@Randy Coursey It's amazing the sound of all that displacement and even with open exhaust the valve train has a musical quality . Only better sound Top Fuel!
Love this car. Everyone bashing the 428 should go watch the 67 GT500 with a 428 running stock cam specs and valves running sub 10s. Cant take an in away from a 427 ( I’ve had both plus 429 CJ…) but the 428 CJ is a great performer ( mine was a 69 Mach One C-6 car.)
Just take your time and I'm sure it will Tom did this car over a decade ago and it's still amazing so it can be done thanks for subscribing hope you like my other content just as well
My de-stroked 427 '57 Ford Custom 2 doors sedan does mid to high 9's using 5:12 gears Detroit Locker rear. Car weighs 3219 pound. Single 850 CFM double pumper Holley carb. The all-steel car is 100% street legal but has the aerodynamics of a brick.
The 427 already has a short 3.78 stroke, why destroke it? Mid to High 9s is what, 145-150mph at the end? With 5.14 gears, are you running an overdrive transmission or are you revving it to 9700+ rpm?
@@AmericanThunder It's 5:12 rear gears with a Detroit Locker posi unit and 30" tall tires. It goes through the final line at 7200 RPM. The car has 3:70 rear gears on the street with 30" radial tires.
Tom has done quite a bit with the tunning and minor mods ,but the majority of the suspension is factory Ford ,a testament to how good these cars were for the times.
Like an FE in a '67 is really going to get "out of shape" no matter what "suspension" it has under it. You have a better chance of getting "squirrely" power-shifting a stock Pinto than getting a lead-sled Ford-Edsel boat-anchored Mustang even "loose" on that much tire and enough track "prep" to "hook" on spacesaver spares.
@@GODZILLATORINORACING "For the times"? Ain't a lot changed up front yet and nothing out back on any leaf-sprung "late model" Mustang. If they're so "good" WTF do you need that much tire for? And why do Stangbangers find it so hard to keep even gutless mod-motor "SN95s" from swapping ends "on the street". You can always tell good engineering by how much it gets "borrowed". Show me another front-engine RWD American "Brand X" 2-DOOR SEDAN THAT "BORROWED" ANYTHING FROM THOSE "UNIBODY" SHITPILES.
@@deeremeyer1749 The Basic Foxbody Chassis was good enough to be used from 1979-2004 model years. They made structural and suspension changes over the years to improve it, but the bones remained mostly the same. They used the same bones for the fairmont, Granada, Zephyr, Tbird, Cougar, Capri, Durango, Continental, and more. Calm down.
You see how long these guys take to get their shit together .At our track in NYS Lebanon valley Speedway you can't pull that shit .and only some class cars can even burn out past the staging line .with most people not allowed past the water box unless your the class allowed like AA/TF and some others..
What kind of 427 are you running steel crank side oiler and the tunnel port heads or highriser heads? beautiful car we ran 427 side oilers in our super stock late model circle track 1967 fairlane and 1974 mach 1 with highriser heads industructable engine would ware out blocks! love that motor and Fords.
@@ashpnk06p60 Yes it was very dependable then weight = horsepower and everybody went small blocks we finally did 351 stroked out Windsor style motor but never had that massive torque the 427 had.
I am stil working out my Mojo on these videos , hopefully soon the quality and quantity of this channels content will be on par with some of my favorite youtube channels , I want nothing more than to entertain and inform my fellow enthusiast.
This is 14:1 compression correct, do you run e85 or race gas. What heads, cam specs, intake, exhaust, transmission, gears, rear tire size, stall converter, suspension, weight etc.... Can you drive this on the street for over an hour in and out of traffic, or is it pure drag car. ?
Nice car. Although your definition of "mostly stock" probably differs from mine....aftermarket ported heads, 14:1, etc, lol. Probably bigger than a 427 as well, I suspect. But still very cool.
I guess I should have said mostly stock in appearance. The body and interior are mostly stock . The Engine looks stock but is far from it obviously.. it's still a bad ass car!!
NO NOT BIGGER THAN A 427 , CHEVY OR CHRYSLER LOVER ! FORD 64 FAIRLANE THUNDERBOLTS with 427s run 1/4 mile times in 9second Bracket ALL DAY LONG ! Get a CLUE before YOU COMMENT!
1.42 on that pass but I believe Tom has had in in 1.30s . I think that day Tom was just doing some testing. The car is a 9.0 car it's just a lot of things gotta work for these cars to go .
I know in '67 you could order the 427FE R-Code option & would still be street legal. However in '68 & '69, Ford was touting the 428FE(RV Motorhome engine as far as I'm concerned) as the hottest for the street. For those model years, could you still special order the 427FE R-Code even though Ford wouldn't give it a VIN# allowing it on public roads? This would be for the Mustang & Torino models. Thanks...
Well I've read where the 428 Cobra Jet did not have all the Ford steel parts necessary for brutal drag racing like the FE-427 did. I'm going to simply say it the 428 was a cheaper version but I'm not completely 100% factual on this. I would appreciate anybody's input here.
@@randycoursey7230 You're the one who made the comment, I thought you could clarify what you were talking about. Guess Adult conversation isn't in your wheelhouse.
@@carmiethompson2676 Okay Carmie, I'll do the work for you, you must be a lazy liberal. There are major differences between the legendary FE-427 and the 428 Cobra Jet. Stroke, bore, block, rods, main webs, caps, cross bolted four bolt main bearings. Oil galleries and routing. This is the engine that was used in Long endurance racing like LeMans, NASCAR, and also drag racing. It was the most versatile engine of the '60s. Now the 428 Cobra Jet is no slouch, it just didn't have all the different variations of the legendary 427 that made it an actual legend in auto racing. The 428 Cobra Jet was an excellent Street engine, as was the FE-427 The FE-427 with all the goodies from the factory pulling about 425 HP was more expensive than the 428 CJ. It all came down to cost. The same is true with the 351 Windsor compared to the 351 Cleveland. The 351 Cleveland was much more expensive to build than the Windsor. I've owned both but I now currently own a 1970 Mach 1 with a 351 4vm code Cleveland engine. The M stands for high performance heads right from the factory. The 4V stands for four barrel carburetor. Recently I rebuilt my 351 Cleveland, and now it has a high performance cam in it and it's even faster than it was when it was all stock which was pretty quick.
Mostly stock? Mustangs didn't even come with 427s as engine options lol, other than the low-rise motors in 68 that don't seem to actually exist. I wish Ford had done it. The underrated dual-quad, medium riser 427 in a Mustang would have stood toe-to-toe with the ZL1 Camaros all day.
I'm not sure on the Specs on the FE Specialties Mustang , only Tom knows ! Probably a custom grind solid roller. Its a big one for sure . Tom is a a magician !
I believe Tom is running a PA C4 Automatic with Reverse Manual Valvebody 8" stall. and I am not sure the gear ,it's a 4:11 with 35 spline axels not sure of the hard parts but I know it is a full race set up.
This is 14:1 compression correct, do you run e85 or race gas. What heads, cam specs, intake, exhaust, transmission, gears, rear tire size, stall converter, suspension, weight etc.... Can you drive this on the street for over an hour in and out of traffic, or is it pure drag car. ?
Love to see the FE's getting it down the quarter mile
That's the way an FE should run.
THAT guy knows how to make an old Ford RUN!
Very Cool!!
Nice job on the videos!!
Look forward to our interview on the next sequence!!
Thanks my friend for your support!
Awesome!
I bleed Ford blue and know from much experience that FE Fords are one of best engines of all time.
Ditto 😂
@@GODZILLATORINORACING I’ll take Fe over overhyped ls garbage
The FE is the best engine ever built! Tom Lucas is the man.
That's a superb engine in the sweet stock Mustang body !!
Yes indeed!
I love that solid roller sound!
I know the sound gives me goosebumps it sounds so sweet and mean at the same time.
@Randy Coursey It's amazing the sound of all that displacement and even with open exhaust the valve train has a musical quality . Only better sound Top Fuel!
Love this car. Everyone bashing the 428 should go watch the 67 GT500 with a 428 running stock cam specs and valves running sub 10s. Cant take an in away from a 427 ( I’ve had both plus 429 CJ…) but the 428 CJ is a great performer ( mine was a 69 Mach One C-6 car.)
Awesome ride Ford power forever pull some knots out of them bow ties
He was still pulling strong at the end of the quarter 427 will turn the rpm for a big block sweet
Amazing car , NA Old School Smackdowns !
I'm another Sacramento guy and restoring a 67 Mustang. I can only hope it comes out just as nice as that one
Just take your time and I'm sure it will Tom did this car over a decade ago and it's still amazing so it can be done thanks for subscribing hope you like my other content just as well
Sounds bad ass! That's PURE MURICA!
Sweet Man love the 🐎 MUSTANG GO PONY 🐎
Been a long time since I seen a black &gold California plate great car and love the sound of a big block Ford!!!
Toms car is badass!
💯 badass!!
My de-stroked 427 '57 Ford Custom 2 doors sedan does mid to high 9's using 5:12 gears Detroit Locker rear. Car weighs 3219 pound. Single 850 CFM double pumper Holley carb. The all-steel car is 100% street legal but has the aerodynamics of a brick.
The 427 already has a short 3.78 stroke, why destroke it? Mid to High 9s is what, 145-150mph at the end? With 5.14 gears, are you running an overdrive transmission or are you revving it to 9700+ rpm?
Damn….That formula equals a lot of rpm’s. Those old FE’s are so very impressive. Almost two tons. Damn
Sorry a Ton and a half. Still Bad Ass
@@AmericanThunder It's 5:12 rear gears with a Detroit Locker posi unit and 30" tall tires. It goes through the final line at 7200 RPM. The car has 3:70 rear gears on the street with 30" radial tires.
@@conanthelibrarian8354 The car weighs 3219 pounds, not two tons.
Spot on the reaction time that trees toast
Serious squattin down poppin up n runnin away like shitstick fire!!!!
Yessah!
man thats one beautiful mustang, congrats.. luv to have it
Thanks for watching . ,It's a beauty for sure!
Tom Lucas builds some of the sweetest FES!!
He is Tops in the FE game! And he builds some sweet Lima bean motors !! Lol Hats Off to Tom!
Wow!! Does that run straight! Nice job on the suspension :--)
Tom has done quite a bit with the tunning and minor mods ,but the majority of the suspension is factory Ford ,a testament to how good these cars were for the times.
Like an FE in a '67 is really going to get "out of shape" no matter what "suspension" it has under it. You have a better chance of getting "squirrely" power-shifting a stock Pinto than getting a lead-sled Ford-Edsel boat-anchored Mustang even "loose" on that much tire and enough track "prep" to "hook" on spacesaver spares.
@@GODZILLATORINORACING "For the times"? Ain't a lot changed up front yet and nothing out back on any leaf-sprung "late model" Mustang. If they're so "good" WTF do you need that much tire for? And why do Stangbangers find it so hard to keep even gutless mod-motor "SN95s" from swapping ends "on the street".
You can always tell good engineering by how much it gets "borrowed". Show me another front-engine RWD American "Brand X" 2-DOOR SEDAN THAT "BORROWED" ANYTHING FROM THOSE "UNIBODY" SHITPILES.
@@deeremeyer1749 The Fe won everything there is to win and the other 2 went broke . Sounds like a Fiat in your future ?
@@deeremeyer1749 The Basic Foxbody Chassis was good enough to be used from 1979-2004 model years. They made structural and suspension changes over the years to improve it, but the bones remained mostly the same. They used the same bones for the fairmont, Granada, Zephyr, Tbird, Cougar, Capri, Durango, Continental, and more. Calm down.
You see how long these guys take to get their shit together .At our track in NYS Lebanon valley Speedway you can't pull that shit .and only some class cars can even burn out past the staging line .with most people not allowed past the water box unless your the class allowed like AA/TF and some others..
Fear starts with FE
Absolutely!!
Would love to own that Mustang with a Road racing set up under it.
Nuts ,lol
The Fe Ford left that chevy behind
Nothing new
Man the sound of this engine is so awesome in this Mustang.
I love the sound of those FEs
Music from BBF
What kind of 427 are you running steel crank side oiler and the tunnel port heads or highriser heads? beautiful car we ran 427 side oilers in our super stock late model circle track 1967 fairlane and 1974 mach 1 with highriser heads industructable engine would ware out blocks! love that motor and Fords.
bet it was a sideoil 427 monster motors
@@ashpnk06p60 Yes it was very dependable then weight = horsepower and everybody went small blocks we finally did 351 stroked out Windsor style motor but never had that massive torque the 427 had.
Buddy, u gotta edit out some of that staging time out. Fuckin badass car though brother
Th400 or C4, mini tubbed or 275/60r15 drag radials, efi or carb, trailer to track or driven.?
Why would he fuck about putting a Chevy transmission in it, or even a wimpy C4?
I'm sure it has a C6.
Again, Rich, Awesome job on the videos!!
You have great talent for this!!!
Keep it up my friend!!
I am stil working out my Mojo on these videos , hopefully soon the quality and quantity of this channels content will be on par with some of my favorite youtube channels , I want nothing more than to entertain and inform my fellow enthusiast.
What's motor spin to. Is this a big drag roller solid roller lifter cam.
What color code is that ? Factory silver frost ?
Correct! Factory Silver Frost!!
What have they done to the Mustang?
Beautiful motor! ❤
A lot of games here, he should have gotten a bye run on that last stunt. If they can’t beat you they will overheat you.
Old school American muscle.
You betcha ! There you go
what is mostly stock, the body?
Does this car run 9.50 on motor only, or with big nitrous shots. Whats it dyno.
How much Horsepower is motor making ? 700? At crank
This is 14:1 compression correct, do you run e85 or race gas. What heads, cam specs, intake, exhaust, transmission, gears, rear tire size, stall converter, suspension, weight etc.... Can you drive this on the street for over an hour in and out of traffic, or is it pure drag car. ?
14:1 is too much for E-85..
Nice car. Although your definition of "mostly stock" probably differs from mine....aftermarket ported heads, 14:1, etc, lol. Probably bigger than a 427 as well, I suspect. But still very cool.
I guess I should have said mostly stock in appearance. The body and interior are mostly stock . The Engine looks stock but is far from it obviously.. it's still a bad ass car!!
@@GODZILLATORINORACING Yep, it's cool, and I do like how it's not been cut up much.
@@SealofPerfection same here, pac
NO NOT BIGGER THAN A 427 , CHEVY OR CHRYSLER LOVER ! FORD 64 FAIRLANE THUNDERBOLTS with 427s run 1/4 mile times in 9second Bracket ALL DAY LONG ! Get a CLUE before YOU COMMENT!
Curious to know what the 60ft is, as it launches quite soft
1.42 on that pass but I believe Tom has had in in 1.30s . I think that day Tom was just doing some testing. The car is a 9.0 car it's just a lot of things gotta work for these cars to go .
That sounds like a full bore massive drag roller cam. Whats rpm range, like 4500-8500. Nascar motor
NASCAR and drag race cams are 2 VERY different things.
For a mid 60s Mustang what do you think it would need as far as horsepower to run in the tens?
I'm not sure but I think it in the mid to high 700 HP range
YOUR NOT TOO BRIGHT ARE YOU ? THE CARS RUNNING in 9 second bracket with the 427 ! Whatever amount of H.P What's YOUR DAMN POINT ?! .
I know in '67 you could order the 427FE R-Code option & would still be street legal. However in '68 & '69, Ford was touting the 428FE(RV Motorhome engine as far as I'm concerned) as the hottest for the street. For those model years, could you still special order the 427FE R-Code even though Ford wouldn't give it a VIN# allowing it on public roads? This would be for the Mustang & Torino models. Thanks...
Well I've read where the 428 Cobra Jet did not have all the Ford steel parts necessary for brutal drag racing like the FE-427 did. I'm going to simply say it the 428 was a cheaper version but I'm not completely 100% factual on this. I would appreciate anybody's input here.
@@randycoursey7230 "...did not have all the Ford steel parts...". What do you mean please?
@@carmiethompson2676
Why don't you Google it for yourself?
@@randycoursey7230 You're the one who made the comment, I thought you could clarify what you were talking about. Guess Adult conversation isn't in your wheelhouse.
@@carmiethompson2676
Okay Carmie, I'll do the work for you, you must be a lazy liberal.
There are major differences between the legendary FE-427 and the 428 Cobra Jet.
Stroke, bore, block, rods, main webs, caps, cross bolted four bolt main bearings. Oil galleries and routing. This is the engine that was used in Long endurance racing like LeMans, NASCAR, and also drag racing. It was the most versatile engine of the '60s. Now the 428 Cobra Jet is no slouch, it just didn't have all the different variations of the legendary 427 that made it an actual legend in auto racing. The 428 Cobra Jet was an excellent Street engine, as was the FE-427 The FE-427 with all the goodies from the factory pulling about 425 HP was more expensive than the 428 CJ. It all came down to cost. The same is true with the 351 Windsor compared to the 351 Cleveland. The 351 Cleveland was much more expensive to build than the Windsor. I've owned both but I now currently own a 1970 Mach 1 with a 351 4vm code Cleveland engine. The M stands for high performance heads right from the factory. The 4V stands for four barrel carburetor. Recently I rebuilt my 351 Cleveland, and now it has a high performance cam in it and it's even faster than it was when it was all stock which was pretty quick.
Sactown. Born there raised at that track.....
The 427 FE was born with a hatred bias to Chev And Mopar.
Sounds about right? Lol
Have ya made Alabama better yet?
Transbrake or footbrake?
Mostly stock? Mustangs didn't even come with 427s as engine options lol, other than the low-rise motors in 68 that don't seem to actually exist.
I wish Ford had done it. The underrated dual-quad, medium riser 427 in a Mustang would have stood toe-to-toe with the ZL1 Camaros all day.
The super snake came with the 427
@@ricktotz4078 The Super Snake was In no way a production car. Glad you know your Mustangs 😂
@@DrBeef216 you could order a 427 in a mustang but they never produced one
Sacramento raceway, RIP
Total Bad Ass
Salut my friend super car super video subscribe subscribe
What are the cam specs?
I'm not sure on the Specs on the FE Specialties Mustang , only Tom knows ! Probably a custom grind solid roller. Its a big one for sure . Tom is a a magician !
If you don't mind sharing im curious what trans & what rear gear??
I believe Tom is running a PA C4 Automatic with Reverse Manual Valvebody 8" stall. and I am not sure the gear ,it's a 4:11 with 35 spline axels not sure of the hard parts but I know it is a full race set up.
FordEdsel dominated Le Mans
FE 4 LIFE!
That’s some really disjointed camera work. Congrats.
Bitchin' car, but that's not a cross ram intake. Tunnel Wedge or maybe C7ZX. Hard to see.
What size tire on rear ?
Pure drag car only. Just what i thought. Ok cool.
Because all the other cars racing are "stock"
Bad little Mustang
0:08
The track entrench road looks as bad as the rest of California roads.
Could not hear any spoken words during this video
Uncap those headers man.. let the people hear that music
🔴💯🇺🇲🤘👊💪🔥🚗🔧👍
Wow that's a lot of emojis I got no idea how to translate that sentence laugh out loud
@@GODZILLATORINORACING bad ass American machine 🇺🇲💯💪🚗🐎 happy holidays
Bad as!!!!
Another "9-second" Mustang than wouldn't pass NHRA tech to run "11s".
This guy is talking out his ASS!!The car passes Tech and has a certified cage. Tom has been Licensed by NHRA. There are always haters out there.
This is 14:1 compression correct, do you run e85 or race gas. What heads, cam specs, intake, exhaust, transmission, gears, rear tire size, stall converter, suspension, weight etc.... Can you drive this on the street for over an hour in and out of traffic, or is it pure drag car. ?