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@@Heathcoatman My sense is that they could much more tourist money by making the primary tourist destination a (spruced-up) Everest Basecamp and then restricting the climbing to a much smaller cohort of professional climbers. The plans & progress of the climbing teams would then be part of the tourist attraction itself.
I have two 8K peaks under my belt (Chou Ouy in 2014 and Manaslu in 2019. Both were sponsored expeditions.) and although Everest always been my dream. But with the Popularity and commercialization of the mountain, and the rise of companies that tend to their paying costumers, the prices becoming more and more expensive, and its getting to the point of being ridiculous. Some companies offering gourmet chefs, masseuses, and spas. Which in my point is just a absurd. Therefore without being sponsored, Everest is simply becoming out of the pocket for most mountaineering enthusiasts. But more and more attracts rich people, that should not have been on the mountain in the first place, and that's the reason why the death toll will only continue to rise.
I agree. I have been following one recent climber. He went through a lot of the costs involved. Between the required gear, paying fees, paying the tour people, and all the other expenses it was well over $125k. On top of that the risk. I would much rather see the Sherpas be given work as mountaineering trainers on safer mountains. I'm sure it would be good steady work for them under safer conditions.
I would have thought that after two guides died in 1996 -- Scott Fischer and Rob Hall -- people would have taken a step back. The Sherpa deaths are the worst. They're doing it to support their families, for relatively little money.
You should most definitely do that someday! There are cleanup operations always working in the Khumbu and to Everest Base Camp. Thank you for watching!
I wonder if there's an organization to which we can donate money towards cleaning up the *mountains* of garbage? A feat as worthy as climbing the Mountain, if one hasn't the funds to travel. ETA, I see he indicated there are indeed cleanup operations that would benefit. :)
I remember when Rob Hall and Scott died and I think 5 others that year. We thought wow that’s so many lives sadly lost. Now 18! When is Nepal going to start putting restrictions on climbers like Tibet. I get Nepal is poor and needs the money but so many needless deaths. I remember watching Beyond the Limit and Russel Bryce pulling anyone off the mountain that could not prove to him they could climb up and down safely. He also said if any climbers put his Shepras lives at risk, he’d pull his Sherpas out and deal with lawyers later. Huge respect to Russell.
My middle school students know I'm into adventure travel and have asked me if I plan to climb Everest. When I say no and they ask me why not, I tell them that there are a lot of deaths on the mountain and that about one third of them are Sherpas. I couldn't with a clear conscience ask somebody to take a risk that high just so I could climb a mountain. After a moment one of the students asked "Wait a minute......who are the other two thirds?" When they heard that it was mainly the people from the other countries that have gone to Everest because they want to climb it, another student responded with "Shouldn't THAT be your main reason for not going??"
Do the sherpas have some sort of union? It seems like every company should be required to pay into a fund to provide for the families of sherpas who are injured and disabled or killed while working on Everest (so that their families are not forced to live in poverty when the breadwinner is killed).
No. There is no union. When the disaster of 2015 happened, and so many Sherpa died, the country of Nepal offered to pay each family $5000. There are reports, however, that the country didn’t make good on all of this. Secondarily, there is an organization called the Juniper Fund, which is a non-profit that helps assist families of Sherpa who have died. Admittedly, I don’t know a ton about it, but the concept is good.
Thk you for this important, excellent presentation. So sad families losing loved ones. I pray ppl will get the help they need.-- I don't climb mtns but am very interested in this topic.
Such a compassionate outlook, I really think it’s not about “conquering” Everest but the whole process and single mindedness in preparing for and undertaking it is a personal journey of self evolution. 🙏
We all search for our own meaning in our lives. For some it is a search for the divine within ourselves. It is this reverence for things greater than ourselves which has led so many to seek this meaning it the highest, the farthest or other extremes of our world. Then there are those who find this meaning in providing the best they can for their families by working in places which pay well because of these risks and extremes. These people often meet in these areas. As I watch this, Thom, know that I am saying their names with you to call them once again to the lips of the living. Thank you for making their names known beyond their families. May they find rest, and their families find comfort.
Fantastic comment, thank you! I'm working on Part 2 this week....with all the things happening there literally right now I want to be sure they are all remembered
Thank you for this very respectful video. I would never think about climbing mountains myself, I am just too risk averse and wouldn't want to be a burden to anyone. At the same time I find mountaineering videos (esp. Everest) fascinating because I just can't imagine ever putting myself into that kind of risk. I try to understand why some others appear to be so willing to do so.
Thank you! I have an interview with David Morton, one of the founders, linked in the notes of the video. Really glad. you took the time to watch the video!
I had many discussions with Suzanne Leopoldina Jesus before her fatal attempt. We were discussing our Nepal treks and I was not shocked (but saddened, yes) at the news of her death. Identity politics combined with altitude obsession is such a deadly combination. I would not be surprised to hear that this season will see the first Syrian Lesbian with a Cleft Palate to summit Everest. Great video as usual Thom!
I've been talking with a woman who has a pacemaker and she endeavors to climb Everest in a couple years. She has been methodically going higher and higher to mountains around the world to test out the limits of what it is she wishes to do. She is under the guidance of one of the best guides in the world (friend of mine and guest on this channel). I'll bring her story to the channel in time. Thanks so much for watching, as usual!
Sadly, if nobody goes to Everest the sherpas won't have work to support their families. It is a catch 22. I feel for them and their limited opportunities
I went to Nepal in 1990. We were going trekking not climbing. We saw Everest from a distance. Even back then, the Nepalese had a phrase, "white man's flag", describing the huge amount of toilet paper left at the climb sites and on the mountains.
Everyone gets a trophy, you-go-get-'em-girl mentality. Reminds me of when Ross and Chandler on "Friends" are talking about climbing Everest. Phoebe: "Yeah, you WOULD die!"
Thank you so much for this. Im absolutely fascinated by Everest and the people who have climbed her. Especially those who turned back despite their proximity to the summit, and those who lost their lives in the pursuit. As someone who is deeply involved in "extreme sports" (I'm a skydive instructor), my dream is to complete the trek to Everest and climb the Khumbu icefall. I've no interest in going further - a territory for those with much more drive than me! Thanks again for sharing your thoughts, I am enjoying learning all I can about Everest and the climbers ❤️
Take only photographs, leave just footprints. I think this is the motto more people should employ when going into the wilderness. The 'Asian lady with a pacemaker' is so specific a category, I wonder what her personality was like to have to be forcibly airlifted to hospital. Ambition clouds judgement so often, it seems. I'm concerned about Everest 2024 statistics, maybe the loo bags will help with waste though.
The mountain must have gotten angry at the chap chucking bottles over edge...sounds disrespectful especially with the news of rubbish left...if you take it on, take it away.
Truth be told, the way it was worded in the article might have not been literal....further information on what happened was unavailable. Often times the individuals writing the stories don't have a sense of the mountaineering terminology. The gentleman might have been switching bottles out. It's very sad he was lost.
@@EverestMysteryit doesn't matter it's turned into a status symbol. Which really isn't. The biggest challenge to climbing the worlds longest and steepest waiting line is patience. And the trash these greedy rich people (along with the government issuing permits) leave is absolutely disgusting. It's mother nature's way of weeding out the useless. Everest in my youth was a natural wonder only the best and strongest and most determined could climb. Now any monkey with a bank account and the patience of jobe can climb it. Couldn't care less. Weed out the useless.
This was a great video. I really enjoyed you telling us more about the people who lost their lives. It shows the more human side of mountaineering. Of course it would be better to hear that no one died but unfortunately people do.
5 years of financial help because they are now orphans 😭. So sad. Then what?! Back to extreme poverty after 5 years I guess. There should be a high, very high fee that should go towards benefits for these orphans and the widows.
Seems like it has become a huge money grab. Especially since tour operators from other countries have started to operate. There should be strict restrictions on who can go, not just those who have $$$. They should have a minimum amount of past mountain experience to qualify, they should have to pass a strict physical. They should also have to do training specific to the area. I know some tour operators do take people up slowly, and take everyone through training / acclimation over days / weeks. I would imagine not all of them do it.
I believe many individuals are in the belief that Everest is easy to climb....just look at the many comments across this channel that Everest is a piece of cake. It isn't easy at all. Some of these individuals are sold on expedition outfitters who say that it is simple and that they'll get to the summit. Any people with first-person experience will know beforehand the immense risk they are taking should something go wrong. Thanks fo all of your support!
I love how passionate people are about climbing but we all have to do our part. People should take an effort to help the people in Nepal for better education and creating better jobs so they don't need to die on the mountains.
@@miketausig4205 You can travel there for one, tourism generates money. Do export/import deals. Support a local charity and keep an eye on how things are going now and then. Many things you CAN do around in your own society and the rest of the world, instead of being cynical ass. Find solutions, don't just complain.
@@missJolie85 I made a very benign one sentence statement. Yet your paragraph of assumption calls ME cynical? HA! Somebody is angry at the world and taking it out on folks who are just hear to enjoy the videos and people on them. Well, except those throwing stones from their glass houses. Thanks Karen.
If I was at a public campsite like EBC and people were dying in those numbers I would seriously consider getting the heck out of there. I wonder if life insurance pay out for mountaineering accidents. If so they all should buy big policies.
@kamakaziozzie I think it was another video from this same gentleman that talked about the wife of a sherpa whose life was lost on the mountain. The insurance co didn't want to pay because she was unable to produce his body. 😢
I have been in touch with an exceptional young woman who does have a pacemaker and she is endeavoring to one day climb Everest. She is taking small steps to accomplish her goal by climbing ever higher mountains in the world under the auspices and guiding of a person I consider to be one of the best guides in the world. I'll certainly bring her story to the channel when the time comes! Thanks so much for watching!
@@Markussoulmusicnothing selfish on becoming a permanent ice lolly on the mountain while hundreds off selfish people step over you and on you so that they can "summit"
@@Markussoulmusic A-fib can bring you to your knees and if you have an IED, blood pressure monitors no longer register when you're in an attack. l only know now by when my legs go too weak and numb to stand. So, good choice - and after all, life is about pacing and understanding our limitations.
Are you familiar with Jim Williams with Exum? I worked for him back in the 90's, right when Sandy Pitnam was in that storm. She tried to talk him into taking her to the top once more and he declined, thank God.
I have a copy of Mallory and Irving’s expedition. No ropes no ladders. No thermal or sufficient weather clothing. Commercial businesses are without conscience. Not in my view a summit , in comparison to the earlier expeditions. That commerce to put so many families without a father figure, and whilst this is what we feel are taken advantage, promotewbwons to follow in fathers footsteps , the heartbreak. Sherpas taken advantage of, the very ones who need to support families. Commercial climbing needs to stop. A interesting documentary of the base camps sanitation and environmental impact on health down stream, sewerage seeping into farmlands along with rubbish. Leaving those who live there with a toxic health hazard. Organisers have washed their hands of the responsibility, just rubbing hands with money, a disgraceful. I would go further. But I can’t. Take away the easy oa D Make Mountaineers. Not a gathering of a weekend experience. Cause money buys anything.
I understand why people think it’s a fool hardy risk, however, I get it. I feel such a draw to go there and do the same thing. I don’t know why, it’s really weird. I have probably watched 50 videos and read countless articles to know the good and the bad. I would love to try it, but it’s too much of a risk, even financially. It is very possible you could get out there and not be able to even get to base camp 2 then all your money is already spent. I could never afford it anyway.
I completely hear you. The only way for me to get there was to be hired to film documentaries. I believe it's possible to save and make it happen. But, if I were going to save $45000 I'd probably go to a place where there were very few, if any, other human beings on a remote part of the map. Thanks so much for watching!
I was avoiding this episode as too heartbreaking to sit through, but you asked me to check Juniper out so I watched it. I note that "The Juniper Fund" has omitted publishing Annual Reports at their website since 2020, so there's a question as to current finances. I also note that the IRS has failed to list a copy of the tax return 990T since 2021. Not sure if this is IRS fault or Juniper. I get that teams in small organizations can be pressed for time to cover all responsibilities but since it's a non-profit it's paramount to reassure the public.
No disrespect intended here. I certainly feel for any family of a 69 year old that would even consider this. Base camp in assistance as an expert, absolutely. Go for it. I can’t imagine putting myself in a position of compromise. I’ll be taken when it’s my time, but could never wave goodbye to my family/grandchild taking a risk of no return. Horrible to even consider.
I am wondering if Xuebin Chen died on the southern side of the mountain in Nepal because the Chinese authority had refused him a permit to climb the northern route from Tibet, not being experienced enough.
I would love to just trek to Everest base camp and not go up. To carry my own tent and my own supplies and not have to put that burden on a sherpa. My own trash as well. But at the same time, paying them for their time, their openness to share their lands and moutians with me, makes me tworn on not wanting to hire their help. Maybe just someone to help guide me and tell me the history and life of the regions and the local people/villages, would be another way to pay them without putting a heavy burden on them. I know staying at tea houses greatly helps the area. And buying local at their markets also helps. Any way to help their lives and economy but never put their lives in danger, is what i wish I could do. If only I had the means to do it. I get emotional sometines watching Everest content because of how strongly i respect the Sherpa and their culture. How honored I would feel to even be allowed to experience and learn from them. To thank them for allowing me to share in their beautiful country and experience their culture. I know they do it cause they need the money, but it doesnt mean I wouldn't feel deeply honored anyway. Thanking them for everything they do.
Absolutely. In fact, when Jon Krakauer wrote Into Thin Air about the '96 disaster, he felt it would dissuade people from climbing the mountain. It had the opposite effect.
I can't like your video enough. Is it really a success if one uses help? Is it really personal achievement? Is it really worth it all those lives? Is it really worth of all garbage left on the mountain?
@@EverestMystery I personally don't see it as my personal achievement if I didn't do it myself or with help of friends, part of the team we assembled together. As for garbage, it makes me sick to see that people who "love nature" but leave so much garbage behind them.
To be honest, i have been horrified by Everest. Not by its beauty but by the people on it. People on Everest have no honour. I would rather die trying than leave somebody behind, walk over them, on them, while they are begging for help. Everest should be closed down and climbed solely for research and science purpose. The money the locals would miss is just bullshit. They had a life there before we came, they are fine without us, i am pretty sure off that. Tons and tons off garbage also left, luxury like television and every imaginable comfort you could wish for. Its discusting... All for ego. You cant even drink any off the water there, its all polluted by death people and human feces
There is nothing to be done when a person is sick at high altitude. In order for you to climb mountains it’s necessary to accept that you or others will die. It’s impossible to get anyone down. It’s a sick morality, but it’s truly “every man for himself”.
Several pieces of info you state are patently false. Not all the water is polluted. Second, the entire Sherpa community has built their livelihood around high altitude trekking. If tourism was to suddenly stop, it would take generations for them to recover. Third, while there are some who climb for ego, that is not true of everyone. I am not wealthy…in fact, I’m barely middle class. The two times I went had nothing to do with ego, and it took years to raise money. I met many people just like me, who climbed for reasons very personal to themselves. In fact, I would say more people are like that, than the rich, over-privileged people you imagine venturing up there. Lastly, I would say, unless you climb and/or have been to the mountain, it’s not fair to judge something, especially since it’s obvious that you don’t have that understanding gained only from experience. Peace.
@@miketausig4205 20 year old "sherpas" risking and losing their lifes for the luxury off tourists isnt ethical for me. They most likely only get a scrap off the money the tourists pay for while some big companies cash in the big money, Africa style, but than in Nepal. I dont believe it improves their community that much, i would rather say they are better off without us. Considering the deaths and how tourism has evolved over the decades on Everest and it has become normal to leave people for death to defend their summit, its just morally wrong to continue that. I would never go to place like that after knowing what i know now
Another channel called Alan Arnette gives weekly updates on what is happening on Everest during the climbing season. (Thom and Alan know each other, so hopefully Thom will not mind me mentioning this here.)
It’s pretty damned apalling that after the 1996 tragedy was so extremely well documented, we learned nothing. If anything the community cranked up the dangerous commercialization of this mountain. Since it’s so lucrative for the Sherpas to work in mountaineering, they basically have no choice if they want to raise their kids in relative comfort. So these guys are stuck between grinding poverty and a really good chance of dying on the mountain.
Very good, thank you! As an avid outdoorsman, living, climbing, skiing, hiking on a daily basis in the mountains I have never really been able to grasp the egocentrism of the people that pay to have persons help them achieve goals that they would otherwise not be able to achieve themselves. How sad and empty they must be.
When they say illness is that actually altitude sickness? Seams like too many just happened to pass from being sick from normal things we all could get.
Ive acctually seen last year,were they were taking bets on how many would die,how,sex of said persons etc.... Its jst crazy. All that $ to go freeze,eat and drink crap food and then kill yourself going up or down a big ol hill! As we say in the south... "Bless there hearts"...😮
I get it that Nepal is a poor country and issuing permits brings in a lot of mountain. I think the sheer number of people on the mountain and the long waits at the bottlenecks is in itself dangerous to all. I don’t know what the solution is.
Yes, there is....it's super affordable and covers virtually everything..... Also, as a member of the American Alpine Club they will pay for rescues up to 7000 meters, including helicopter evacs. Cheers and thank you for watching!
unfortunately with this sort of situation, many of the people involved with supporting foreign climbers may be the breadwinner of their family, perhaps with an income far beyond what might be available to them otherwise. It's a niche occupation, and they risk the same sorts of tragedy that those they're guiding undertake, since they have the training and knowledge. Sir Edmund Hillary may have summitted with only Tenzing Norgay, but how many others were employed in the support team? Does Nepal have much of a tourist industry beyond Everest?
I would like you to make a video about the life and living conditions of the Sherpas when they are not on mountaineering missions. I want to know what they do. Thank you😊
Many moons ago, in 1993 during my first trip into the Khumbu Valley, the Sherpa homeland, I filmed extensively on this. I produced a documentary of sorts that ran on local television in western Massachusetts. For some time I sold it in VHS form (yup!) but I haven't seen it in ages. I called it Eyes Of Wonder. Maybe I'll dig that out and consider getting back up there to do some more filming. Thanks so much for your support!
I live in Baltimore and never even knew about this mountain and how dangerous it is to traverse. Thanks for introducing me to this Everest life. I started watching your channel in 2023 and I'm so glad you have a sponsor. I even introduced this subject to my son who has also become interested in climbing mountains. I'm taking him to a climbing wall for his birthday.❤
If you have the money and the drive to do Everest, you are doing it at you own risk. I think the trash problem is more important. To trash somewhere so sacred has to be in my opinion, a travesty.
The "due to illness" I can't help but think COVID. I have an autoimmune disorder and I got COVID very badly. I have permanent lung damage as well as other long-term if not permanent issues. I really do wonder if COVID had damaged their lungs and they just didn't realise how bad it was until attempting the climb.
First women to summit with a pace maker and an older woman to boot. A pure death wish. That climb taxes even a healthy heart and cardiovascular system severely. She adapted, she died.
There is a remarkable woman working with a prominent guide who has a pacemaker - she is planning to go there in 2026, working her way up bigger and bigger mountains. I will have her story here eventually
I’ve heard of Sherpa getting very small tips and at times nothing, is this true ?, if Westerners can afford these trips how can you skimp the guys that got you there. I guess it’s the same as stiffing the waitress after an expensive meal. I’d love an answer and I dig your show
The wrong tourists climbing the wrong mountain, for the wrong reason, in the wrong physical and mentdl condition. Commercialization ruins everything it touches, from a sleepy, quiet town, to a primitive camp site, to a fishing spot, to a major city, to a mountain. Once too many people create critical mass, the experience is changed, forever.
Selfish ppl who know the risks. Zero pity for them and a lesson to many poor wifes to not trust these guys that leave orphans cause their own egos r more important than rheir familys
The crux of these tragedies is blatantly obvious, it's money. Until people wake up to that fact and start putting human lives first, as well as respecting the environment and local people, then deaths will continue unabated just so a few people can boast about their achievements- mostly achieved by paying others to enable them to do it.
Well you’ve seen my posts I assume!! I abhor the whole ‘ business of Everest!!’ To me the only word I can use is ‘pathetic’!! I believe that in order to even apply for a permit you must have proof that you’re fit and have tackled so me high altitude ( above 10-12 thousand feet! Maybe many times too!!!! Clean it up and work with Nepal for new requirements!!!!!!😡
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March 2nd 2023
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March 2nd 2023
There are more articles on every news platform. FTC are a gov organization and so I hope you believe it to be credible enough to warn content creators that I support against this. But I do understand that he needs to pay the bills, but the people this company targets should be informed.
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March 2nd 2023
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The Federal Trade Commission, "The Federal Trade Commission has issued a proposed order to settle charges that online counseling service BetterHelp revealed consumers' sensitive data with third parties such as Facebook and Snapchat for advertising after promising to keep such data private."
March 2nd 2023
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It is absolutely INSANE that someone with a PACEMAKER would be so stupid as to attempt to summit. She was a hazard to everyone in her party
Greed 😂 💵.....one less rich dummy
Nepal needs to get control of this nonsense. They need to be more like Tibet concerning who they let on the mountain.
@@Heathcoatman They won't when they charge 11k dollars for a licence to climb everest
@@davidm3maniac201 Yes, I understand. Did you watch the video or just jump straight to the comments?
@@Heathcoatman My sense is that they could much more tourist money by making the primary tourist destination a (spruced-up) Everest Basecamp and then restricting the climbing to a much smaller cohort of professional climbers. The plans & progress of the climbing teams would then be part of the tourist attraction itself.
I have two 8K peaks under my belt (Chou Ouy in 2014 and Manaslu in 2019. Both were sponsored expeditions.) and although Everest always been my dream. But with the Popularity and commercialization of the mountain, and the rise of companies that tend to their paying costumers, the prices becoming more and more expensive, and its getting to the point of being ridiculous. Some companies offering gourmet chefs, masseuses, and spas. Which in my point is just a absurd. Therefore without being sponsored, Everest is simply becoming out of the pocket for most mountaineering enthusiasts. But more and more attracts rich people, that should not have been on the mountain in the first place, and that's the reason why the death toll will only continue to rise.
I agree. I have been following one recent climber. He went through a lot of the costs involved. Between the required gear, paying fees, paying the tour people, and all the other expenses it was well over $125k. On top of that the risk. I would much rather see the Sherpas be given work as mountaineering trainers on safer mountains. I'm sure it would be good steady work for them under safer conditions.
Thanks as always for watching the videos and for sharing your thoughts. Truly appreciate your insight and experience
I would have thought that after two guides died in 1996 -- Scott Fischer and Rob Hall -- people would have taken a step back. The Sherpa deaths are the worst. They're doing it to support their families, for relatively little money.
I don't understand that, at all.
There is no type of safety net for the sherpas that pass away?
@@simbalantana4572 they make good money and they chose their job. Without the climbers many wouldn't have jobs.
When is it EVER going to stop?????? Can we not appreciate this natural beauty from the floor??????
No convincing needed. I'm not going to one of the most remote places on earth only to be surrounded by a lot of people, noise and trash.
I'd love to go to basecamp and help with the clean up efforts.
You should most definitely do that someday! There are cleanup operations always working in the Khumbu and to Everest Base Camp. Thank you for watching!
then go ...instead of talking about it...blah blah blah
go. just hire a guide.
@@smartbomb7202 RUDE. And do you know that not everyone has the means to travel halfway around the world?
I wonder if there's an organization to which we can donate money towards cleaning up the *mountains* of garbage? A feat as worthy as climbing the Mountain, if one hasn't the funds to travel.
ETA, I see he indicated there are indeed cleanup operations that would benefit. :)
I didn’t know Pemba Tenzing died. I watched a lot of videos, movies, and documentaries about Mt. Everest and everyone loved Pemba. My condolences.
@05ymarie so many of them are called pemba though. Hard to keep up
I remember when Rob Hall and Scott died and I think 5 others that year. We thought wow that’s so many lives sadly lost. Now 18! When is Nepal going to start putting restrictions on climbers like Tibet. I get Nepal is poor and needs the money but so many needless deaths. I remember watching Beyond the Limit and Russel Bryce pulling anyone off the mountain that could not prove to him they could climb up and down safely. He also said if any climbers put his Shepras lives at risk, he’d pull his Sherpas out and deal with lawyers later. Huge respect to Russell.
Tibet is also poor
@@missJolie85 yes , but to many people are dying,because of the insane amount of permits they hand out to people who should not be on that mountain!
My middle school students know I'm into adventure travel and have asked me if I plan to climb Everest. When I say no and they ask me why not, I tell them that there are a lot of deaths on the mountain and that about one third of them are Sherpas. I couldn't with a clear conscience ask somebody to take a risk that high just so I could climb a mountain. After a moment one of the students asked "Wait a minute......who are the other two thirds?" When they heard that it was mainly the people from the other countries that have gone to Everest because they want to climb it, another student responded with "Shouldn't THAT be your main reason for not going??"
Keep making these videos man. You’re doing great work!
Thank you my friend!
Thanks for you level headed posts and stating facts.
Thank you very much and thanks for watching!
Great channel!! No interest in mountain climbing .... But I think I must have, I cant get enough of your brilliantly narrated and edited mini docs!
Do the sherpas have some sort of union?
It seems like every company should be required to pay into a fund to provide for the families of sherpas who are injured and disabled or killed while working on Everest (so that their families are not forced to live in poverty when the breadwinner is killed).
No. There is no union. When the disaster of 2015 happened, and so many Sherpa died, the country of Nepal offered to pay each family $5000. There are reports, however, that the country didn’t make good on all of this. Secondarily, there is an organization called the Juniper Fund, which is a non-profit that helps assist families of Sherpa who have died. Admittedly, I don’t know a ton about it, but the concept is good.
Thk you for this important, excellent presentation. So sad families losing loved ones. I pray ppl will get the help they need.-- I don't climb mtns but am very interested in this topic.
Same
Congrats on the ad spot! I really enjoy your content and am glad to see it producing results for you in that sense.
Another excellent video. I appreciate the gravitas with which you approach the subject matter without the sensationalism. Well done.
Thank you for being a voice ❤
Thank you and thank you for supporting the channel!
Such a compassionate outlook, I really think it’s not about “conquering” Everest but the whole process and single mindedness in preparing for and undertaking it is a personal journey of self evolution. 🙏
Always enjoy the videos but also loved the music, looking forward to Pt 2
"Unseen"? I saw the video at least 10 years ago. Is it not available to anyone anymore? Fascinating video given the significance.
Another fantastic video dude. Excellent tributes to the fallen
We all search for our own meaning in our lives. For some it is a search for the divine within ourselves. It is this reverence for things greater than ourselves which has led so many to seek this meaning it the highest, the farthest or other extremes of our world. Then there are those who find this meaning in providing the best they can for their families by working in places which pay well because of these risks and extremes. These people often meet in these areas. As I watch this, Thom, know that I am saying their names with you to call them once again to the lips of the living. Thank you for making their names known beyond their families. May they find rest, and their families find comfort.
Fantastic comment, thank you! I'm working on Part 2 this week....with all the things happening there literally right now I want to be sure they are all remembered
This is what l like most about your channel: you don't pander to viewers.
Thanks so much, truly appreciate it :)
Thank you for this very respectful video.
I would never think about climbing mountains myself, I am just too risk averse and wouldn't want to be a burden to anyone.
At the same time I find mountaineering videos (esp. Everest) fascinating because I just can't imagine ever putting myself into that kind of risk. I try to understand why some others appear to be so willing to do so.
To name the ,go fund me‘ page for the support for the families of the three sherpas who died, was very decent. Thank you!
Thank you! I have an interview with David Morton, one of the founders, linked in the notes of the video. Really glad. you took the time to watch the video!
I had many discussions with Suzanne Leopoldina Jesus before her fatal attempt. We were discussing our Nepal treks and I was not shocked (but saddened, yes) at the news of her death. Identity politics combined with altitude obsession is such a deadly combination. I would not be surprised to hear that this season will see the first Syrian Lesbian with a Cleft Palate to summit Everest. Great video as usual Thom!
I've been talking with a woman who has a pacemaker and she endeavors to climb Everest in a couple years. She has been methodically going higher and higher to mountains around the world to test out the limits of what it is she wishes to do. She is under the guidance of one of the best guides in the world (friend of mine and guest on this channel). I'll bring her story to the channel in time. Thanks so much for watching, as usual!
@@EverestMystery Wow...wonderful...good to hear of the preparation! Such a contrast. Look forward to seeing it.
Great job on this 😊
Thank you! 😄 Part 2 will be out today or this evening
@@EverestMystery Did you see the article that came out today about the Sherpa making his 30th climb? I'll link it....
I truly enjoy your posts. I have never climbed, but you bring excellent view of what it entails. Thank you!
Thank you very much! And thank you for supporting the channel, it means very much to me!
Sadly, if nobody goes to Everest the sherpas won't have work to support their families. It is a catch 22. I feel for them and their limited opportunities
I went to Nepal in 1990. We were going trekking not climbing. We saw Everest from a distance. Even back then, the Nepalese had a phrase, "white man's flag", describing the huge amount of toilet paper left at the climb sites and on the mountains.
Everyone gets a trophy, you-go-get-'em-girl mentality. Reminds me of when Ross and Chandler on "Friends" are talking about climbing Everest. Phoebe: "Yeah, you WOULD die!"
@@claudiafurlow1749 friends isn’t real life
Good video. Don’t worry about the critics and “pandering”. Do your thing bro. 😎 💪
Thank you so much for this. Im absolutely fascinated by Everest and the people who have climbed her. Especially those who turned back despite their proximity to the summit, and those who lost their lives in the pursuit.
As someone who is deeply involved in "extreme sports" (I'm a skydive instructor), my dream is to complete the trek to Everest and climb the Khumbu icefall. I've no interest in going further - a territory for those with much more drive than me!
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts, I am enjoying learning all I can about Everest and the climbers ❤️
Love your last sentence. Great channel.
I’m honored you stayed until the end, thank you!
Take only photographs, leave just footprints.
I think this is the motto more people should employ when going into the wilderness. The 'Asian lady with a pacemaker' is so specific a category, I wonder what her personality was like to have to be forcibly airlifted to hospital. Ambition clouds judgement so often, it seems. I'm concerned about Everest 2024 statistics, maybe the loo bags will help with waste though.
The mountain must have gotten angry at the chap chucking bottles over edge...sounds disrespectful especially with the news of rubbish left...if you take it on, take it away.
Truth be told, the way it was worded in the article might have not been literal....further information on what happened was unavailable. Often times the individuals writing the stories don't have a sense of the mountaineering terminology. The gentleman might have been switching bottles out. It's very sad he was lost.
@@EverestMysteryit doesn't matter it's turned into a status symbol. Which really isn't. The biggest challenge to climbing the worlds longest and steepest waiting line is patience.
And the trash these greedy rich people (along with the government issuing permits) leave is absolutely disgusting.
It's mother nature's way of weeding out the useless.
Everest in my youth was a natural wonder only the best and strongest and most determined could climb.
Now any monkey with a bank account and the patience of jobe can climb it.
Couldn't care less. Weed out the useless.
Fascinating!! Thanks, Thom!!
This was a great video. I really enjoyed you telling us more about the people who lost their lives. It shows the more human side of mountaineering. Of course it would be better to hear that no one died but unfortunately people do.
5 years of financial help because they are now orphans 😭. So sad. Then what?! Back to extreme poverty after 5 years I guess. There should be a high, very high fee that should go towards benefits for these orphans and the widows.
Seems like it has become a huge money grab. Especially since tour operators from other countries have started to operate. There should be strict restrictions on who can go, not just those who have $$$. They should have a minimum amount of past mountain experience to qualify, they should have to pass a strict physical. They should also have to do training specific to the area. I know some tour operators do take people up slowly, and take everyone through training / acclimation over days / weeks. I would imagine not all of them do it.
I am struck by the incredibly poor judgement of so many that do this and don't survive. Just astonishing.
I believe many individuals are in the belief that Everest is easy to climb....just look at the many comments across this channel that Everest is a piece of cake. It isn't easy at all. Some of these individuals are sold on expedition outfitters who say that it is simple and that they'll get to the summit. Any people with first-person experience will know beforehand the immense risk they are taking should something go wrong. Thanks fo all of your support!
@@EverestMystery one look down those precipitous rock faces should clear up that particular delusion!
I love how passionate people are about climbing but we all have to do our part. People should take an effort to help the people in Nepal for better education and creating better jobs so they don't need to die on the mountains.
There are lots of organizations ready to take your money.
@@miketausig4205 You can travel there for one, tourism generates money. Do export/import deals. Support a local charity and keep an eye on how things are going now and then. Many things you CAN do around in your own society and the rest of the world, instead of being cynical ass. Find solutions, don't just complain.
@@missJolie85 I made a very benign one sentence statement. Yet your paragraph of assumption calls ME cynical? HA! Somebody is angry at the world and taking it out on folks who are just hear to enjoy the videos and people on them. Well, except those throwing stones from their glass houses. Thanks Karen.
@@miketausig4205 Move on dude, you seem to be unable to let this go.
@@missJolie85 by one response to you? Ok Karen.
If I was at a public campsite like EBC and people were dying in those numbers I would seriously consider getting the heck out of there.
I wonder if life insurance pay out for mountaineering accidents. If so they all should buy big policies.
Many do.
@kamakaziozzie I think it was another video from this same gentleman that talked about the wife of a sherpa whose life was lost on the mountain. The insurance co didn't want to pay because she was unable to produce his body. 😢
Sounds ridiculous climbing when one has a pacemaker, we all have. Dreams to follow but know your limitations..
I have been in touch with an exceptional young woman who does have a pacemaker and she is endeavoring to one day climb Everest. She is taking small steps to accomplish her goal by climbing ever higher mountains in the world under the auspices and guiding of a person I consider to be one of the best guides in the world. I'll certainly bring her story to the channel when the time comes! Thanks so much for watching!
True story I went through a phase of wanting go up there ,but I have afib and that's just selfish if something happens so move on to other ventures
@@Markussoulmusicnothing selfish on becoming a permanent ice lolly on the mountain while hundreds off selfish people step over you and on you so that they can "summit"
@@Markussoulmusic A-fib can bring you to your knees and if you have an IED, blood pressure monitors no longer register when you're in an attack. l only know now by when my legs go too weak and numb to stand. So, good choice - and after all, life is about pacing and understanding our limitations.
@@Bearwithme560 most definitely my friend
Thanks for the tips, but having already used eight of my lives, l'm being extra careful with the last one.
Are you familiar with Jim Williams with Exum? I worked for him back in the 90's, right when Sandy Pitnam was in that storm. She tried to talk him into taking her to the top once more and he declined, thank God.
Yes absolutely I met Jim on Denali in the early 2000’s. He’s a star in the guiding realm, world class. Thanks for watching and for commenting!
The amount of Steel left on that Mountain is huge
Also, i love that your ad is for mental health services. I think that your heart is in the right place
It's a natural fit. We all need help at times....
Steel ????
Oxygen tanks.
I have a copy of Mallory and Irving’s expedition. No ropes no ladders. No thermal or sufficient weather clothing.
Commercial businesses are without conscience. Not in my view a summit , in comparison to the earlier expeditions.
That commerce to put so many families without a father figure, and whilst this is what we feel are taken advantage, promotewbwons to follow in fathers footsteps , the heartbreak. Sherpas taken advantage of, the very ones who need to support families. Commercial climbing needs to stop.
A interesting documentary of the base camps sanitation and environmental impact on health down stream, sewerage seeping into farmlands along with rubbish. Leaving those who live there with a toxic health hazard. Organisers have washed their hands of the responsibility, just rubbing hands with money, a disgraceful. I would go further. But I can’t. Take away the easy oa
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Mountaineers. Not a gathering of a weekend experience. Cause money buys anything.
How tragic all these deaths. however, the lady with a pacemaker! How sad!
It's time for mountaineers to pack out their garbage.
I understand why people think it’s a fool hardy risk, however, I get it. I feel such a draw to go there and do the same thing. I don’t know why, it’s really weird. I have probably watched 50 videos and read countless articles to know the good and the bad. I would love to try it, but it’s too much of a risk, even financially. It is very possible you could get out there and not be able to even get to base camp 2 then all your money is already spent. I could never afford it anyway.
I completely hear you. The only way for me to get there was to be hired to film documentaries. I believe it's possible to save and make it happen. But, if I were going to save $45000 I'd probably go to a place where there were very few, if any, other human beings on a remote part of the map. Thanks so much for watching!
I climbed Mt Fuji while in the Marines and that was good enough for me.
That sounds amazing! I'd love to do that someday - thanks for watching!
I was avoiding this episode as too heartbreaking to sit through, but you asked me to check Juniper out so I watched it. I note that "The Juniper Fund" has omitted publishing Annual Reports at their website since 2020, so there's a question as to current finances. I also note that the IRS has failed to list a copy of the tax return 990T since 2021. Not sure if this is IRS fault or Juniper. I get that teams in small organizations can be pressed for time to cover all responsibilities but since it's a non-profit it's paramount to reassure the public.
I think any absence of documents could easily be solved with a request to the Juniper Fund.
Good for you Tom.
No disrespect intended here. I certainly feel for any family of a 69 year old that would even consider this. Base camp in assistance as an expert, absolutely. Go for it. I can’t imagine putting myself in a position of compromise. I’ll be taken when it’s my time, but could never wave goodbye to my family/grandchild taking a risk of no return. Horrible to even consider.
Thank you Thom
Very welcome and thank you!
Breadwinners need to carry life insurance. LOTS of life insurance if they are mountaineers.
Even living the rest of one’s life with no fingers, toes or nose is too high a price to pay.
Pride comes before the fall.
Nice hat. I’ve got the same one ❤
Hell yeah, totally love Umphrey's!
Tenzing was the name of the Sherpa that made the first ascent with Hillary when they became the first to summit.
Tenzing Norgay, and exceptional man of character, integrity and grit
“I’m gonna give you 10 reasons to not climb Mont Everest”
Say no more! I only need one anyway lol
LOL, so true! Thanks for watching :)
I’ve never understood the need to reach a goal that has this much danger. It fascinates me but I’m way too pragmatic 🤷🏻♀️
That's the whole idea....because of the danger it becomes more intriguing. Granted, there are many who don't connect with that line of thinking ;)
I am wondering if Xuebin Chen died on the southern side of the mountain in Nepal because the Chinese authority had refused him a permit to climb the northern route from Tibet, not being experienced enough.
I would love to just trek to Everest base camp and not go up. To carry my own tent and my own supplies and not have to put that burden on a sherpa. My own trash as well.
But at the same time, paying them for their time, their openness to share their lands and moutians with me, makes me tworn on not wanting to hire their help. Maybe just someone to help guide me and tell me the history and life of the regions and the local people/villages, would be another way to pay them without putting a heavy burden on them. I know staying at tea houses greatly helps the area. And buying local at their markets also helps. Any way to help their lives and economy but never put their lives in danger, is what i wish I could do. If only I had the means to do it.
I get emotional sometines watching Everest content because of how strongly i respect the Sherpa and their culture. How honored I would feel to even be allowed to experience and learn from them. To thank them for allowing me to share in their beautiful country and experience their culture. I know they do it cause they need the money, but it doesnt mean I wouldn't feel deeply honored anyway. Thanking them for everything they do.
Interesting video. But as you have summited Everest, you must know that people are not going to stop doing it.
Absolutely. In fact, when Jon Krakauer wrote Into Thin Air about the '96 disaster, he felt it would dissuade people from climbing the mountain. It had the opposite effect.
I can't like your video enough.
Is it really a success if one uses help? Is it really personal achievement? Is it really worth it all those lives? Is it really worth of all garbage left on the mountain?
Thank you for watching! In part 2 I'll talk more about the garbage situation...
@@EverestMystery I personally don't see it as my personal achievement if I didn't do it myself or with help of friends, part of the team we assembled together. As for garbage, it makes me sick to see that people who "love nature" but leave so much garbage behind them.
Mister we have soon the 100yr anniversary of mallorys everest climb, do you have someting special commig up for this occasion ? :)
Yes, some cool videos await. Thanks for watching!
@@EverestMystery thank you very much
To be honest, i have been horrified by Everest. Not by its beauty but by the people on it. People on Everest have no honour. I would rather die trying than leave somebody behind, walk over them, on them, while they are begging for help. Everest should be closed down and climbed solely for research and science purpose. The money the locals would miss is just bullshit. They had a life there before we came, they are fine without us, i am pretty sure off that. Tons and tons off garbage also left, luxury like television and every imaginable comfort you could wish for. Its discusting... All for ego. You cant even drink any off the water there, its all polluted by death people and human feces
They drink melted snow.
There is nothing to be done when a person is sick at high altitude. In order for you to climb mountains it’s necessary to accept that you or others will die. It’s impossible to get anyone down. It’s a sick morality, but it’s truly “every man for himself”.
Several pieces of info you state are patently false. Not all the water is polluted. Second, the entire Sherpa community has built their livelihood around high altitude trekking. If tourism was to suddenly stop, it would take generations for them to recover. Third, while there are some who climb for ego, that is not true of everyone. I am not wealthy…in fact, I’m barely middle class. The two times I went had nothing to do with ego, and it took years to raise money. I met many people just like me, who climbed for reasons very personal to themselves. In fact, I would say more people are like that, than the rich, over-privileged people you imagine venturing up there. Lastly, I would say, unless you climb and/or have been to the mountain, it’s not fair to judge something, especially since it’s obvious that you don’t have that understanding gained only from experience. Peace.
@@miketausig4205 20 year old "sherpas" risking and losing their lifes for the luxury off tourists isnt ethical for me. They most likely only get a scrap off the money the tourists pay for while some big companies cash in the big money, Africa style, but than in Nepal. I dont believe it improves their community that much, i would rather say they are better off without us. Considering the deaths and how tourism has evolved over the decades on Everest and it has become normal to leave people for death to defend their summit, its just morally wrong to continue that. I would never go to place like that after knowing what i know now
Does anybody know how it’s going this season on Everest? I heard the ice fall is going to be treacherous this year.
Another channel called Alan Arnette gives weekly updates on what is happening on Everest during the climbing season. (Thom and Alan know each other, so hopefully Thom will not mind me mentioning this here.)
It’s pretty damned apalling that after the 1996 tragedy was so extremely well documented, we learned nothing. If anything the community cranked up the dangerous commercialization of this mountain.
Since it’s so lucrative for the Sherpas to work in mountaineering, they basically have no choice if they want to raise their kids in relative comfort. So these guys are stuck between grinding poverty and a really good chance of dying on the mountain.
Very good, thank you! As an avid outdoorsman, living, climbing, skiing, hiking on a daily basis in the mountains I have never really been able to grasp the egocentrism of the people that pay to have persons help them achieve goals that they would otherwise not be able to achieve themselves. How sad and empty they must be.
When they say illness is that actually altitude sickness? Seams like too many just happened to pass from being sick from normal things we all could get.
Ive acctually seen last year,were they were taking bets on how many would die,how,sex of said persons etc....
Its jst crazy.
All that $ to go freeze,eat and drink crap food and then kill yourself going up or down a big ol hill!
As we say in the south...
"Bless there hearts"...😮
I get it that Nepal is a poor country and issuing permits brings in a lot of mountain. I think the sheer number of people on the mountain and the long waits at the bottlenecks is in itself dangerous to all. I don’t know what the solution is.
I dream of been on this mountain many of times since a child and I'm not a climber.
It's an admirable dream, one that to me took decades to realize. Thank you for watching the video!
@@EverestMystery I would love to start climbing for big mountains but I'm hitting 40 soon I might be a bit old to start from scratch but I hope not
God Rest their Souls
If it is deadly to climb why is climbing not made illegal? Just a random question
It's deadly to drive a car, too....45,000 deaths on US highways every year.
All I need is 1 reason - having to carry around human waste. Beyond that, the crowds.
I cant believe all these climbers just leave their garbage all over the mountain. That is unreal!
This more recent video has some encouraging news on the garbage situation. I think you'll find it fascinating: ua-cam.com/video/4taBBHg96rw/v-deo.html
Imagine spending $50,000 to die. Is there life insurance specifically for the expedition?
Yes, there is....it's super affordable and covers virtually everything..... Also, as a member of the American Alpine Club they will pay for rescues up to 7000 meters, including helicopter evacs. Cheers and thank you for watching!
unfortunately with this sort of situation, many of the people involved with supporting foreign climbers may be the breadwinner of their family, perhaps with an income far beyond what might be available to them otherwise. It's a niche occupation, and they risk the same sorts of tragedy that those they're guiding undertake, since they have the training and knowledge. Sir Edmund Hillary may have summitted with only Tenzing Norgay, but how many others were employed in the support team? Does Nepal have much of a tourist industry beyond Everest?
I think enough people have climbed Mount Everest. They oughta shut it down then clean it up and not allow any more people to climb it.
It it would be nice if there was a program to help the Sherpa families to earn an income in a way that doesn't cause into constantly risk their lives.
I would like you to make a video about the life and living conditions of the Sherpas when they are not on mountaineering missions. I want to know what they do. Thank you😊
Many moons ago, in 1993 during my first trip into the Khumbu Valley, the Sherpa homeland, I filmed extensively on this. I produced a documentary of sorts that ran on local television in western Massachusetts. For some time I sold it in VHS form (yup!) but I haven't seen it in ages. I called it Eyes Of Wonder. Maybe I'll dig that out and consider getting back up there to do some more filming. Thanks so much for your support!
I live in Baltimore and never even knew about this mountain and how dangerous it is to traverse. Thanks for introducing me to this Everest life. I started watching your channel in 2023 and I'm so glad you have a sponsor. I even introduced this subject to my son who has also become interested in climbing mountains. I'm taking him to a climbing wall for his birthday.❤
If you have the money and the drive to do Everest, you are doing it at you own risk. I think the trash problem is more important. To trash somewhere so sacred has to be in my opinion, a travesty.
They need to stop attaching these firsts to the Mountain
The "due to illness" I can't help but think COVID. I have an autoimmune disorder and I got COVID very badly. I have permanent lung damage as well as other long-term if not permanent issues. I really do wonder if COVID had damaged their lungs and they just didn't realise how bad it was until attempting the climb.
Do you know of a legit company that cleanups Everest that I can donate to?
I just added the Let's Clean Up Nepal (non profit) organization that has been doing work for years about this, and added a link to their homepage
First women to summit with a pace maker and an older woman to boot. A pure death wish.
That climb taxes even a healthy heart and cardiovascular system severely. She adapted, she died.
There is a remarkable woman working with a prominent guide who has a pacemaker - she is planning to go there in 2026, working her way up bigger and bigger mountains. I will have her story here eventually
I’ve heard of Sherpa getting very small tips and at times nothing, is this true ?, if Westerners can afford these trips how can you skimp the guys that got you there. I guess it’s the same as stiffing the waitress after an expensive meal. I’d love an answer and I dig your show
Things happen if you're gonna do extreme sports
Guthrie Trapp!!!
That dude rips!! I was wondering if anyone would notice 🎸
@@EverestMystery first saw him in 2007 at Robert's Western World. Such an amazing player!
The wrong tourists climbing the wrong mountain, for the wrong reason, in the wrong physical and mentdl condition.
Commercialization ruins everything it touches, from a sleepy, quiet town, to a primitive camp site, to a fishing spot, to a major city, to a mountain.
Once too many people create critical mass, the experience is changed, forever.
Here's my intro for this video that will save you time. Here's 1 reason to not climb Mt. Everest, YOU'LL DIE.
Lol love it!
We are now in the 2024 climbing season and I bet their will be 19 deaths this year
Selfish ppl who know the risks. Zero pity for them and a lesson to many poor wifes to not trust these guys that leave orphans cause their own egos r more important than rheir familys
The crux of these tragedies is blatantly obvious, it's money. Until people wake up to that fact and start putting human lives first, as well as respecting the environment and local people, then deaths will continue unabated just so a few people can boast about their achievements- mostly achieved by paying others to enable them to do it.
Well you’ve seen my posts I assume!! I abhor the whole ‘ business of Everest!!’ To me the only word I can use is ‘pathetic’!! I believe that in order to even apply for a permit you must have proof that you’re fit and have tackled so me high altitude ( above 10-12 thousand feet! Maybe many times too!!!! Clean it up and work with Nepal for new requirements!!!!!!😡
Everest is not in my bukt list unless they put a elevator to the top