When you think about drawing, calligraphy, painting, or simply everyday writing, you can immediately remember the look and feel of your writing and drawing tools, the sound and feeling of the tool moving over the paper, canvas, etc., and, above all, the satisfaction you glean from the experience. People genuinely interested in drawing with light should comprehend that the individual’s choice of implement is deeply personal. If you go back and watch the videos of machining the 601 body, or the more recent “Leica SL3 - Made in Germany,” and if that level of artistry and design in engineering resonates with you, then these cameras may be your light drawing tools.
Very well said, I appreciate you taking the time to articulate this thought to those who don’t see their cameras as tools, but just a device. I think it’s partly the manufacturer’s fault for marketing their cameras like they’re microwaves, giving the bullet point feature set. Leica spends a lot of time on their design, and as artists and craftsmen, you can tell as soon as you pick one up.
Ha ha, thanks buddy. Nothing but banter, but I’m cool with that. I’ll leave the serious stuff to guys like you and Gajan. We’ll leave Jason to his birds, and me to my unboxings and random videos :-)
Take, I think you should try a lot of L-mount lenses and vlog about your favorites. In particular I’m bewildered about the differences between the Sigma and LUMIX offerings!
I really don’t know what to make of this at all. I have 2 x SL2-S’s that I use for work For me to upgrade I need more batteries as they are different, currently I have 7 I will need different cards And in return what do I get ? Some fancy autofocus that will ruin the experience of shooting It’s a miss for me and just too expensive to upgrade when the SL2-S is a great camera
I say stick to your SL2-S if it does everything you need it to do. It was good enough the day before the new SL3-S was launched, so it’s still just as good today. When you have the money to upgrade, and need the extra features the SL3-S offers, then it’s time to upgrade. Many Leica enthusiasts are second adopters. We buy the previous generation cameras because we can’t afford the latest and the greatest. I think your kit sounds pretty good.
@ i love the sl2-s. I’m glad it doesn’t have phase detect tracking focus like the Sony’s . It means I can tell the camera what to do not it me. That’s the reason I moved from Sony to Leica . 2 years shooting with Sony A9 and I got bored
Wise words Take, thank you, on finding the camera that works for you and going with it. That's what it's all about, and for some people, clearly, Leica genuinely delivers the goods. But we all know Leica in a big way promotes the status-luxury-exclusive brand thing and courts the crowd that buys into it. For me, this takes away from the brand. It's not about photography, and that's unfortunate.
@@gordonbunker3272 Thanks for your thoughts. I agree that Leica does position themselves in the luxury realm because in all honesty, they have to. 99% of photographers tend to look at specs vs design and ergonomics. I think this is part of the reason why Leica has their own retail stores, like Apple, to help customers understand the value of a well designed camera. I would also argue their lenses is what really makes the system. Again you need to test it to understand. If you go to any Leica store, they will let you test any lens they have in store.
@@bigheadtaco I'm with you on all your points. I admit I'm the romantic going for the real thing and to heck with the bottom line... have tried this in my own work life and oddly enough, it did not work very well! 😃 Eons ago I worked in a camera shop that sold Leica and had a few opportunities then and since to shoot with them. No question, they are nice.
Do not understand why the SL3 and the SL3-S both take 2 different memory cards. Like if you can afford to buy Leica stuff a new set of cards is no big deal. Should have changed over to the newer card for both slots on both cameras. I have an SL2-S and a some high speed SD cards but now looks like waiting for the SL4-S before getting another body. Maybe I will get another SL2-S as a second body if I can find a good one at a good price.
As a Leica fan boy here... wildly underwhelming camera.... was hoping this camera was going to be something different and special...(not just a Panasonic s5IIx Leica edition)
Ha ha, fanboy here too :-) Because it shares the same sensor (most likely) as the S5 IIX, it makes sense that Leica will extract as much potential from the sensor as possible, who wouldn’t. But it’s definitely an S model for Leica. Same body as the SL3, it has a better EVF than the S5 IIX, CFE-B card slot which I really like, I prefer the 2 way articulating screen, and I prefer the design. Not to say I wouldn’t want the S5 IIX for my studio work, but I think the SL3-S is decent as the S model.
I have had the S5, the S5IIX and now I shoot with the SL2-S. The Panasonics are great but the Leica is just magical. Apart from the sensor, which everyone states is the same, the user experience, build, ergonomics and simply how the Leica makes me feel when I use it is all priceless to me. I love my SL2-S, it is just beautiful and was easily worth the £800 premium over the Panasonic.
@@davidmurray5926 100% Agree. The Panasonic S5 IIX is a behind-the-scene tripod studio camera. The SL2-S has to be in your hands to truly appreciate. My current studio camera is the Fujifilm X-T4. Very useful, functional, practical. It's attached to a ball head and always rigged up and ready to shoot. But I don't go out with it. My Leicas, I take them with me everywhere, even when I'm not working.
Thanks, I love wearing two watches. I started doing it 25 years ago only when travelling to keep count of two time zones. Over time, it just felt normal to wear two. I felt more balanced :-)
When you think about drawing, calligraphy, painting, or simply everyday writing, you can immediately remember the look and feel of your writing and drawing tools, the sound and feeling of the tool moving over the paper, canvas, etc., and, above all, the satisfaction you glean from the experience. People genuinely interested in drawing with light should comprehend that the individual’s choice of implement is deeply personal. If you go back and watch the videos of machining the 601 body, or the more recent “Leica SL3 - Made in Germany,” and if that level of artistry and design in engineering resonates with you, then these cameras may be your light drawing tools.
Very well said, I appreciate you taking the time to articulate this thought to those who don’t see their cameras as tools, but just a device. I think it’s partly the manufacturer’s fault for marketing their cameras like they’re microwaves, giving the bullet point feature set. Leica spends a lot of time on their design, and as artists and craftsmen, you can tell as soon as you pick one up.
Exactly my thoughts as well.
15:07 That's a gem of wisdom, beautifully said! Thank you.
Let’s go snap some pictures!!
As always you bring nothing but the best my brother
Ha ha, thanks buddy. Nothing but banter, but I’m cool with that. I’ll leave the serious stuff to guys like you and Gajan. We’ll leave Jason to his birds, and me to my unboxings and random videos :-)
Great unboxing and comparison!
Thanks for watching!!
Take, I think you should try a lot of L-mount lenses and vlog about your favorites. In particular I’m bewildered about the differences between the Sigma and LUMIX offerings!
@@joshuarothman Thanks, I definitely want to, it’s just a matter of access, especially with Panasonic. I’m working on it though!!
The all-black treatment is pretty classy. I special order half-inch black painters tape to cover the white LEICA on my SL2.
Maybe there’s a wrap you can order?
@ a skin or something?
Excellent words…. How correct you are.
I really don’t know what to make of this at all.
I have 2 x SL2-S’s that I use for work
For me to upgrade I need more batteries as they are different, currently I have 7
I will need different cards
And in return what do I get ?
Some fancy autofocus that will ruin the experience of shooting
It’s a miss for me and just too expensive to upgrade when the SL2-S is a great camera
I say stick to your SL2-S if it does everything you need it to do. It was good enough the day before the new SL3-S was launched, so it’s still just as good today. When you have the money to upgrade, and need the extra features the SL3-S offers, then it’s time to upgrade. Many Leica enthusiasts are second adopters. We buy the previous generation cameras because we can’t afford the latest and the greatest. I think your kit sounds pretty good.
@ i love the sl2-s. I’m glad it doesn’t have phase detect tracking focus like the Sony’s . It means I can tell the camera what to do not it me. That’s the reason I moved from Sony to Leica . 2 years shooting with Sony A9 and I got bored
@ I like to engage with my tools too. That’s why I prefer M mount lenses even on the SL series.
Nice unboxing. Which wrist watch is on your left hand?
The left wrist is the Momentum UDT (the Rambo watch) and the right is the Kobold Expedition Tools Monobloc
12;56 they also have the 21 apo
Wow, that would be amazing!! How about a Q3 21 APO?
Use a 21 APO with my SL2-S. My favourite lens.
@ I have to try it. I love the 21mm
Wise words Take, thank you, on finding the camera that works for you and going with it. That's what it's all about, and for some people, clearly, Leica genuinely delivers the goods. But we all know Leica in a big way promotes the status-luxury-exclusive brand thing and courts the crowd that buys into it. For me, this takes away from the brand. It's not about photography, and that's unfortunate.
@@gordonbunker3272 Thanks for your thoughts. I agree that Leica does position themselves in the luxury realm because in all honesty, they have to. 99% of photographers tend to look at specs vs design and ergonomics. I think this is part of the reason why Leica has their own retail stores, like Apple, to help customers understand the value of a well designed camera. I would also argue their lenses is what really makes the system. Again you need to test it to understand. If you go to any Leica store, they will let you test any lens they have in store.
@@bigheadtaco I'm with you on all your points. I admit I'm the romantic going for the real thing and to heck with the bottom line... have tried this in my own work life and oddly enough, it did not work very well! 😃 Eons ago I worked in a camera shop that sold Leica and had a few opportunities then and since to shoot with them. No question, they are nice.
Nice one Take
Thanks Joe. Hopefully you can get a hold of one soon as well! Although the SL2-S is no slouch…
@ yeah maybe one day I’ll get the chance to work with Leica.
13:05 You forgot the Super-APO-Summicron-SL 21 f/2 ASPH, it's great, give it a try!
Yes I did, maybe because it’s so super, I felt unworthy of even mentioning it 😅
@@bigheadtaco 😂
Do not understand why the SL3 and the SL3-S both take 2 different memory cards. Like if you can afford to buy Leica stuff a new set of cards is no big deal. Should have changed over to the newer card for both slots on both cameras. I have an SL2-S and a some high speed SD cards but now looks like waiting for the SL4-S before getting another body. Maybe I will get another SL2-S as a second body if I can find a good one at a good price.
As a Leica fan boy here... wildly underwhelming camera.... was hoping this camera was going to be something different and special...(not just a Panasonic s5IIx Leica edition)
Ha ha, fanboy here too :-) Because it shares the same sensor (most likely) as the S5 IIX, it makes sense that Leica will extract as much potential from the sensor as possible, who wouldn’t. But it’s definitely an S model for Leica. Same body as the SL3, it has a better EVF than the S5 IIX, CFE-B card slot which I really like, I prefer the 2 way articulating screen, and I prefer the design. Not to say I wouldn’t want the S5 IIX for my studio work, but I think the SL3-S is decent as the S model.
I have had the S5, the S5IIX and now I shoot with the SL2-S. The Panasonics are great but the Leica is just magical. Apart from the sensor, which everyone states is the same, the user experience, build, ergonomics and simply how the Leica makes me feel when I use it is all priceless to me. I love my SL2-S, it is just beautiful and was easily worth the £800 premium over the Panasonic.
@@davidmurray5926 100% Agree. The Panasonic S5 IIX is a behind-the-scene tripod studio camera. The SL2-S has to be in your hands to truly appreciate. My current studio camera is the Fujifilm X-T4. Very useful, functional, practical. It's attached to a ball head and always rigged up and ready to shoot. But I don't go out with it. My Leicas, I take them with me everywhere, even when I'm not working.
I have the Leica Sl2-S and i feel no magic feeling. Its just heavy..
@@fabian_mSt haha. Exactly.
Only dreams being filthy rich we can buy a luxury toy . Big boys toys.. yaks ‘ 😅
Schwarzkopfing (wearing 2 watches)?! A man after my own heart
Thanks, I love wearing two watches. I started doing it 25 years ago only when travelling to keep count of two time zones. Over time, it just felt normal to wear two. I felt more balanced :-)
It is not even stack sensor if they care about speed. People will Z8 and enjoy megapixel and fast camera together.
The "S" stands for: Sony won't sell us a better sensor. 😁
actually it stands for Same as Lumix S5II
Or soft pair of bellends.
Just give us a Leica Q with L mount. Hate the body design of these SL cameras.
The Apple of cameras.
How about if Apple is the Leica of consumer electronics?
Nice lumix s5ii
For double the trouble. Reminds me of the double-bubblegum packs. lol! 😎😎