In my opinion this is a great album - but flawed. Like Sandinista it needs to be cut back by 25-35%. Richie I agree with most of your, but I love it. Belongs in your Top 20. I think of the word angular, rhythmic, cutting. I hear Gang of Four’s “Entertainment” and Mission of Burma. Thanks for reviewing.
Totally agree - maybe compare Sandinista against London Calling which is so much tighter. Would also love to hear your views on the Mekons (specifically “The Mekons Rock and Roll” album including “Heaven and Back”).
Great video. I almost never comment but I love your channel. One of the few VC channels that is really about music. I always love your approach. And this album was very important for me. Great to see your view on it.
Aloha Vinyl Richie, Thanks for doing a deep dive into the Minutemen - Double Nickels On The Dime Record album. I must admit I'm not familiar with this band. So thanks to you I'll take a listen on UA-cam. Looking forward to watching your next video. Mahalo Ed
Hey MR. RiChiE! Love your channel. There is a single sided Promo of Double Nickels that highlights the best of this record. It is hard to find but i did find a copy back in the 90s at a record show in Columbus Ohio were i am from. It is called Wheels of Fortune. One sided record with etched side B. But anywho it does a amazing job at hitting the best songs from the L.P. worth looking for as it is a better listen. Cheers Sir!
Good video - did not suck. I haven’t listened to this in probably ten years. Thought I liked it but should probably revisit it. You should do more deep dives 🤘
This was very informative video. I was always kinda, I don’t know and I don’t really get it with the Minutemen. Now I know just leave this one behind. I shoulda listened in my twenties. Lol. Peace ☮️ Namaste 🙏 the Zonkman
Rich you got this one right imo! This double album has so many highs and lows, it’s a literal roller coaster. 2 sides and it would be a classic. As it is for fans of the genre, get a reissue cause that mofo OG is expensive. Cheers dude
There is a documentary on the Minutemen you might like it’s called “We Jam Econo.” It goes way into this record and how it was made , it was a response to Hüsker Du Zen Arcade. I freaking love the minutemen, they have other records you’d probably like better
That’s why on the inner liner notes of the lp it says “Take that Huskers!”. Because Zen Arcade was the only other double album SST put out. Not only is the music genius, but the artwork is superb. Raymond Pettibon was a genius artist.
Cool review (I like the offbeat style anyway) for a pretty cool album. I have it on CD but the vinyl is pricey now. Howza 'bout reviewing Slint's 'Spiderland' in th same way.
Had to adjust to that guy driving on the wrong side of the car. It endangers the whole Road Safety Dance. That album cover puts us in the back seat, and you were doing some backseat driving there, V-R. Now, mine was the 33rd Like. Some ppl get crucified at that time of life but I was doing the Resurrection Shuffle. A late bloomer, I finally went to college, and due to a weird aptitude for computer programming at a time when the masses were just starting to own home pcs, I was teaching the subject a year later. That wasn't the half of it. Like some jellyfish monster in a Quatermass script my brain was expanding across 4 different universities at the same time without any of the universities realising I was oversubscribed, making up for lost time in 5 fields, all the way to PhD at 50. Truth is I was already self-taught across the board as a teen, that was the main thing. Now I've long forgotten everything I knew about programming and today's whizzkids leave me standing in the dust. So now here I am taking notes watching Prof Vinyl Richie do his weekly seminar for the postgrads of VC University. So next you;re doing double albums, V-R? Will this include Beatles red & blue? - - because those were my first Beatles albums. If I hit the 19th Like on the next vid I can tell you all about it. The tension is unbearable.
I experienced severe burnout on DNOTD because friends played it so much when it first came out. I prefer their previous albums or My First Bells comp. Fantastic live band! Still like it much more than Zen Arcade
I absolutely hated it when I bought it in 92...I’ve ended up liking it 5% more each year..I’m at the point where I find it pretty fantastic now. Unfortunate it might have invented The Red Hot Chilli Peppers.
@@vinylrichie007 Ritchie, if I was intelligent then I wouldn’t spend my Sundays waving Human League albums in front of my IPhone while talking cobblers! 😅
I think they were making an antidote to the type of music that they themselves were fans of in the 70s. No 10-minute power ballads. No effort to make lyrics rhyme. It's not the composed structure of most commercial albums of the time and was more cut-and-paste; kind of like a collection of sketches in a notebook more than a refined masterwork (e.g, Dark Side of the Moon, etc.). Like Saccharine Trust, they were pushing a much more art-punk perspective, rather than the hardcore that was brewing at the time. It makes for a hodge-podge of an album, but really great stuff in the end.
was given Project Mersh as compromise/throw away gift as a kid...as in GBH or Bad Brains that I wanted were not going to be bought...I hated it but thought I bet in a few years I'll love this shit....I was right.....still love it today....what I love most or close to most is how some tracks of any of their records are monuments that stand tall in any era....as well as the minnows awaiting death in an obscure puddle... no significance ...but ...its like they know some of the tunes aint all that...but check em out anyways they're all part of the process of getting to the big picture of this band....takes a good musical temperament to review these dudes and you def have that nuance VR.....
'Our albums are like rivers' said Mike Watt once. So this is not so much a collection of individual songs, hits even. Maybe you should dive some more and start learning to swim like I did numerous times. I 'd take this (with all it's flaws or maybe because of it) to a desert island. Oh and there's a great 33/3 book out there which offers a very deep dive into it.
I’ve listened to the album quite a few times but this was the first time I got through the whole thing in one sitting. I saw the Minutemen live twice. My desert island 2LP warts and all is the Beatles White album.
I lied one more comment. Doctor Wu is also a Steely Dan cover man and Aint talkin about love is a joke version of Van Halen. Your list should remain the same. Please follow up with telling your viewers that MINUTEMEN "Why do men start fires" is the record to have a listen. All bands are spotty
After listening to it again. The funky songs, the music sounds like a really raw Red Hot Chili Peppers and the vocals sound like a really raw, unpolished and angry David Byrne type. Maybe it's just sometimes the phrasing reminds me of Talking Heads. Their sound changes from song to song on side 3 and 4. The bass lines aren't as funky on some songs and it's more straightforward.
I enjoyed your deep dive of this album Rich. For me, this album is definitely at least half filler material. To be honest I loved the minutemen but only in small doses. The ep was the best format for them. The JOY ep is stellar. The PARANOID TIME ep is genus. The BEAN SPILL ep is killer. I find their lps to be too long. Even the first two where tracks sound similar. However they were unlike other hardcore bands. Like a combination of WIRE and GANG OF FOUR. There will never be another band like this. Even firehose sounded different. The CD version excludes 3 tracks. RIP d.
@@stevegilmore2093 i did not say it was bad. It is a POOR choice considering the other Minutemen options. Its a Maistream vanilla choice. A safe option, which I do think is bad and deteimental to the community. The mainstreaming of punk.
@@Shawn_at_Vinyl_Minimalist The community? Double nickels came out in 84’, and brought a lot of variety and influence into the genre. Even if you don’t like the music you gotta atleast appreciate the creativity behind it. Punk rock isn’t just a strong heavy voice behind fast distorted guitar and fast drums. The minutemen out-punked the punks, and people like you would never understand that because you don’t have much artistic insight.
@Steve Gilmore I've got the first minutemen 45. I understand the timeline. I don't enjoy it and I only collect records I enjoy or have boobies. If you wanna collect "important records" then you do you. Personal insults are pretty petty from a grown man or a clown. 🤡
i appreciate the rigorous approach to the new music. it is a bit of a pity you didn’t discover this Best Album Of All Time in the 80s as i did however. my friend your entire musical life has been a ripoff if you are only now hearing this. god bless you but please catch up for the love of god. the minutemen are the best of the best. time to study, there will be an exam.
I like a lot of the songs that you are calling throwaways. That's your opinion. I like how the whole album falls together. I even like the Van Halen and Steely Dan homage. Sadly, the version of "Little Man With A Gun In His Hand" is weaker than the one on Buzz Or Howl... which rocks like a sunovabitch. "History Lesson, Pt. 2" is a tear-jerker in this reporter's opinion. If you hear this album, only the vinyl version has the correct presentation, plus lock grooves(on sides 3 & 4)!
So wait...in doing the "deep dive" you did not listen to the complete album? So this was a shallow dive. But then you proceed to review all four sides? Hmmm. This album is a statement sound. Could it have been one disc? Yes. At least you mentioned the poignant and beautiful "History Lesson - Part II".
I have an original pressing also and I hardly ever play this album. It’s been compared to Arcade Zen by Husker Du but I think Arcade is a much better album.
As you know I do really like this album but it’s not a top 25 for me. A couple of their other albums I like better like What Makes A Man Start Fire and The Politics of Time. I also have the book your talking about, great book. This would have been an incredible 1 lp album, but I say that about every 2 record set. I think this is the first time I have seen you sit down. It was like story time
O.k after this i will be done. Dont look now is great even as a live recording. Its a CCR COVER MAN! Just in that live context for this band to cover it makes it cool. Stop it
You are being too hard on this album, and too hard on yourself. Taking notes makes listening to music into homework. Just enjoy. Don't use shower... don't use shower.
I use the word "genius" in two ways. In frivolity for something I think is cool. Or, in its literal definition. The Minutemen are overrated and you just dissected their most famous record. Nice shirt by the way!
I love this album. Every song in it is great but Maybe Partying Will Help may be my favorite.
Every song?
In my opinion this is a great album - but flawed. Like Sandinista it needs to be cut back by 25-35%. Richie I agree with most of your, but I love it. Belongs in your Top 20. I think of the word angular, rhythmic, cutting. I hear Gang of Four’s “Entertainment” and Mission of Burma. Thanks for reviewing.
@@jeffreysobczynski7113 I should do a deep dive of Sandinista next.
Totally agree - maybe compare Sandinista against London Calling which is so much tighter. Would also love to hear your views on the Mekons (specifically “The Mekons Rock and Roll” album including “Heaven and Back”).
@@jeffreysobczynski7113 Spot on - I really enjoyed the album, but it did have quite a bit of filler and could have been tightened up.
This album is the height of Western Civilization. Three geniuses letting it rip. Thanks for giving it your time.
I have given it my time.
This album is one of the greatest sets of songs ever put to tape.
I don’t hate it but it is a bit lower on my list.
Great video. I almost never comment but I love your channel. One of the few VC channels that is really about music. I always love your approach. And this album was very important for me. Great to see your view on it.
This might sound stupid but your comment is what I needed. I have been a bit discouraged. Thanks.
Thanks for doing this deep dive. I love this album! Very innovative for the time, but that’s SST for you!
Thanks for the comment.
I think it would be only appropriate to make the next detailed examination of… about Zen Arcade. I enjoyed this a lot. Greetings from Greece
I was thinking the White album.
@@vinylrichie007 Would be very interesting to hear your thoughts on that too.
Never got bored listening to it. It was like the mid-80s "punk" equivalent to De La Soul's "3 Feet High & Rising".
I haven’t heard the De La Soul album. I’m thinking it has to be better.
I interupted watching this to listen to the first track you mentioned, Vietnam, it was good.
Nice chair and shirt
Sorry for the interruption.
Aloha Vinyl Richie,
Thanks for doing a deep dive into the Minutemen - Double Nickels On The Dime Record album. I must admit I'm not familiar with this band. So thanks to you I'll take a listen on UA-cam.
Looking forward to watching your next video.
Mahalo Ed
Thanks for watching
Hey MR. RiChiE! Love your channel. There is a single sided Promo of Double Nickels that highlights the best of this record. It is hard to find but i did find a copy back in the 90s at a record show in Columbus Ohio were i am from. It is called Wheels of Fortune. One sided record with etched side B. But anywho it does a amazing job at hitting the best songs from the L.P. worth looking for as it is a better listen. Cheers Sir!
I have never heard about that promo. That is an excellent find.
For the ultimate listening experience, I am going to play this album in the background and listen to your review again over it..
Put the video on a loop.
I love it but I always suspected it should have been edited, but that’s part of what makes it so amazing
I think it is pretty good but I may end up selling it.
Love this record!
Love is strong.
Good video - did not suck. I haven’t listened to this in probably ten years. Thought I liked it but should probably revisit it. You should do more deep dives 🤘
I will do some more deep dives.
I can’t imagine anyone’s life not changing immediately upon hearing this record but to each their own
Meet The Beatles, Horses by Patti Smith and Damaged by Black Flag had more impact on me. Thanks for the great comment.
D. Boon. RIP
gr8 album - hear for the dive
This was very informative video. I was always kinda, I don’t know and I don’t really get it with the Minutemen. Now I know just leave this one behind. I shoulda listened in my twenties. Lol. Peace ☮️ Namaste 🙏 the Zonkman
Yeah, I think you can pass on this one.
Rich you got this one right imo! This double album has so many highs and lows, it’s a literal roller coaster. 2 sides and it would be a classic. As it is for fans of the genre, get a reissue cause that mofo OG is expensive. Cheers dude
I may sale this one.
"Corona" AKA "Theme Song from Jackass".
There is a documentary on the Minutemen you might like it’s called “We Jam Econo.” It goes way into this record and how it was made , it was a response to Hüsker Du Zen Arcade. I freaking love the minutemen, they have other records you’d probably like better
That’s why on the inner liner notes of the lp it says “Take that Huskers!”. Because Zen Arcade was the only other double album SST put out. Not only is the music genius, but the artwork is superb. Raymond Pettibon was a genius artist.
@@stevegilmore2093 yes sir…
I do have a couple of other Minutemen records.
I’ll check out the documentary.
Worth a listen just to hear Mike Watt play bass.
I really dig the drums.
I love this album
I like it.
Cool review (I like the offbeat style anyway) for a pretty cool album. I have it on CD but the vinyl is pricey now. Howza 'bout reviewing Slint's 'Spiderland' in th same way.
Never listened to Slint.
That was a deep dive...I like the videos where you hide a swig of your beer behind the LP - always makes me snigger....
I haven’t done that inna while.
Had to adjust to that guy driving on the wrong side of the car. It endangers the whole Road Safety Dance. That album cover puts us in the back seat, and you were doing some backseat driving there, V-R.
Now, mine was the 33rd Like. Some ppl get crucified at that time of life but I was doing the Resurrection Shuffle. A late bloomer, I finally went to college, and due to a weird aptitude for computer programming at a time when the masses were just starting to own home pcs, I was teaching the subject a year later. That wasn't the half of it. Like some jellyfish monster in a Quatermass script my brain was expanding across 4 different universities at the same time without any of the universities realising I was oversubscribed, making up for lost time in 5 fields, all the way to PhD at 50. Truth is I was already self-taught across the board as a teen, that was the main thing. Now I've long forgotten everything I knew about programming and today's whizzkids leave me standing in the dust.
So now here I am taking notes watching Prof Vinyl Richie do his weekly seminar for the postgrads of VC University. So next you;re doing double albums, V-R? Will this include Beatles red & blue? - - because those were my first Beatles albums. If I hit the 19th Like on the next vid I can tell you all about it. The tension is unbearable.
My cousin took computer programing in the 70’s. He is now in HR.
I have that record and I never listen to it. I can't wait for you to get into ZEN ARCADE.
I may sell this.
Interested.👍🏻
We jam econo!
great video, their first record is y go to but I love this one
I prefer the first.
Do you like Firehose?
They were okay.
One of thee great (post) punk albums!
Great is strong.
I experienced severe burnout on DNOTD because friends played it so much when it first came out. I prefer their previous albums or My First Bells comp. Fantastic live band! Still like it much more than Zen Arcade
I burned out on it also.
You should be able to put whatever you want on your list and not worry about what other people think.
I don’t worry about what other people think. I think it is interesting the extremes this record evokes.
Very uneven but some killers. Was thinking of getting it finally but opted for their best of comp.
A best of comp sounds interesting.
@@vinylrichie007 only CD I think
Way to class things up with a collared shirt.
Have to wear a collar when doing deep dives.
I absolutely hated it when I bought it in 92...I’ve ended up liking it 5% more each year..I’m at the point where I find it pretty fantastic now. Unfortunate it might have invented The Red Hot Chilli Peppers.
The Peppers are truly awful sadly.
So you like it 150% now.
@@vinylrichie007 Ritchie, if I was intelligent then I wouldn’t spend my Sundays waving Human League albums in front of my IPhone while talking cobblers! 😅
I think they were making an antidote to the type of music that they themselves were fans of in the 70s. No 10-minute power ballads. No effort to make lyrics rhyme. It's not the composed structure of most commercial albums of the time and was more cut-and-paste; kind of like a collection of sketches in a notebook more than a refined masterwork (e.g, Dark Side of the Moon, etc.). Like Saccharine Trust, they were pushing a much more art-punk perspective, rather than the hardcore that was brewing at the time. It makes for a hodge-podge of an album, but really great stuff in the end.
Hodge podge is the perfect description.
A music stand would be good for propping up an album
Not going to happen.
Yeah, i've listened to this album several times. It just doesn't do it for me. But I enjoyed your breakdown of the album.
Yeah, I won’t return to this one any time soon.
I agree!
was given Project Mersh as compromise/throw away gift as a kid...as in GBH or Bad Brains that I wanted were not going to be bought...I hated it but thought I bet in a few years I'll love this shit....I was right.....still love it today....what I love most or close to most is how some tracks of any of their records are monuments that stand tall in any era....as well as the minnows awaiting death in an obscure puddle... no significance ...but ...its like they know some of the tunes aint all that...but check em out anyways they're all part of the process of getting to the big picture of this band....takes a good musical temperament to review these dudes and you def have that nuance VR.....
I remember the Project Mersh but never checked it out.
'Our albums are like rivers' said Mike Watt once. So this is not so much a collection of individual songs, hits even. Maybe you should dive some more and start learning to swim like I did numerous times. I 'd take this (with all it's flaws or maybe because of it) to a desert island. Oh and there's a great 33/3 book out there which offers a very deep dive into it.
I’ve listened to the album quite a few times but this was the first time I got through the whole thing in one sitting. I saw the Minutemen live twice. My desert island 2LP warts and all is the Beatles White album.
@@vinylrichie007 Well at least it's not Siouxsie. 😝
I lied one more comment. Doctor Wu is also a Steely Dan cover man and Aint talkin about love is a joke version of Van Halen. Your list should remain the same. Please follow up with telling your viewers that MINUTEMEN "Why do men start fires" is the record to have a listen. All bands are spotty
All bands may be spotty but not as spotty as this. Ain’t Talking Bout Love is a good one.
After listening to it again. The funky songs, the music sounds like a really raw Red Hot Chili Peppers and the vocals sound like a really raw, unpolished and angry David Byrne type. Maybe it's just sometimes the phrasing reminds me of Talking Heads. Their sound changes from song to song on side 3 and 4. The bass lines aren't as funky on some songs and it's more straightforward.
The Minutemen are to blame for the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
This album has some gems but most is okay. I’d say Paranoid Times is a perfect album.
I prefer Paranoid Time.
There is no Paranoid Time album.
oh Yeah AND From Ohio. FIREHOSE! After D. Boone passed. Check it
I also saw them live. I did live in LA.
@Vinyl Richie we all know your cool and lived in L.A I only said that because there might be young fans reading the comments. Geez
@@BKCook-ye2np Geez what? Take a deep breathe.
Best rock album of the 80s
I enjoyed your deep dive of this album Rich.
For me, this album is definitely at least half filler material. To be honest I loved the minutemen but only in small doses. The ep was the best format for them. The JOY ep is stellar. The PARANOID TIME ep is genus. The BEAN SPILL ep is killer. I find their lps to be too long. Even the first two where tracks sound similar. However they were unlike other hardcore bands. Like a combination of WIRE and GANG OF FOUR. There will never be another band like this. Even firehose sounded different. The CD version excludes 3 tracks. RIP d.
Another I meant to mention was the licked grooves at the end of every side. The CD doesn’t have that. I have their first 7” and Paranoid Time.
Trout Mask Replica for the 80s.
Except it isn't shit
That would be a good one to do.
That was my Garbage comment. That comment was mostly an overeaction to the VCs blind worship of it without mention of the much better earlier eps.
Dude it’s not overworshipped jesus. I’d say it’s slightly overrated but not how you or richie are describing it, doesn’t mean it’s bad either.
@@stevegilmore2093 i did not say it was bad. It is a POOR choice considering the other Minutemen options. Its a Maistream vanilla choice. A safe option, which I do think is bad and deteimental to the community. The mainstreaming of punk.
@@Shawn_at_Vinyl_Minimalist The community? Double nickels came out in 84’, and brought a lot of variety and influence into the genre. Even if you don’t like the music you gotta atleast appreciate the creativity behind it. Punk rock isn’t just a strong heavy voice behind fast distorted guitar and fast drums. The minutemen out-punked the punks, and people like you would never understand that because you don’t have much artistic insight.
I think I will stay out of this one.
@Steve Gilmore I've got the first minutemen 45. I understand the timeline. I don't enjoy it and I only collect records I enjoy or have boobies. If you wanna collect "important records" then you do you. Personal insults are pretty petty from a grown man or a clown. 🤡
i appreciate the rigorous approach to the new music. it is a bit of a pity you didn’t discover this Best Album Of All Time in the 80s as i did however. my friend your entire musical life has been a ripoff if you are only now hearing this. god bless you but please catch up for the love of god. the minutemen are the best of the best. time to study, there will be an exam.
What is the Best Album Of All Time?
I saw the Minutemen live more than once.
I like a lot of the songs that you are calling throwaways. That's your opinion. I like how the whole album falls together. I even like the Van Halen and Steely Dan homage. Sadly, the version of "Little Man With A Gun In His Hand" is weaker than the one on Buzz Or Howl... which rocks like a sunovabitch. "History Lesson, Pt. 2" is a tear-jerker in this reporter's opinion. If you hear this album, only the vinyl version has the correct presentation, plus lock grooves(on sides 3 & 4)!
I forgot to mention the locked grooves.
So wait...in doing the "deep dive" you did not listen to the complete album? So this was a shallow dive. But then you proceed to review all four sides? Hmmm. This album is a statement sound. Could it have been one disc? Yes. At least you mentioned the poignant and beautiful "History Lesson - Part II".
I have an original pressing also and I hardly ever play this album. It’s been compared to Arcade Zen by Husker Du but I think Arcade is a much better album.
no
Zen Arcade has a better cover.
As you know I do really like this album but it’s not a top 25 for me. A couple of their other albums I like better like What Makes A Man Start Fire and The Politics of Time. I also have the book your talking about, great book. This would have been an incredible 1 lp album, but I say that about every 2 record set. I think this is the first time I have seen you sit down. It was like story time
I’ve had people comment that I should sit down. I fidget too much.
O.k after this i will be done. Dont look now is great even as a live recording. Its a CCR COVER MAN! Just in that live context for this band to cover it makes it cool. Stop it
Just because it is a CCR cover doesn’t make it cool for me.
You are being too hard on this album, and too hard on yourself. Taking notes makes listening to music into homework. Just enjoy.
Don't use shower... don't use shower.
If I didn’t take notes I wouldn’t know what to say about the songs. Shower is better than bath.
Good, but prefer What Makes Men Start Fires.
I haven’t heard that one.
Better. Shorter lp. Suits their style.
Toadies.
I use the word "genius" in two ways. In frivolity for something I think is cool. Or, in its literal definition. The Minutemen are overrated and you just dissected their most famous record. Nice shirt by the way!
I agree. Cool shirt.
Sexy video Richard !! You make an old gay swoon, loved the video darling ,much love.
Nah
@@vinylrichie007 you continue to inspire me Rich, you also looked extra handsome in this video, enjoy the week xoxo.your biggest gay fan.✨