Bill Laimbeer Congratulates Pat Riley & the Knicks after Being Eliminated
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- May 3, 1992 - '"Beat them,'" Bill Laimbeer said. '"Play them the way you played us."
A year removed from the infamous decision to bypass the handshake line with the Chicago Bulls following Michael Jordan's comments prior to their series finale (“The Pistons are undeserving champions,” Jordan said following Game 3. “The Bad Boys are bad for basketball."), Bill Laimbeer and the Detroit Pistons made a point to meet with the New York Knicks in the tunnel at Madison Square Garden following the Knicks' series-ending 94-87 win.
Like the 1991 Eastern Conference Finals between the Bulls and Pistons, the Knicks-Pistons series in 1992 was contentious. However, perhaps learning from his previous missteps, or perhaps making a point that respect is a two-way street, Laimbeer seemed intent on making a point to shake hands with Pat Riley and company.
Per the New York Times:
It turned out that, after five grueling games, the Pistons had little dislike or resentment for the Knicks. They were proud to shake their hands of fellow gladiators, real men who were eager to trade elbows, shoves and stares. The Pistons could at least relate to the Knicks, unlike the jet-setting, high-flying Jordan, his tongue dangling at outclassed opponents below. After losing Game 5 on Sunday, the Pistons acted as if they'd been given a whipping by kid brothers who'd grown up bigger and stronger than them.
"We created a style of play and kind of got beat by the style we advocated ourselves," said Thomas. "The Knicks were too big and physical."
NY Times Article: www.nytimes.co...
Even when he’s congratulating someone, he looks like he’s ready to fight lol
i really dont care bro
😂 I was thinking the same thing. He’s a menacing figure.
lol, true
thats Detroit style in a nutshell
Bro I rewatched it like 3 times to see if this video was trolling cuz I couldn’t tell if they were getting into it 😂😂 your comment is spot on
Bill Laimbeer showing sportsmanship. Don’t get to see that everyday
He was just desperate to have the knicks beat the bulls
don't conflate gamesmanship to sportsmanship...His game was to get into peoples heads to take them off their game and it worked.
@@america1st721So, where was his sportsmanship when the Bulls eliminated them in the '91 playoffs?
@@KennethWilliams-rr9dw one incident?
The End Of The Pistons Bad Boys Era…Chuck Daly John Salley And Jack McCloskey were gone after the 1991-1992 season…RIP Chuck Daly And Jack McCloskey…
Also RIP William Davidson And Matt Dobek…
man, I loved the Pistons bad boys, even Daly looked like a bully!
@@lootier3203 for sho…the two moves that the Pistons made in the 91-92 that weren’t good was acquiring Orlando Woolridge (RIP) And Darrell Walker…releasing James Edwards, Vinnie Johnson, And Scott Hastings wasn’t the best move…
@@beezy22 uh, Vinnie Johnson, I liked how tough he was, not very tall, but strong! Sure, the team wasn't the same afterwards, but they had already left their mark (or a dent) in the sports history.
@@lootier3203 truth and 💯
That series came down to Detroit blowing Game 3 at home and going up 2-1 in that series.
The Knicks whipped Detroit in Game 1 and Isiah hit the game winner in Game 2.
In Game 3 at the Palace, Detroit was up 2 with 4.7 seconds and 90 percent FT shooter Joe Dumars went to the line to put the game away.
He missed both shots, Ewing hit a shot to force OT and the Pistons never recovered.
It would be a decade before they won another playoff series.
I felt your Detroit Sports Fan pain in your response.
i remember it well freakin disaster
It's for the best. Had the 92 Pistons beat the Knicks they would have faced MJ and The Bulls and would have been swept, probably in embarassing fashion. The Bad Boys were done at this point. And I'm a Pistons fan.
@@zevman1985 I agree
I was at MSG for every Knick home playoff game that year. Way up in the blue seats. That was a great series. Isiah was amazing in the 4th Q of the elimination game. I loved that Knick team but they ultimately left us all frustrated year after year. So close against the Rockets in 94 but Hakeem was much better than Ewing and Starks took too many shots.
The Garden should've never got rid of the mid-court tunnel...that was classic...renovations were needed, but I miss the tunnel, and the maroon and turquoise seats
Loved the seats, and the old garden look. Definitely miss the orange courts though...
Agreed that tunnel was iconic and legendary
The passing of the torch. From the original badf boys to the 90's bad boys.
There's only one Bad Boys era sir.
The bulls win 6 championships marching through both. Bad boys???
@@jault8480 You seem to have your history confused lol. Those Bad Boys beat those Bulls 3 years in a row until they finally beat them ONCE at the end of their run. Hardly "marched" through them lol. In fact, Jordan credits them for teaching him and the Bulls what it really took to win.
Really!!! Great one!!
I'm a lifetime Knicks fan and I was never impressed nor liked the NY media calling the NY Knicks the "New Bad Boys" after this series win against the Pistons. It's never a good thing trying to steal another franchises' reputable nickname.
These guys gave us so many historical and memorable moments. RESPECT.
Even when congratulating, Bill remains BIG ANGRY
The changing of the guard. Prior to this series, the Pistons were the arch rivals of the Bulls in the east. The Knicks would take over that role for the remainder of MJs career
@Danny P Orlando was fortunate enough to get past Chicago in '95. They didn't have the maturity, experience, depth, or coaching to dethrone the '96 - '98 Bulls teams. Hardaway was the only serious threat who was actually talented and didn't rely heavily upon the officials (O'Neal).
@Danny P pre Penny would average 40 points today!!
@Danny P No, you still don't get it. O'Neal _never_ matured. Ever. Didn't matter what happened in Orlando. He was/is always going to be a man-child. Hardaway was way more mature _and_ talented, but he never had the leadership qualities or mental strength necessary to overcome the Rodman Bulls. As far as coaching, the only other guy who could compete with Jackson (at the time) was Larry Brown. He was busy with Indiana and Philadelphia. Had Chicago gotten by Orlando in '95, then there's no guarantee that they get by the Pacers. By the way, individual NBA players don't have win/loss records. It's a team sport.
This wasn’t a changing of the guard. The Bulls were never the Pistons rival. The Pistons owned them. But after battling Celtics and Lakers ending both dynasties the Pistons just ran out of gas. The Knicks caught them at the right time
Pacers
Per the New York Times:
"It turned out that, after five grueling games, the Pistons had little dislike or resentment for the Knicks. They were proud to shake the hands of fellow gladiators, real men who were eager to trade elbows, shoves and stares. The Pistons could at least relate to the Knicks, unlike the jet-setting, high-flying Jordan, his tongue dangling at outclassed opponents below. After losing Game 5 on Sunday, the Pistons acted as if they'd been given a whipping by kid brothers who'd grown up bigger and stronger than them.
"We created a style of play and kind of got beat by the style we advocated ourselves," said Thomas. "The Knicks were too big and physical."
LMAO no body wanted to shake lambiers hand...bad boys forever...back to back..:)
Laimbeer was telling riley to coach dirty and kick Bulls ass for da bad boyz..lol
Bully Laimbeer had no choice but to shake Riley's hand after the 12 angry Knicks violated him and so are the Pistons 😃
He was saying now go get your ass kicked by the bulls.
Pistons wanted to show.the world they were better than the previous year exit.
This series was the DEFINITION OF 90s BASKETBALL!! HARD FOUGHT BATTLE! NOT DIRTY BUT ALL ABOUT DEFENSE AND REBOUNDS!! EVERY INCH EVERY POINT EARNED!! 💯
Jack McCloskey, the Pistons GM, walked right past Bill Laimbeer - they were no longer speaking to each other after Laimbeer criticized him.
Yeah, I saw McCloskey walk by Laimbeer, but I didn't realize they had a feud. Why did Laimbeer criticize him?
@@Colstonewall Because he's Bill Laimbeer. By the end of his career he and Isiah were getting into bone-breaking fights in practice. Just the worst
@@Colstonewall Because McCloskey said he would trade the entire Pistons team for Michael Jordan and Laimbeer said McCloskey had no loyalty and was ruining the family atmosphere of the Pistons.
Bill laimbeer.. never known a player i hate and love so much at the same time
I would love to see him battle Draymond Green. Dat would be must see TV lol
@@YoogiNation Draymond Green can't survive in 1st qtr.
@@YoogiNation haha.. or shaq.
idk, i kinda love him, the heat and passion does it for me
@@user-yy7cw7fl8p do u love Draymond the same? He got heat and passion too.
Laimbeer should be in the HOF. Great competitor. Great career. Great champion. - My name is Ed Baker.
No he shouldn’t, and that’s why he’s not.
Edit: But all of the latter is corrrect
@@jiggagrave6861the NBA HOF is racist against white players. That’s why he’s not
@@jiggagrave6861he should …
Stop it … I bet you think Penny belongs lol
What a great competitor. He might have been resilient in loss but he knew he lost and he congratulated with authenticity’s
Geez, Bill was an absolute unit. Built like a damn refrigerator. 😂
Larger than life!
I'm betting he's saying you better be willing to knock the Bulls around too, don't just give it to us.
Piston were in too many wars in the 80s to sustain a long run ! Isiah Thomas retired at a younger age than Steph Curry is right now. OMG !
It’s also the result of Technology, equipment, and all the other things that help sustain the body being marginally better today
Riley’s Knicks years cemented him as one of the best to ever do it. They gave the Bulls their stiffest challenge and they did it with one HOF at C, a CBA SG, and platoons at SF, PF, and PG.
Laimbeer was a class act
I'm surprised to see all that good camaraderie -- especially from an early '90s series, and between these two teams. 🏀☮
Read the description
@@coryc0213, I already did. You read it.
@@jimreadey4837 whoa lol easy there, I was kinda piggy backing on what you were saying since I agreed with you, and the description went into more detail, but since I didn’t know reading descriptions was such a touchy subject for your sensitive ass I woulda just refrained lol😂☮️
@@coryc0213, whoa, easy there. I didn’t realize that you were comfortable with your tone only if you were the sole person employing it. How could I not have predicted that!
I honestly had no idea whatsoever just how butt-hurt you would get if I deflected your own words and tone back at you. Total shocker. And my bad.
Man, comments like yours ought to come with a warning like, *“Heads up! Commentor unself-aware and, potentially, narcissistic!“* I’ll be sure to make that suggestion to UA-cam so that you can endeavor to remain _comfortably numb._
Who remembers Bill Laimbeer Basketball video game.....basketball game with tackling
Bill wasn’t Congratulating them he was telling them how much he hates MJ and the Bulls and how much he wants them to beat them.
Bill was tryna unlock the Knicks hatred for MJ and the bulls. 🤣
And it didn’t work. F Bill.
That didn't look like he was congratulating him.
Always nice to see class and sportsmanship!
The days when no one high five or bro hug from the opposite team after a game in front of fans. These are the days before social media.
Guys have always been buddy -buddy with each other. I hate when I see this type of comment because it isn't based in reality--only nostalgia
@@jakethesnake3439 social media has brought players from different team's closer by it. Are you familiar with the days when you actually had to dial a wired phone to talk to someone? Players from different teams met during all star games unless they knew each other from college days. I hate comments that suggest everyone was buddy - buddy with each other, even back in the day. Non nostalgia requirement.
Laimbeer: “Go kick their asses..”
How the camera man would pan away is unbelievable. No concept of what was happening.
This was the nail in the coffin for the Pistons' run, and my Knicks took their style and made it their own for a decade.
And lost to the same team that got used to the Pistons physicality lol. Should've taken a different approach 🤣
@@Matthew-uq4hu The Knicks didn't have a second scorer. The defense was never the problem.
It's sort of strange the Knicks followed in the Pistons footsteps. The Bulls had already learned how to get by the Pistons. It seemed like Riley would have understand that and put together a team that had a better chance against the Bulls, instead of going down the Piston 2.0 road. This Knick team with Jackson and X-man was actually closer to the Pistons though, playing tough physical D and having some scoring options similar to the Pistons. However the Knicks traded away Jackson and X-man, and they ended up with a lesser, more one-dimensional version of Pistons. They lacked the scoring options of the Pistons, which was part of the Pistons success. The Pistons where tough and dirty, but they were also talented and had a lot of different weapons on the offensive end. Seemed like Riley would have made his team more like the Pistons by getting some good scoring options to complement their tough D or scrapping the whole Pistons 2.0 plan and come up with some other approach to beating the Bulls. At some level it didn't really matter, because Jordan retired which helped them get to the finals. However, in the finals that lack of offensive weaponry caught up with them and they lost to team that was actually similar to the Bulls - which in this case was Hakeems Rockets.
In theory yes, but you’ve got to start with your means and your means is always centered around your best player.
Ewing was big center bully ball. That meant you build your whole team around that idea or you blow it up.
Blowing up your team and identity after passing the Pistons is a tough - not impossible - call to make.
Keep X man and Action Jackson and then should have acquired Mitch Richmond .That was the keys to win and contend for multiple championships along with defeating the Bulls! 😎😎
I think Hakeem's Rockets would have beaten the Bulls both years regardless. They had no one to guard Hakeem, and Jordan never played well against the Rockets. Historically, Jordan had his worst games in Houston.
@@skinnypippen9580 Yes. Or, they should have tried to trade for Dennis Rodman, and they should have drafted Latrell Sprewell instead of Hubert Davis. That Knick team didn't improve in 93. I don't know how they did better looking back on it.
@@DIVISIONINCISION I dont think so. The Bulls in playoffs form were just different. And Jordan likely would have taken his struggles in Houston as a challenge and proceeded to drop 45 against the Rockets.
The NBA I remember.
Bill is looking around for people to pretend to be nice to like “I don’t think I’ve punched that guy in the throat yet, I’ll go say hi.”
Bill was 1 of the pioneers of big men with a 3 point shot
To all who know about the history of the sport and who are not mj-cheerleaders hiding facts: He was not only congratulating them. He was urging them to play the Bulls as tough as they played THEM, and he was telling them to FACK them bitches up!!!! But of course the refball and the sternball always made sure that the commercial bulls will never lose their throne...
Anyone who thinks that was a congratulations is a M O R O N !!!!!
Big homie check lol
Bill I love you your the Absolute best
Pat Riley probably still has Laimbeer on his hit list. Badabinga!
I never recall him hugging Larry ☘️
I think he said……….we can still kick your ass out in the parking lot
Interesting how it all came around. Four seasons earlier, Pat had to bitterly watch as Laimbeer’s Pistons ended the Showtime Lakers dynasty and their hopes of a three-peat by sweeping them in the Finals, which gave birth to the Bad Boys Pistons era.
Four seasons later, Laimbeer has to watch as Riley coached a young Knicks team that essentially snuffs out the final ember of the Bad Boys Pistons in the first round of the playoffs, effectively ending this incarnation of the Pistons.
honestly thought this was gonna be Laimbeer smashing down the Knicks' dressing room door or something
Classy of the Pistons to wait for the Knicks and congratulation them.
Unlike with the bulls...Knicks did them a favor...
The Pistons respected Pat Riley/Knicks/Lakers but they didn't respect Jordan the Bulls..
great footage
Nobody was trying to shake Bill’s hand 🤭
The Pistons and Knicks were very similar. Miss this NBA.
Back when basketball was great.
I was at that game. Up in the blue seats. Isiah scored something like the last 20 points for the Pistons.
You really do not realize how big Laimbeer is until he stands around normal humans.
Well there you go they did have class as well as justice. They never complained about the bulls when they played dirty or physical because they did it too.
But when Jordan all the sudden decided to sound off on them after going up 3-0 as if he's losing a war against them and try to put an asterisk on their chips, THEN they walked out on the disrespectful Bulls.
The Knicks lost to the pistons in the playoffs as well and they never became as salty as Jordan did, so the pistons gave them their respect.
The pistons also don't disrespect the Celtics for walking out on them. The bulls were the media market so they got to play victim against the pistons.
Also remember Michael jordan wanted the nba to exaggerate flagrant foul calls. Then that next year they beat the pistons with the help of the nba. Jordan is soft and has always been cuz of this.
@@ILoveFood654 There is something comical in seeing a no name like you calling arguably the Greatest Basketball Player in history SOFT!
I’m guessing you’re a very tough guy, over the Keyboard anyway.
@@manan612 okay jordan fan. Say all u want. I bet u call LBJ soft right? Same logic applied to u.
@@ILoveFood654 cool story, bro
@@ILoveFood654 Unlike you, I don’t foolishly disrespect the greats of the game and make myself look like a complete idiot.
You should learn to respect athletes (& people really) who’ve achieved way more in this world than you.
First nice thing I have seen on UA-cam where Laimbeer was trying to be nice ...
not nice.. respect and he wanted the knicks to beat the bulls.. almost happened this year.
Knicks lost in 7 to the Bulls that year in the EC semis. Also, I definitely thought the caption first meant that Lambier “congratulated” Riley after the Knicks were eliminated… that would have been par for the course lol
Bill the man!
That congratulations along with his congrats to Ewing was him trying to tell them beat Chicago we hate those guys!
I just watched an old episode of Columbo, Pat Riley hooping in the background.
Makes draymond look like an saint
Man, Bill Laimbeer would have killed Draymond if they played against each other
I never knew he had that in him.
The garden in the 90s was electric
Even when congratulating he seems mad.
Funny,how a lot of people overlook the Rockets. Hakeem dominated Shaq and won 2 in a row.
"Beat them" Bill Laimbeer said. Narrator: "They didn't" 🤣
0:48 young Jeff van gundy about to go crush a beer
The Bad Boys didn't want to concede to the Bulls the year before. I think they chose this Knicks team to be their successors.
The end of the Bad Boys era. The start of MJ and the Bulls era.
Yup, this was it, the end of the Pistons era.
The real end of the bad boy era not the MJ Bulls sweep
What year was this? The Pistons actually congratulated another team??
Epic great
Laimbeer was taunting Riley, he was saying good luck beating Chicago!
Cameraman kept moving I wanted to see more of that
Simply debunks everything
The knicks were treating Laimbeer like he had bad breath.
Wow bill wind up working at the MSG as a Liberty Head Coach
two years earlier the Pistons thrashed the Knicks four games to one in the second round, but the Knicks brought in a great coach, some new players, and caught up to and surpassed the Pistons
@Chris Wahl
Please. 😂
You mean (more like) the Pistons got older, was on the decline, and _FELL BELOW_ the Knicks level.
From Bad Boys to Sad Boys.......first they got STOMPED by Da Bulls in '91 then almost getting sweep again that time by the Knicks......oh yea, that'll humble you.
😁
Back when Knicks are relevant
Sad boys😷
Sad comment from someone who is desperate for attention.
Happy boys
After getting so much flack for the prior year they made an effort to get it in front of those camera...
Exactly!
These are the same guys that said they don't shake hands with other players because the celtics teach them that...lol..now you can really see how much they hated MJ...
Passing the torch to being the next team to get eliminated by the Bulls.
WOW!
So much nostalgia behind that Knicks team for me. That's around the time I really started following the NBA.
You must be a youngster
i remember laimbeer saying to them go play like this against the bulls
Bill Laimbeer was what teams nowadays want there center to be. He rebound, block shots, and could pull up and shoot threes flat footed.
Nah, his flagrant fouls and instigating other players would get him thrown out early. Jack Sikma would have been more like it.
Bill will eat any big man today😢
Pat Riley, man... They don't call him The Godfather for nothing.
Was that a congratulations or was he squaring up with Pat?
In modern times they would be asking to combine teams
Laimbeer: Congratulations
Riley: screw you Bill
😂
Did Ewing just completely ignore him:?
This was a time when the NBA fielded men to play the game much unlike today where all you see are self promoting thugs.
When basketball was tough now it’s a soap opera
But the Pistons would shake Chicago's hand after their loss despite Chicago shaking theirs in the two previous losses.
Chuck Daley vs Pat Riley
Knicks Must be playing Bulls next
That didn't look like a congratulations at all.
Laimbeer's Dad actually made more money than him for a few seasons
I wonder how this Knicks team would've been had they kept Xavier McDaniel and Mark Jackson?
i don t think he is
does that look like Congratulations?? 0:33
The thumbnail says otherwise.