They tried to frame it like the Wyatt’s took out Chad, but I know Tozowa used his repressed ninja skillz to assassinate his former master. You can’t fool me.
The Wyatt 6 was always going to happen as they had trademarked the name sometime before or after his return. It’s a continuation of what Bray was going to do
Bray Wyatt was there in the building tonight. For a brief moment, he was back with us. Also rip Chad gable I guess. But he was awful to the alpha academy. So he had it coming.
They didn't take out the camera man because they wanted what they done to be seen. Nikki pointed the camera to go to the back. Not too much nonsense in that
Something that genuinely annoyed me from Tempest wasn’t even anything about the Wyatt 6, it was calling Jey Uso a “bad wrestler.” It’s such an empty headed statement not only because he really knows nothing about Jey’s position as he isn’t actually in the business but also because he’s straight up wrong. Jey is clearly one of the most popular wrestlers right now and he’s had insanely good matches in a tag team or as a singles wrestler in his almost 15 year career on the main roster. Such an egotistical and arrogant thing to say that really annoyed me.
@@owendalton3958 No he's not! You didn't believe that. It maybe you do and you just don't think WE are allowed to have an opinion on his opinion?? Otherwise, why are you telling us something we already know?
With Vince not around, I have the feeling they can make it right. It's ok to do some "occult" stuff, but this time they should not go all they way through it like they did with Bray, especially when it comes to the ring. Make it more of a cultish thing, keep the magic stuff on the low, make it more about a bunch of lost souls following a leader, acting in the darkness. Make it "feel" like there's something unnatural going on but don't flat out show it. Make it plausible at all time that these guys just act in the shadows and have people on the inside helping them, backstage crew, cameramen, production crew. And when it comes to the ring, make it about the numbers game. Don't have people "hypnotized" other people, don't have magical dolls. Just have the guy on the outside hit somebody with the mallet to help whoever is wrestling, or people spitting mist and that kind of stuff. Spooky, creepy, not magical. Like the original Wyatt Family was.
Keep magic out all together, just be a creepy cult. Reality is already strange enough - and wwe gets away with over exaggerating that. So there is plenty of stuff to do with them being a creepy cult that doesn’t do magic
First off…. Someone at wrestletalk should’ve followed the QR codes. It was an amazing ARG and we DID get to see how he picked them…. Also, Bo had a swagger to him that I have NEVER seen. He definitely had Bray with him Monday. I think this is going to be amazing and I get it’s not for everyone but don’t nitpick. Not yet. We no longer have redacted changing an amazing story into garbage.
I like tempest but having him here was the wrong call i think. Notriously has never liked any of the 'spooky' stuff. Maybe a pete would have been better
@cf87 I will absolutely never complain about more Laurie. He hasn't been in much wrestletalk content lately though. Kinda think he doesn't watch anymore 😕
Yeah, Tempests pessimism kind of ruined it from me, like right off the bat with the first stuff he said. Definitely should've had someone other than him.
Tempest doing his best to try and follow the golden rule of if you have nothing nice to say don't say anything lmao. He's totally holding back calling this out for the garbage it is. Can't believe people are into this stuff
that's why I like Tempest. He doesn't like the spooky stuff and this was over the top. Yeah, a great debut, but it was overkill, literally. They should have laid people out during the show, not knowing who it was and then debuted in the ring at the end with a final beat down, or something. This was cool, but hokey.
This might be hyperbole and recency bias- but I think this was one of the best wrestling segments all year- right next to the Cody and Rock segment where he was covered with blood. I think this segment alone has convinced me that the Wyatt 6 is actually a good idea. The fact that they went backstage and murdered practically everyone; Gunther, Braun, Triple H, Chad Gable, etc. The presentation and usage of blood has made me BELIEVE that this faction will work and I was heavily skeptical of this idea originally as I didn't fully believe in it's members or the potential storyline. But after this? There's so many different directions you can take this in. Chad Gable can now form a new faction with the Creed brothers, using the logic that he got caught out in the open by this new group- Braun or Gunther could be trying to get revenge after getting brutally attacked this week. Now even Money in the Bank is in question due to members being taken out, will they be able to compete?- this could even lead to consequences for Summerslam since they've already targeted Gunther now, who's to say they won't do it again? I'm very disappointed in Tempest's reaction- at the end of the day I understand it's his opinion and he's free to have it but it feels like he's already decided that he hates the idea and stubbornly refuses to change his mind even if all the potential storylines it forms. He's not taking a look at the overall view and realising that this could lead to so many different ideas. This segment makes Raw feel a lot more connected and stuff like that makes the show FEEL a lot more important as nobody is in their own little world. Now, anything can happen next week and for the first time in a while- I actually actively want to tune in next week JUST to watch how the storyline progresses, not just because I'm a wrestling fan.
@@davidstephan5116 According to reports, it's not a supernatural gimmick and will likely be similar to original Wyatt. If you don't want creativity and camp, maybe wrestling isn't for you.
Love how Luke when talking about these characters he calls it spooky nonsense and yet Raven is his favorite wrestler. It doesn't get more spooky nonsense than the Ravens flock. So far I am loving this new group.
The issue with the Wyattverse is that it's extremely hard to book. It's hard to fit into the wrestling card. You can't just slot the fiend into a tag team feud. It's, in a sense, the complete opposite of modern-day Drew McIntyre. Drew is so adaptable he fits anywhere in the roster, and has been able to reinvent his character to be a maineventer on the spot TWICE. For the Wyattverse though, he is his own place in the card, and you need to plan AROUND him and AROUND that. He has his mystique and it demands a LOT of effort to have it deliver. It's why Karrion Kross has been failing for quite some time. He NEEDS to be in the main event role with everyone buying into his mystique, he cant just be another act on the show. Hopefully, Bo can avoid that!
My thoughts are that they will go between raw and smackdown like an entity, they’re whole thing is being a family of ones who were betrayed. They may just cause havoc to anyone who’s betrayed or turned their backs on their teams. Which means they could have a BUNCH of stories lined up.
I second this sentiment. As a theatrical or cinematic act this has the potential to be legendary. In a wrestling context, it’s a bit hard to be spooky/fantasy based when the wrestling world has transitioned out of kayfabe and is much more realistic
I don't think it is that hard tbh. They gotta keep the supernatural stuff to a minimum or only for special moments. This re-debut was good in that it was just a huge beatdown with no spooky nonsense other than the look of it. They were not teleporting around. If they can keep the group scary without being spooky, this could be great.
For Kayfabe - you don’t attack the camera guy because it’s not his fault. He’s not someone in the back “manipulating” the careers of others. He’s just there to film.
Yeah let cook it always the best answer... but really weak and corny start. We're allowed to call thing out if they're not working. Sure I can see some fans really enjoyed it, so have your moment... but I know plenty of other fans found this very silly and corny. It just doesn't mesh with the other stuff goin on. And the other stuffs been so good lately why compromise it.
I see people already have issues with this debut? Just enjoy it I was literally screaming at this with excitement and your more worried about the fact they didn’t “attack the cameraman”?
That's really the only thing I didn't have a problem with. They leave the cameraman to spread the message. That isn't storytelling, that is real life. The rest was over the top, hokey.
Its corny and didn't work for me at all. They just sorta slapped it on the end of an otherwise fantastic Raw. And now all the other stars gonna just ignore it... ug its way too silly for what else is going on... like Bron had this fantastic night, and now hes gotta ignore this massive event that happened. Whos got time to acknowledge the whole production crew got murdered when you got Shamus to call out... its just beyond silly. Thankfully smackdown pretty much ignored it happened. They can save the Wyatt stuff but really weak start if you ask me.
Unfortunately that's pro wrestling, it's extremely cheesy and over the top, but we like to buy in because it's more fun that way, not everyone watches this way
@@whereta3097 "Thats just pro wrestling" is such a cop out. Wrestling isn't above criticism... Things can land or whiff. For a lot of people it didn't work. Having a random Halloween segment slapped on the end of an otherwise great Raw was eye rolling... Wasn't needed, didn't make sense, hasn't really been addressed since.. "Oh Chads dead" was the most common reaction and then hes comes back and ignored it happened. Thats just silly. If you like some silly stuff ok good for you but the rest of us can cringe. The Bo interview that came out later was much better. Actually something to bite into there. Would have made way more sense if that came out first. Some build up coulda have made the attacks much more believable.
The Wyatt Sick6 ⭕Debut was very well cinematically done. No questions. Still if the cameraman shakes the camera then and now a little bit in a fear after seeing his production team. It would be chef kiss. CINEMA❤
WWE knocked it out of the park with this debut! I actually teared up when I saw Bo. What an amazing debut and tribute to one of the most creative minds of WWE ever. I'm looking forward to Hell in A Cell this year!!!
I was worried the months long build up would lead to big hopes and a disappointing reveal and it was more than I could have ever hoped for. I was both scared but also couldn't help but get a little emotional. Man, I miss Bray and he'd be so proud of Bo and the creative team running with this. I can't wait to see where they go with this.
I would agree with Oli, and say that they did debut at 11, so the bar now is set quite high. This can work so long as you obviously don't give them powers, like how Undertaker and Kane shot lightning at each other in like '96 lol. As long as they keep Bo Dallas the Jig Saw of the group, and the rest are his disciples this can work really well.
16:00 to that point Luke: I believe in one of the QR codes, it included messages from Uncle Howdy to the specific people recruiting them. Essentially him saying why he can help save them
Well, Luke’s predicting WM40 video he joked about Rocky with Sami/Chad and he said “I suppose next in the story means Chad has to die”, and I feel like the Wyatt group took that as a challenge
This debut was CHILLING. It gave off a much more unhinged violent vibe than the original Family. I do like how little bullied Ramblin' Rabbit is the biggest one.
The irony of the man with the mask insulting the people wearing the masks. Maybe if he turned up without his mask I would care about his opinion but I'm sure he also likes AEW
The Wyatt's did not come back out through the door (maybe Nikki did?). Either way I felt as though they were symbolically saying that is Bray's door. I thought that was touching. RIP Windham.
That Wyatt Sicks debut was absolutely insane. One thing I'm sure it definitely achieved is people will tune in in droves next week to see what developments take place. I'm excited! Also Bron Breakker rules.
I get it with tempest, I'm not really into the whole spooky thing, i seen enough of that with taker. But it's good to see them keep Bray's spirit alive.
I mean they attacked the rest of the production team, and in the full video on WWE channel you see a jumpscare of Nikki after the lantern is blown out, implying they attacked the cameraman after he's recorded the carnage
I had goosebumps through the whole segment. Such a great angle to honor Bray's legacy. I really hope they do not screw this up! I'm with Luke here: If this becomes a cult like faction, like the original Wyatt Family was, this has big potential to be absolutely awesome!
Honestly watching the debut made me want to cry r.i.p bray wyatt when i heard the noise as the lights shut down it was so sad we would never get another fiend attack
I was VERY worried about this group and how they'd handle it. Obviously it still remains to be seen how this plays out, but, as an introduction this was fantastic.
Nikki pointing to the door is right out of revelations: and he beckoned "come and see". The only way this could have been better is if Bray was still here to lead them.
True to their word in one of the last images was the initials CG. Chad Gable. Next on SD Chelsea Green? Corey Graves? Can’t wait to see how they play this out. I know Bray and Brodie are looking down and smiling.
I like that you pointed out the Slipknot likeness, I was getting serious late 90s Knot vibes from this ending, it reminded me of the 'Spit It Out' video - awesome stuff - I loved everything this debut encompassed, Bray would be proud
Yeah, I second what a lot of people here are saying. It's fine to be sceptical. It's fine to be apprehensive about these kinds of characters in wrestling, especially because the Brayverse was historically hard to book around. And it's fine for this not to be your kind of wrestling. But pro wrestling is eclectic. There is as much a place for the spooky and lore-heavy as there is for high-spot wrestling, technical wrestling, larger than life showcases, big man wrestling, faction drama, etc. Bray was well loved and while his ideas either didn't always work or weren't always able to fit into the larger wrestling booking world, he was absolutely a creative genius. I'll always remember his feud with the shield, his win at elimination chamber, the debut of the Fiend against Balor, his return at Extreme Rules. And this felt like a great presentation of a new character/faction, was well directed, had the crowd chanting, and did a great job honouring the late Windham Rotunda's vision. His brother, Triple H and many on the roster clearly have a lot of respect for him, and I think it's better to approach this debut with an open mind and see how things turn out. I understand Tempest's reluctance, but his immediate refusal to engage with the content and his snide comments felt so incredibly unnecessary. It's fine to be critical, but in future, perhaps only have people on camera for things like this who are remotely interested in the content being shown to them.
Yeah.. all great points. I loved Bray Wyatt and the fiend but this type of character has been proven to just be a fan favorite for the sake of liking that it’s different. But that’s where it stops. I feel like this type of character doesn’t really work well in wrestling for a longer term like other types of characters do. But we’ll see what they can do with it and for how long
That was like one of the best works of Wyatt himself. It was captivating, they looked both cool and scary. Hope WWE got good storylines for them. I was not sure to see any content like that since Wyatt was and is my favorite wrestling person, not just wrestler. And I was not sure that they would really make effort to deliver a good story, it would be betrayal to his memory and abusive use of his name I guess. I felt uncomfortable during the debut, but it was for the good reasons. I was hesitant, now I am hyped.
I got a thing with supernatural characters, but Wyatt was different than the most. He brought cinema to wrestling, his character was not just about aura, his work was continious during all of his career, as Bray Wyatt/Fiend. And storylines provided for him mostly was not good. He made his own name, RIP. For now, the debut of Wyatt Sicks was great.
I'm just glad it's finally happened/happening. I personally thought the RAW after the Bray Documentary aired would have been the time. But the extra time feels like they better have been getting the background, and the first six months to a year planned out for them in terms of matches. I'm assuming they will interfere with the MITB ladder match to set up a load of matches for Summer Slam and go from there. As it seems the first few weeks are going to be talking segments to help establish the goals, set up the feuds, pay tribute to Bray and get that over with. Then the receipts for the introduction begin to get paid back. Otherwise I hope the Intercontinental Championship does end up on Sheamus. Sami taking a Brogue and a Spear, while Sheamus sets up another Brogue for Bron to 'steal' the victory of a triple threat is a fine ending. But it's possible it gets traded before settling in on Bron.
Bray got me back into wrestling after a 10-year absence, and while nothing will get me back to wwe (it's not tribalism, it's just after 40 years my relationship with wwe is too toxic) I really hope this works out and they can honor the memory of a man who was something new in an industry that is pretty stagnant at times
The way certain pro wrestling fans want there pro wrestling to be as realistic as possible while believing the Young Bucks could actually win a real fight at the same time is hilarious. Just because it doesn't flip about, tell no story, and get 5 stars from some old man called dave doesn't mean it isn't good.
I love how the 6th member is Windham. "There's always a seat for you at the table brother." Also, I'd like to be the one that's defending Tempest because. I agree with him, we have to see what happens as the story develops because these creative ideas were never able to sustain themselves because there'd always have to be a match at some point.
I'm surprised no one else seems to have said this, I really like the idea of Bray Wyatt himself being the sixth member. The term 'Wyatt 6' was in circulation when he was still alive, after all. If he was still with us, the six could have easily just been these five and Bray. As for Tempest, he is right. Right to show concern about what they are going to do next and how it's going to end up in a match, but he just goes straight into it without giving it a chance. It's all over his tone and body language, he's already made up his mind before anything's even happened. I think that's why everyone is jumping on him.
Went for a Wyatt Sick6 debut video and got a comment section full of Tempest attitude stinks. Should’ve just reacted with Oli and Luke. Tempest energy is always off.
My hope is they do not fight a match that is SANCTIONED until Summerslam, like the Fiend’s debut in ring was handled. It would he 3v3 tag, Gable n Creeds vs Howdy, Huskus and Mercy
I think it's very possible given Chad's MAGNIFICENT heel run and how that was left with the AA disbanding that he stays written off for a while - however, I can't believe that with Braun having just returned a month ago he's going to be gone long-term. His previous connection with the Wyatt family makes me think they might try to recruit him and his story will be fighting this internal battle to break free of Howdy's control (think Damien Priest's angel/demon era but, hopefully, not awful). As far as opponents, I would have put Seth and Braun as the most obvious choices but you could always give it to Otis, Maxxine and Tozawa since they've come to what could be the end of the AA storyline and they already have some connection to the Wyatt Sics through Chad.
I hope they can find a way to integrate the fiend as an entity in this group's dynamic. For example, depending on who they feud with, Uncle Howdy leads people to "join" their group as a "vessel" for the Fiend. That would make the Fiend fresh, it could keep changing throughout storylines, and in terms of in-ring wrestling we could see extremely different styles of interpreting the Fiend's intensity (meaty men slapping meat, high flying crazy Fiend, technical intense wrestle, etc). Uncle Howdy could use the Fiend's mask as a bargaining chip and a quick "path to power". Sorry for the fantasy booking lmao
I really love the way the group looked! I wonder if they will have Uncle Howdy be more of a manager like character and let the other wrestle for him? Since Bo has been out of ring action for awhile, but I'm excited to see what they do and where they go!
One thing I never really put together until now is the Uncle Howdy COULD do his own firefly funhouse segment at some point as Bo Dallas. That character and the BO-Lieve stuff was very similar to that all smiles bray Wyatt funhouse persona
They tried to frame it like the Wyatt’s took out Chad, but I know Tozowa used his repressed ninja skillz to assassinate his former master. You can’t fool me.
Uncle Howdy looking at Gable:
“Well I didn’t do THAT one”
You must didn't see the message in the last qr code a week or so ago
@@DrezzyEFTPbruh it’s called a joke
😂😂
@@DrezzyEFTPyou can’t be for real rn. It was a joke
Tempest and Sidgwick From whatculture should just get a freaking room So we don't have to hear the buzz killing..
I'd like to think that this was how Triple H had envisioned for Wyatt to return, before his unfortunate passing.
Yea this was apparently always the plan for bray :(
Bullshit.
The Wyatt 6 was always going to happen as they had trademarked the name sometime before or after his return. It’s a continuation of what Bray was going to do
Bray Wyatt returned during the Triple H era though and it was great?
Bray would be so proud of this moment. It was a long time coming and to me, it stuck the landing 🔥
It friggin stomped the landing. It was the perfect way to bring them in
@@herpderpington6309 I agree, I was worried beforehand but that went away!
It was kind of cringe and kind of cool. It's going to get old quick if they don't do it right. First feud they need is with Final Testament.
Bray is spinning in his grave at how corny this is
@@thebigragu9952 uh ok
Uncle Howdy had instant aura with that debut
Not really
+1000000 aura
You’re joking right? He looks so silly.
@@et123ization hey sorry man, this isn’t the kind of pro wrestling I enjoy
@@thebigragu9952 if you think that looked silly, you just need to accept you've grown past wrestling as a whole.
So that's the reason why Drew McIntyre was in such a hurry to quit the company. He knew the Wyatt 6 were coming.
He feared for his life 😂😂😂
He saw a storm coming and it wasn't Jade Cargill. He needed to get out FAST
Since Drew is eternally online, he probably was up-to-date with all the qr code info and decided to dip at the right time.
@@Crxw2Tiredwas that’s funny??
@@ville4090is that a tony khan reference 😂
Bray Wyatt was there in the building tonight. For a brief moment, he was back with us. Also rip Chad gable I guess. But he was awful to the alpha academy. So he had it coming.
Otis WyattSicks confirmed.
They didn't take out the camera man because they wanted what they done to be seen. Nikki pointed the camera to go to the back. Not too much nonsense in that
Then Nikki jumpscare attacks after the lantern is blown out, kept alive long enough to record the evidence, then taken out
Something that genuinely annoyed me from Tempest wasn’t even anything about the Wyatt 6, it was calling Jey Uso a “bad wrestler.” It’s such an empty headed statement not only because he really knows nothing about Jey’s position as he isn’t actually in the business but also because he’s straight up wrong. Jey is clearly one of the most popular wrestlers right now and he’s had insanely good matches in a tag team or as a singles wrestler in his almost 15 year career on the main roster. Such an egotistical and arrogant thing to say that really annoyed me.
The only real bad singles match I could say that involved Jey is that WM mirror match, Jimmy vs Jey. That match really needed a stipulation.
He’s allowed to have his opinion.
@@owendalton3958 No he's not! You didn't believe that. It maybe you do and you just don't think WE are allowed to have an opinion on his opinion?? Otherwise, why are you telling us something we already know?
With Vince not around, I have the feeling they can make it right. It's ok to do some "occult" stuff, but this time they should not go all they way through it like they did with Bray, especially when it comes to the ring. Make it more of a cultish thing, keep the magic stuff on the low, make it more about a bunch of lost souls following a leader, acting in the darkness. Make it "feel" like there's something unnatural going on but don't flat out show it. Make it plausible at all time that these guys just act in the shadows and have people on the inside helping them, backstage crew, cameramen, production crew.
And when it comes to the ring, make it about the numbers game. Don't have people "hypnotized" other people, don't have magical dolls. Just have the guy on the outside hit somebody with the mallet to help whoever is wrestling, or people spitting mist and that kind of stuff. Spooky, creepy, not magical. Like the original Wyatt Family was.
Keep magic out all together, just be a creepy cult. Reality is already strange enough - and wwe gets away with over exaggerating that. So there is plenty of stuff to do with them being a creepy cult that doesn’t do magic
First off…. Someone at wrestletalk should’ve followed the QR codes. It was an amazing ARG and we DID get to see how he picked them…. Also, Bo had a swagger to him that I have NEVER seen. He definitely had Bray with him Monday. I think this is going to be amazing and I get it’s not for everyone but don’t nitpick. Not yet. We no longer have redacted changing an amazing story into garbage.
I like tempest but having him here was the wrong call i think. Notriously has never liked any of the 'spooky' stuff. Maybe a pete would have been better
@cf87 I will absolutely never complain about more Laurie. He hasn't been in much wrestletalk content lately though. Kinda think he doesn't watch anymore 😕
Yeah, Tempests pessimism kind of ruined it from me, like right off the bat with the first stuff he said. Definitely should've had someone other than him.
Tempest doing his best to try and follow the golden rule of if you have nothing nice to say don't say anything lmao. He's totally holding back calling this out for the garbage it is. Can't believe people are into this stuff
@hazard_us132 I wanna be cool and different like you what a visionary 😍
that's why I like Tempest. He doesn't like the spooky stuff and this was over the top. Yeah, a great debut, but it was overkill, literally. They should have laid people out during the show, not knowing who it was and then debuted in the ring at the end with a final beat down, or something. This was cool, but hokey.
They didn’t attack the camera man for the same reason pirates would leave one survivor to tell the tale
Until Nikki's jumpscare attack afterward
I felt like tempest was too rude. I understand his points but it felt like he was criticizing the artists rather than the art
Imma trust Bo, he was Uncle Howdy for alittle bit of Bray’s run and when he was in the ring he seemed agile. Imma trust it.
Fingers Crossed! 🤞
all you gotta do is BO-LIEVE
Wasn’t he Miz’s lackey two years ago? Yeaaaaahhhh
Don’t do a reaction with The guy in the middle again! Brutal
Thanks for letting me feel like I'm not the only one. He's dismissing everything. Not a wrestling fan
Thank you for your comments it has to be said. So much negativity. A real buzz killer. Must be fun watching wrestling with him.
They didn’t attack the camera man because you never kill the messenger
It was actually Otis who killed Gable. Lucky for him Wyatt 6 was there to take the blame
The perfect cover. 😂
This might be hyperbole and recency bias- but I think this was one of the best wrestling segments all year- right next to the Cody and Rock segment where he was covered with blood. I think this segment alone has convinced me that the Wyatt 6 is actually a good idea. The fact that they went backstage and murdered practically everyone; Gunther, Braun, Triple H, Chad Gable, etc.
The presentation and usage of blood has made me BELIEVE that this faction will work and I was heavily skeptical of this idea originally as I didn't fully believe in it's members or the potential storyline. But after this? There's so many different directions you can take this in. Chad Gable can now form a new faction with the Creed brothers, using the logic that he got caught out in the open by this new group- Braun or Gunther could be trying to get revenge after getting brutally attacked this week. Now even Money in the Bank is in question due to members being taken out, will they be able to compete?- this could even lead to consequences for Summerslam since they've already targeted Gunther now, who's to say they won't do it again?
I'm very disappointed in Tempest's reaction- at the end of the day I understand it's his opinion and he's free to have it but it feels like he's already decided that he hates the idea and stubbornly refuses to change his mind even if all the potential storylines it forms. He's not taking a look at the overall view and realising that this could lead to so many different ideas.
This segment makes Raw feel a lot more connected and stuff like that makes the show FEEL a lot more important as nobody is in their own little world. Now, anything can happen next week and for the first time in a while- I actually actively want to tune in next week JUST to watch how the storyline progresses, not just because I'm a wrestling fan.
The Wyatt Sick6 debut might actually be one of the greatest debuts of all time, the wait was absolutely worth it. Excited to see what comes next.
Agree!
If you want BS ghost story stuff, watch Scooby Doo
@@davidstephan5116 According to reports, it's not a supernatural gimmick and will likely be similar to original Wyatt. If you don't want creativity and camp, maybe wrestling isn't for you.
Yes❤
@@Greatter1 it’s a weekly sitcom now mixed in with lame suspense. How much wrestling actually occurs on Raw in a weekly basis? 35 minutes? Maybe 40?
wish i could’ve seen Dan’s reaction to this
can we get Dan’s reaction to this please
dan stayed up to watch it live so they wouldnt be able to get his
I imagine he moaned about it or pretended like it was an Oscar winning, Tony award level writing moment.
Love how Luke when talking about these characters he calls it spooky nonsense and yet Raven is his favorite wrestler. It doesn't get more spooky nonsense than the Ravens flock. So far I am loving this new group.
The issue with the Wyattverse is that it's extremely hard to book. It's hard to fit into the wrestling card. You can't just slot the fiend into a tag team feud. It's, in a sense, the complete opposite of modern-day Drew McIntyre. Drew is so adaptable he fits anywhere in the roster, and has been able to reinvent his character to be a maineventer on the spot TWICE.
For the Wyattverse though, he is his own place in the card, and you need to plan AROUND him and AROUND that. He has his mystique and it demands a LOT of effort to have it deliver. It's why Karrion Kross has been failing for quite some time. He NEEDS to be in the main event role with everyone buying into his mystique, he cant just be another act on the show.
Hopefully, Bo can avoid that!
My thoughts are that they will go between raw and smackdown like an entity, they’re whole thing is being a family of ones who were betrayed. They may just cause havoc to anyone who’s betrayed or turned their backs on their teams. Which means they could have a BUNCH of stories lined up.
I second this sentiment. As a theatrical or cinematic act this has the potential to be legendary. In a wrestling context, it’s a bit hard to be spooky/fantasy based when the wrestling world has transitioned out of kayfabe and is much more realistic
We shall see..
Where’s your wrestling company at?
I don't think it is that hard tbh. They gotta keep the supernatural stuff to a minimum or only for special moments. This re-debut was good in that it was just a huge beatdown with no spooky nonsense other than the look of it. They were not teleporting around. If they can keep the group scary without being spooky, this could be great.
For Kayfabe - you don’t attack the camera guy because it’s not his fault. He’s not someone in the back “manipulating” the careers of others. He’s just there to film.
WE’RE HERE
They didn't attack the camera man because the camera man was TOLD to go there.
I think we as fans shouldn’t overthink it and just let it play out. Let Hunter cook.
Yeah let cook it always the best answer... but really weak and corny start. We're allowed to call thing out if they're not working. Sure I can see some fans really enjoyed it, so have your moment... but I know plenty of other fans found this very silly and corny. It just doesn't mesh with the other stuff goin on. And the other stuffs been so good lately why compromise it.
@@ieatstheinternet Most people liked it. It's THIS take that's corny
Dawg really say Jey Uso isn't a good wrestler.... What?... I get it it's getting old but come on
My reaction: YAY FOR MORE REACTIONS
I see people already have issues with this debut? Just enjoy it I was literally screaming at this with excitement and your more worried about the fact they didn’t “attack the cameraman”?
That's really the only thing I didn't have a problem with. They leave the cameraman to spread the message. That isn't storytelling, that is real life. The rest was over the top, hokey.
Its corny and didn't work for me at all. They just sorta slapped it on the end of an otherwise fantastic Raw. And now all the other stars gonna just ignore it... ug its way too silly for what else is going on... like Bron had this fantastic night, and now hes gotta ignore this massive event that happened. Whos got time to acknowledge the whole production crew got murdered when you got Shamus to call out... its just beyond silly. Thankfully smackdown pretty much ignored it happened. They can save the Wyatt stuff but really weak start if you ask me.
Y'all take wrestling WAYY TOO SERIOUS
Unfortunately that's pro wrestling, it's extremely cheesy and over the top, but we like to buy in because it's more fun that way, not everyone watches this way
@@whereta3097 "Thats just pro wrestling" is such a cop out. Wrestling isn't above criticism... Things can land or whiff. For a lot of people it didn't work. Having a random Halloween segment slapped on the end of an otherwise great Raw was eye rolling... Wasn't needed, didn't make sense, hasn't really been addressed since.. "Oh Chads dead" was the most common reaction and then hes comes back and ignored it happened. Thats just silly. If you like some silly stuff ok good for you but the rest of us can cringe. The Bo interview that came out later was much better. Actually something to bite into there. Would have made way more sense if that came out first. Some build up coulda have made the attacks much more believable.
If they keep it a little less Exorcist and a little bit more House of a thousand corpses style instead and this will be incredible
The Wyatt Sick6 ⭕Debut was very well cinematically done. No questions. Still if the cameraman shakes the camera then and now a little bit in a fear after seeing his production team. It would be chef kiss. CINEMA❤
Lol wtf
@@WT1wL why you don't like it
I do like it. I just think your critical of something that looked great.
I have a question. Who's the 6th member?
@@DarksideGmss0513 bray
WWE knocked it out of the park with this debut! I actually teared up when I saw Bo. What an amazing debut and tribute to one of the most creative minds of WWE ever. I'm looking forward to Hell in A Cell this year!!!
I’m blown away by the production 😮💨❤️
The best episode of raw this year perfectly topped off with the best debut in wrestling ironically since bray's return at extreme rules in 2022
Nahh the Chicago RAW where the Rock bloodied Cody is still the best raw episode but hey this might be a 2nd best Raw episode this year
@@EngrPalits That was this year??? Wow it's been a crazy year for WWE lmao.
I love how the music slightly changes when they show Uncle Howdy
I was worried the months long build up would lead to big hopes and a disappointing reveal and it was more than I could have ever hoped for.
I was both scared but also couldn't help but get a little emotional. Man, I miss Bray and he'd be so proud of Bo and the creative team running with this.
I can't wait to see where they go with this.
I would agree with Oli, and say that they did debut at 11, so the bar now is set quite high. This can work so long as you obviously don't give them powers, like how Undertaker and Kane shot lightning at each other in like '96 lol. As long as they keep Bo Dallas the Jig Saw of the group, and the rest are his disciples this can work really well.
16:00 to that point Luke: I believe in one of the QR codes, it included messages from Uncle Howdy to the specific people recruiting them. Essentially him saying why he can help save them
Well, Luke’s predicting WM40 video he joked about Rocky with Sami/Chad and he said “I suppose next in the story means Chad has to die”, and I feel like the Wyatt group took that as a challenge
Tempest is always so damn negative 🙄
This team don’t need championships but go undefeated! DQ count outs for every champ match 10/10!!
This debut was CHILLING. It gave off a much more unhinged violent vibe than the original Family. I do like how little bullied Ramblin' Rabbit is the biggest one.
The irony of the man with the mask insulting the people wearing the masks. Maybe if he turned up without his mask I would care about his opinion but I'm sure he also likes AEW
Oh you have no idea
Tempest simps aew more than Dave meltzer
The Wyatt's did not come back out through the door (maybe Nikki did?). Either way I felt as though they were symbolically saying that is Bray's door. I thought that was touching. RIP Windham.
That Wyatt Sicks debut was absolutely insane. One thing I'm sure it definitely achieved is people will tune in in droves next week to see what developments take place. I'm excited!
Also Bron Breakker rules.
I was there when he returned at extreme rules and it was fantastic. I hope they made Bray proud with this
Am I the only one who noticed uncle howdy almost trip over immediately? Lol
I noticed that too but I'm just going to pretend that he was playfully walking over the carnage 😂
I get it with tempest, I'm not really into the whole spooky thing, i seen enough of that with taker. But it's good to see them keep Bray's spirit alive.
I Like How Bo Dallas Also Incorporated The Hurt/Heel Glove On His Right Hand. I Think That Was A Really Cool Thing To Add.
It's even more sentimental because on the glove it says "bray".
Luke being a massive fan of Scene Queen gives me hope that he's listened to Set it Off
The funhouse puppets was littered around the show, most noticable was rambling rabbit in the dressing room above chad gable
Why would they attack the cameramen? They just work for the production team and they got to get their message out
I mean they attacked the rest of the production team, and in the full video on WWE channel you see a jumpscare of Nikki after the lantern is blown out, implying they attacked the cameraman after he's recorded the carnage
@wulfricr7635 lmao so he's bitching for nothing?
This felt like when Meet The Graham dropped…
That spear was absolutely devastating. He murdered Kaiser worse than the Wyat Sicks did Gable!
I had goosebumps through the whole segment. Such a great angle to honor Bray's legacy. I really hope they do not screw this up! I'm with Luke here: If this becomes a cult like faction, like the original Wyatt Family was, this has big potential to be absolutely awesome!
Honestly watching the debut made me want to cry r.i.p bray wyatt when i heard the noise as the lights shut down it was so sad we would never get another fiend attack
I was VERY worried about this group and how they'd handle it. Obviously it still remains to be seen how this plays out, but, as an introduction this was fantastic.
Nikki pointing to the door is right out of revelations: and he beckoned "come and see". The only way this could have been better is if Bray was still here to lead them.
I'm not a WWE guy but this got me chocked up.
I’ve been waiting for y’all reaction!!!!
I think it's the greatest debut of a faction ever
Looking at Bo's smile through the mask as he sees the fireflies is heartwarming.
The 6th member is the spirit of Bray in the lantern.
True to their word in one of the last images was the initials CG. Chad Gable. Next on SD Chelsea Green? Corey Graves? Can’t wait to see how they play this out. I know Bray and Brodie are looking down and smiling.
I like that you pointed out the Slipknot likeness, I was getting serious late 90s Knot vibes from this ending, it reminded me of the 'Spit It Out' video - awesome stuff - I loved everything this debut encompassed, Bray would be proud
Yeah, I second what a lot of people here are saying. It's fine to be sceptical. It's fine to be apprehensive about these kinds of characters in wrestling, especially because the Brayverse was historically hard to book around. And it's fine for this not to be your kind of wrestling. But pro wrestling is eclectic. There is as much a place for the spooky and lore-heavy as there is for high-spot wrestling, technical wrestling, larger than life showcases, big man wrestling, faction drama, etc. Bray was well loved and while his ideas either didn't always work or weren't always able to fit into the larger wrestling booking world, he was absolutely a creative genius. I'll always remember his feud with the shield, his win at elimination chamber, the debut of the Fiend against Balor, his return at Extreme Rules. And this felt like a great presentation of a new character/faction, was well directed, had the crowd chanting, and did a great job honouring the late Windham Rotunda's vision. His brother, Triple H and many on the roster clearly have a lot of respect for him, and I think it's better to approach this debut with an open mind and see how things turn out. I understand Tempest's reluctance, but his immediate refusal to engage with the content and his snide comments felt so incredibly unnecessary. It's fine to be critical, but in future, perhaps only have people on camera for things like this who are remotely interested in the content being shown to them.
“Why didn’t they attack the camera man?” Is one of the most ignorant things I’ve heard in a minute Ollie 😂
Plot twist, Braun wasn’t running out there to fight, he was running from howdy 😂😂
Wyatt Sick6 debut was absolutely incredible! What a great way to honor the legacy of Bray Wyatt. Excited to see what the group does next.
This was one of the most unique things weve seen in quite some time
Yeah.. all great points. I loved Bray Wyatt and the fiend but this type of character has been proven to just be a fan favorite for the sake of liking that it’s different. But that’s where it stops. I feel like this type of character doesn’t really work well in wrestling for a longer term like other types of characters do. But we’ll see what they can do with it and for how long
Just as a correction, that person wasn't Braun it seems as the guy has 2 stripes on his arm, which Braun doesn't
It’s Eric rowen
I loved it. Both the opening part and the ending reminding me of Bray which made me cry. It was so good.
That was like one of the best works of Wyatt himself. It was captivating, they looked both cool and scary. Hope WWE got good storylines for them. I was not sure to see any content like that since Wyatt was and is my favorite wrestling person, not just wrestler. And I was not sure that they would really make effort to deliver a good story, it would be betrayal to his memory and abusive use of his name I guess. I felt uncomfortable during the debut, but it was for the good reasons. I was hesitant, now I am hyped.
I got a thing with supernatural characters, but Wyatt was different than the most. He brought cinema to wrestling, his character was not just about aura, his work was continious during all of his career, as Bray Wyatt/Fiend. And storylines provided for him mostly was not good. He made his own name, RIP. For now, the debut of Wyatt Sicks was great.
I absolutely loved it and I would be lying if I said I didn't have a tear in my eye when it happened
I'm just glad it's finally happened/happening. I personally thought the RAW after the Bray Documentary aired would have been the time. But the extra time feels like they better have been getting the background, and the first six months to a year planned out for them in terms of matches. I'm assuming they will interfere with the MITB ladder match to set up a load of matches for Summer Slam and go from there. As it seems the first few weeks are going to be talking segments to help establish the goals, set up the feuds, pay tribute to Bray and get that over with. Then the receipts for the introduction begin to get paid back.
Otherwise I hope the Intercontinental Championship does end up on Sheamus. Sami taking a Brogue and a Spear, while Sheamus sets up another Brogue for Bron to 'steal' the victory of a triple threat is a fine ending. But it's possible it gets traded before settling in on Bron.
Bray got me back into wrestling after a 10-year absence, and while nothing will get me back to wwe (it's not tribalism, it's just after 40 years my relationship with wwe is too toxic) I really hope this works out and they can honor the memory of a man who was something new in an industry that is pretty stagnant at times
Props to the cameraman. Balls of steel
What a moment. Goosebumps and teary eyes. RIP Bray 🙏
Damn tempest is just full of negativity this episode. Lame.
The way certain pro wrestling fans want there pro wrestling to be as realistic as possible while believing the Young Bucks could actually win a real fight at the same time is hilarious.
Just because it doesn't flip about, tell no story, and get 5 stars from some old man called dave doesn't mean it isn't good.
Know what else isn’t good? Bo Dallas’s in-ring skills. Or Eric Redbeard
Ehhhh this reaction was exactly what I expected.
I know my lad Tempo isn't into it, but i am a massive Lucha Underground fan, so I'm all for those kinds of shenanigans
Man that was awesome Bray Wyatt would be proud of his brother.
That was cinema best ending raw has produced in a long while
THIS WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOO FIRE!! I LOVE IT
Unbelievable wow
Howdys mask i predicted was gonna be like half fiend half howdy
I love how the 6th member is Windham. "There's always a seat for you at the table brother."
Also, I'd like to be the one that's defending Tempest because. I agree with him, we have to see what happens as the story develops because these creative ideas were never able to sustain themselves because there'd always have to be a match at some point.
I'm surprised no one else seems to have said this, I really like the idea of Bray Wyatt himself being the sixth member. The term 'Wyatt 6' was in circulation when he was still alive, after all. If he was still with us, the six could have easily just been these five and Bray.
As for Tempest, he is right. Right to show concern about what they are going to do next and how it's going to end up in a match, but he just goes straight into it without giving it a chance. It's all over his tone and body language, he's already made up his mind before anything's even happened. I think that's why everyone is jumping on him.
Went for a Wyatt Sick6 debut video and got a comment section full of Tempest attitude stinks. Should’ve just reacted with Oli and Luke. Tempest energy is always off.
My hope is they do not fight a match that is SANCTIONED until Summerslam, like the Fiend’s debut in ring was handled. It would he 3v3 tag, Gable n Creeds vs Howdy, Huskus and Mercy
I think it's very possible given Chad's MAGNIFICENT heel run and how that was left with the AA disbanding that he stays written off for a while - however, I can't believe that with Braun having just returned a month ago he's going to be gone long-term. His previous connection with the Wyatt family makes me think they might try to recruit him and his story will be fighting this internal battle to break free of Howdy's control (think Damien Priest's angel/demon era but, hopefully, not awful). As far as opponents, I would have put Seth and Braun as the most obvious choices but you could always give it to Otis, Maxxine and Tozawa since they've come to what could be the end of the AA storyline and they already have some connection to the Wyatt Sics through Chad.
I hope they can find a way to integrate the fiend as an entity in this group's dynamic. For example, depending on who they feud with, Uncle Howdy leads people to "join" their group as a "vessel" for the Fiend. That would make the Fiend fresh, it could keep changing throughout storylines, and in terms of in-ring wrestling we could see extremely different styles of interpreting the Fiend's intensity (meaty men slapping meat, high flying crazy Fiend, technical intense wrestle, etc).
Uncle Howdy could use the Fiend's mask as a bargaining chip and a quick "path to power".
Sorry for the fantasy booking lmao
I dunno if they'd do that, people might tune out if they did as it'd be seen as disrespecting Bray's legacy as The Fiend
@@wulfricr7635 Yeah I understand it can a sensitive topic to approach
I really love the way the group looked! I wonder if they will have Uncle Howdy be more of a manager like character and let the other wrestle for him? Since Bo has been out of ring action for awhile, but I'm excited to see what they do and where they go!
The Runaway Reference was the chef's kiss
One thing I never really put together until now is the Uncle Howdy COULD do his own firefly funhouse segment at some point as Bo Dallas. That character and the BO-Lieve stuff was very similar to that all smiles bray Wyatt funhouse persona
They didn’t attack the camera man because they needed a witness
Wyatt socks pure cinema ❤
Brays ideas live on, thank you Bo. Trips cinematic style is the perfect fit for Brays ideas to live.