He seduced Eve and taught her how procreation works and with which she can create life. He did not told her the birth pains, which God states in Genesis 3.16
@@MrCapitalizer What false doctrines do you refer to? If you mention at least 5 with ontradictions from the bible then i will agree with you..otherwise your statement has no value..
@@MainoLahuifalse doctrine like Jesus is created. Like become a god. Like temple requirements. Like Joe being a prophet. Like another Testament of Jesus. Like after all you can do 2 Nephi 25:23 There are so many more
@@georgebauerschmidt5289 JESUS is our firstborn, our elder brother. He is and was JEHOVAH of the Old Testament. It was by Him and through Him and of Him the worlds are and were created. We pray to the Father through Him and by His Name. It was because of Him, our Heavenly Father's plan for the happiness of all His children (us) is possible and that is through His gospel. There are saving ordinances in His gospel first of which is baptism for the remission of sins. But before that ordinance you need to have faith in Him JESUS CHRIST and repent. After baptism, laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost John 3:3-5. About the Temple yes Isrealites were Temple worshiping people Old Testament supports that ideaology like Moses and the tabernacle and the Isrealites, Solomons Temple and so forth. In our Saviours time He dismissed the vendors because they were turning the holy site of the Temple into a market place. Some of the saving ordinances of the Gospel of JESUS CHRIST like family sealing and others are only performed in the Temple His Holy House and no where else. After we do all these things and endure to the end..we can be exalted, receive the fullness of joy and live in the eternities. That's what our loving Heavenly Father and His Son JESUS CHRIST wants us to obtain. And about the Book of Mormon go and search Isaiah 29:11-12, Ezekiel 37:15-20, Revelation 14:6.. Tribe of Judah and Joseph are these two records Holy Bible and The Book of Mormon. And they both support each other and point out to the Gospel of JESUS CHRIST. All of these things were revealed through Prophet Joseph Smith.
@@Burglar-King Sam plants more seeds than a weed farm in California. This kid needed to hear this, might not be converted yet, but the holy spirit will water the seed and he will come eventually. The kid has no intellectual authority in the conversation and should listen more than talk. You should also take note from this, maybe you need to advance in your own life. You gonna do it by yourself? Good luck. You want to learn? This is that moment for the kid.
@@Ameydusa1it’s the church or Jesus Christ. He’s part of the church’s logo. He appeared to a prophet. He leads our church today. He lives. He died for our sins. He wants us to become like him by following his example. He was baptized, so are we in his name. We pray in his name. We follow his words in the scriptures. The book of morning and the Bible are a testament of his life and atonement of our sins. That’s what we believe about Christ and that’s why we’re Christian. We don’t expect you to share all of the beliefs we have, but why not find the common ground.
As an ex Mormon I can say that they can't really defend what they actually teach. Their goal is to pretend to be Christians in order to lead people astray.
@@mosalina9134no, I picked up on it too. He’s clearly pretending not to know things because he knows how stupid and flimsy the doctrine sounds out loud.
True Mormonism and Islam have the same demonic “Spirit” of deception. The Quran came 600 years after Christianity and Muhammad said an "angel" named Gabriel came and told him that he is the last prophet and that he came to correct our scriptures and gave him a new gospel. Islam also claims to be the proper continuation of Christ’s teaching. 2000 years after Christianity, Joseph Smith of the Mormons said an "angel" named Moroni came to him with their own book, to correct our scriptures…and the Book of Mormon has a new gospel. Mormonism also claims to be the proper continuation of Christ’s teaching. The same thing happened in a few other cults. The Bible says in Galatians 1:8 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed." The Bible foresees all of these false religions. And gave us warnings way before Islam or Mormonism or any of these false religions were even created. These were not "angels".. Jesus said “It is finished” when He died on the cross. There is no ‘last prophet’ or later revelations or books or continuation of Christ’s teachings.
True...Mormonism and Islam have the same demonic “Spirit” of deception. The Quran came 600 years after Christianity and Muhammad said an "angel" named Gabriel came and told him that he is the last prophet and that he came to correct our scriptures and gave him a new gospel. Islam also claims to be the proper continuation of Christ’s teaching. 2000 years after Christianity, Joseph Smith of the Mormons said an "angel" named Moroni came to him with their own book, to correct our scriptures…and the Book of Mormon has a new gospel. Mormonism also claims to be the proper continuation of Christ’s teaching. The same thing happened in a few other cults. The Bible says in Galatians 1:8 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed." The Bible foresees all of these false religions. And gave us warnings way before Islam or Mormonism or any of these false religions were even created. These were not "angels".. Jesus said “It is finished” when He died on the cross. There is no ‘last prophet’ or later revelations or books or continuation of Christ’s teachings.
@@nn5410 Islam is aggressive and mormonism is relatively benign however Satan isn't that bothered how he dams you. 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
@@disturbed157 Nowhere in the Bible does it say "the gates of heaven were locked because a woman ate an apple" So you don't know what Christianity teaches but you pass judgment on it. That's pathetic at best...
“Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.” Isaiah 43:10 KJV
If you read the next verse, verse 11, it puts it in context that there is only one savior, there is one God of this world, that’s Jesus Christ. There is no confusion there unless you pretend Isaiah is not in the context of this world and this salvation.
So what cult do you belong to? The Methodist, Baptist, church of Christ? All religions are cults. It does not say in the Bible you need to go to church to worship god.
I was a mormon for 40 years, also se4ved a mission and believed and was taught just like this kid. I'm so glad I allowed myself to see the truth and to see how ridiculous mormonism is. So glad I escaped before my death
Romans 10:9 -- If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord" and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, YOU WILL BE SAVED." Are you reading the New Testament?
@@thefly6537 Nope. Don't think so. The foundation of the Christian faith is that Jesus of Nazareth was born fully God and fully man. Anyone who does not accept that is not a part of the body.
So what cult do you belong to? The Methodist, Baptist, church of Christ? All religions are cults. It does not say in the Bible you need to go to church to worship god.
Wow, I never knew how conflicted that religion is! Now there’s millions more to pray for who are totally oblivious to the truth! Love you Sam, praying for you in this battle 🖖👀
I lived with Mormons (Church of Later Day Saints.......They always claimed the bible was companion book to the Book of Mormon. While living with them, they were preparing for a "Sealing Ceremony".....They had to conduct themselves in a certain way to qualify for this "ritual" and they claimed they would be married together for eternity after they die. Later, while sitting in temple, I was reading the bible and realized how much the book of Mormon contradicts the bible: Matthew 22:30 "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in Heaven". Thank you God for showing the truth about the Church of Later Day Saints............
I saw the same thing! When I discovered this I was mad! Reading this made me realize these people don’t know god, they don’t read the book! Cuz If they did read the book they would see this verse and run. They claim they read it, but in the sermons it’s all Book of Mormon. This is just one contradiction.
@@arthurels5832your a liar quick google search they have all but one book the book of Esther they have the originals so your a liar and do not know what your talking people just google this liar
It’s fun to come in here and see how much people misunderstand. I served a mission for the LDS church and a guy told me to my face the the LDS bible had the book of John removed. So I pulled out my KJV Bible printed by the LDS church and asked him to look to see if the book of John was gone and, well I’ll be damned, it was there. He spent a good 10 minutes looking around for all the changes his pastor told him about and could t find any. Haha!
@@mahonri69what do you mean? If Jesus actually appeared and told me I was wrong, I’d absolutely change because I’m submitted to Jesus alone. Now, there’s an issue with the fact that Jesus won’t come down again until the Second Coming and at that point it won’t matter, but in this hypothetical, I’d absolutely change and shift my beliefs. Can you say the same? If God told you Mormonism was false, would you stop being a Mormon?
I simply had a hard time following this young man. Everything was ethereal with no concrete answers. And, what is with all the skin pinching he constantly did to himself, that was quite strange!
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches the truth..this young returned missionary is trying to explain but Sam is refusing to listen by cutting him off just like that...come on Sam..and how could you go on at the end and criticize..the Church that JESUS CHRIST from His own lips said in the very begining of the Doctrine and Covenants that it is the only true and a living Church on the face of the earth.. Our Saviour said that after He was introduced to Prophet Joseph Smith by our Heavenly Father whom both stood side by side as seperate, exalted and glorified Beings.
@@nn5410 If you actually look into the accuracy of the Bible ie the translations to English from the originals, they are 99.7% accurate with minor changes to grammar rather than anything substantive. The message does not change. "Much of the Bible is based on material from egypt / sumeria" - This is a conspiracy theory with no basis. Like saying Jesus was copied from Osiris or something, totally bull made up tinfoil hat nonsense. Excerpt from GotQuetsions on the accuracy of the Bible: Most people have asked, or at least wondered, something to the effect of, “How do we know the guys who wrote the Bible just didn’t make all that stuff up?” Such questions dealing with the Bible’s trustworthiness and accuracy should be answered honestly and clearly. The approach to assessing whether the Bible is accurate in what it reports is the same used to evaluate any other historical book. The legal/forensic method and its principles are employed to judge the validity of historical texts and whether the reported testimony is factual. There are three primary tests historians use within the forensic method: First is the bibliographical test. This examines the reliability of the available manuscripts and the time that elapsed between the events in question and their recording. When applied to the New Testament, literally no other ancient text measures up. The New Testament has tens of thousands of ancient manuscripts that can be extensively compared to each other; plus, those manuscripts have the earliest dating to its recorded events of any historical book. In other words, the books of the New Testament were written very soon after the events they describe, leaving no room for legend to creep in. In fact, Paul cites more than 500 eyewitnesses to the risen Christ, “most of whom are still living”-meaning that his readers were free to check out the truth for themselves and confirm the accuracy of what he wrote. Another proof of the New Testament’s early dating exists in the writings of early Christian leaders such as Clement (c. AD 95), Ignatius (c. AD 107), Polycarp (c. AD 110), Justin Martyr (c. AD 133), and others. Historians have determined that the entire New Testament could be completely reconstructed from citations from the early church fathers, with the exception of 27 verses, most of which come from 3 John. The second test used by historians to assess the accuracy of ancient texts, including the Bible, is the internal evidence test. This test concerns itself with whether there are multiple attestations of the events in question and whether those accounts are free of contradictions (i.e., do they match?). With respect to the New Testament, multiple eyewitness accounts exist that all tell the same story. As for contradictions or manuscript variants, the overwhelming majority of biblical variants are inconsequential, consisting of spelling and numerical differences, sentence word order changes, etc. This leads scholars such as Neil Lightfoot to say, “Practically all of the variations found among the manuscripts do not affect our present text. Although a few textual problems remain, these are explained in the footnotes of most recent translations” (How We Got the Bible, Baker, 2003, p. 104). The third and final historiographical test for accuracy is the external evidence test, which asks if evidence outside the document in question corroborates the text. In the case of both the Old and New Testament, countless archaeological discoveries validate the historicity of the Bible. In addition, works such as Robert Van Voorst’s Jesus Outside the New Testament chronicle what non-biblical writers had to say about Jesus. To sum up, using historians’ three key tests from the forensic/legal method for validating the trustworthiness of an ancient text, no other work from ancient history comes close to matching the reliability and accuracy of the Bible.
Maybe some parts of the old testament, but most not. Israel begins with Abraham, and before Abraham there is much that applies to the entire world at that time. This includes Egypt and the Sumerians.@@nn5410
@@nn5410No we have the manuscript evidence to show that the Bible hasn't been altered. The words themselves might vary from manuscript to manuscript, but the message itself has not changed. We have thousands of manuscripts of the New Testament works from the first century and Israel has countless Old Testament scrolls. We know for a fact what was taught way back when. The idea that the Bible has been altered throughout time is not based in evidence.
Yeah, that's all well and good but with mormons you have to dig and dig and really pin them down. They'll say a lot of statements that sound orthodox, but there's always an "*" next to each word.
Exactly, but sadly still Not enough believers are aware of This His Secret. Peace with you, until His Second Arrival immediately After the End of the "world".
@@amjidhuss1092 Hallelujah! You are absolutely right. The LORD is one. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are YHWH, the One God, the Holy One of Israel. Christ has always existed; he was with God in the beginning, and it was He who created all things. The Holy Spirit was there in the beginning hovering above the void. And God said, "Let Us make man in Our image." Thus was man created in the image of the triune God. Hallowed be His name forever.
So what cult do you belong to? The Methodist, Baptist, church of Christ? All religions are cults. It does not say in the Bible you need to go to church to worship god.
@@HardRock-rc1hwAll religions are not cults. Would you have said that to the Jews? God is the one who gave them their religion. He never changes. He is consistent. Yes. The Bible is clear. We MUST go to church and worship God His way and on His terms. Most churches are not biblical. That's likely why you're frustrated. I was too for many years and I stopped going to church. There are a ton of hypocrites and fake Christians in Christianity today. Especially in the US.
Iv watched many ex Mormon videos. They explain that they teach these missionary what to say, how to debate and how to lie. They say it’s called “lying for the lord” if you are a Christian you should look more into this false religion because they are very good at deceiving. Also if you are a Mormon and you start asking questions about the religion they will tell you “milk before meat” and something about when you receive a gift (Mormonism) you should just except the gift and not ask about the gift.
@@scottm4975 No, actually, I was able to answer the questions he was being asked because as a young Christian (about 30 years ago) I studied cults at Bible College and had many discussions with Mormons and JWs. The Mormons I spoke to back then were far more knowledgeable. Maybe I just came upon a bunch of “good” ones.
Respect to the kid for at least admitting he doesn’t have much knowledge or even an opinion on many of the things Sam questioned him about. God bless him, and may he be brought to the truth of Jesus one day.
The fact that they only marry other Mormons has led - and did especially in the 19th century with polygamy being rampant - to concentration of genes. This does not appear to have been harmful, but there is, in fact, a "Mormon look."
As Christians we should try to have engaging discussions, not debates where we are firing questions one after the other and not letting people respond. We're to bring people to Christ, not push them away.
They are already away from Christ. They need to be given a heavy dose of the Gospel. This kid will come back and rewatch this later and if his is a truth seeker, he will come to faith in the Triune God.
@@amakrid I was an atheist and I only stopped to think when some Christian online challenged me strongly to stop and think through my argument about morality. I'd been a truth seeker all my life, I left God because I thought the atheist horsemen had good arguments and I came back when I realised Christians had better arguments. You might be easily offended, but I am not. So no, I'm not barking and I'm not a dog. I also didn't go around insulting God or any religious people when I was atheist. I simply didn't believe, but I was OK letting religious people have their beliefs.
@@alisterrebelo9013 So, do you agree with Sam when he is telling the young guy to "stop barking" or when he is warning that he will send him back "packaged"? Is this the "heavy dose of Gospel" that you were personally given by this Christian? This is the question here.
BRainwashed is the right word. THeir tradition supercedes the true word of God. Yaweh said he is God and their is no other. THey believe in endless gods who started out as mere men. WHat a rabbit hole.
Psalm 82:6 I said, 'You are gods, all of you, sons of the Most High. Galatians 4 also talks about this. In chapter 3, Paul had just explained we're all sons of God through faith in Jesus. John 10:34 Jesus answered, Is it not written in your Law, I said, You are gods? We're not God Most High, we can't speak all of creation into existence but we are God's children, we are part of His pantheon, and one day we'll have immortal invulnerable glorified bodies and in that way we'll be gods compared to what we are now. Right now we're like petri dish gods in an embryo type stage.
@@GrumpyOleMe Psalms 82:6 is refering to angels. You will die like men die, God tells them for their unfaithfulness. JEsus is condemnig the Phairsees and teachers of the Law who would have known that verse and recognize that as angel are sons of God by his speaking them into existence(not procreation/sex act) then surely JEsus would be, (if he was who he claimed to be) worthy of being called the Son of God(his one and only Son, which you obviously do not believe). As far as Galatians 3:26 is concerned, we humans can become a child of God by virtue of our adoption. Romans 8. We're not literally spit out of some God woman's vagina by her procreating with her husband God and his sperm. How foolish cany you be. THe sad thing is you believe if your good enough you'll be able to do that one day. Beyond messed up.
@@MainoLahuiit’s a cult. If you have to defend a group/organization/people then it’s a cult. It has been verified by cult experts and concluded that Mormonism is a cult.
@@danib712 satan can lead people to hate the truth..that's what he is doing at the moment because he knows that after the great apostacy which was after the death of the apostles..our loving Heavenly Father and His Son JESUS CHRIST brought about Restoration in 1820 through the Prophet Joseph Smith.. So in short I can say through JS the priesthood keys, priesthood authority, saving ordinances like baptism and family sealing just to mention few are brought back to life so that we can one fine day go back and be exalted and live with our loving Heavenly Father and His Beloved Son JESUS CHRIST in the highest kingdom of heaven which is Celestial.. That is what our Heavenly Father and His Son wants us to receive..and all of these blessings we could not receive unless we live the Gospel of JESUS CHRIST and that mention Gospel is Restored..if only people investigate the Church themselves they will know the truth instead of listening to other people's negative stories about The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints and draw conclusions..
What, exactly, did he "debunk"? Are you that easily deceived? All he did was ram rod an obscure belief in hopes that certain of his listeners would think it ridiculous. Ĥe "debunked" nothing. The scriptures teach us over and over that we are all brothers and sisters; and that we existed before we came here to earth, and God knew us then too. Jesus taught us this. And also to pray to our Father in Heaven, HIS Father in Heaven also. And among us, before we came to earth, was Lucifer. He was one of the greatest among us. He was all of our brother. But he rebelled against God and was cast out. And ⅓ of our brothers and sisters followed him! It's not hard to understand and follow. So yes, Lucifer IS the spiritual brother of Jesus. He is the spiritual brother of us all. We chose to follow God, all of us who came here and received bodies. And now it is up to us to follow Jesus, who took upon himself the mantle of messiah, to save us from the sin of this world if we follow him.
@@altasadventures1139 Sam never discusses anything. He is asking questions and he is dictating the answers. If he doesn't get the answer he dictates, he offends his interlocutor. Demanding from the other to move according to your plan proves no mental speed and knowledge.
Matthew 26:39 ► Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” jesus not God. Jesus prophet of one true God
Nope, Because the Black brothers Are the Cain's descendants but the Bigfoot is Not related to our - Human race and he is Absolutely Not easy to track down or to get caught. That is why it is sooo rarely been seen in the history. Pwy.
As an ex Mormon, you were pretty bad faith at the end. You can’t prove your point unless you dismantled theirs. That was completely illogical on your part and everyone’s time was wasted and nothing was accomplished. You were unwilling to go into the trinity yet you were unwilling to understand his point - you can’t refute his point until you have it and you wouldn’t even let him make it. You will not bring Mormons to Christ properly this way.
This wasn't about the Trinity. It was about whether Jesus was created or not. The text proves Jesus is not created. The young man simply wants to read his theology into the text instead of accepting the text.
So, to qualify for this limited time offer of Godhood, you must: 1. Be a Mormon. Other good folks get a lesser prize, i.e., a "Heaven" where God isn't (i.e. Hell). 2. Be a really good Mormon, who tithes 10%, goes on a mission, does good works, and performs baptisms and marriages for the dead. Oh, and wears white shirts to church, wears special Mormon underwear (available ONLY from the COJCOLDS), and abstains from tea, coffee, and hot caffeinated beverages. And Coca-cola. But lemon-lime soda is okay. Those failing get a Lesser "Heaven" where Jesus visits but God doesn't. 3. Be married to a person who did all of the things in Qualification #2, above. Better still, married for time to one, and for eternity to many (if male). Those missing this step get the Good Heaven, where God is, but do not qualify for The Grand Prize of Ultimate Deity. 4. Be among the best at being married holy people who are married to married holy people. Those missing this step get extra stuff in the 3rd heaven, but not the Grand Prize. 5. Be male (females only get to be Goddesses/Wives, who, along with sister wives, make spirit-babies for the God to whom they are married). So, fortunately, only a tiny tiny percentage of Mormons would hypothetically WIN THE GRAND PRIZE and become Gods. Otherwise, this would be like some sort of celestial pyramid scheme...
@@fcampos10 No, he's going to try to get you to read Phil. 2:5-6 without the context of Phil. 2:3-8. "3 [Let] nothing [be done] through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. 4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others. *5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:* 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." Reading just vv.5-6, they try to make you think Paul is telling you to be like Jesus in His divinity, but Paul is saying to be like Jesus in His humility - the _POLAR OPPOSITE_ of what the Mormons want you see in this passage.
My uncle was an evangelist, I was at his house when mormons came to talk to him. He asked them if they knew about the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Where mornons posing as native Americans massacred a large group of settlers. They were dumbfounded, and he gave them the rundown on it.
Sam likes to pick on weak minded mormons. It is easy to pick this returned missionary apart. This mormon should just stick to yes or no or I do not know answers.. Sam, What is your religious history?
Sam has been completely unhinged and thinks it is okay to attack Christians and non-Christians verbally, and he uses insane language to do so. He may have great logic, but if you can't give the truth in love, but attack people on a regular basis, not interested. I'll stick to other apologists with similar theology but better love.
The pinching of his neck wast no doubt because he was nervous. Sam was illustrating some basic points on logic alone which results in his religion making no sense. I hope he has a humble heart to honestly critique his religion and find the truth.
Sam's gotta ask a question, then SHUT UP. So many videos of his are immensely frustrating with his continual overtalking. I'm a Christian, but Sam is one frustrating, and impolite interviewer.
@@amakrid Way to base an entire theology on one MISUNDERSTOOD verse. Jesus is speaking to the pharisees in regards to their LAW. Not scripture. Because they had the responsibility to judge men, they were referred to, and referred to themselves as gods, not Gods. You're on a path to Hell if you don't repent of this foolishness.
@@theoldestkidintheworld7365 First of all, Jesus repeats not a verse from the Law nor something which referrs to the pharisees, as you claim, but a verse of Psalm 82. Second, in the Gospel of Luke, Adam is also called "son of God" hence in 1st Corinthians 15:45 Jesus is called "the last Adam". The differences between the old son of God and what we call the Son of God are obvious to everyone who has elementary knowledge of the Christian theology - but the differences do not negate the fact that Jesus was a human being. Paul also, in his famous sermon in Athens, acknowledged that every human being is a son of God, for God "is not far from any one of us. For in him we live and move and exist. As some of your[d] own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’" (Acts 17: 27-29). The offsprings of God, the creatures that were made in his image and likeness, the sons and daughters of God, die as mere mortals due to sin, but can still be elevated in the state which God conceived for them in his mind - which is the state of the Christ. This is the anthropology of the Eastern Church. For more information, look for the term "theosis".
Even in HEAVEN we will never be "gods". How can a man or another created creature become a "god"???? Humans are superior to all the creatures on/in the earth and none of us is considered to be a "god".
Psalm 82:6 I said, 'You are gods, all of you, sons of the Most High. Galatians 4 also talks about this. In chapter 3, Paul had just explained we're all sons of God through faith in Jesus. John 10:34 Jesus answered, Is it not written in your Law, I said, You are gods? We're not God Most High, we can't speak all of creation into existence but we are God's children, we are part of His pantheon, and one day we'll have immortal invulnerable glorified bodies and in that way we'll be gods compared to what we are now. Right now we're like petri dish gods in an embryo type stage.
True, we will never become part of the Trinity, or become creator gods, or out-do God in our divinity. But the Bible clearly states, the aim of the Christian life and salvation, is partaking in the Divine Nature, or Theosis. 2 Peter 1:3-4, which states that God’s “divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness” through the knowledge of God, who called us by His own glory and goodness. Through these things, He has given us His great promises so that we “may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.", is one of many texts that mentions the union that becomes a Christian's inheritance as they work out their salvation in fear and trembling. Theosis is, becoming through grace, what God is by nature. We can never know or experience God's essense, but we can know and experience Him through his energies. We are created in his image and his likeness. The fall has obliterated the likeness, but the image, has remained, sadly damaged and imperfect. But it is there. Christ has come to restore both. I always explain it by referring to my dog, and an imagnary pet snail. Let"s face it, there is no way the pet snail and I will ever be able to have a truly meaningful and mutually reciprocal relationship. It may be interesting to have a pet snail, it may provide same distraction and amusement. But what the snail thinks of me, will forever remain a mystery. Unlike my dog, which entered my life when he was six years old - a completelyi different story. He recognises my voice, he shows excitement when he sees me, when we play, when we go on outings. He has developed cognitively and socially over time and understands many words, reads my actions, has his own likes and dislikes, socialises with people, and animals. My dog shows joy, sadness, anger, and will even react when he senses danger. My dog even has a sense of right and wrong. The list goes on, and on, and on. The point is, through our close relationdhip, over many years, my dog has become more 'human' than he would have, had dogs never been domesticated. How, much more then, can God elevate us, from our fallen state, and declare that we are his children. Certainly there is much more to be said about Theosis, than merely “growing in faith and good works,” progressing in sanctification or mortifying sin. Those are indeed excellent enterprises, but not ends in themselves. They are means employed toward a greater end. St. Paul is outlining this compelling, inspiring description of our identity in Christ, indeed showing us what total participation in Christ actually is. Ephesians 1 is a description of theosis. In other verses in Ephesians, St. Paul continues: we are to “be filled with all the fullness of God” (3:19) and to attain to “the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ” (4:13). We are to “grow up in all things into Him who is the head-Christ” (4:15). Again, this describes the process of being deified by grace, acquiring the fullness of Christ.
What an arrogant thing to say “before I send you packing”. The young man answered the question and he just kept talking over him and the bald guy acts like the kid couldn’t answer, but he did.
@@rhondahart2416 are we watching the same video? He kept talking over the kid while he was answering. How can you say that he didn't answer unless you "hear" the answer? No one can say he didn't just talk over him while trying to explain his beliefs. Totally deplorable behavior. And don't give me this crap about interpretations. ALL sects of Christianity interpret otherwise there would be only one sect. Ridiculous.
@@FTTLOMS Sam could be more patient but he deals with the same stuff over and over again so he gets tired of it. He asked the kid to read from the text and all he did was try to read his LDS interpretation of it and Sam doesn't tolerate that. My biblical studies are in cults , the LDS is a cult. They consider themselves Christian but they're not. Their God is not our God nor their Jesus our Jesus. Sam is not really my cup of tea but he's friends with Avery from Godlogic so I have watched a little of Sam. Avery is more patient most of the time. My ministry is to the Jehovah Witnesses and in dealing with them you find the same as the LDS which is they read their belief into the verse and they do not want to explore translating properly or learning anything else. Cults are taught that they need to keep control of the conversation and they are the only ones that have the correct answers. Sam , Avery and people like me understand this so we have the tendency to control the conversation because if you lose control then the conversation goes down a rabbit hole. It's called circular thinking and cults are masters of it. If you do not deal with this on a day to day basis this is difficult to understand and looks very crass but there's an art to it. Imagine if you had a hundred Mormons to deal with on a day to day basis and you heard the same stuff over and over again , after awhile it would get old because they don't have an open mind to explore other possibilities and they're told over and over they're the only ones that have the right answer.
Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity. 1 timothy 4 : 12
I came from God Logic converting the Muslim lady and I must say, bro your underlying tone is anger. You need to calm down, and have the fruits of the spirit. Take it easy brother. U can still win him over without winning an argument.
I lived and worked with Mormons for about 2 years in the Rocky Mtn West. Sam is exactly right about Mormon/LDS theology. But I will say that LDS people make the best small towns and cities of any place in the USA. They may be the best US citizens. It's so peaceful and nice living and working among them. It's like being transported back to 1950s America. I say that as a native Southerner and Bible believer. I pray each LDS member comes to know the genuine Jesus Christ and leave their works-based heresy.
Alas, Shamoun! You are mistaken, ignoring the scriptures and unaware of God's power... The boy did very well, and you, as usual, acted with your characteristic arrogance. You did not seek to save the young man, but to humiliate him: let this serve as proof that what you are doing does not come from Christ. Repent, and next time, do it humbly, do it in the manner of Christ, do it better.
Sam, I totally agree with you. I am Catholic, but I want you to hear me out: It seems to me you would have put forth a far more convincing argument for this guy if you took more of a charitable Christ-like approach. You seemed to me really condescending. If you go back and listen to him, he WAS apparently trying to be intellectually honest. Your logic is on point, Sam. I just don’t think it got through to him when you tell him to stop barking while he’s speaking at a clam volume. Also, when you tell him he can’t debate you because he’s too young. If anything, his LDS pastor’s words are probably ringing in his ears about the wickedness of Catholics and other “denoms” and how the enemy will try to turn them from the truth.
They are all brainwashed. That's why it's so difficult for them to leave. They all know it's true because they are discouraged to seek answers from anywhere other than their literature.
I stopped at 1:26 with the question of “how do you even handle ONE universe?” The rewards of Mormonism do not make sense to me because if you think of acquiring even a world like ours, one cannot possibly keep it all together. As a writer and tabletop gamer (formerly D&D), I kinda had to stop and realize that if I were given a world, with the knowledge I have, for all the work I do- that world would crash and burn within a few generations. Given all the power of creation, and only one mind, the only things that would function properly is what you observe. And this isn’t even contributing to if you decide to give your creations their own will. 😅 Any GM reading would be nodding their head right now- the disruptive players, the lazy ones, etc. you say “You can do anything you want” and they go “cool, imma burn it all down” and then you have to clarify or cast them out without realizing that your plans kept in account that everyone would work together so you have to replace that guy and the next one is worse than the first. 😂 I don’t envy God in the slightest having to deal with our nonsense while creating this good world (and the next). I don’t want His job, He’s doing a excellent work better than I ever could. I don’t see why He would give us such a gift without the infinite wisdom with it to make it all work smoothly. Edit: And if He does give that wisdom with it, prove it in writing.
There’s something wrong with someone that has nothing better to do than attack someone else’s religious beliefs. Members of the church are always doing service for others and trying to improve themselves.
I didn't see any person that came to destroy you. I saw a polite young man who admitted that he doesn't have all the answers and he wasn't afraid to show his face on camera - and above all, he wasn't "barking". Your title is slanderous and hateful.
I'll just say here that in the same experience through which the power of the Holy Spirit ineffably testified to me that Jesus is the Christ and gave me spiritual birth, it also revealed to me that the concepts of Mormonism related to where we come from, why we are here, where we are going, who Heavenly Father is, who Jesus Christ is, and who the Holy Spirit is are TRUE. And I testify of this in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
Maybe you should be more humble and not presume that you are worthy of such direct communications. How odd it is that this spirit of yours did not inform the church of these things for nearly 2,000 years until Prophet Joehammad.
In itself, Mormonism is the most American of all religions. Joseph Smith invents a religion connected to the American continent. And he embodies the American dream that you can become anything, even God. It's really fascinating what people believe. Even if it's obviously from an impostor.
Good day Mr. Shamoun, you are truly a very blessed Christian, a real mentor for me and my family. Thank your for being there for us, teach us and give us spiritual tools to fight present adversity, many blessings.
This boy was not prepared for this debate. But Col 1:15 tells us that Christ is the Firstborn of every creature! See also Rev 3:14 “ the Amen… the beginning of the creation of God.” These can be interpreted as Christ being the first spirit to be created. Per Mormon belief, God, the father has always existed and Jesus Christ also always existed as intelligences or light and truth. As the body has a beginning, the spiritual body also had a beginning, but they always existed as light and truth as conscious beings. In that sense they were never created!
@@dman7668 I found this by searching for Mary, Intercessor: "When praying to God the Father, it is customary to pray through Christ Our Lord. When praying to Jesus, however, many Catholics pray through the intercession of our Blessed Mother. The prayer you cite, praying through the Immaculate Heart of Mary, is a version of this. The practice emerges from the Gospel of John at the wedding feast at Cana. Mary is able to prevail upon Jesus, though, at first, he seems unwilling to make wine for the wedding. After her entreaty, he not only makes it, but he makes it in abundance. Mary’s role as a powerful intercessor has long been sought and rewarded. In terms of Mary’s heart, there is no heart more pure or more tuned to her son’s heart. She knows his will and just what to ask - and how. No one can have a greater intercessor with Jesus." Sorry, just as wonky as the Mormons.
Sam makes good points but his approach is grossly aggressive. (At least right here it is) He does realize we can be passionate about getting the word out but we are called to preach, teach and exegete with gentleness and respect. 1 Peter 3:15 ESV “But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,”
Bible - "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, NOT OF WORKS, lest anyone should boast." Book of mormon - "For we know that it is by grace that we are saved, AFTER ALL WE CAN DO..."
I was raised Mormon. I was there in primary class, then seminary, then priesthood meetings when they were talking about becoming gods, getting your own planet, that Jesus and Satan are literal brothers and descended from the heavenly mother and heavenly father, who also was born as a man and descended from an infinite regression of gods, and that there was a war in heaven. This is the “plan of salvation”. That is core LDS doctrine, but nowadays you’ll hear a lot of “we never taught that! That’s not official! That’s just speculation!” Don’t believe a word of it. They’re embarrassed of their doctrine and so they hide it, gaslight doubters or try to play it down. They’re trying to become more mainstream by changing “becoming gods” to “becoming godlike” and other such baloney. The LDS church is hemorrhaging members, the internet and widespread distribution of early church history is the cause of it, members are waking up.
The kid couldn't read the text in front of him. They are taught to interpret what is in front of them instead of reading the text. Heck they don't even have faith in the bible, that's why he didn't know there's no verse about Jesus being created. If you deal with this hundreds of times a day it would get old. I have a ministry to JW's and they rewrite this verse to fit this theology. Neither group get what firstborn means.
@@rhondahart2416 I think the kid would have a lot of faith in the Bible. Just because the Bible doesn’t explain the creation of Christ, how does that prove he wasn’t created?
@@AdamEyers My biblical studies are in cults, the LDS is a cult. This kid and all other Mormons are taught that the bible is corrupted by inaccurate translations. As you could tell he did not know the bible because they spend their time in the book of Mormon. My ministry is to the Jehovah Witnesses which also teach that Jesus is created. Both groups do not understand cultural terms such as firstborn and begotten. Firstborn does not always mean first physically born, King David is the firstborn in Psalm 89, David is the last born of Jesse, Ephraim is the firstborn of Joseph but the second born physically of Joseph. For Jesus firstborn is preeminent one, the one who would inherit all things. Begotten is basically glorified. This is why we have to translate to the original language to get the full understanding. As for Jesus being created, the JDubs try this one also. Jesus is the ruler from everlasting Micah 5:2, everlasting is eternity, eternity is static it doesn't change. Time started when the words let there be light were spoken. Isaiah 9:6 Jesus is Mighty God (ElGibor), Everlasting Father which is keeper of time. Was Mighty God created? John 1:1 the word was in the beginning and the word was with God and the word was God, the literal Greek is God is the Word. I think you can get the idea. Knowing the word of God is crucial so you can't be sucked into heresy. These people are highly trained to sound like they know what they are talking about but confidence doesn't mean accuracy.
@@rhondahart2416 I’ve never heard of anyone doing biblical studies in cults before. Hmmm? Most people would study the Bible to learn more about God and his dealings with mankind and to learn about our great exemplar, Jesus Christ, so we can better pattern our lives after him. As for Jesus being created or uncreated, you’ve still not provided any verses to support that. Just accused Mormons and Jehovahs Witnesses of being cults. The most literal translation of Micah 5:2 from the Hebrew is; Micah 5 2. And thou, Beth-Lehem Ephratah, Little to be among the chiefs of Judah! From thee to Me he cometh forth -- to be ruler in Israel, And his comings forth [are] of old, From the days of antiquity.
@@AdamEyers My friend, from my viewpoint there are some serious problems with your post. Lets start with never hearing of biblical studies in cults , that is called being an apologist. Have you never heard of apologists? Why do people study and /or go to school for pastoring, missions work, apologists, or professors in ancient biblical languages? It's because of their relationship with Yeshua, it's obedience. When you are born from above Holy Spirit enters you and seals you for eternity, when He does this ,part of His function is giving spiritual gifts and those gifts match perfectly the good works that are set aside from the Father for the work of the kingdom. This is super exciting to me because it's different for everyone but everyone gets a gift. One is not more important than the other but all are equal in building the kingdom. Have you ever thought about the burning desire you have inside you? God places that in you for the purpose for His glory! Now lets talk about the fact that you don't understand that Jehovah Witnesses and the LDS are cults. You also stated an inability to understand that Jesus is eternal. You probably live in the United States or a free part of the world where being a Christian is never challenged but that is going to change very soon. These two groups have a small group of men who herd them around telling them what to think, say, how to act, live and what to wear that is high control and if they leave the group it's very severe with shunning ,also high control. These men tell them anything they want and they are discouraged from searching outside their group. These two groups also started in the 19th century and produced extra biblical texts claiming they are revelations from their god. It's sola scriptura! As for Jesus being eternal, Jesus said to the Pharisees you search the scriptures and in them you think you have life but they are what speak of me and yet you're unwilling to come to me so you may have life, John 5:39,40. Those scriptures are the Tanakh. I would suggest you search the Tanakh to understand that Jesus is YHWH the visible one who is eternal. Having a Savior that is not eternal is one that can't save you. Have a blessed day.
St Athanasios of Alexandria wrote that "God became man so that we might become children of God" Athanasius, bishop of Alexandria, stated his belief in literal deification
Not sure why some people are so obsessed with trying to tell someone else that they’re not a Christian or they’re a heretic etc etc just because they believe something different about God or Christ. Wouldn’t it be amazing if this Sam guy started asking questions like “so tell me about how your belief in Christ helps you in your life?” or “let’s talk about the beliefs that we have in common”. It’s likely that listening to each other would result in much more harmony and understanding than this desire to hit someone over the head with bible verses in a quite arrogant manner, which can only lead to negative feelings (which are not really Christlike feelings).
Sam is a bit much but he deals with heretics all day long and all they want to do is give their interpretation instead of reading the text. Sam wants people to understand from this Mormon that they don't even understand their own theology, which they don't. The reason we should have apologetics is to tell people about the real gospel of Christ. Do you follow Hello Saints? That is a totally different approach which I'm not quite sure about but the Pastor is the opposite of Sam.
Because the teachings of the jehovah witness doctrine are different from the teachings of the mormon doctrine .while, yes, it's true that Jesus is present in those 2 religions. They don't follow what Jesus said. They follow what their founder said. For example, according to mormon doctrine, God comes from a planet called Kobol and that Jesus and Satan are brothers. Jesus never said that Satan is his brother. That was a lied created by Joseph smith, and people believe that. So that is the problem ,people follow what their founder said, and because of that, people are being lied to.
There is a time when conversation is pointless, their not seeking truth because they are all they want within themselves and have become self righteous, the very people God spews out of His mouth.
Praying that Sam planted a seed with this young man and he truly seeks The Truth. The fullness will come from God if it is His will. Even so Maranatha.
For any that read my comment, I recently joined the church of Jesus Christ-latter day saints. I am so grateful to be a part of it. And I pray that you will soften your heart, and ask me why. We are not the way, Jesus is. This man and his witty intelligence is trapping a young man in his faith, whether right or wrong. We need you Jesus Christ!
Dude could have handled that more gracefully. The young guy is legit trying to understand. He said he didn't want to debate him and then made it a one sided debate. Our goal as Christians is to spread the word and help those seeking the light. Not to try and make people look like fools when they are trying to learn.
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and Satan told Adam and Eve they could be like god too.
Haha, then Satan should have eaten the apple too
@@ally7993 good point
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satan told them they could like angels
He seduced Eve and taught her how procreation works and with which she can create life. He did not told her the birth pains, which God states in Genesis 3.16
The Devil uses these false doctrines to drag souls into eternal hell.
@@MrCapitalizer What false doctrines do you refer to? If you mention at least 5 with ontradictions from the bible then i will agree with you..otherwise your statement has no value..
I mean contradictions not ontradictions.
Yeah, like telling people they just need to say one prayer to be saved.
@@MainoLahuifalse doctrine like Jesus is created. Like become a god. Like temple requirements. Like Joe being a prophet. Like another Testament of Jesus. Like after all you can do 2 Nephi 25:23
There are so many more
@@georgebauerschmidt5289 JESUS is our firstborn, our elder brother. He is and was JEHOVAH of the Old Testament. It was by Him and through Him and of Him the worlds are and were created. We pray to the Father through Him and by His Name. It was because of Him, our Heavenly Father's plan for the happiness of all His children (us) is possible and that is through His gospel. There are saving ordinances in His gospel first of which is baptism for the remission of sins. But before that ordinance you need to have faith in Him JESUS CHRIST and repent. After baptism, laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost John 3:3-5. About the Temple yes Isrealites were Temple worshiping people Old Testament supports that ideaology like Moses and the tabernacle and the Isrealites, Solomons Temple and so forth. In our Saviours time He dismissed the vendors because they were turning the holy site of the Temple into a market place. Some of the saving ordinances of the Gospel of JESUS CHRIST like family sealing and others are only performed in the Temple His Holy House and no where else. After we do all these things and endure to the end..we can be exalted, receive the fullness of joy and live in the eternities. That's what our loving Heavenly Father and His Son JESUS CHRIST wants us to obtain. And about the Book of Mormon go and search Isaiah 29:11-12, Ezekiel 37:15-20, Revelation 14:6.. Tribe of Judah and Joseph are these two records Holy Bible and The Book of Mormon. And they both support each other and point out to the Gospel of JESUS CHRIST. All of these things were revealed through Prophet Joseph Smith.
This kid is very uncomfortable. The constant face fidgeting and touching is a dead giveaway.
My son does the same stuff when he's anxious.
So would you be anxious if you had someone over talking you.
@@Burglar-King i think you're misreading the situation
@@Burglar-King Sam plants more seeds than a weed farm in California. This kid needed to hear this, might not be converted yet, but the holy spirit will water the seed and he will come eventually. The kid has no intellectual authority in the conversation and should listen more than talk. You should also take note from this, maybe you need to advance in your own life. You gonna do it by yourself? Good luck. You want to learn? This is that moment for the kid.
Everyone is uncomfortable when being interrogated by Sam. He's aggressive AF lol
How could anyone EVER see this religion as Christian? The whole point is that we are NOT God
Ya you don’t understand anything
@@scottm4975 what is it that you believe I don’t understand?
Mormons are more pagan the the Muslim
@@Ameydusa1it’s the church or Jesus Christ. He’s part of the church’s logo. He appeared to a prophet. He leads our church today. He lives. He died for our sins. He wants us to become like him by following his example. He was baptized, so are we in his name. We pray in his name. We follow his words in the scriptures. The book of morning and the Bible are a testament of his life and atonement of our sins.
That’s what we believe about Christ and that’s why we’re Christian. We don’t expect you to share all of the beliefs we have, but why not find the common ground.
@@Drew-fu8fc I’m Christian
He's a liar. I'm a former mormon, I tell you he's lying and pretending to not know things
Maybe he is just uneducated
As an ex Mormon I can say that they can't really defend what they actually teach. Their goal is to pretend to be Christians in order to lead people astray.
Yes they do that.
THAT IS THE STRUGGLE OF MAN,THE FEELINGS AND A LIE ARE FRIENDS,ITS SO HARD TO BE AN ADULT IN THIS WORLD WHEN WE ARE STILL KIDS IN GUERILLA SUITS
@@mosalina9134no, I picked up on it too. He’s clearly pretending not to know things because he knows how stupid and flimsy the doctrine sounds out loud.
Its just another version of islam.
True Mormonism and Islam have the same demonic “Spirit” of deception.
The Quran came 600 years after Christianity and Muhammad said an "angel" named Gabriel came and told him that he is the last prophet and that he came to correct our scriptures and gave him a new gospel. Islam also claims to be the proper continuation of Christ’s teaching.
2000 years after Christianity, Joseph Smith of the Mormons said an "angel" named Moroni came to him with their own book, to correct our scriptures…and the Book of Mormon has a new gospel. Mormonism also claims to be the proper continuation of Christ’s teaching.
The same thing happened in a few other cults.
The Bible says in Galatians 1:8
"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed."
The Bible foresees all of these false religions. And gave us warnings way before Islam or Mormonism or any of these false religions were even created. These were not "angels"..
Jesus said “It is finished” when He died on the cross.
There is no ‘last prophet’ or later revelations or books or continuation of Christ’s teachings.
The two really have a lot of similarities
True...Mormonism and Islam have the same demonic “Spirit” of deception.
The Quran came 600 years after Christianity and Muhammad said an "angel" named Gabriel came and told him that he is the last prophet and that he came to correct our scriptures and gave him a new gospel. Islam also claims to be the proper continuation of Christ’s teaching.
2000 years after Christianity, Joseph Smith of the Mormons said an "angel" named Moroni came to him with their own book, to correct our scriptures…and the Book of Mormon has a new gospel. Mormonism also claims to be the proper continuation of Christ’s teaching.
The same thing happened in a few other cults.
The Bible says in Galatians 1:8
"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed."
The Bible foresees all of these false religions. And gave us warnings way before Islam or Mormonism or any of these false religions were even created. These were not "angels"..
Jesus said “It is finished” when He died on the cross.
There is no ‘last prophet’ or later revelations or books or continuation of Christ’s teachings.
Islam is wayyyyyyy worseeee
@@nn5410 Islam is aggressive and mormonism is relatively benign however Satan isn't that bothered how he dams you.
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
I seriously can't believe this took off. Mormons are absolutely bonkers
Dude all religions are crazy. The gates of heaven were locked because a woman ate an apple...that's nonsensical at best.
@@disturbed157
With all the sense you believed to have acquired you couldn't know that the Bible never mentioned apple😂😂😂😂
@@disturbed157 Not really, If you Understand them Properly , and Know which ones Are from the Creator, and which ones are from His opponent .
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@@disturbed157 Nowhere in the Bible does it say "the gates of heaven were locked because a woman ate an apple" So you don't know what Christianity teaches but you pass judgment on it. That's pathetic at best...
Leaving Mormonism was one of the best decisions I ever made.
@@joelofjudah9144 Why and what made you to make that decision??
Isaiah 43:10 is legit a femur breaker for Mormons....
“Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.”
Isaiah 43:10 KJV
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A Femur Breaker hahahahahahaha
If you read the next verse, verse 11, it puts it in context that there is only one savior, there is one God of this world, that’s Jesus Christ. There is no confusion there unless you pretend Isaiah is not in the context of this world and this salvation.
@@amjidhuss1092We believe that God is one….
Thank you Jesus for delivering me from the deception of Mormonism I was raised in and showing me your true gospel of the Bible ! Praise Yeshua
Yahshua
@@mimon5569 Yeshua, Yahshua, Yahushua, all correct
@@jakepayne8522 Thanks for editing
So what cult do you belong to? The Methodist, Baptist, church of Christ? All religions are cults. It does not say in the Bible you need to go to church to worship god.
@@HardRock-rc1hw does it say in the Bible not to go to church?
I was a mormon for 40 years, also se4ved a mission and believed and was taught just like this kid.
I'm so glad I allowed myself to see the truth and to see how ridiculous mormonism is.
So glad I escaped before my death
Romans 10:9 -- If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord" and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, YOU WILL BE SAVED." Are you reading the New Testament?
Wow!! Mormons!!! Why are they call themselves as christian....
Obviously you never were either active or knew LDS theology well.
@@ulusalani Does someone really believe Jesus is Lord if they deny his divinity?
@@thefly6537 Nope. Don't think so. The foundation of the Christian faith is that Jesus of Nazareth was born fully God and fully man. Anyone who does not accept that is not a part of the body.
Thankfully, me and my friends managed to save a friend from Mormonism, as soon as they understood the facts, she left the Mormon church.
You guys are great friends! God is soo good! God Bless you all!
If this is what you call facts, it would seem to me this friend of yours is just dumb and gullible to have believed you.
@@DannyAGray Will you become a planet or a star? x)
@@steapessanhu will I become a planet or a star? Not that I know of. 🤣🤣
Mormonism doctrine sounds like something a 7th grader would make up after reading the Bible once.
Just like the Bible.
So what cult do you belong to? The Methodist, Baptist, church of Christ? All religions are cults. It does not say in the Bible you need to go to church to worship god.
You have no authority to say what the Bible means
Correction …You mean reading two pages & saying you know it all now
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Wow, I never knew how conflicted that religion is! Now there’s millions more to pray for who are totally oblivious to the truth! Love you Sam, praying for you in this battle 🖖👀
I lived with Mormons (Church of Later Day Saints.......They always claimed the bible was companion book to the Book of Mormon. While living with them, they were preparing for a "Sealing Ceremony".....They had to conduct themselves in a certain way to qualify for this "ritual" and they claimed they would be married together for eternity after they die. Later, while sitting in temple, I was reading the bible and realized how much the book of Mormon contradicts the bible: Matthew 22:30 "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in Heaven". Thank you God for showing the truth about the Church of Later Day Saints............
I saw the same thing! When I discovered this I was mad! Reading this made me realize these people don’t know god, they don’t read the book! Cuz If they did read the book they would see this verse and run. They claim they read it, but in the sermons it’s all Book of Mormon. This is just one contradiction.
You should know that their “bible” is edited and changed. Everything they say is true according to their changed bible.
@@arthurels5832your a liar quick google search they have all but one book the book of Esther they have the originals so your a liar and do not know what your talking people just google this liar
It’s fun to come in here and see how much people misunderstand.
I served a mission for the LDS church and a guy told me to my face the the LDS bible had the book of John removed. So I pulled out my KJV Bible printed by the LDS church and asked him to look to see if the book of John was gone and, well I’ll be damned, it was there. He spent a good 10 minutes looking around for all the changes his pastor told him about and could t find any. Haha!
There is no marriage in the resurrection, that has to happen beforehand. Jesus is right.
Jesus could come down and tell every Mormon they're wrong, and they still wouldn't believe .
Same for mainstream Christianity
@@mahonri69 or you.
@@mahonri69? What is mainstream Christianity?
@@mahonri69what do you mean? If Jesus actually appeared and told me I was wrong, I’d absolutely change because I’m submitted to Jesus alone.
Now, there’s an issue with the fact that Jesus won’t come down again until the Second Coming and at that point it won’t matter, but in this hypothetical, I’d absolutely change and shift my beliefs.
Can you say the same? If God told you Mormonism was false, would you stop being a Mormon?
@@austinnajaryes I will follow the teachings of Christ not your satanic teacher
I simply had a hard time following this young man. Everything was ethereal with no concrete answers. And, what is with all the skin pinching he constantly did to himself, that was quite strange!
Coping mechanism.
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He is Fidgety because He is unsure of his faith .
It's self soothing. I believe a lot of us do it somehow under pressure without knowing.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches the truth..this young returned missionary is trying to explain but Sam is refusing to listen by cutting him off just like that...come on Sam..and how could you go on at the end and criticize..the Church that JESUS CHRIST from His own lips said in the very begining of the Doctrine and Covenants that it is the only true and a living Church on the face of the earth.. Our Saviour said that after He was introduced to Prophet Joseph Smith by our Heavenly Father whom both stood side by side as seperate, exalted and glorified Beings.
Imagine believing the book of mormon which was created in 1850 and plagiarized the Bible 2000 years before it. What nonsense.
@@nn5410 If you actually look into the accuracy of the Bible ie the translations to English from the originals, they are 99.7% accurate with minor changes to grammar rather than anything substantive. The message does not change.
"Much of the Bible is based on material from egypt / sumeria" - This is a conspiracy theory with no basis. Like saying Jesus was copied from Osiris or something, totally bull made up tinfoil hat nonsense.
Excerpt from GotQuetsions on the accuracy of the Bible:
Most people have asked, or at least wondered, something to the effect of, “How do we know the guys who wrote the Bible just didn’t make all that stuff up?” Such questions dealing with the Bible’s trustworthiness and accuracy should be answered honestly and clearly.
The approach to assessing whether the Bible is accurate in what it reports is the same used to evaluate any other historical book. The legal/forensic method and its principles are employed to judge the validity of historical texts and whether the reported testimony is factual. There are three primary tests historians use within the forensic method:
First is the bibliographical test. This examines the reliability of the available manuscripts and the time that elapsed between the events in question and their recording. When applied to the New Testament, literally no other ancient text measures up. The New Testament has tens of thousands of ancient manuscripts that can be extensively compared to each other; plus, those manuscripts have the earliest dating to its recorded events of any historical book. In other words, the books of the New Testament were written very soon after the events they describe, leaving no room for legend to creep in. In fact, Paul cites more than 500 eyewitnesses to the risen Christ, “most of whom are still living”-meaning that his readers were free to check out the truth for themselves and confirm the accuracy of what he wrote.
Another proof of the New Testament’s early dating exists in the writings of early Christian leaders such as Clement (c. AD 95), Ignatius (c. AD 107), Polycarp (c. AD 110), Justin Martyr (c. AD 133), and others. Historians have determined that the entire New Testament could be completely reconstructed from citations from the early church fathers, with the exception of 27 verses, most of which come from 3 John.
The second test used by historians to assess the accuracy of ancient texts, including the Bible, is the internal evidence test. This test concerns itself with whether there are multiple attestations of the events in question and whether those accounts are free of contradictions (i.e., do they match?). With respect to the New Testament, multiple eyewitness accounts exist that all tell the same story. As for contradictions or manuscript variants, the overwhelming majority of biblical variants are inconsequential, consisting of spelling and numerical differences, sentence word order changes, etc. This leads scholars such as Neil Lightfoot to say, “Practically all of the variations found among the manuscripts do not affect our present text. Although a few textual problems remain, these are explained in the footnotes of most recent translations” (How We Got the Bible, Baker, 2003, p. 104).
The third and final historiographical test for accuracy is the external evidence test, which asks if evidence outside the document in question corroborates the text. In the case of both the Old and New Testament, countless archaeological discoveries validate the historicity of the Bible. In addition, works such as Robert Van Voorst’s Jesus Outside the New Testament chronicle what non-biblical writers had to say about Jesus.
To sum up, using historians’ three key tests from the forensic/legal method for validating the trustworthiness of an ancient text, no other work from ancient history comes close to matching the reliability and accuracy of the Bible.
Maybe some parts of the old testament, but most not. Israel begins with Abraham, and before Abraham there is much that applies to the entire world at that time. This includes Egypt and the Sumerians.@@nn5410
@@nn5410No we have the manuscript evidence to show that the Bible hasn't been altered. The words themselves might vary from manuscript to manuscript, but the message itself has not changed. We have thousands of manuscripts of the New Testament works from the first century and Israel has countless Old Testament scrolls. We know for a fact what was taught way back when. The idea that the Bible has been altered throughout time is not based in evidence.
@@joelofjudah9144exactly.
No time for these people.
@@nn5410 i think you’ve misunderstood.
Read again.
I thank God for protecting me from all false religions growing up.
Jesus Christ is God Almighty 💯🙏🙏
Yeah, that's all well and good but with mormons you have to dig and dig and really pin them down. They'll say a lot of statements that sound orthodox, but there's always an "*" next to each word.
Exactly, but sadly still Not enough believers are aware of This His Secret. Peace with you, until His Second Arrival immediately After the End of the "world".
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@@amjidhuss1092 Hallelujah! You are absolutely right. The LORD is one. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are YHWH, the One God, the Holy One of Israel. Christ has always existed; he was with God in the beginning, and it was He who created all things. The Holy Spirit was there in the beginning hovering above the void. And God said, "Let Us make man in Our image." Thus was man created in the image of the triune God. Hallowed be His name forever.
Jesus is Jesus, NOT GOD!
love the Mormon content. Their religion makes me so sad bc they genuinely believe we believe in the same Christ but we simply do not
LORD thank you for saving me from this cult.
Welcome home
So what cult do you belong to? The Methodist, Baptist, church of Christ? All religions are cults. It does not say in the Bible you need to go to church to worship god.
@@HardRock-rc1hw It does talk about the body of Christ and what is the body of Christ?
@@HardRock-rc1hwAll religions are not cults. Would you have said that to the Jews? God is the one who gave them their religion. He never changes. He is consistent.
Yes. The Bible is clear. We MUST go to church and worship God His way and on His terms. Most churches are not biblical. That's likely why you're frustrated. I was too for many years and I stopped going to church. There are a ton of hypocrites and fake Christians in Christianity today. Especially in the US.
@@HardRock-rc1hw The disciples of Christ-the ones who were with Jesus, and wrote the bible- created the churches to worship God.
GLORY BE TO THE FATHER, TO THE SON, AND TO THE HOLY SPIRIT, ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. HALLELUJAH. AMEN.
Joseph Smith is the reincarnation of the Editor of the Qur'an.
2 books same author...satan..
It does seem to be islam lite.
They both started a religion for sex,money and power,now that part is likely over for eternity,sad but true. thanks
Joseph Smith was a Mason and also a Criminal who was shot and killed while trying to escape from jail. Also a real CON ARTIST.
@@neerajbenjamin19195-6 bibles same author ~ satan
Wow, I can’t believe they send these kids out as missionaries when they know nothing about what they say they believe.
Or maybe you know nothing about what they believe
Iv watched many ex Mormon videos. They explain that they teach these missionary what to say, how to debate and how to lie. They say it’s called “lying for the lord” if you are a Christian you should look more into this false religion because they are very good at deceiving. Also if you are a Mormon and you start asking questions about the religion they will tell you “milk before meat” and something about when you receive a gift (Mormonism) you should just except the gift and not ask about the gift.
@@scottm4975 No, actually, I was able to answer the questions he was being asked because as a young Christian (about 30 years ago) I studied cults at Bible College and had many discussions with Mormons and JWs. The Mormons I spoke to back then were far more knowledgeable. Maybe I just came upon a bunch of “good” ones.
Respect to the kid for at least admitting he doesn’t have much knowledge or even an opinion on many of the things Sam questioned him about. God bless him, and may he be brought to the truth of Jesus one day.
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@@TheKingdomSeeker Those are the best ones to send out on mission. Bubbling enthusiasm coupled with canned scripts.
But he believed things he doesn't know, because he listened to their leaders without reading the bible, but because their bible lie to them.
He may have been playing dumb,if true that removes all respect,wouldn't you say? thanks
"In the beginning was the word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning" (John 1:1).
2Кор 13:13: "Благодать Господа нашего Иисуса Христа, и любовь Бога Отца, и общение Святого Духа со всеми вами. Аминь."
And also with you.
The Father, son, and the Holy Sprit! Really simple ! May God bless everyone✝️🇺🇸!
Is it just me or do all Mormons look alike in some way?
LOL Hahahahahahha A wonderful moment of comedy. :-) I think maybe it might just be you. :-)
Probably inbreeding, would explain the low IQ...
I guess they are mostly White Americans who are clean shaven
The fact that they only marry other Mormons has led - and did especially in the 19th century with polygamy being rampant - to concentration of genes. This does not appear to have been harmful, but there is, in fact, a "Mormon look."
Yes, it's called "Mormon face" and it's a real thing. Look it up lol.
You can tell his he’s nervous by the picking of his face
This is not even Christianity good Lord...💀💀
As Christians we should try to have engaging discussions, not debates where we are firing questions one after the other and not letting people respond. We're to bring people to Christ, not push them away.
They are already away from Christ. They need to be given a heavy dose of the Gospel. This kid will come back and rewatch this later and if his is a truth seeker, he will come to faith in the Triune God.
@@alisterrebelo9013 I would never come back to a person who says that I am barking.
Are you barking brother? Are you a dog?
@@amakrid I was an atheist and I only stopped to think when some Christian online challenged me strongly to stop and think through my argument about morality. I'd been a truth seeker all my life, I left God because I thought the atheist horsemen had good arguments and I came back when I realised Christians had better arguments.
You might be easily offended, but I am not. So no, I'm not barking and I'm not a dog.
I also didn't go around insulting God or any religious people when I was atheist. I simply didn't believe, but I was OK letting religious people have their beliefs.
@@alisterrebelo9013 So, do you agree with Sam when he is telling the young guy to "stop barking" or when he is warning that he will send him back "packaged"?
Is this the "heavy dose of Gospel" that you were personally given by this Christian? This is the question here.
@@amakrid I'm not defending or promoting Sam's behaviour. But I want to ask you, how many people have you brought to Christ?
BRainwashed is the right word. THeir tradition supercedes the true word of God. Yaweh said he is God and their is no other. THey believe in endless gods who started out as mere men. WHat a rabbit hole.
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Psalm 82:6 I said, 'You are gods, all of you, sons of the Most High. Galatians 4 also talks about this. In chapter 3, Paul had just explained we're all sons of God through faith in Jesus. John 10:34 Jesus answered, Is it not written in your Law, I said, You are gods?
We're not God Most High, we can't speak all of creation into existence but we are God's children, we are part of His pantheon, and one day we'll have immortal invulnerable glorified bodies and in that way we'll be gods compared to what we are now. Right now we're like petri dish gods in an embryo type stage.
@@GrumpyOleMe Psalms 82:6 is refering to angels. You will die like men die, God tells them for their unfaithfulness. JEsus is condemnig the Phairsees and teachers of the Law who would have known that verse and recognize that as angel are sons of God by his speaking them into existence(not procreation/sex act) then surely JEsus would be, (if he was who he claimed to be) worthy of being called the Son of God(his one and only Son, which you obviously do not believe). As far as Galatians 3:26 is concerned, we humans can become a child of God by virtue of our adoption. Romans 8. We're not literally spit out of some God woman's vagina by her procreating with her husband God and his sperm. How foolish cany you be. THe sad thing is you believe if your good enough you'll be able to do that one day. Beyond messed up.
Mormon doctrine and theology is very weird 😂😂😂
they are weirder than JW and Islam
@@ElCid48 they also weird but this part of becoming a God is the worst one 😂😂
@@khayatokweIt seems like a corruption and misunderstanding of Theosis.
@@ElCid48I almost think their far worse the Islam this is just blatant heresy
@@khayatokwe If you understand the Holy Bible you won't say what you just said concerning Mormon doctrines.
They are a cult.
You are just jumping to conclusion without investigating the Church yourself..
@MainoLahui I have research the church.
@@MainoLahuido you know how much info is out there about the lds church???? it’s a lot ,trust !people know exactly what Mormonism is.
@@MainoLahuiit’s a cult. If you have to defend a group/organization/people then it’s a cult. It has been verified by cult experts and concluded that Mormonism is a cult.
@@danib712 satan can lead people to hate the truth..that's what he is doing at the moment because he knows that after the great apostacy which was after the death of the apostles..our loving Heavenly Father and His Son JESUS CHRIST brought about Restoration in 1820 through the Prophet Joseph Smith.. So in short I can say through JS the priesthood keys, priesthood authority, saving ordinances like baptism and family sealing just to mention few are brought back to life so that we can one fine day go back and be exalted and live with our loving Heavenly Father and His Beloved Son JESUS CHRIST in the highest kingdom of heaven which is Celestial.. That is what our Heavenly Father and His Son wants us to receive..and all of these blessings we could not receive unless we live the Gospel of JESUS CHRIST and that mention Gospel is Restored..if only people investigate the Church themselves they will know the truth instead of listening to other people's negative stories about The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints and draw conclusions..
imagine believing in something all your life that can be debunked by Sam in a few minutes.
What, exactly, did he "debunk"?
Are you that easily deceived? All he did was ram rod an obscure belief in hopes that certain of his listeners would think it ridiculous.
Ĥe "debunked" nothing. The scriptures teach us over and over that we are all brothers and sisters; and that we existed before we came here to earth, and God knew us then too. Jesus taught us this. And also to pray to our Father in Heaven, HIS Father in Heaven also. And among us, before we came to earth, was Lucifer. He was one of the greatest among us. He was all of our brother. But he rebelled against God and was cast out. And ⅓ of our brothers and sisters followed him!
It's not hard to understand and follow. So yes, Lucifer IS the spiritual brother of Jesus. He is the spiritual brother of us all. We chose to follow God, all of us who came here and received bodies. And now it is up to us to follow Jesus, who took upon himself the mantle of messiah, to save us from the sin of this world if we follow him.
I got to say that i respect this young man. He is honest with his answers.
@@altasadventures1139 Sam never discusses anything. He is asking questions and he is dictating the answers. If he doesn't get the answer he dictates, he offends his interlocutor.
Demanding from the other to move according to your plan proves no mental speed and knowledge.
pity Mormon
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@@amjidhuss1092 Hebrew word for One of Echad Which means one in unity or unity, not singularity
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Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” jesus not God. Jesus prophet of one true God
should have asked him if Bigfoot is the seed of Cain?
Nope, Because the Black brothers Are the Cain's descendants but the Bigfoot is Not related to our - Human race and he is Absolutely Not easy to track down or to get caught. That is why it is sooo rarely been seen in the history. Pwy.
😂😂😂
big foot is real so dont be sarcastic he lives next to little foot
Is that an actual thing? Lol
Bigfoot gets annoyed because his drivers license photo makes him look like Gregg Allman@user-sq2cn9vy4q
As an ex Mormon, you were pretty bad faith at the end. You can’t prove your point unless you dismantled theirs. That was completely illogical on your part and everyone’s time was wasted and nothing was accomplished. You were unwilling to go into the trinity yet you were unwilling to understand his point - you can’t refute his point until you have it and you wouldn’t even let him make it. You will not bring Mormons to Christ properly this way.
This wasn't about the Trinity. It was about whether Jesus was created or not. The text proves Jesus is not created. The young man simply wants to read his theology into the text instead of accepting the text.
Praise the Lord
Satan said something similar to Eve
Without the transgression none of us would exist the plan could not have come to pass free agency would not exist for any of us.
This makes less sense than the hadiths in Islam. 🤦♂️
You have no idea!
It's so weird to think about mormon's faith. Are you serious you believe you will become a god with your own planet?
I’ve asked God if I could have my own planet and reality warping powers far off in the universe lol.
So, to qualify for this limited time offer of Godhood, you must:
1. Be a Mormon. Other good folks get a lesser prize, i.e., a "Heaven" where God isn't (i.e. Hell).
2. Be a really good Mormon, who tithes 10%, goes on a mission, does good works, and performs baptisms and marriages for the dead. Oh, and wears white shirts to church, wears special Mormon underwear (available ONLY from the COJCOLDS), and abstains from tea, coffee, and hot caffeinated beverages. And Coca-cola. But lemon-lime soda is okay. Those failing get a Lesser "Heaven" where Jesus visits but God doesn't.
3. Be married to a person who did all of the things in Qualification #2, above. Better still, married for time to one, and for eternity to many (if male). Those missing this step get the Good Heaven, where God is, but do not qualify for The Grand Prize of Ultimate Deity.
4. Be among the best at being married holy people who are married to married holy people. Those missing this step get extra stuff in the 3rd heaven, but not the Grand Prize.
5. Be male (females only get to be Goddesses/Wives, who, along with sister wives, make spirit-babies for the God to whom they are married).
So, fortunately, only a tiny tiny percentage of Mormons would hypothetically WIN THE GRAND PRIZE and become Gods.
Otherwise, this would be like some sort of celestial pyramid scheme...
It's in the Bible
@@mahonri69 Let me guess, the book of mormon? 😂
@@fcampos10 No, he's going to try to get you to read Phil. 2:5-6 without the context of Phil. 2:3-8.
"3 [Let] nothing [be done] through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. 4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others. *5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:* 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."
Reading just vv.5-6, they try to make you think Paul is telling you to be like Jesus in His divinity, but Paul is saying to be like Jesus in His humility - the _POLAR OPPOSITE_ of what the Mormons want you see in this passage.
My uncle was an evangelist, I was at his house when mormons came to talk to him. He asked them if they knew about the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Where mornons posing as native Americans massacred a large group of settlers. They were dumbfounded, and he gave them the rundown on it.
Sam likes to pick on weak minded mormons. It is easy to pick this returned missionary apart. This mormon should just stick to yes or no or I do not know answers.. Sam, What is your religious history?
Sam has been completely unhinged and thinks it is okay to attack Christians and non-Christians verbally, and he uses insane language to do so. He may have great logic, but if you can't give the truth in love, but attack people on a regular basis, not interested. I'll stick to other apologists with similar theology but better love.
“Don’t try to debate me, you’re too young to debate me”. Proceeds to title this video as a debate. What a prick lol
Wow mormonism is wild.
The pinching of his neck wast no doubt because he was nervous. Sam was illustrating some basic points on logic alone which results in his religion making no sense. I hope he has a humble heart to honestly critique his religion and find the truth.
He itches more and more when Sam factually states their doctrine.. Why is he nervous about it ??
Sam's gotta ask a question, then SHUT UP. So many videos of his are immensely frustrating with his continual overtalking. I'm a Christian, but Sam is one frustrating, and impolite interviewer.
Sounds like you need to learn patience
@@Katoliko7sounds like Sam needs patience..
He said we can be gods.. Terrible cult. Leave this cult
John 10:34.
@@amakrid
Way to base an entire theology on one MISUNDERSTOOD verse. Jesus is speaking to the pharisees in regards to their LAW. Not scripture. Because they had the responsibility to judge men, they were referred to, and referred to themselves as gods, not Gods.
You're on a path to Hell if you don't repent of this foolishness.
@@theoldestkidintheworld7365 First of all, Jesus repeats not a verse from the Law nor something which referrs to the pharisees, as you claim, but a verse of Psalm 82.
Second, in the Gospel of Luke, Adam is also called "son of God" hence in 1st Corinthians 15:45 Jesus is called "the last Adam". The differences between the old son of God and what we call the Son of God are obvious to everyone who has elementary knowledge of the Christian theology - but the differences do not negate the fact that Jesus was a human being.
Paul also, in his famous sermon in Athens, acknowledged that every human being is a son of God, for God "is not far from any one of us. For in him we live and move and exist. As some of your[d] own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’" (Acts 17: 27-29).
The offsprings of God, the creatures that were made in his image and likeness, the sons and daughters of God, die as mere mortals due to sin, but can still be elevated in the state which God conceived for them in his mind - which is the state of the Christ.
This is the anthropology of the Eastern Church. For more information, look for the term "theosis".
God, save this kid.
Even in HEAVEN we will never be "gods". How can a man or another created creature become a "god"????
Humans are superior to all the creatures on/in the earth and none of us is considered to be a "god".
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@@amjidhuss1092who said God is not one, God is one
Psalm 82:6 I said, 'You are gods, all of you, sons of the Most High. Galatians 4 also talks about this. In chapter 3, Paul had just explained we're all sons of God through faith in Jesus. John 10:34 Jesus answered, Is it not written in your Law, I said, You are gods?
We're not God Most High, we can't speak all of creation into existence but we are God's children, we are part of His pantheon, and one day we'll have immortal invulnerable glorified bodies and in that way we'll be gods compared to what we are now. Right now we're like petri dish gods in an embryo type stage.
True, we will never become part of the Trinity, or become creator gods, or out-do God in our divinity. But the Bible clearly states, the aim of the Christian life and salvation, is partaking in the Divine Nature, or Theosis.
2 Peter 1:3-4, which states that God’s “divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness” through the knowledge of God, who called us by His own glory and goodness. Through these things, He has given us His great promises so that we “may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.", is one of many texts that mentions the union that becomes a Christian's inheritance as they work out their salvation in fear and trembling.
Theosis is, becoming through grace, what God is by nature. We can never know or experience God's essense, but we can know and experience Him through his energies. We are created in his image and his likeness. The fall has obliterated the likeness, but the image, has remained, sadly damaged and imperfect. But it is there. Christ has come to restore both. I always explain it by referring to my dog, and an imagnary pet snail. Let"s face it, there is no way the pet snail and I will ever be able to have a truly meaningful and mutually reciprocal relationship. It may be interesting to have a pet snail, it may provide same distraction and amusement. But what the snail thinks of me, will forever remain a mystery. Unlike my dog, which entered my life when he was six years old - a completelyi different story. He recognises my voice, he shows excitement when he sees me, when we play, when we go on outings. He has developed cognitively and socially over time and understands many words, reads my actions, has his own likes and dislikes, socialises with people, and animals. My dog shows joy, sadness, anger, and will even react when he senses danger. My dog even has a sense of right and wrong. The list goes on, and on, and on. The point is, through our close relationdhip, over many years, my dog has become more 'human' than he would have, had dogs never been domesticated.
How, much more then, can God elevate us, from our fallen state, and declare that we are his children. Certainly there is much more to be said about Theosis, than merely “growing in faith and good works,” progressing in sanctification or mortifying sin. Those are indeed excellent enterprises, but not ends in themselves. They are means employed toward a greater end. St. Paul is outlining this compelling, inspiring description of our identity in Christ, indeed showing us what total participation in Christ actually is. Ephesians 1 is a description of theosis. In other verses in Ephesians, St. Paul continues: we are to “be filled with all the fullness of God” (3:19) and to attain to “the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ” (4:13). We are to “grow up in all things into Him who is the head-Christ” (4:15). Again, this describes the process of being deified by grace, acquiring the fullness of Christ.
Sir you should debate with the hindu guy and teach them jesus is the only Lord
We done debunked every abhramic religion' next is Hinduism for sure
What an arrogant thing to say “before I send you packing”.
The young man answered the question and he just kept talking over him and the bald guy acts like the kid couldn’t answer, but he did.
He didn't answer, he gave an interpretation instead of reading the text.
@@rhondahart2416 are we watching the same video? He kept talking over the kid while he was answering. How can you say that he didn't answer unless you "hear" the answer? No one can say he didn't just talk over him while trying to explain his beliefs. Totally deplorable behavior. And don't give me this crap about interpretations. ALL sects of Christianity interpret otherwise there would be only one sect. Ridiculous.
@@FTTLOMS Sam could be more patient but he deals with the same stuff over and over again so he gets tired of it. He asked the kid to read from the text and all he did was try to read his LDS interpretation of it and Sam doesn't tolerate that.
My biblical studies are in cults , the LDS is a cult. They consider themselves Christian but they're not. Their God is not our God nor their Jesus our Jesus.
Sam is not really my cup of tea but he's friends with Avery from Godlogic so I have watched a little of Sam. Avery is more patient most of the time.
My ministry is to the Jehovah Witnesses and in dealing with them you find the same as the LDS which is they read their belief into the verse and they do not want to explore translating properly or learning anything else.
Cults are taught that they need to keep control of the conversation and they are the only ones that have the correct answers. Sam , Avery and people like me understand this so we have the tendency to control the conversation because if you lose control then the conversation goes down a rabbit hole. It's called circular thinking and cults are masters of it. If you do not deal with this on a day to day basis this is difficult to understand and looks very crass but there's an art to it. Imagine if you had a hundred Mormons to deal with on a day to day basis and you heard the same stuff over and over again , after awhile it would get old because they don't have an open mind to explore other possibilities and they're told over and over they're the only ones that have the right answer.
The young men just stand no chance, he is lost in his Mormon non senses.
Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity. 1 timothy 4 : 12
I came from God Logic converting the Muslim lady and I must say, bro your underlying tone is anger. You need to calm down, and have the fruits of the spirit.
Take it easy brother. U can still win him over without winning an argument.
I lived and worked with Mormons for about 2 years in the Rocky Mtn West. Sam is exactly right about Mormon/LDS theology. But I will say that LDS people make the best small towns and cities of any place in the USA. They may be the best US citizens. It's so peaceful and nice living and working among them. It's like being transported back to 1950s America. I say that as a native Southerner and Bible believer. I pray each LDS member comes to know the genuine Jesus Christ and leave their works-based heresy.
I could certainly believe that.
And they love their JELL-O too don't they?!
Mormonism is so convoluted. If you know their history, it is hard to equate it with Christianity.
It's not
Wow 😂😅
Sam is the real Cristian
Another MIC DROP! Thank you Brother, GOD BLESS your Good Work!
Your engaging discussions are refreshing and your spirit runs without growing weary.
The young man is not a professional debater it’s hard to ask him to answer a lot of questions without letting him ask you.
That's exactly why u keep ur mouth shut and listen
Alas, Shamoun! You are mistaken, ignoring the scriptures and unaware of God's power... The boy did very well, and you, as usual, acted with your characteristic arrogance. You did not seek to save the young man, but to humiliate him: let this serve as proof that what you are doing does not come from Christ. Repent, and next time, do it humbly, do it in the manner of Christ, do it better.
Sam, I totally agree with you. I am Catholic, but I want you to hear me out:
It seems to me you would have put forth a far more convincing argument for this guy if you took more of a charitable Christ-like approach. You seemed to me really condescending.
If you go back and listen to him, he WAS apparently trying to be intellectually honest.
Your logic is on point, Sam. I just don’t think it got through to him when you tell him to stop barking while he’s speaking at a clam volume.
Also, when you tell him he can’t debate you because he’s too young.
If anything, his LDS pastor’s words are probably ringing in his ears about the wickedness of Catholics and other “denoms” and how the enemy will try to turn them from the truth.
Oh my goodness these ppl are so lost. Thank you Sam, I never knew how far off track they are.
that boy had an unhealthy attitude
This kid should not have been questioned. He’s just a brainwashed Missionary.
They are all brainwashed. That's why it's so difficult for them to leave. They all know it's true because they are discouraged to seek answers from anywhere other than their literature.
I converted from LDS this year to Catholic it has been such a blessing
I stopped at 1:26 with the question of “how do you even handle ONE universe?”
The rewards of Mormonism do not make sense to me because if you think of acquiring even a world like ours, one cannot possibly keep it all together. As a writer and tabletop gamer (formerly D&D), I kinda had to stop and realize that if I were given a world, with the knowledge I have, for all the work I do- that world would crash and burn within a few generations. Given all the power of creation, and only one mind, the only things that would function properly is what you observe. And this isn’t even contributing to if you decide to give your creations their own will. 😅 Any GM reading would be nodding their head right now- the disruptive players, the lazy ones, etc. you say “You can do anything you want” and they go “cool, imma burn it all down” and then you have to clarify or cast them out without realizing that your plans kept in account that everyone would work together so you have to replace that guy and the next one is worse than the first. 😂
I don’t envy God in the slightest having to deal with our nonsense while creating this good world (and the next). I don’t want His job, He’s doing a excellent work better than I ever could. I don’t see why He would give us such a gift without the infinite wisdom with it to make it all work smoothly.
Edit: And if He does give that wisdom with it, prove it in writing.
There’s something wrong with someone that has nothing better to do than attack someone else’s religious beliefs. Members of the church are always doing service for others and trying to improve themselves.
I didn't see any person that came to destroy you. I saw a polite young man who admitted that he doesn't have all the answers and he wasn't afraid to show his face on camera - and above all, he wasn't "barking".
Your title is slanderous and hateful.
The title is true, as many souls are destroyed by the those who teach the book of Mormon as people who have been deceived have testified
_If Theodor "Dr. Seuss" Geisel founded a religion_ ...
I'll just say here that in the same experience through which the power of the Holy Spirit ineffably testified to me that Jesus is the Christ and gave me spiritual birth, it also revealed to me that the concepts of Mormonism related to where we come from, why we are here, where we are going, who Heavenly Father is, who Jesus Christ is, and who the Holy Spirit is are TRUE. And I testify of this in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
Maybe you should be more humble and not presume that you are worthy of such direct communications.
How odd it is that this spirit of yours did not inform the church of these things for nearly 2,000 years until Prophet Joehammad.
In itself, Mormonism is the most American of all religions. Joseph Smith invents a religion connected to the American continent. And he embodies the American dream that you can become anything, even God. It's really fascinating what people believe. Even if it's obviously from an impostor.
Good day Mr. Shamoun, you are truly a very blessed Christian, a real mentor for me and my family. Thank your for being there for us, teach us and give us spiritual tools to fight present adversity, many blessings.
This boy was not prepared for this debate. But Col 1:15 tells us that Christ is the Firstborn of every creature! See also Rev 3:14 “ the Amen… the beginning of the creation of God.” These can be interpreted as Christ being the first spirit to be created. Per Mormon belief, God, the father has always existed and Jesus Christ also always existed as intelligences or light and truth. As the body has a beginning, the spiritual body also had a beginning, but they always existed as light and truth as conscious beings. In that sense they were never created!
Wow MARONY you need to stop preaching your crap you don’t get planets or universe and God is God and Jesus is the son of God period❤
Keep up the good work bro
Proud Catholic ...
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus...
@@johnbarnas879 ??
@@johnbarnas879 Thank you, we Catholics know that. We don't have some mediator outside of Christ.
@@dman7668 I found this by searching for Mary, Intercessor:
"When praying to God the Father, it is customary to pray through Christ Our Lord. When praying to Jesus, however, many Catholics pray through the intercession of our Blessed Mother. The prayer you cite, praying through the Immaculate Heart of Mary, is a version of this. The practice emerges from the Gospel of John at the wedding feast at Cana. Mary is able to prevail upon Jesus, though, at first, he seems unwilling to make wine for the wedding. After her entreaty, he not only makes it, but he makes it in abundance. Mary’s role as a powerful intercessor has long been sought and rewarded. In terms of Mary’s heart, there is no heart more pure or more tuned to her son’s heart. She knows his will and just what to ask - and how. No one can have a greater intercessor with Jesus." Sorry, just as wonky as the Mormons.
@@johnbarnas879 ua-cam.com/video/6RHELipVNjA/v-deo.html
Sam makes good points but his approach is grossly aggressive. (At least right here it is)
He does realize we can be passionate about getting the word out but we are called to preach, teach and exegete with gentleness and respect.
1 Peter 3:15 ESV
“But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,”
Met a few missionaries, was told on the first day much more than they told me in the next month, precisely because they were so open. But Sam, thanks!
WTH is this kid doing to his neck the whole time? It’s like saying his beliefs out loud is causing his brain to short ⚡️🧠🤤
Young adult's skin ready to have mustache and beard!!!!!!!
its most likely a coping mechanism when under stress , we do it ourselves some if not most of us don’t ever realize it though
Mormonism is polytheism.
I love how Sam smirks every time the kid calls God "Heavenly Father." It's the silly little Mormon version of calling God "Daddy Dearest."
Many religions address God as Heavenly Father or Father in Heaven
Bible - "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, NOT OF WORKS, lest anyone should boast."
Book of mormon - "For we know that it is by grace that we are saved, AFTER ALL WE CAN DO..."
I was raised Mormon. I was there in primary class, then seminary, then priesthood meetings when they were talking about becoming gods, getting your own planet, that Jesus and Satan are literal brothers and descended from the heavenly mother and heavenly father, who also was born as a man and descended from an infinite regression of gods, and that there was a war in heaven. This is the “plan of salvation”. That is core LDS doctrine, but nowadays you’ll hear a lot of “we never taught that! That’s not official! That’s just speculation!” Don’t believe a word of it. They’re embarrassed of their doctrine and so they hide it, gaslight doubters or try to play it down. They’re trying to become more mainstream by changing “becoming gods” to “becoming godlike” and other such baloney. The LDS church is hemorrhaging members, the internet and widespread distribution of early church history is the cause of it, members are waking up.
You're not helping the kid. You're pushing him away by your rude comments. Preach the truth in love.
Shame on those who teach religion and lead people like this guy away from God for great shall be their punishment indeed. God bless.
Which guy?
Shamoun is such an arrogant bully. Let the kid talk and make his point without trying to subdue him and walk all over him.
The kid couldn't read the text in front of him. They are taught to interpret what is in front of them instead of reading the text. Heck they don't even have faith in the bible, that's why he didn't know there's no verse about Jesus being created. If you deal with this hundreds of times a day it would get old. I have a ministry to JW's and they rewrite this verse to fit this theology. Neither group get what firstborn means.
@@rhondahart2416 I think the kid would have a lot of faith in the Bible. Just because the Bible doesn’t explain the creation of Christ, how does that prove he wasn’t created?
@@AdamEyers My biblical studies are in cults, the LDS is a cult.
This kid and all other Mormons are taught that the bible is corrupted by inaccurate translations. As you could tell he did not know the bible because they spend their time in the book of Mormon.
My ministry is to the Jehovah Witnesses which also teach that Jesus is created.
Both groups do not understand cultural terms such as firstborn and begotten.
Firstborn does not always mean first physically born, King David is the firstborn in Psalm 89, David is the last born of Jesse, Ephraim is the firstborn of Joseph but the second born physically of Joseph. For Jesus firstborn is preeminent one, the one who would inherit all things. Begotten is basically glorified. This is why we have to translate to the original language to get the full understanding.
As for Jesus being created, the JDubs try this one also. Jesus is the ruler from everlasting Micah 5:2, everlasting is eternity, eternity is static it doesn't change.
Time started when the words let there be light were spoken.
Isaiah 9:6 Jesus is Mighty God (ElGibor), Everlasting Father which is keeper of time. Was Mighty God created? John 1:1 the word was in the beginning and the word was with God and the word was God, the literal Greek is God is the Word. I think you can get the idea. Knowing the word of God is crucial so you can't be sucked into heresy. These people are highly trained to sound like they know what they are talking about but confidence doesn't mean accuracy.
@@rhondahart2416 I’ve never heard of anyone doing biblical studies in cults before. Hmmm? Most people would study the Bible to learn more about God and his dealings with mankind and to learn about our great exemplar, Jesus Christ, so we can better pattern our lives after him. As for Jesus being created or uncreated, you’ve still not provided any verses to support that. Just accused Mormons and Jehovahs Witnesses of being cults. The most literal translation of Micah 5:2 from the Hebrew is; Micah 5
2. And thou, Beth-Lehem Ephratah, Little to be among the chiefs of Judah! From thee to Me he cometh forth -- to be ruler in Israel, And his comings forth [are] of old, From the days of antiquity.
@@AdamEyers My friend, from my viewpoint there are some serious problems with your post.
Lets start with never hearing of biblical studies in cults , that is called being an apologist. Have you never heard of apologists?
Why do people study and /or go to school for pastoring, missions work, apologists, or professors in ancient biblical languages? It's because of their relationship with Yeshua, it's obedience.
When you are born from above Holy Spirit enters you and seals you for eternity, when He does this ,part of His function is giving spiritual gifts and those gifts match perfectly the good works that are set aside from the Father for the work of the kingdom. This is super exciting to me because it's different for everyone but everyone gets a gift. One is not more important than the other but all are equal in building the kingdom. Have you ever thought about the burning desire you have inside you? God places that in you for the purpose for His glory!
Now lets talk about the fact that you don't understand that Jehovah Witnesses and the LDS are cults. You also stated an inability to understand that Jesus is eternal.
You probably live in the United States or a free part of the world where being a Christian is never challenged but that is going to change very soon.
These two groups have a small group of men who herd them around telling them what to think, say, how to act, live and what to wear that is high control and if they leave the group it's very severe with shunning ,also high control. These men tell them anything they want and they are discouraged from searching outside their group.
These two groups also started in the 19th century and produced extra biblical texts claiming they are revelations from their god. It's sola scriptura!
As for Jesus being eternal, Jesus said to the Pharisees you search the scriptures and in them you think you have life but they are what speak of me and yet you're unwilling to come to me so you may have life, John 5:39,40. Those scriptures are the Tanakh.
I would suggest you search the Tanakh to understand that Jesus is YHWH the visible one who is eternal. Having a Savior that is not eternal is one that can't save you. Have a blessed day.
This guy is condescending and argumentative
St Athanasios of Alexandria wrote that "God became man so that we might become children of God" Athanasius, bishop of Alexandria, stated his belief in literal deification
On the surface this can be oversimplified to vaguely sound like the same belief, but anyone familiar with both knows that it's not.
@@bigol9223 if you have an argument as to how they are not im all ears.
Not sure why some people are so obsessed with trying to tell someone else that they’re not a Christian or they’re a heretic etc etc just because they believe something different about God or Christ. Wouldn’t it be amazing if this Sam guy started asking questions like “so tell me about how your belief in Christ helps you in your life?” or “let’s talk about the beliefs that we have in common”. It’s likely that listening to each other would result in much more harmony and understanding than this desire to hit someone over the head with bible verses in a quite arrogant manner, which can only lead to negative feelings (which are not really Christlike feelings).
Sam is a bit much but he deals with heretics all day long and all they want to do is give their interpretation instead of reading the text. Sam wants people to understand from this Mormon that they don't even understand their own theology, which they don't. The reason we should have apologetics is to tell people about the real gospel of Christ.
Do you follow Hello Saints? That is a totally different approach which I'm not quite sure about but the Pastor is the opposite of Sam.
Because the teachings of the jehovah witness doctrine are different from the teachings of the mormon doctrine .while, yes, it's true that Jesus is present in those 2 religions. They don't follow what Jesus said. They follow what their founder said. For example, according to mormon doctrine, God comes from a planet called Kobol and that Jesus and Satan are brothers. Jesus never said that Satan is his brother. That was a lied created by Joseph smith, and people believe that. So that is the problem ,people follow what their founder said, and because of that, people are being lied to.
Because the early church fathers were doing the same, they wrote to heretics or about heretics so Jesus teachings were preserved
Sam loves to interrupt (and avoids questions)!
There is a time when conversation is pointless, their not seeking truth because they are all they want within themselves and have become self righteous, the very people God spews out of His mouth.
Praying that Sam planted a seed with this young man and he truly seeks The Truth. The fullness will come from God if it is His will. Even so Maranatha.
He planted a seed for sure. He told the young man that he is "barking" and that he will send him "packing".
For any that read my comment, I recently joined the church of Jesus Christ-latter day saints. I am so grateful to be a part of it. And I pray that you will soften your heart, and ask me why. We are not the way, Jesus is. This man and his witty intelligence is trapping a young man in his faith, whether right or wrong. We need you Jesus Christ!
Dude could have handled that more gracefully. The young guy is legit trying to understand. He said he didn't want to debate him and then made it a one sided debate. Our goal as Christians is to spread the word and help those seeking the light. Not to try and make people look like fools when they are trying to learn.