. i'd say i recognize it on average maybe... twice a week
@@uiopuiop3472 You had me until 'that is legal outlaw = illegal' like did your brain get dragged through a chemical vat at that point and just give up or something
This might actually be a legitimately great youtuber, teaching such great things about FOSS and being a realist himself, if he wasn't so fucking greedy and put more ads in a single video than there are total minutes of it. To me this seems like a channel more for finding out which ads youtube has for me other than actually learn something. No hate, just feedback.
I would not suggest Session. The Onion routing function is not working yet and the group behind Session uses proxy servers as a work around. Until it is and third party audits on this are done, its unknown how private it will be. Until then, Signal is still the best. Threema might be a good alternative even though you have to buy a subscription to it.
@@greenjihad3390 yes, it makes sense. I don't use signal but threema for example has been 3rd party audited a few times and now they are open source anyway. Also threema doesn't require any phone number and is from Switzerland where privacy laws are more strict than in other places.
They have a cryptocurrency attaches to the network with a developers holdding account which usually has a fuckton of coins. Users mine them when using sessions, reducing supply thus increasing price. They then dump their bags on users for profit.
The best thing about this video is that he's talking about privacy while using gentoo and firefox himself rather than someone using Windows and chromium browsers 😂. It's like who are these privacy tips for, you are yourself exposed from everywhere.. Great work man👍. Please share some tips about using vpn without loosing latency and performance. On whole device.
Telegram is a closed source and proprietary software run from headquarters situated in a extremely authoritarian monarchy which is an extremely close ally of the country with the most extensive programme for spying on civilians. Not sure how much more insecure you can get.
@@BlommaBaumbart what? Telegram is open-source, why did you say it's closed source if they give you sources for every Telegram application on any device. Second, they say they neither sell any data nor they spy/collaborate with governments, and most of all, their privacy policy doesn't mention any of it. I don't know what a massive privacy violation and scandal it would be if they did, but I still see no user complaining about privacy with Telegram, and in general I don't even see advanced users feeling discontent about it. That's it, I honestly think these are enough proofs to believe we shouldn't worry. But if I am wrong please let me notice it, because it sure would be seriously bad.
@@samueleproiettimicozzi8134 The client you install is open source, the message handling server is not. They said they will open source that eventually, I believe that when they do. Because talk is cheap marketing and provides nothing towards privacy or cybersecurity. Same goes for whatever they say about how they handle the data their servers receive. You see no user complaining about their privacy, but you have no idea and cannot verify whether that is because they don't do anything or because they do massive violations hidden behind a proprietary curtain. Now if I had to, I'd rather use a service which is at least claiming to do nothing wrong rather than one openly exploiting my data like WhatsApp, but if I wanted to use a private communication software, it would not be one which forces me to trust a stranger's server. Trust is the opposite of security.
@@BlommaBaumbart You're right. But if it was open-source, how can they keep their security unbreakable? The MT-PROTO algorithm used by Telegram could be easily hacked if its code was known, I think. I'm no IT security expert so correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, the client being open-source is already something, because with that we can exclude backdoors on devices and telemetry/further privacy violations. Only the use of messages we send to Telegram's servers is still a question.
@@samueleproiettimicozzi8134 You're falling into a fallacy that the proprietary industry sometimes tries to use as an argument. There is no unbreakable security, only risk minimisation. Real cybersecurity always operates on the basis that the attacker knows the system. (Because there's over 7.000.000.000 people in the world and history simply has shown that absolutely anything can and will be cracked by one of them.) Therefor, by keeping it closed source, you're not keeping out attackers, you're preventing potential helpers from fixing your security holes. Linus Torvalds roughly phrases this as "with enough people watching the code, the every bug will be trivial to someone", which mirrors the situation for the attacker. When your code is open source, many professional programmers whose companies rely on your code will check it for errors and apply patches, which in turn will be checked by all the other programmers. This model is proved to work well. Of course the real security is in developing a system which doesn't rely on secrecy of the system, which is what e.g. Session is setting out for For a recent example of problems with closed source, which is equally instructional and terrifying, look at the hack of Solarwinds, a company which touted that open source would make stuff hackable and now has absolutely devasted the internet infrastructure worldwide. The Guardian has an article about it titled "The US has suffered a massive cyberbreach. It's hard to overstate how bad it is". It's good that you ask these questions, by the way. That gives both yourself and the people you ask the opportunity to rethink assumptions and validate ideas.
Hey!
We love this - particularly your concise explanation of why anonymity is so important and the significance of the information that can be gleaned from metadata.
Keep up the good work.
- The Loki Team
oh shit it's actually you
keep up the good work btw
Does Windows know what I'm doing in the Session messaging application?
@@belletable147
Of course Windows knows everything.
So does Intel or AMD since they control your CPU. Your BIOS should be okay, but who knows. Also your graphics drivers can see things as well. Don't forget your keyboard drivers, and maybe physical keyboard if you have something fancy. I hope you don't use Bluetooth.
@@spiralofhope I hope he don't use a computer
ur a glowie
finally. Signal without its annoying part.
whats the annoying part of signal?
@onzi tam I agree! I use Telegram linked to a phone number that has not existed for more than 3 years, because I am tired of the phone, I don't want to pay for it, I don't need this service in my life. So if I reinstall my operating system, I will never be able to log into Telegram again.
@@W_0_W If you happen to have another device, like a computer (laptop or desktop), you can log into your account. For me, it send a code through telegram, not SMS.
@@Neko-kun-dp1hq This is a helpful advice, thanks!
@onzi tam u can buy a virtual mobile number if you want more privacy
Anonymously communicating is pretty difficult when there is no one to communicate with. Unless I acquire the divine illness known as schizophrenia and make myself a nice tulpa, that's not going to be a problem. But in that case telepathy is better anyway, and it's what I already use to talk to myself. Technology is inherently bloated when you can just use your madness to solve all of your problems.
lmfao
Obviously you haven’t discovered the joys of back-stabbing friends. I mean it’s not like you have to do a lot of sexting to encounter other packets of awareness whose loci is centered within the heart of a meat machine.
you can communicate with me if you wanna!
Wow, you've just earned yourself the based award of the month with this one
@@SiddheshScindia Here, have a communication.
As a whole, we are in a pre 9/11 state pertaining to online security and personal data. Thanks for all the great vids MO!
The scary part is that you're right.
Getting people to switch is hard. People don't care about privacy as long as regular people cannot snoop on their stuff.
@Mialisus ahhh yess👍👍👍🤠
Yes it's hard to convince them to use privacy apps they still trust facebook and google
@@momomaniac1234 ikr. I have tried to convince so many people to switch to telegram but no. Everyone still wants to use Whatsapp
@@tanmaydeshpande same for me i tryed much; telegram is much better than whats app more secure and don't has file size restrictions like whats app do and groups has more members and has more fun features than whats app like animated emojis and animated stickers, bots,gifs chanels and now it has voice chat
@@momomaniac1234 They don't want to switch because of WhatsApp status. Its the one feature holding up WhatsApp
I use signal with only one person. Unfortunately regular people are hard to convince. They don’t want to lose convenience and only use what is popular.
unless your job requires you to be private, working class needs convenience and no sudden changes.
Switching to Telegram meant dropping out a few contacts unwilling to change, going on to Signal lost more, this will really shorten the list and what I really want is to move over to Briar, another Tor based messenger with no servers.
what about matrix?
Exactly what I was going to say.
matrix is secure, not private because of the chain link nature of matrix mechination
not a big fan of federated services (partly since none have ever really taken off), but matrix is probably a good option if properly configured.
@@readme_nfo yeah if you make your server it doesn’t need any other thing other than cybersec
@@username6338 there is a point in what he makes, why would he use something to communicate when no there isn’t someone to talk to in a messenger app
Session is awesome!!
Jami seems to be a good alternative.
It seems like it could send memes fine. I looked through my downloads and most my video are under 5mb in size
My issue with session is that they have a high cost of entry to run a node. It’s this way to prevent governments from spinning up a ton of nodes and running a Sybil attack, but in real life it kinda just prevents individuals from spinning up nodes. Governments can afford to run lots of nodes if that means spying on their citizens, where citizens can’t afford to put 1,000$ into running a session node.
I’ve had my eyes on berty for a while, they seem to be like session but better.
Having a problem with Tor because it might be unsecure is like having a problem with water because it might catch on fire. It's literally considered a national security threat by the US govt.
@@nathanb011 who said anything about Tor? The problem I have with session doesn’t exist in Tor. Tor has no artificial cost to run a node.
This. I found the logic of it realistically flawed. I thought it was just me.
that makes session even more secure because unlike tor it does not have these tor nodes that are controlled by secret fbi members
They should let us change the path whenever we like like Tor does it that would decrease the risk
The virgin Session user vs the Chad GNU Jami enjoyer
I would agree if my messages reached their destination.
I the long run I think Matrix is going to be the most successful open, privacy friendly, and decentralised platform.
it's federated though, which is different, and has some very big drawbacks
@@googIesux The solution to drawbacks? Using xmpp.
Thank you.
I didn't know about the Loki project.
Great review! Sounds promising. The onion routing is sick ngl
I'd like to share that based on comparison Signal and Wire and Telegram and Element seem to be the Best currently, Element seems to have the least bugs though.
I have a problem with making calls though via Element, no idea yet why
You you the best . I like your videos 👍👍👍👍👍👍🇸🇪
Nah, me and my homies use PGP encrypted throaway e-mails
How?
@@Ale-pk6td Get a cock li email or some other tor-friendly email, get each others public key, profit
@redwill17 no no no you don't understand, you can't leech from something you set up yourself
@redwill17 What's wrong with it (in logical arguments)?
If anything is soy, it isn't e-mail. Still has use in this world
@flim E2E Encryption
would be awesome if it was signal compatible.. i made lots of people switchto signal and i don't want to make them switch again
then don't, let them sit with it for a while and let them make the change or start thinking for themselves. This is a lifestyle change and it takes years for people to make a habit or mindset.
Yeah its useless to switch for now because it was tough for me to even switch other of my friends to signal and now switching them to another messaging service is not what I should do.
Oh I see, that it's part of the Loki project
Those guys are awesome
Now, if only session had an Fdroid version???
You can download an apk from getsession.org , but I don't think you would get updates.
Hey Outlaw, I want to ask you a question. What is a good way to get in contact?
In terms of both Session and Briar, doesn't the lack of bulk use of Tor create a red flag in and of itself?
We need to make a game that has the sole purpose of being able to route messages through it so it doesn't look sus.
@@teamrabbitalec minecraft library.😂😂
@@teamrabbitalec club penguin
Doesnt briar route traffic over tor?
@@teamrabbitalecjust route EVERYTHING through Tor and have a separate Tor session for your privacy related stuff. That way it doesn't look sus, or after a while it doesn't, they'll just think you're schizo.
I think it should be kept to a small-band width. So down grade or compress audio to, say, the old telephone standard. This will improve security - short low density messaging. Forget large video or audio files and concentrate on real-time voice interaction and sms, eMails (possibly with mms type attachments).
Essentially, drop back to an encrypted telephone (as a wireless antenna) coupled to an encrypted modem (terminal device) connected to an encrypted user device (mic and headphones from a "computer device").
Three levels of encryption before it even gets on the airwaves (with the plain text source and destination packet fields created in the modem and antenna, of course).
And don't forget to back up all your device, public and contact keys onto a few encrypted USB sticks. That way you can press the self-destruct buttons on any of your "disposable encryption devices".
Have used Session for a year, switching people to it is tough but with the people i have communicated with it, it is pretty good. Occasionally, some times messages dont reach me even though the sender has sent it. But except that part, it is pretty good.
Great review. Session is not yet where I need it to be, but worth keeping an eye on.
Most people don't give a damn about privacy, I am kinda being forced to use whatsapp as none of my workspace colleagues / family / uni friends use anything besides whatsapp for daily communication.
I have managed to convince a very few to install signal on side alongside whatsapp
Ikr it’s sad. Proof that our species is devolving and doesn’t deserve to exist
@@opensourceis9996 don't be so dramatic
Session is not bad, althpugh limited when it comes to voice messages/ video calls.
I am about to try Jami.
"I think most people know how to use a QR code"
me, I use arch btw, who doesn't know how to use a QR code: fuck
Classic Linux users!
Glad that I found this video and thanks for pointing out that anonymity is another layer to privacy security, however it's also hard to onboard families or friends. On session and briar, I got no one talk to, recently I'm using wiremin where I can DM strangers whom I know from the groups in common. but, is there anything I have to talk about privately with strangers?
It's very difficult to convince people change from Whatsapp to another app, which they will stop using and uninstall sooner or later. I got 2 people to switch to Telegram (which is not better than Whatsapp anyway...).
Unfortunately, the privacy thing is as personal as going to the bathroom: you take care of it yourself. If people do not investigate for themselves, there's nothing to do with it...
Could you do a video on how to spoof your hardware ID's for privacy/security reasons?
imo, i would just suggest setting up a KVM and following the guide below:
www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/comments/i071qx/spoof_and_make_your_vm_undetectable_no_more/
if you are on linux with a cpu that has virtualization technology that is..
@@ichthyosaur7883 Thank you I'm new to Linux so I'm still learning. Is there anyway to spoof the ID's without using a VM? Reason being is that I'm building a pc strictly using older parts to circumvent the hardware level backdoors that intel & AMD have so I can have pretty much as private/secure pc that I can get.
@@craigdaniels3749
Well... idk about HWID spoofing, cuz HWID its more of a windows thing (that windows need to identify drivers and whatnot) rather than a linux thing, for linux, a simple update to the kernel will already give the newest drivers needed for the appropriate hardwares and stuff.
but imo, if you really wanna get the extra edge of anonymity browsing the net with a live booted os.
i suggest to simply look up how to spoof your mac address.
since from what i can gather, a mac address is uniquely tied to the hardware that is the NIC (Network card)
and maybe look into subnetting and subnet masks, why tf not?
Cardboard Turtle's suggestion also looks promising too.
alternatively, a vpn is a popular choice these days.
oh.. and if you plan to use windows for whatever reason, i recommend looking into Tronscript (Removes Bloat and Telemetry hidden in 10).
@@craigdaniels3749 I also don't understand the paranoia for "hardware level backdoors" i mean they did make them in the first place.
ofc they would know full well how the blueprint goes.
if you really don't trust them, then buy your stuff from another brand
or better yet, take up hardware engineering and learn how to make your own.
Session now also supports p2p video call and voice call, but everything will be way better when lokinet gets added.
When/if qtox goes mobile I'll finally switch
only problem what i have to start using these better im services is that their official apps dosnt support horizontal screen for tablet use and that they dosnt know how to compress files if they are over filesize limits. this goes for wire and almost anything.
Would be nice to have a video on an overview of Loki sometime in the future.
Can we get a video on partitioning and dual booting BSD (any kind)?
Does Windows know what I'm doing in the Session messaging application?
Ask it
The only problem is that notifications on the iPhone don't work, regardless of whether you set them to fast or slow.
Nice video thank you for explaining
I am interested to hear your top ten of Messengers
Including Briar tox cyphertop and matrix
All Sound very good to me but i am No Expert
400mb ram is A LOT for messenger! My entire OS require less! If it were written by normal coders on normal language, 10-40 megabytes would be enough. Fuck Electron!
Everything is made in electron lately. Vscode discord, slack and now session too
@@Vepnar Yeah, and it's horrible!
Its an add on to high convinient Telegram .... Daily Blabla over cloud.... Exchange about seriously stuff.... send Bank account stuff change to Session ..... i like it comfortable with the Option to get off the Grid
Me and the boys already use wire and plastic cup
what's your thoughts and alternatives for keybase, if we are in the neighborhood of e2e comms
I don't trust shiny websites
Shiny websites are really easy to make nowadays, really the less trustworthy ones are the cluttered websites. They have a github with all their code, and you can even see that it is forked directly off of Signal.
@@nathanb011 I am new to this. How to know if the app I installed is running the same code as the one given on Github.
@@realsushrey Building it yourself and cross-checking the code, or downloading directly off github download page if available. It's not necessary, really, because nobody has said anything yet, so it's probably good. Trusting nobody does require that technical knowledge, though.
@@nathanb011 Thanks.
You'll loose detail for sure but you really can compress large video/audio/image down to 5 mb
I am curious whether Session's usability is based on its cryptocurrency, and, if it is, if the network will start to be bad if people stop contributing to that.
There are some places where the Wi-Fi finds a way to block Session although I'm using a private DNS and a VPN (Proton VPN). How can I stop this?
What do you think about Keybase?
Don't send messages on it, just use it to advertise your public key. Learn to use `gpg` or a GUI frontend such as Seahorse (a.k.a. GNOME Keyring) or OpenKeychain to manage your keys on your devices.
Thoughts on Telegram?
Good but use on burner
Beautiful
Loki is not proof of work anymore, they have transitioned to proof of stake not long ago.
Asking as someone who doesn’t understand the importance of that, what’s the importance of that?
@@notaboutit3565 I would not know exaclty, I know what it means etc, but as far as security goes some people say POS is not as secure while others disagree. What I gathered from reading their blogs and docs is that they intend to defend the network from sybil attacks by using value of coins, if someone wants to overtake the network he needs to create nodes and stake coins , but as you get more coins price explodes thus making it very expansive to do. Seems nice on the surface, but if it would materialize in the same fashion I don't know.
What is the difference between downloading the apk and downloading the app on Google play market? Is there any?
So you don't have to be on a Google account to install the application.
I need a tutorial on how to make a group chat. I'm so confused, when it says create a session what do I enter as the id? How do I add other people to join into the same chat?
Sweet! It's going to be tough to get my friends and family on board though haha
I don't see why
It's literally made with normie friendliness in mind basically an easier tor
Yeah, my family thinks that I have OCD, even though the doctor said he doesn't have OCD.
@@run_down_mid8480 because they're still using the garbage called Discord.
Have you looked into Tox before?
What kind of Jami is this?!
We need an anonymous blockchain version of Telegram.
Great video
this is exciting!
we got this over on fdroid?
Only playstore, but you can use aurora store.
Also, what is your read on these E2EE messaging services appealing directly to the "holy trinity" of Church Woke, namely, journalists, activists, and demonstrators? I get that these stunning and brave people need encryption, but why the ubiquity of messaging?
Eh? Are you proposing that they _shouldn't_ be able to communicate securely? Your comment is confusing...
@@mattcrosby2310, simply because they have a specific and real need for privacy, to such an extent that it's basically pivotal to those activities. It's not that the software is being designed with those groups in mind, it's just that those groups are in need of such software. I can't say I've really seen any E2EE messaging software which says "great for journalists etc.!", it's usually just a generic statement about censorship resistance.
@@mattcrosby2310, I don't mean it in that sense. I mean it in the sense that people such as journalists must ensure privacy in order to do their job properly, else info gets leaked or people's lives end up at stake. The average Joe doesn't need it in that sense, though privacy is still obviously desirable to most people, regardless of their use case. This is why the vast majority of people being apathetic towards more secure solutions than what they currently use, because they don't perceive the barrier to entry as being worth the gain in privacy. Most people seem to prefer convenience over security. For journalists and the like, this is not the case, so they go out of their way to use private methods of communication from the get-go.
Your analogy to contraception is like asking why a person carrying HIV is more likely to use it that a person who isn't carrying HIV. AIDS is perceived as such an undesirable disease that HIV carriers have a need for contraception, in the sense used previously. By contrast, the average Joe does not (assuming they don't care about getting their partner pregnant), so they are less likely to use it. That is not to say that Mr. Joe would not reap certain benefits from using contraception; he's just not phased if he doesn't have a condom to hand on this particular Friday night.
@@mattcrosby2310, you're preaching to the choir. I'm not at all stating that some people shouldn't use these services. I'm merely stating that the way your imagined person thinks (dismissing STDs in general because they're only concerned about AIDS) is how the majority of people think about their online privacy - they're simply ignorant of the potential ramifications, or don't care about them. By contrast, almost all journalists etc. already do care about them, or are more likely to suffer such consequences, so the importance of privacy is already at the forefront of their minds, making them more likely to seek out secure communication. No one is saying that you can have secure communication without encryption, it's just that most people don't care about having secure communication.
What do you think of using i2p instead of Tor?
Does it also use Electr🤮n?
Please! Keep a link to download it from your website bcuz the Apple Store, n the Play Store luv to hide Apps from ppl. Someone told me that they can’t find it in the App Store even though I downloaded it yesterday, n I can’t find it in the Play Store, they’re showing me all kinds of junk except Session.
Finally I can chat with my dealer in peace
May I suggest a video on OnionShare?
i think they're using onion requests through lokinet
What about Wire messenger? make some video
And which messenger app will people use to send the qr code?
What do you think about threema ?
Threema is great. Getting people to pay to use is the problem. It’s not expensive but you know how it is with some people.
I'm banking on ElasOS. Very unuser friendly ATM though.
thanks, great recommendation
who sends to whom*
This is one year ago now look at it now heaps better and it is taking off
The data limit issue is brought up, it's legit like everybody simply just forgot that image/video hosting websites exist.
Also, if a video is too big, screenrecord the video. It will make the size of the video roughly 50% it's prior size & if you speed it up by 1.5-2x% speed, the video file will be even smaller, yet again. You can even screen record the screenrecording, and still have it looking decent, despite how much smaller the file is (and what your camera is like).
I only resort to the hosting websites when the screenrecoding videos doesn't work/screenshotting images doesn't either (works the same for images, too).
Having a phone with a great camera on like the Google Pixel 7 Pro is good and all, but the images/videos never fit anywhere due to their quality, thus large size, too.
I use sessions and it’s based af, highly recommend it over wikie me, signal or...what’s app 🤮. I feel very safe :)
Does Windows know what I'm doing in the Session messaging application?
Non encrypted backup
session is great, but not recognized enough
Do you recognise it
@@astagfargamer i've really been trying to recognize it more, lately. more and harder. i feel it deserves it. i'd say i recognize it on average maybe... twice a week
@@googIesux cool way to buy drugs and hookers, which I don't do😂
Shilling outlaw
wht is an 'shill'
@@uiopuiop3472 He is suggesting that Mental Outlaw is being paid to advertise Session
@@t74devkw that is bad. he didnt say it in video or description. that is legal outlaw = illegal
@@uiopuiop3472 You had me until 'that is legal outlaw = illegal' like did your brain get dragged through a chemical vat at that point and just give up or something
@@t74devkw he probably isn't paid, if he was there would be referential link in description
Still using Jami because of your old video
This might actually be a legitimately great youtuber, teaching such great things about FOSS and being a realist himself, if he wasn't so fucking greedy and put more ads in a single video than there are total minutes of it. To me this seems like a channel more for finding out which ads youtube has for me other than actually learn something. No hate, just feedback.
Adblocker
if this is so secure why does Google have it in their play store? Hmmmm
it's literally free and open source
Because google only allows stuff in the playstore that it can attach its spyware to.
Download from the site itself amd not Google. Not so easy for ios users though
Show me how to synd from Android to pc. THANKS
I would not suggest Session. The Onion routing function is not working yet and the group behind Session uses proxy servers as a work around. Until it is and third party audits on this are done, its unknown how private it will be. Until then, Signal is still the best. Threema might be a good alternative even though you have to buy a subscription to it.
Subscription? I am using threema and it was a one time payment
@@nootics I stand corrected but do you get or agree my point?
@@greenjihad3390 yes, it makes sense. I don't use signal but threema for example has been 3rd party audited a few times and now they are open source anyway. Also threema doesn't require any phone number and is from Switzerland where privacy laws are more strict than in other places.
What os are you using?
If I'm not wrong he uses Gentoo on a vm
He's using gentoo with dwm
Gentoo with dwm and a bunch of custom use flags
Kernel: Linux
OS: GNU/Gentoo Linux (Gentoo)
WM: Suckless Dynamic Window Manager (commonly referred to as DWM)
I think he uses FreeBSD
a private*
How does this company make money if they don't sell user data or ask for a signup/subscription fee?
They appear to be a non-profit
They have a cryptocurrency attaches to the network with a developers holdding account which usually has a fuckton of coins. Users mine them when using sessions, reducing supply thus increasing price. They then dump their bags on users for profit.
The best thing about this video is that he's talking about privacy while using gentoo and firefox himself rather than someone using Windows and chromium browsers 😂. It's like who are these privacy tips for, you are yourself exposed from everywhere.. Great work man👍. Please share some tips about using vpn without loosing latency and performance. On whole device.
How can i send u dogecoin?
I like this app but to make the people i know use it and join me in it's another story
WhatsApp status feature is stopping regular people from switching to better alternatives like this
Is it fast tho?
im my experience it has some delay but not that much for messaging its like 3 secs of delay and to be honest thats useable
I only use sneakernet, it's way more secure.
Impractical
Just, why switch to these new services when there is Telegram? I mean, we are already fully secured with it, why change
Telegram is a closed source and proprietary software run from headquarters situated in a extremely authoritarian monarchy which is an extremely close ally of the country with the most extensive programme for spying on civilians. Not sure how much more insecure you can get.
@@BlommaBaumbart what? Telegram is open-source, why did you say it's closed source if they give you sources for every Telegram application on any device. Second, they say they neither sell any data nor they spy/collaborate with governments, and most of all, their privacy policy doesn't mention any of it. I don't know what a massive privacy violation and scandal it would be if they did, but I still see no user complaining about privacy with Telegram, and in general I don't even see advanced users feeling discontent about it. That's it, I honestly think these are enough proofs to believe we shouldn't worry. But if I am wrong please let me notice it, because it sure would be seriously bad.
@@samueleproiettimicozzi8134 The client you install is open source, the message handling server is not. They said they will open source that eventually, I believe that when they do. Because talk is cheap marketing and provides nothing towards privacy or cybersecurity. Same goes for whatever they say about how they handle the data their servers receive. You see no user complaining about their privacy, but you have no idea and cannot verify whether that is because they don't do anything or because they do massive violations hidden behind a proprietary curtain. Now if I had to, I'd rather use a service which is at least claiming to do nothing wrong rather than one openly exploiting my data like WhatsApp, but if I wanted to use a private communication software, it would not be one which forces me to trust a stranger's server. Trust is the opposite of security.
@@BlommaBaumbart You're right. But if it was open-source, how can they keep their security unbreakable? The MT-PROTO algorithm used by Telegram could be easily hacked if its code was known, I think. I'm no IT security expert so correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway, the client being open-source is already something, because with that we can exclude backdoors on devices and telemetry/further privacy violations. Only the use of messages we send to Telegram's servers is still a question.
@@samueleproiettimicozzi8134 You're falling into a fallacy that the proprietary industry sometimes tries to use as an argument. There is no unbreakable security, only risk minimisation. Real cybersecurity always operates on the basis that the attacker knows the system. (Because there's over 7.000.000.000 people in the world and history simply has shown that absolutely anything can and will be cracked by one of them.) Therefor, by keeping it closed source, you're not keeping out attackers, you're preventing potential helpers from fixing your security holes. Linus Torvalds roughly phrases this as "with enough people watching the code, the every bug will be trivial to someone", which mirrors the situation for the attacker. When your code is open source, many professional programmers whose companies rely on your code will check it for errors and apply patches, which in turn will be checked by all the other programmers. This model is proved to work well. Of course the real security is in developing a system which doesn't rely on secrecy of the system, which is what e.g. Session is setting out for For a recent example of problems with closed source, which is equally instructional and terrifying, look at the hack of Solarwinds, a company which touted that open source would make stuff hackable and now has absolutely devasted the internet infrastructure worldwide. The Guardian has an article about it titled "The US has suffered a massive cyberbreach. It's hard to overstate how bad it is".
It's good that you ask these questions, by the way. That gives both yourself and the people you ask the opportunity to rethink assumptions and validate ideas.
just use matrix SMH
#replay
5mb is plenty for video
can you not into webm?
are you unable to transcode?
Hey! Can you make a video about UA-cam Vanced please?
Will this work also on China?
Telegram would like a word
How does Session compare against WickrMe? Which is more secure?
This sounds good, but I think session in not a good name. Don't name something like a word that already exists.