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  • Mike Florio and Michael Holley discuss how the expectation for Jared Goff was that he’d get better, and he has, as well as reflect on how Detroit has been on the rise ever since he landed with the Lions. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #NFL
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 156

  • @AlwaysPlayer4
    @AlwaysPlayer4 Місяць тому +105

    3 years since the trade and Florio still only brings up how bad Goff use to be and not how he's been leading this new team to relevancy.

    • @TeamTuc
      @TeamTuc Місяць тому +3

      It shows /highlights his past and how he has progressed ever since!
      It's like ignoring the Lions anemic past despite their most recent success as of late!
      Until both (Goff & Lions) win a championship, be prepared to hear the past....Shoot even when they do win, trust and believe that their past will be a part of the climatic landmark.
      Whether you agree (or not) with the man's perspective, it's truth of the matter!

    • @allensaunders449
      @allensaunders449 Місяць тому

      True. He's been excellent last 2 year's

    • @sirtheodorefranciswindsor
      @sirtheodorefranciswindsor Місяць тому +4

      Florio lives rent free in your head, cry harder 🤣🤣

    • @kiasersouzayxoxo
      @kiasersouzayxoxo Місяць тому

      @@TeamTucagreed same with my vikes but you still gotta fight for your qb

    • @Xedefenseform
      @Xedefenseform Місяць тому +1

      @@TeamTuc Whats insane is yes, he struggled his rookie season with the rams, but then those times that people say were his down years with the rams, really weren't that terrible. They were a clear regression sure, but that was due to injuries to him and the team.

  • @Gondawannaland
    @Gondawannaland Місяць тому +68

    Goff could win three Super bowls with the Lions and Florio would still say the Lions got hoodwinked by the Rams. Get over yourself. You were wrong about Goff and your spin does not make you right. Act like YOU learned something since last year.

    • @chrisweidner4768
      @chrisweidner4768 Місяць тому +4

      👍☝️💯

    • @Gondawannaland
      @Gondawannaland Місяць тому +5

      @@softjones3128 I am and know many long time fans. I don't hear anyone hating on them this year. Not since the beat the Rams in the playoffs.

    • @SimónGonzález-w6p
      @SimónGonzález-w6p Місяць тому

      Florio is an idiot. Jared Goff has been excellent in Detroit. He is a top 10 qb for sure. I don't understand the narrative that media has created, he didn't deserve it.

    • @garymartin1045
      @garymartin1045 Місяць тому

      I'd rather have golf who's supposed to be a bad quarterback who went to a Super Bowl lost to one of the best defenses ever than any other running clowns out there.

  • @noahm7977
    @noahm7977 Місяць тому +28

    I dont think anybody blames goff for the 4th down drops. The passes were great and just got dropped

  • @jaycutty8697
    @jaycutty8697 Місяць тому +71

    People forget Goff led the Rams to the superbowl without Cupp and a healthy Gurley in the playoffs. Also, the Rams won a SB with a middle of the pack strength of schedule and a dropped interception by the 49ers in the NFC championship. People also seem to give Stafford a pass because while they did win the SB, he also led the league in Interceptions that season.

    • @zaneplatt3533
      @zaneplatt3533 Місяць тому +3

      This!

    • @midnyghtson
      @midnyghtson Місяць тому +9

      Stafford also threw 2 picks IN the super bowl. He was very average on a loaded team.

    • @mendelspalter282
      @mendelspalter282 Місяць тому +13

      They also added Jalen Ramsey, OBJ and Von Miller. Wasn’t the same team that Goff was on at all.

    • @DoLessMyGuy
      @DoLessMyGuy Місяць тому +2

      the rams had one of the best defenses in the league that 2018-2019 year and jared goff missed the same pass twice in the super bowl. That being said, Jared Goff got better

    • @VulcanLogic
      @VulcanLogic Місяць тому +2

      Stafford also threw for almost 5000 yards and 41 TDs. It's not like he was being carried.

  • @Detroitraised
    @Detroitraised Місяць тому +14

    As a lions fan of 35 years.
    I never thought I’d hear a pundit say…
    “The Lions are one of the Elite teams in the NFL” 💪🏽😏

    • @billkramer2994
      @billkramer2994 Місяць тому

      Biggest bad Lions luck was Davidson not getting ownership of Lions.
      WCFord was the black sheep of Ford family and proved why w his inept ownership fr 60 yrs!!!!

  • @joewestfall9682
    @joewestfall9682 Місяць тому +36

    This guy is like a broken record.

  • @wishinifishin5172
    @wishinifishin5172 Місяць тому +78

    This has to kill Florio to say anything good about Goff and the Lions

    • @sirtheodorefranciswindsor
      @sirtheodorefranciswindsor Місяць тому +1

      Florio lives rent free in your head, cry harder 🤣🤣

    • @gardallergoth6790
      @gardallergoth6790 Місяць тому +2

      So true

    • @thewizardofoz511
      @thewizardofoz511 Місяць тому +4

      Reports states they had to give him Tylenol apparently because his heart was beating fast during this segment 😭😬

    • @noorzanayasmin7806
      @noorzanayasmin7806 Місяць тому +5

      @@sirtheodorefranciswindsor I bet Gared Goff lives rent free in Florio head and keeps him up at night lol. We Lion fan knew what Jared Goff was about and was not about to hear what a critic had to say. They can cry all they want, victory is ours. Who got the last laugh now? You cant make this stuff up lol😅🤣😂

    • @sirtheodorefranciswindsor
      @sirtheodorefranciswindsor Місяць тому

      @@softjones3128 Florio lives rent free in your head, cry harder 🤣🤣

  • @billkramer2994
    @billkramer2994 Місяць тому +11

    This guy always bk handed compliment fr Lions!!

  • @21bigtiger
    @21bigtiger Місяць тому +38

    I always find it interesting how Florio loves to pin the NFC championship game loss on Goff when it was more bad defense, 4th down decisions and Josh Reynolds dropping passes than anything.

    • @justicestyles
      @justicestyles Місяць тому +1

      It was on Goff …

    • @jesse8458
      @jesse8458 Місяць тому +11

      @@justicestyles last year's NFC title game?? Goff played a really solid game, it takes a massive hater to think Goff was even one of the 10 biggest reasons the Lions lost that game.

    • @AztecAstro19
      @AztecAstro19 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@justicestyles How?

    • @isaacnixon484
      @isaacnixon484 Місяць тому

      ​@@justicestylesjust a hater

    • @Rubyredacted
      @Rubyredacted Місяць тому +2

      ​@@justicestylesstop capping youngblood Reynolds drops wouldve been the winning points Goff dropped them right in the breadbasket 🤡
      Sit the fk down

  • @derekharp2805
    @derekharp2805 Місяць тому +45

    Lol that NFC game was not on Goff. What a load of bull crap. What a joke!

    • @AustinNickolaus-m2r
      @AustinNickolaus-m2r Місяць тому +1

      He didn’t play well though purdy played better

    • @baseballsoffury642
      @baseballsoffury642 Місяць тому +4

      @@AustinNickolaus-m2rPurdy was given the game 💀

    • @AustinNickolaus-m2r
      @AustinNickolaus-m2r Місяць тому +1

      @@baseballsoffury642 no he wasn’t he steeped up and made plays where Goff didn’t

    • @tlew137
      @tlew137 Місяць тому +10

      @@AustinNickolaus-m2rGoff executed what was asked of him. He played well. The coaching and drops loss that game.

    • @AustinNickolaus-m2r
      @AustinNickolaus-m2r Місяць тому +1

      @@tlew137 no Goff didn’t make any difference in that game he needs it all perfect and it never will be

  • @russellpenoyer8180
    @russellpenoyer8180 Місяць тому +11

    Rams won superbowl after trade but after that they been mediocre while goff is getting better

  • @leonardhollerbach9806
    @leonardhollerbach9806 Місяць тому +7

    Goff’s game passer rating stat: 155.8
    Mahomes best game passer rating: 154.8

  • @neebus1209
    @neebus1209 Місяць тому +6

    The man didn’t miss a pass all game. And caught a td

  • @derrickbeaubearic4100
    @derrickbeaubearic4100 Місяць тому +13

    Mike explains the Stafford/Goff trade for the 3 people who haven't heard about it.

  • @bradleymaravalli2851
    @bradleymaravalli2851 Місяць тому +5

    Lions' GM Brad Holmes was one head of scouting personnel for the LA Rams and believed that getting Jerod Goff in the Matthew Stafford trade was an asset.

  • @Adri_Unsung
    @Adri_Unsung Місяць тому +2

    Florio still trotting out the narrative that Detroit had to be PAID to take Goff meanwhile Brad Holmes has said like eleventy billion times that they wanted Goff and he was always our guy

  • @johnthrasher8146
    @johnthrasher8146 Місяць тому +3

    Michael Holley is one of my very favorite commentators/columnists ever! Jared Goff must get great viewer and listening ratings. He remains your PFT go-to story line after all these years. That Thursday night in the Coliseum week 4 of 2018 must've burned deep. Thanks for the excellent segment.

  • @davidmcpherson1347
    @davidmcpherson1347 Місяць тому +15

    Both of these guys, and anybody else, can Say WTF they want about Geoff; He completed EVERY pass he threw 😮 NO picks, 2 TD's AND Caught a TD PASS???! (GTFO.)

  • @LionsFanSyndicate
    @LionsFanSyndicate Місяць тому +1

    We don’t care what you think Mike Goff’s our guy, guy ride or die

  • @larrysimmons926
    @larrysimmons926 Місяць тому +2

    In the past I've argued that Goff is an "on-field asset manager" not a "gunslinger QB" like Stafford. I've argued while Stafford may be a physically better QB than Goff, but Goff is a cooler, more emotionally stable QB. And his ability to read defenses make him the better QB to take Detroit where it's going. The Stafford trade gave the Lions the draft capital to do a massive rebuild. And when the Rans threw in Goff to get rid of his contract, for the Lions, Goff was the cherry on top.

    • @normanmission1508
      @normanmission1508 Місяць тому

      goff can change the franchise he do that with rams now with lions

  • @Noreputationgallery
    @Noreputationgallery Місяць тому +5

    Goff not the reason we lost! The defense played bad, Gibbs fumbled, drop passes by Brown and Reynolds. Tired of him saying that like it’s the truth

  • @Mrsandman98120
    @Mrsandman98120 Місяць тому +4

    Goff lost to the greatest head coach and qb of all time yall make it out like he lost a Super Bowl to bums

  • @KDASH201
    @KDASH201 Місяць тому +4

    Lets blame Goff for the drops against the 49ers lol

  • @mikeercole2800
    @mikeercole2800 Місяць тому +3

    Goff is 2-1 vs. the Rams, including putting them out of the playoffs last year. That trade of Stafford for Goff will always be a win/win for both teams. Do Rams fans feel the same way?

  • @martinjanni1632
    @martinjanni1632 Місяць тому +6

    That two point conversion got nullified because the Seahawks AND the referees were too reliant on penalty flags to keep the Seahawks in the game! You get exactly what you deserve!

  • @madboyreadynow28
    @madboyreadynow28 Місяць тому +4

    They called this man a bust after his rookie season with the worst QB K’er coach. In his 3rd season he takes the Rams to the Superbowl and Sean McVey still didn’t appreciate his talents and now looking like he’s on track to win a few Superbowls in Detroit and who knows the HOF. I am a fan of Jared’s story and career.

  • @Alchemygem
    @Alchemygem Місяць тому +1

    Those helmets is hard

  • @AustinNickolaus-m2r
    @AustinNickolaus-m2r Місяць тому +1

    I think you can put most QB behind that oline and run game and they can do similar or better

  • @michaelmcknight9404
    @michaelmcknight9404 Місяць тому

    guy leads the league in yards since hes come into it. 60+ td passes and 9000 yards over the last 2 seasons. only him and mahommes. give the man his respect...

  • @dreamerrt216
    @dreamerrt216 Місяць тому

    Thank you Mike Florio. I never wanted you to kiss Jared Goff's butt, you just always took unnecessary digs at him or gave him backhanded compliments. In this video however, you seemed to put your Vikings fandom aside, and just gave an unbiased, straightforward opinion, that was actually accurate. 👊🏿👊🏻

  • @timothyowens4547
    @timothyowens4547 Місяць тому

    Matt stafford not wanting to go through another rebuild,the rams anxiety to win now, and jared goff's chip on his shoulder coupled with detroit's front office rebuild= future dynasty!! History will prove the lions win this trade BIG TIME!

  • @cgpapineau
    @cgpapineau Місяць тому

    Florio consistently says the Rams sent Goff and a first round pick to the Lions for Stafford. The Rams sent two first round picks and a third round pick with Goff for Stafford. Brad Holmes parlayed those picks into some of the key players on the team. The Rams won the Super Bowl, but the Lions look relevant for years to come if they can keep their talent, which will be a big task.

  • @henrim9348
    @henrim9348 Місяць тому +4

    I remember when Geno was bad. Come on, people can improve.

  • @normanmission1508
    @normanmission1508 Місяць тому

    Last year goff has the longest game without interception now he make another history

  • @AiryLarry
    @AiryLarry Місяць тому

    Goff had nothing to do with the loss to the 49ers. The Lions are now built to be good for the next 4+ years with their Center, both tackles, QB and best receiver all locked up for the foreseeable future. Youth throughout the defense and no serious cap issues in the next few years.

  • @samb3396
    @samb3396 Місяць тому

    Sports media challenge: Talk about Jared Goff without mentioning being traded in 2021. Level: Impossible

  • @SolidifyEntertainment
    @SolidifyEntertainment Місяць тому +1

    The 2 dropped passes by Reynolds in the niners game cost the Lions a trip to the Superbowl, not Goff or Campbell!

    • @bOmBAsTiK
      @bOmBAsTiK Місяць тому

      What about Goff's overthrown floater to Jamo in the end zone or second half undergrown pass to LaPorta when we needed a first down??

  • @joewestfall9682
    @joewestfall9682 Місяць тому +5

    According to Florio if you don’t win the super bowl your QB is trash! I guess Jim Kelly was total garbage.

  • @MrJaberwocky777
    @MrJaberwocky777 Місяць тому +1

    Best mutually beneficent trade in NFL history.

  • @weontopdough1008
    @weontopdough1008 Місяць тому

    He pushed it back and was able to do enough to get the win against your Vikings for the NFC North championship Florio

  • @w00deey12
    @w00deey12 Місяць тому +1

    Penei Sewell is a Right Tackle

  • @teddylovesit
    @teddylovesit Місяць тому +1

    the PFT guys are SO much better than the ESPN guys.

  • @kyndread71
    @kyndread71 Місяць тому

    FFS, quit trying to tie the Lions' loss vs Niners to Jared Goff. He didn't go for all of those 4th downs, he didn't drop the wide-open catches, he didn't fumble in the Lions own redzone. Championships are won by TEAMS.

  • @Marq2322
    @Marq2322 Місяць тому +1

    Goff just lead us down for a score in OT to get our first win this season. what are we taking about here? lol

  • @ceomikenoble
    @ceomikenoble Місяць тому +5

    Just tell us no matter what you are going to hate on the Lions. Smh! Gtfoh🤬🤬🤬

  • @milemarker301
    @milemarker301 Місяць тому +1

    '@4:30 "unexpectedly'? no, just to you and the naysayers, not to Brad Holmes and MC/DC & those of us who've followed the Bay Boy since Cal.

  • @tonyle275
    @tonyle275 Місяць тому +1

    Cause our OC help him got better

  • @ToddBeaudry
    @ToddBeaudry Місяць тому +1

    Rams weren't good enough with Stafford either without making other defensive moves and another wide receiver 😂😂😂

  • @brianmullins6430
    @brianmullins6430 Місяць тому +2

    lol yes Sam Darnold has done so much Florio. Vikings homer.

  • @georgewashington1106
    @georgewashington1106 Місяць тому +1

    Fruit Loops? I was thinking Coco Puffs

  • @dt4807
    @dt4807 Місяць тому +2

    The trade was good for both sides, it’s that simple…., Rams lost that Super Bowl because they got significantly out coached, stop putting this on Goff

  • @jefformsby5604
    @jefformsby5604 Місяць тому

    These aren’t the SOL.
    They are the NFL
    New F’ing Lions

  • @shawnj8051
    @shawnj8051 Місяць тому

    The reality is almost anyone could have won with the Rams last Superbowl team! Let’s not forget or pretend that team wasn’t stocked with hall of fame talent! However I think the Lions are now too!

  • @AustinNickolaus-m2r
    @AustinNickolaus-m2r Місяць тому

    I also want to point out the Seahawks were missing 4 starters on the Dline

    • @paulmayer8654
      @paulmayer8654 Місяць тому

      Their backups actually played better than the starters that were out there. They had a pressure or sack on nearly 40% of Goff’s dropbacks, and the Lions had their worst rushing game of the season.

    • @AustinNickolaus-m2r
      @AustinNickolaus-m2r Місяць тому

      @@paulmayer8654 again they were down 4 great starters entering that game their pass rush was off.

    • @paulmayer8654
      @paulmayer8654 Місяць тому

      @@AustinNickolaus-m2r it doesn't matter if the starters are great if the backups play near that level. It was Seattle's best pass rush game of the year. Pressure or sack on almost 40% of dropbacks is really good. The d-line was NOT their problem last night.

    • @AustinNickolaus-m2r
      @AustinNickolaus-m2r Місяць тому

      @@paulmayer8654 they didn’t play near that level backups are back up for a reason. And you aren’t going to tell me the backups played good the fine got shredded

    • @paulmayer8654
      @paulmayer8654 Місяць тому

      @@AustinNickolaus-m2r they did better against Detroit than any other team has done all year, and it was the 2nd best game the DL had this season.

  • @boommack
    @boommack Місяць тому

    "I'm Fruit Loops" is diabolical.

  • @RyanDayisaBeardedLady
    @RyanDayisaBeardedLady Місяць тому

    Goff got kicked to the curb and traded to one of the worst rosters in the league along with 2 1sts and a 3rd for the guy Stafford who won a super bowl immediately with his old team. He could have folded and just took his money and retired but he ended up having a massive chip on his shoulder and becoming the man. Love my QB

  • @gerrymaclellan-yp4qy
    @gerrymaclellan-yp4qy Місяць тому +1

    Goff good

  • @acouniha
    @acouniha Місяць тому

    Florio, give us a fucking break. That Rams team was in win now mode. Those contracts were not sustainable. They wanted Stafford because he was more proven at the time when Goff was still developing. And they gave up a boatload for him. Stan bought that SB. They’ve been mediocre ever since. wtf is your point?

  • @matthewdale7801
    @matthewdale7801 Місяць тому +1

    Florio losing more credibility with every broadcast.

  • @MrMoose-os9rd
    @MrMoose-os9rd Місяць тому

    Woah woah woah !!!! Now listen all of our upfront defence we're out on injury so don't think the game would have been the same with ALL of our starters ,relish the win won't happen again

    • @brianchapman58
      @brianchapman58 Місяць тому

      THE Lions were missing 4 starters, including the best center in the NFL, Frank Ragnow.

  • @calebdickmann2998
    @calebdickmann2998 Місяць тому

    Guy wants Goff to throw the ball and catch it I guess. 😂

  • @TomOnTheRun
    @TomOnTheRun Місяць тому

    Dude, Florio is so crazy. Championship game loss is not on Goff. Dropped passes and bad coaching. Keep it real.

    • @bOmBAsTiK
      @bOmBAsTiK Місяць тому

      You're right but Goff did not step up and WIN the game, maybe he'll take that step this year before Ben Johnson leaves. That's a legit criticism of Goff's game despite his stats.

  • @313moneyteamp3
    @313moneyteamp3 Місяць тому

    Did you guys notice the shoes, it's the shoes

  • @rudycianfarani7608
    @rudycianfarani7608 Місяць тому +2

    This is a product of Dan Campbell!

  • @mr.williamh1270
    @mr.williamh1270 Місяць тому

    Mike talking like Sam Darnold is official. Shut up Mike.

  • @Johnfreedom64
    @Johnfreedom64 Місяць тому

    He's comparing Darnold closing games in the beginning of the regular season to Goff closing a NFC Championship game....what a joke Mr homer

  • @emoney3912
    @emoney3912 Місяць тому

    Florio and Cowherd can’t take them serious.

  • @yurgz
    @yurgz Місяць тому

    Imagine the narrative or more glazing these type of guys would be doing if that game was played by Josh Allen, Lamar, or patty. Goff stays disrespected no matter how he plays

  • @allensaunders449
    @allensaunders449 Місяць тому

    I like him alot

  • @shallbeknown
    @shallbeknown Місяць тому +1

    Flores is such a drama queen

  • @sendmedics
    @sendmedics Місяць тому +1

    Florio is so annoying to watch. He constantly starts looking at his phone or tablet or whatever, whenever the guest was talking...its disrespectful.

  • @kingofallmediums2123
    @kingofallmediums2123 Місяць тому

    The Rams 🐏 😮😮😮😮😮😊😊😊😊

  • @krynnC
    @krynnC Місяць тому

    Still old Florio … always blaming Goff for when the Detroit loses, No Credit when he goes perfect, always a butt even when he’s perfect. Football is Team sport.

    • @bOmBAsTiK
      @bOmBAsTiK Місяць тому

      He just gave him credit stop watching if you take JG criticism that personal.

  • @gestapostomp21
    @gestapostomp21 Місяць тому

    Black Harry Potter and the trans Hermione giving us there god insight into a sport they never played

  • @professorzoom4467
    @professorzoom4467 Місяць тому +2

    Florio you rude look when spoken to bruh

  • @brandoncarlson8094
    @brandoncarlson8094 Місяць тому +2

    Rams cheifs 2018

  • @ipeclub
    @ipeclub Місяць тому

    Just admit you were wrong and stop it already Florio... it's very unbecoming.

  • @thefix2
    @thefix2 Місяць тому

    Florio can’t stop bringing up crap that Goff did in the past. Yeah he lost in the Super Bowl with the Rams. Please stop acting like he can’t go back and win it. Stop bringing this up every time you talk about him Florio.

  • @kingofallmediums2123
    @kingofallmediums2123 Місяць тому

    Florio is going senile! Ohhh

  • @Steve_643
    @Steve_643 Місяць тому +1

    I can’t stand Florio

  • @freddiecarr7602
    @freddiecarr7602 Місяць тому

    The parrot is on

  • @kingofallmediums2123
    @kingofallmediums2123 Місяць тому

    Jared Goof! 😮😮😮😮😮 😯 oh Hommmm m

  • @justicestyles
    @justicestyles Місяць тому +1

    Goff is top 10 … I still wouldn’t pay him … he does not play well in playoffs

    • @zaneplatt3533
      @zaneplatt3533 Місяць тому +5

      How? He has gotten to an NFC championship game and a Super Bowl? He has done more than or the same as Allan, Lamar, and Burrow.

    • @jaromari80
      @jaromari80 Місяць тому

      And he's already been paid so 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @justicestyles
      @justicestyles Місяць тому

      @@zaneplatt3533 look up his game by game playoff stats …

  • @TonyChase365
    @TonyChase365 Місяць тому

    Lions fan are embarrassing. Just say you love goff cause he's your QB. Stop tryna explain that goff is good it's cringe

    • @Aiden_Geddes
      @Aiden_Geddes Місяць тому +2

      You’re cringe Tony

    • @TonyChase365
      @TonyChase365 Місяць тому

      @Aiden_Geddes lol pathetic. Losing for so long got lions fans loving the under dog story of goff. Liking a man cause he got thrown away. But hating Stafford because he left a franchise that didn't help him lol. Lions fans don't live in reality and it's cool

    • @jaromari80
      @jaromari80 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@TonyChase365wtf are you even talking about Goff is good if you can't see that then you are just a out hater period

    • @TonyChase365
      @TonyChase365 Місяць тому

      @jaromari80 😂 ok buddy. Ben Johnson for president all I gotta say

    • @Ray-___-
      @Ray-___- Місяць тому

      @@TonyChase365 bro is so mad that an NFL team is having success, this makes you look even more pathetic tbh.

  • @L.O.C.1990
    @L.O.C.1990 Місяць тому

    love that he did this when most people are watching monday night statement

  • @Outlawed2078
    @Outlawed2078 Місяць тому +1

    They cheated the rams in that super bowl

  • @DirtyBeefCurtains
    @DirtyBeefCurtains Місяць тому

    Florio is a joke. 🤡