DETROIT RECAP & QUESTIONS! | Fouad Abiad, Iain Valliere, Mike Van Wyck, Paul Lauzon | Bro Chat
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- DETROIT RECAP & QUESTIONS! | Fouad Abiad, Iain Valliere, Mike Van Wyck, Paul Lauzon | Bro Chat #162
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Please start chapter-izing the pod
lol you timestamp podcasts that have loads of information, not bro chat that a timestamp will be, “Do you eat ass?”
Milo’s didn’t even say anything about it on the first podcast.. He was more upset about Patrick acting like it was made up..
To be fair it seemed like Dennis was upset after their first podcast that Milo’s didn’t get more angry at Patrick for not acknowledging Milos so then he arranged a round two and had Milo’s all riled up to go at Patrick 😂
Exactly He even talked to Mauro Sassi to clear things up.
Next year Detroit pro needs to have the Ian Vallières 41% award!
The athlete with the most shredded glutes. And The award will be of a bodybuilder doing the moon pose
Nice try Ronnie 😂
Can someone please do a compilation of all Paul's prayers! That would be something to laught from start to finish
I'm a bit torn, but I think Detroit Pro should definitely be in it's own lane for sure. I was thinking mabe add Women's Open & Wellness as well. But it's definitely going to be a special show specifically for the Open guys even if you add a category or two.
perfect time to procrastinate!
One thing most people don’t realise is if someone says something you disagree with or has an opinion different to yours doesn’t mean you then all of a sudden don’t like them anymore.
This is 100% true. Me and the guys disagree all the time and we’re best friends. People online seem to take it to another level.
And that’s why you don’t go to Turkey for a hair transplant 😭
Lol
Paul is such a funny mfer without even trying 😂
27:28 I literally loled
imagine if hoss signed the tren twins , that would be awesome
About the milos Patrick thing
It’s not milos who started it
He actually in first place let it slide
It’s Dennis James who wanted to set the record to give milos his props
You need to rewatch it to get it
I think Denis forced it for the drama to put some clicks on his pod as he tends to do it often with different people. It’s just sad that people fall for it this hard and bash someone over nothing really. And Milos acted very childish and emotional over nothing really in my opinion.
@@moamerordagic2096 Dennis didtn forced anythin. He only wanted to clarfy Milos is right after talking to Mauro Sassi.
If he really wanted some Drama he wouldnt had stop the convo between them in the first run.
Milos wasnt childish at all. He helped Patrick for competition &to build his coaching Business for free!!
And than Patrick cant remember they even had contact?
Come on
@Basse7 💯 correct Sir!
@@justsayin5084 If a grown man is led by his emotions while trying to say something it's childish in my opinion, even if it's true composure shows strength period. Sure he did 20 years ago what's the big deal? U go around finding people u helped in high school and telling them remember when I helped u pass that test and now ur a doctor u should thank me now? That's bs. P tour did a mistake too with his reaction but u guys are making a huge deal out of nothing.
@@moamerordagic2096 yeah,fair point! I think Milos is still disappointed (rightly so) about the "Samson Causa"& more sensible than usual.
On the other hand why Patrick obviously lied in the first Podcast?
He cant remember & Milos must mistake him with someone?!
On the other hand he still,after almost 30 years knows the exact protocol.Maybe bc. he used till today& won't admit it..
If he would have said,ya i remember it would have been No theme anymore. Makes No sense IMO.
Maybe Patrick is Samson's new coach so these is such a big drama even on this Podcast.
W'll see..
The reason why Patrick got so much criticism was because he basically acted like he didn't even know who Milos was publicly, but in private he was thanking him for his help. I think Mike needs to watch the original video
Milos didn’t even press the issue Mike. It was really Dennis that pulled it out of Milos.
Patrick is legit
@@jorgemadrigal911not really he could have said yes milos guided me but Patrick completely denied that he even talk to milos about anything...when these dudes become gurus there egos get too big and they dont want qorld to know they had a guru too
Lol I could care less. But it was obvious Patrick was lying and trying to deny milos helping him... I think it's prob an ego thing and bc he's "a guru"... which is he is acting that way, but it was a bit odd..
They really were speaking on something they didn’t really watch it seems. Definitely a Patrick bias
Mike is missing the personal aspect with Milos and Patrick, he probably felt emotionally betrayed by a friend, not hung up on props he should be given, a friend is lying about a favour he felt, which sucks and would hurt anyone not autistic.
A favor isn’t coaching. Patrick stated he didn’t even use the advice. I’m with Mike, Milos along with Dennis poking the fire, feels like he needs to be center of attention. Just like the Samson thing, he sure didn’t mind getting all the praise when Samson was third in the world. He was on every podcast shouting at the top of the mountain about Samson having the ability to win. Then when they split it was all the sudden “ he didn’t follow the plan and wasn’t doing cardio and won’t eat fish”. Well if Milos knew all that then technically you aren’t coaching him either. 😅
@@datnip79 My comment isn't even about who's right or wrong, im just saying that Milos' reaction is that of a hurt friend and not narcissist.
@@cuminyermum awww, the poor baby doesn’t like to read constructive criticism online. It’s called Social Media. People watch pods and then give their opinions.
I think what Mike is saying is that why does it matter that much? So much so that y’all had a podcast about it and argued like children? It was 20yrs ago. Milos has gotten plenty of credit and is on every podcast talking about his passion of the sport, which he no doubt has in spades. They obviously disagree on the degree on how much help was provided or received. So that’s one disagreement that was 20yrs ago. Let’s just look at it like a scoreboard. Milos has 200 points was it worth the podcast and all the negative comments for his score to be 201? I’m not saying who is right or wrong either. Just stating how I see it and whom I agree with. That’s all….
Big bit missed on the Milos bit Patrick pretended he had no idea who Milos was on a previous podcast but and on a more recent podcast (just before the one you seen)Milos said how can he not know who i was when i sent him information to help him with his show thats whats happened. Patrick is 100% in the wrong agree they are both right (aabout what coaching is) but Patrick brought that on himself
First time I've disagreed with Mike, definitely wasn't Milos pushing the subject. Doesn't it seem very fearful and odd that Patrick choose to split hairs and battle on this vs just giving credit and moving on. At the end of the day Milos shared his protocol, and helped Patrick. It would be interesting if Patrick is running some of those insulin protocols today, if so, he should be grateful. Love the podcast guys, keep it up!
I think Patrick expressed his gratitude I don’t see what he did wrong to be honest.
@@FouadAbiad You are right, apparently he did show thanks multiple times to Milos, so I was wrong on that. I just think if Patrick let's it go and doesn't argue it then nobody talks about it and we all move on. Letting something so small be a point of contention is what sticks out to me. Anyways, appreciate you Fouad!
@@FouadAbiadI think only thing he did wrong was that on the first podcast if you see it he says Milos never helped him at all. I agree on the second podcast that Dennis pulled them together on they’re both right and it’s a definition of coaching difference. That being said I’m sure if you’re casually mentioning coaching someone from your past and he was like “you never helped me at all what are you talking about” it’s kinda frustrating is all on a personal level. Personally I’d be flabbergasted lol. I appreciate you taking a middle ground tho and not divulging into all the bs hate
Mikes reasoning to keep the show date where it’s at is spot on if you ask me - make it a destination event - after these guys that’s skipped it this year saw what it was they will mark it in ink on their calendar next year
I have clients that are planning to travel to this in 2025.
@@anthonybarreto6733but wouldn’t they still come if it was say 2 weeks before NY? I feel like you get the best of both worlds
Originally, Milos let the difference in opinion slide when Patrick first went on three weeks ago. Then, Dennis James encouraged him to speak up and defend his position during the following show and that’s what really lit the drama.
How did bodybuilders work with coaches in the past? They didn’t have the tech we have now so it’s not like Patrick could have easily sent Milos twice a day. I feel like coaching back then was very different from coaching today.
Sending an e-mail vs..sending a.fax.
Protocol is protocol which means getting coached.
Patrick was lying IMO.
They should watch the following episode themselves because Fouad didn't explain it the best 😂
@@jacpope4364 ,💯 idk i think Fouad knows exactly whats the point but since the Samson/Milos argument Likes to throw shit-& talk bad about Milos
Exactly, but mike/Iian just jumped on Milos. Multiple people confirmed the long fax from Milos details his anabolic, insulin, diuretic protocols along with its appropriate diet layout. Patrick tried to downplay everything and at the end said I never used any of the information that Milos passed. Yet he's thanked him multiple times for what?
Why does Patrick ask for information he'll never use and then go on to thank him for that information that was never useful to him. Either Patrick is straight up lying or there's something he's holding back. He's the one that looks suspicious by making contradictory points and not being truly transparent.
Funny how Mike shit on Milos without knowing the whole story......just like how he said the comments are divisive and pick sides without knowing the whole story yet he did the exact same thing.
@@CLOUDKID11 truuueee,couldnt have said it any better.
Gesture& facial expressions from Patrick says it all.
He knows he wouldnt be the Coach he is today without Milos & i am sure he uses Milos informations even nowadays (as so many other "Gurus")
& that was so uncomfortable for him to admit. Thats why he bitched around (although knowing every! liitle detail from peak week f.e.) 🤦♂️
Why does Mike think Milos was calling him out because Milos wanted to credit himself. Patrick was blatantly lying and anyone would be upset in that situation.
Patrick wasn’t lying my guy
Lol tf he wasn't, anyone with a brain could see, that Patrick was lying and trying to deny that Milo's helped him... I could careless, but come on.. it was pretty obvious
@@willthomas7666 Milo’s barley helped him my guy
@@willthomas7666 nah it’s over blown. Milos doesn’t need everyone to know who he helps. Bro wants attention
who cares
The OG’s are back ! I’m glad the band is back together again ❤
Iain looking like a catholic monk from the dark ages with that trim😂
If you watch the first time Oatricj was in their podcast he acted like Milos had never even talked to him or sent him anything ever - I believe it was that complete supposed amnesia that upset Milos
paul out here praying for his colonoscopy…that’s why we love the guy
I think I’ve rewatched the beginning of Paul’s prayer about 50 times and can’t stop crying laughing 😂
"Balls of Steel"😂
Love Paul!
Production company 😂
Im addicted to the podcasts 😂
Paul's prayer , priceless 😅😅😅😅😅😅 all about him & his colonoscopy powerballing I meant power bombing 😅
MIKE VANWIK...Milos is not the kind of person who desperately wants affirmation or people admiring him or wanting prestige....your making all these ideas up... MILOS and PATRICK both are very humble guys....MILOS has always been very low key.... The people creating gossip and negativity are the audience and Dennis James quite a bit....but the comment on Mike VANWIK towards Milos is totally out of line brother... I bet Milos is the kind of person to not bring up negativity on Mike....
This is not personal just no offense and respect to everyone
Seems lately that Mike VANWIK is always the first one jumping for the Hostile crew to the point of fighting in public family events.... Wich is sometimes seems as being a puppet....c'mon Mike your better than that.... Your more elite....ur audience is losing admiration ....I'm your fan keep ur standards high dude
@@ernestorodriguez5628we jump for each other. That’s what real friends do. If someone fucks with Mike then I’m there for him and vice versa.
Not sure how you treat your friends but that’s how we treat ours.
@@FouadAbiad yes your absolutely right that how friends stick up for each other...but another mans duel is with another man...real men don't need other men to deal with their issues... I'm ur fan Fouad I buy your merchandise support your brand I'm not against you nor Mike ..but when your friend does it way to often it becomes hypocritical and a sign of weakness or intimidation....or sucking someone's elses dick kissing so much ass.... I just didn't like his heavy comments on Milos.... throughout the years even you Fouad and Milos have became good friends....I'm glad that you Found where neutral behind this whole misunderstanding.... Thank you for your engagement with me...I appreciate it I'm a nobody in this sport and just a random fan of yours and Mike's...
I listened to both podcast and in the original podcast Patrick didn't even acknowledge that Milos had done anything for him which seemed quite disrespectful after finding out that he had helped him. I don't think Flex Lewis had the back width to hang with Hadi or Derek. And the reason he didn't make it to the open is because he couldn't keep the food down he was having problems with his digestion.
i loved the old school wrestling conversation lol, Guy Cisternino would have been Hornswaggle.
OMG! The prayer and power bottoming😂😂😂😂😂. Iain looked BAKED! LMAOO
Thank you for bringing bodybuilding back to Detroit! I went to the prejudging and night show. Literally amazing. Vito looked great 🔥
I agree with Mike. I think you set a precedent with how great Detroit turned out. The quality is going to bring guys in. Carve your own spot during the year.
I prayed to Leader for Paul to return, and he did! All praise Leader
This early in the morning is awesome. Both cardio sessions gonna be listening to bro chat, that’s a blessing
2:30 Melissa Bumstead looking as hot as ever
I was hoping you would spend some time commentating on the other 4 guys who competed at Detroit. I’m sure they would appreciate the exposure. Anyone that surprised you?
Paul’s throw up in the shower story is crazy! 🤣 😂
Paul's prayer was a brilliant ending. I'm dying of laughter. 🤣
Fouad, as a fan of both milos and patrick... On the first podcast, the topic of Milos and Patrick linking up through a mutual friend came up organically. Milos tried to talk about the one show he coached Patrick for including the peak weak protocols. While Milos was simply bringing something up for nostalgia sake, Patrick got instantly defensive repeatedly saying he must have mistaken him with someone else. Milos didnt even press the issue further. Dennis later on was the one asked Milos why he didn't clarify the situation further. The thing is, Even if Patrick had a different definition for what coaching is... he sort of exposed himself when he said on the next podcast that Milos indeed did give him a bunch of information but he never used it. On the first podcast Patrick didnt say what he did on the second.. he made repeated efforts to make it look like Milos was confused with someone else. Thats why people are all over him and rightfully so, especially when Milos was being so respectful. His second appearance on the podcast was definitely damage control. Otherwise he had no reason to come back on. Patricks whole approach seemed to stem from the insecurity that people would discredit his achievements as a coach because he got some help from Milos 20 years ago? Fans arent stupid. Saw right through it thats all
I think fans are making assumptions about a person and a situation they have no real knowledge of.
That was ultimately my point. If you don’t know, why assume one guy is a horrible person and a liar.
When i graduate from undergrad, RBP is going to be responsible for getting me through college. You guys are awesome!!
They got me through masters, so you'd be fine😂❤
Same here, currently finishing up my first year!
Same bro
That makes no sense
So true
Its not that it was Trivial of Milos to be hung up on it. He even let it go intially until Dennis dug deeper into it. He brought it up as a fond memory in his perspective, not to boast. And it was more so that it the first interaction of Patrick made it appear like Milos was making stuff up or losing his mind to old age lol. I agree patrick really just interpreted his advisement wasnt concrete coaching
I refuse to believe Fouad is being serious when he says Semi-Pro is even in the top 10 of Will Ferrell movies. Of all the things said in the history of the podcast, this might be what I disagree with most.
1000% serious. Love that movie
Quoting Mike Tyson: "Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."
Nowadays with social media, everybody is picking sides and throwing sh*t at each other not realizing that on the other side of the table there's good people with jobs, families, business, etc.
Now it's the Milos/Patrick situation, but how many times we had this situation? Tonio/Rafa not long ago, and the list goes on.
People need to chill the f*ck out on the internet.
Edit: also I agree with Mike, nowadays everybody is trying to divide everything into black or white; people is uncapable of finding any middle ground whatsoever. Not just in BB but life in general, I feel like in todays world (specially younger folks) we are not capable of having any discussions, if you pick a different side from mine I'm gonna rip you appart.
Paul is like the cool father figure for these three boys 😂
That prayer at the end from Paul had me in tears, honestly him and Mike together makes my fucking day, because Mike cracks up at everything Paul says and so do I..... absolute class lads.
God damn, Paul’s prayer had me crying 😂
Balls of Steel is ABSOLUTELY AMAZING
Pleaso no women's classes. Hardcore/Oldschool men's Bodybuilding only - my 2cents.
What happened to the new podcast? Been a while.
Milos never asked for any praise, maybe Mike should listen to that podcast. He just simply told a story and Patrick got all awkward.
Please keep the show small if you at all can. Adding bikini is so bloody boring. And by boring I mean BOR...........ING. the minute you add all these other categories it just gets too long. If anything bring womens bodybuilding back.
Best ending prayer ever you can't even make this shit up,I was dying PAUL FTW🤣🤣🤣
YOOOO. YOU CANT EAT ALOT OF SARDINES ...you can get mercury poising. Joe Rogan literally did this and the Dr told him it was from all the sardines he ate 😂
OG crew are back. Will keep me entertained durnig this busy morning. Thanks fellas!
Keep just classic and body building.
Keep the same weekend. Include IFBB Fitness and I’ll do it 😁💪🏼❤️🦈
I loved the throwing of shirts. I wore mine yesterday! people love free stuff and it made people literally get out of their seats. haha THANKS GUYS. great show.
What happened with Arnold, Cbum and Jay Cutler at the show? I was very disappointed Cbum didn’t compete in the open lol
They cancelled last minute. They promised for next year tho!
To be clear everyone should watch the full podcast of Milo’s. Milos NEVER asked anyone to advertise him. He simply brought up him working with Patrick conversationally and then the difference in perspective became apparent
“I had to take a shower because I was sweating” 😂😂
I think Milo and Patrick are both great guys. I don’t know them ofc but it really just seems like a misunderstanding or miscommunication. I’m sure they’ll work it out.
This.
@Fouad Aboard, please don't ever say again that the Detroit Pro is not a big show, it is a Big fucking Show!! It's a n Olympia qualifier and the 1st prize was 25 000, that's a big fucking Show!!! Congrats on you and your team for the amazing job, y'all outdid y'allselves. The show was great, hats off and flowers to you Fouad, please do it again next year.
You guys are leaving out the context from the original podcast. Patrick and Milos got into the argument on the first podcast where Patrick made him look stupid. Milos was not looking for credit for anyone simply saving face.
I wasn’t really interested in who’s right. More so why people can’t except that both could be telling what they think is the truth. Instead they’d rather pick a side and attack the other person
What’s your guys opinion on Tyler saying they can’t do black back drops unless fans can make up the money for the sponsors at the Olympia. Seems to me they’re not worried about making the show any better for the people that pay to watch, they could just put the sponsors on a screen that rotates through but 🤷🏼♂️
I think he’s 100% right. When you’re giving away $500,000 just to first place and probably millions in prize money, those sponsor dollars are everything.
The luxury of having a smaller show with one or two classes in a small theatre is we can afford to do it the way we want.
Both things can be true at once.
@@FouadAbiadvery valid points, hopefully they find a way to please their sponsors and put a black back drop soon, it really took the live stream and videos/pictures to another level, can only imagine the difference in person
YES!...!The 'A' Team back together 🙏😎
Partner up with someone like Sarah Villegas or Cydney Gyllion. They could fund the women's portion of the show, providing good prize money for Pro Women's Figure/Physique. And that way you'll be growing in no time, just a few years before Detroit is bigger than NY Pro
U should have Milo's on to explain. He's not saying he's responsible for Patrick's success or anything. He literally mentioned it in a convo and patrick straight denied all of it . Then came on to apologize for dismissing all of what Milo's said.
Milo's gets shit on by alot of ppl
Life is about respect.
It's more patrick was embarrassed to say milos coached him incase ppl think pat got his info originally from Milo's.
i’m getting written up for laughing so damn hard at Paul’s hiccup story😂 it was worth it my boss didn’t find it to be as funny I guesss
Detroit with the photos, lighting, backdrop, everything was one of it not the most, well produced show and really sets the standard that these bigger shows with more money should be doing
Olympia will never do it. I could really see Arnold doing it .
I agree. The way they spoke about Patrick in the comments was just wild. Very disrespectful.
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I think that was the best Paul Prayer to date😂😂😂
Absolutely 😂😂😂😂
Seeing a lot of drama online about “Sam Sulek expo scam” hopefully Fouad will address it in this pod.
Why do you believe that?
@@Disneymagic24 I'm not saying I do believe that, that's why I wanted to see if Fouad would address it.
What does this even mean? Haha
What would you like to know? Where is the scam?
It’s manufactured drama, about charging to meet Sam I think. Some people are just entitled
Best lighting and backdrop in like over a decade or more.
Jr USA's is at the end of May so would be perfect for the npc competitors
Hey 👋🏽 guys! In response to Fouads question regarding female competitors “peak age range”. It seems like for the more muscular divisions it’s very similar to the males. Andrea Shaw: 40+, Cydney Gillian: 30+, Jessica Reyes Padilla (#2 in figure): 42(?), Fran Mattos: 38!
Iain the color of the wall matches your eyes well... don't worry 41%
Yeah. Mike def didn’t know what he was talking ab on the Milo’s subject.
Best Bodybuilding Podcast 🏆
“It’s happened before” 😂😂
Talledaga Nights and Anchorman. It ain't even close!
Yeah I was surprised Talladega Nights wasn't on the list
beef stu lookin crazy
Ian learning about boner honey is absolutely hilarious 😂
It’s your platform 100% fouad do what you want but when you “set the record straight” you’re still indirectly giving those guys some attention on the pod, should keep that moving and let their comments on “boycotting” go under the rug
I agree but sometimes these rumours need to be addressed. People start to believe these dumb things if they aren’t corrected.
Perfect timing 👌🏼
Let people decide what classes they want to see, it would be cool to have a survey or something like that next year for the people that are actually buying the tickets, to know what they want to see, and make the come back.
Mike, before saying what you think and disrespecting Mr Milos that you dident even achive 1% of what he did in bodybuilding and fitness, please make sure to watch the podcast before making stupid comments, milos never bragged about it. Also, mauro sassi beat patrick in a show and patrick The lier kindly asked mauro who coached you asked and mauro sassi told him milos, so patrick procceded with asking him can you introduce me to him for coaching? So he checked his diet he provided him with protocols and was guiding him till the last week of the show not how patryick is lying and saying thats not true. Show some respect to one of the legends in the sport. Mike you try to brag with them stupid training videos.. how can we take advice from you on training when you never been on the pro level? Please stop disrespecting one of the legends like milos. The man is very loyal to all bodybuilders and his knowladge in muscle building and nutrition is on another level.
Paul’s prayers are just comedy shows at this point😂
We need to do a compilation of those lmao
Detroit Pro brought to you by Hosstiles Balls of Steel 💪
Pastor Paul….you are the f’ing best brother!!!! 😂
Iain's hairline is wild lol great episode boys, appreciate it!
Thank you Fouad omg it’s a no brainer both Milo’s and Patrick were correct, just diff of understanding what the def of “coach” is. It sounded like Milo’s setup Patrick for success in his coaching career so I think Patrick shoulda expressed more of that but that’s it.
P.S. - I had 2 VIP Tickets to Detroit Pro. Great job Fouad!! I couldn’t stick around for all of it and was bummed I didn’t find you and shake your hand but I’ll ensure I do so next year! Lol I trained at that community center gym from like 12-2 haha. Best - Marine Mike 🇺🇸 💪
😂😂😂😂The Boys are back. Uncle Paul your prayers are amazing. 😂😂😂😂 Thank you Gentlemen.
I really want the shitty iphone quality Iain back 😂
😂 me too
I’ve asked this on several threads and nobody has had an answer yet. Everyone talks about Milos track record but who’s on it? I know in the 90s when he was also competing he helped Dennis James and Dennis Wolf but those were prob more of a collaborative effort due to the time period, there just wasn’t a lot of coaches then. In modern times who has Milos coached that has come in peeled and nailed it? Regan missed for years and there is a rumor they spilt. Behrooz looks good but all Middle East dudes are shredded. The narrative the whole time with Samson was “ if he could just get peeled”. Where are the National level dudes that are getting pro cards? Don’t coaches usually post pics of there clients? All I see if Milos being a great historian. Can he put on size with dudes with the insulin? Of course. But who has he coached in modern times that has nailed it? Milos answered me on one of the comments and said he has coached 30 Olympians but didn’t give one name. 🤷🏼♂️
martinfitzwater its obvious new sign for hostile
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This one group here def Tier 1 😂
New York show quality lighting !!! Great job !!