Mike Breen Opens Up About Calling The Malice At The Palace
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2023
- In this clip, Mike Breen talks about what it was like to call The Malice At The Palace between The Detroit Pistons and The Indiana Pacers.
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I will ALWAYS consume Malice in the Palace content
Fr, almost click bait at this point
It needs another doc. Just because.
Facts
If the NBA can quietly and gradually start making it like the WWE, their profits will go through the roof.
Set up fake fans with steel chairs, train players, coaches and the refs (especially the refs) how to take a hit and fall.
I'd watch that.
Haha truth!!
Imagine Mark Jackson calling the Malace in the Palace with Breenie... "Hands down MAN down!!!" 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mama there goes that Man!
Were witnessing greatness 😭🤣
“This is the greatest fight I’ve ever seen…. With all due respect”
@@OliTYOU BEAT ME TO IT! 🤣 🤣
Mike Breen got a calmness to his voice you don’t get to hear often
That's decades of training, practicing and performing in a profession where the number 1 asset is your voice.
He is the anti Stephen A Smitj
Love Breen. One of the best.
He talks like this when he comments at games, whatchu mean
Him and Clyde are awesome for Knicks games
😂 Mike said "I'm not new to this, I'm true to this"
Seriously tho, what an iconic voice. So cool to have him on the podcast and hear his perspective on some of the most wild NBA moments from the commentators chair
This is the type of content sports media shoulda BEEN, NEW MEDIAAA 🔥
Big EJ energy
I'm using that phrase.
@@vgdrent2852ask young thug for permission
His commentary when it happened was what I remember most
Jermaine O’Neal should be in the HOF for his performance that night alone
The sliding Mortal Combat punch can never be duplicated.
@Jalen Davis I'm from Detroit and if I ever see JO I'm dapping him up for that punch. His body and fist slid perfectly into the mexican dude 😭
@@jalenad11broke dude jaw and ain even connect all the way😂😂😂
@@jalenad11 facts lmaooo😭
@@jalenad11 Bro I've been calling it a Mortal Kombat punch over the years too 😂 half expected the dude's head to pop straight off
The fact that Jomboy hasn’t broken down Malice at the Palice yet is criminal
It’s kinda hard with maybe 3 camera angles he could find. This was a long time ago so idk. But I love jomboy
We as nba fans, we need more jomboy breakdowns 😉
Who cares. Jomboy is washed.
@@gli5580 wait til baseball szn bub
@@gli5580 how
Keep in mind that the flagrant foul didn't become a rule until 1990-1991.
And that's because MJ and dem cried lol
@@drphot6050 MJ never cried but had all the spotlight on him during those Knicks games. NBA couldn't continue playing like that.
@@hazza9595 Phil Jackson cried for him 😂
@@drphot6050 Always thought this was a bad take. I do agree the NBA wanted to increase scoring, but it was mostly the NBA didn't like the way the Pistons defended. The NBA loved the Lakers, Celtics, and Bulls, but the dynasty in between those three were unpopular and had to be curbed.
The irony, I think, is that successor to the Pistons style of play was the Riley Knicks and then Riley Heat, and the bruisers on those teams were a lot more muscly and hard hitting. I mean, would you rather fight Bill Laimbeer or Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, Alonzo Mourning, or PJ Brown? So even with the flagrant foul rules in place, guys were still finding ways to hit you hard.
@@hazza9595 He took a full page ad out of a newspaper to complain about what the Pistons were doing.
The old man and the three is such a gem…JJ is an incredible interviewer
For real. He makes everyone confortable to speak their point of view. Class act
mike breen is a true legend
Watched that game live. Never forget it. Jaw was on the floor for 20 min. I remember Artest scored 19(!) in the first quarter alone. They had won 60+ games the season before but lost to Detroit in a great series. Was rooting for them bc I wanted Reggie to get a ring before he retired. They looked great and were gonna get revenge against one of the best teams ever…and then their entire season burned right before my eyes live on ESPN.
Got a chance to meet Mike Breen a few years back. Truly the nicest and most humble person. We are lucky to have him call our knick games
by far the greatest play by play in the history off the NBA. pure class
Marv Albert
@@mysterion5136 hell no
One of a few sporting events that i watched live that i will never ever forget
Glad i get to watch these podcast in my early 20s help me understand the game more wish we had these back in the early 2010s
Now I gotta go and watch Malice at the Palace youtube videos again lol. Never gets old
I'm in the rabbit hole now
Such a great answer from Mike about how physical the game was due to rules
Thank you for the content! Just wanted to say appreciate for posting shorter clips like these too.
Mike politely said sure today's players are physically impressive but the league is soft and young guy's don't know how brutal it was back then.
I wish I could see the centers or even see a Lebronto onto the jackass fans in this sport
What soft? Lol. You acted like you bump a professional NBA Player and you said that their soft. 🤔 The Rules made them look like soft lol🤦
This soft. I mean this is the DPOY in 2022 at the highest stage of his career. ua-cam.com/video/nxEpUIE44p8/v-deo.html
@@razerPh and this soft. One of the best player right now at the highest stage of his career. ua-cam.com/video/s-Ncn56I9GA/v-deo.html
@@cudackedees3327 shut up doofies. You didn't even play professional sports🤔
I got chills just listening to the crowd part
Who here remembers watching the entire brawl live bc back then they didn’t cut to commercial for stuff like this?
Good commentary is one of those things you don’t appreciate as much until you watch the same clip/video without it or with a bad announcer
I can still hear him saying "NOW ARTEST IS IN THE STANDS!!" I was like 😲😲😲
People may not remember the analyst with Breen that night was Bill Walton-you can hear him at one point say “this is a disgrace”…
Great interview. Some life lessons, "because you just document..."
LMAO JJ claimed the game is as physical as it's ever been, but then contradicted himself by saying it's harder to play defense nowadays. Today's game is nothing like it was even 10 years ago because of how many rules have changed. Usage rates are so much higher now because offensive superstars are given much more FT attempts and open lanes because less physicality is allowed and thus they're not as gassed and bruised in order to give bench players more minutes.
Before I watched I subscribed my boy
Mike need a podcast, such a smooth voice without crowd noise in the background lol
People never talk about it but the refs really changed after that night. They started calling a lot more ticky tack calls and I blame that for the current state of refs in the NBA. They're afraid of this happening again.
Ikr I remember this was when I was In 7th grade and I love Ron Artest/Meta World Peace opinion on this malice on the Byron Scott Podcast
During the game, he goes off topic, and starts chatting about other things instead of call the game! I love to listen to Marv Albert! He was old school
You can tell the difference in the type of physicality by JJ Redick’s career.
****LeBron
Exactly!!!
I didn't appreciate Mike enough. He has better voice than I thought, he is consummate professional and has very good takes on everything.
I love how he disagrees yet providing great justification.
I cant even keep track of all the podcasts i agree its almost like a running joke now but one of my favorite thing about so many of these podcasts is we hear these behind the scenes type stuff or not well known stuff to some people
My favorite moment in sports history
If only this had come out last year when I wrote a research essay on Malice at the Palace
I appreciate that JJ watches old NBA games from the 80's and 90's but he didn't say Ewing/Oak/Mason Knicks or Bad Boy Pistons. Maybe leaguewide wasn't overly more physical but some teams were built to be punishing.
Yes, less talented teams had to be tough to win
@@calvinhobbes5524 Isiah Thomas and Patrick Ewing were HOF or injury the moment they entered the NBA. Dennis Rodman an all timer. Joe Dumars legend. Mark Jackson was a hell of a PG. Don't tell me they didn't have enough talent.
The media won't say this part but people should know that those fans were not your average Detroiters. The palace is far from the city and at that time most people from the city did not frequent those games. Those were spoiled brats for the most part throwing tantrums.
We love mike mannn
Genius move to end the video on Breen saying “defense if harder in the modern nba” now I gotta go watch the podcast to find out his justification.
Players being more skillful and athletic minus the handcheck makes it more harder.
Come on JJ, trade deadline recap and playoff prediction lets go!
I went to the Cavs v Pistons game after the Malice at the Palace
That rhoback hoodie is fire
The physicality question didn’t go JJ way 😂😂😂
he has a bit of delusion by the sounds of it 😂
Go look at Heat Checks 'Life sentence fouls' - a lot of horrible violent fouls in the modern game.
@@RajR96 you can tell the difference in how the game was played in the way JJ career took a turn. Doc took advantage of the rule changes and it turned JJ into an above average NBA player and allowed him to be a top 5-10 shooter of all time. I think he knows this. Maybe im a grumpy old man but im on Mike Breen side. NBA players aren’t soft the NBA game is soft. That’s why the best players in the league are Foreign players because they play the game like we used to play it. They learned to play like us to beat us. 🤷🏽♂️ now they are Punkin us and scoring on us like a never before #luka #Giannis
@@atomsk1972 those are just hard fouls…lol. 😂
I thought JJ's take was off. Vince Carter was asked a similar question, and since he played in the last era of hard fouls he had a unique insight. He agreed the game was more physical in his early years.
I saw it live on TV. It was mop up time and I almost changed the channel but I didn't! I was sooooo hype lol
This was a good question
You dont think the game is softer than it used to be??? Highschool ball in the early 2000's was way way way more physical than the NBA is now.
I think from what I see, refs allow more ‘physicality’ in the playoffs. But I do miss the rivalry between teams and players from 80’s and 90’s. Been listening to many podcasts and interesting to find out these players still hold grudges between each others 10,20 years later😂.
His voice is perfection
JJ wearing the rhoback hoodie can tell he’s playing a lot of golf bc no one else knows about that brand
1 of the best things to ever happen in the NBA
Pistons fans are forever a W for sticking together
Love the podcast, but to say the game is as physical today as the 80s 90s sound so ridiculous =D. This goes hand in hand with worsening defensive ratings, the rules have tilted too far towards the offense.
2015 the raptors had a game in Detroit. It was one of the first time sections of raptor fans showed up to a away game.
At the end of the game there was a hard foul on derozan the raptor fans started booing and the pistons players started screaming at them.
The security started freaking out because they thought they could have had a malice 2.0
My cousin and I were at that game.
His voice make the mics better lol
We were all lucky that back then the pistons weren't playing in Detroit. I truly believe if that happened in the D, there would've been much more severe injuries. Especially at that time in Detroit.
The palice was not in Detroit?
@@zachariasj2120
It was in Auburn Hills
Saw malice and went 😊
Bill Burr’s comedic bit about The Malice at the Palace will always be a classic!!! 🤷🏻♂️👍🏻😂
no lol
Let’s Get Negative ahhhhhhhh 😂😂😂
Had no idea Mike was so sarcastic lol
He a wise cracking New Yorker.
Ron Artest is so massive in that thumbnail 😱
I dont want to see people slamming people but I want to see better defense which involves more handchecking etc.
Goat
I remember Stephen Jackson trying to calm Ron Artest and then got attacked himself and laid dudes out, that was my favorite part
Players aren’t tryna lose their money, league would fine them like crazy for fighting
Mike and JJ have the same voice
How is jj riddick talkin to mike Breen when mike breen is usually the one talkin? Why does mike breen voice sound different also?
Jay Jay announces games now?
Reddick probably got mad that Breen didn’t agree with him when he asked him the physical question
players arent soft. theyre just careful.
It's harder to play defense because the rules more than ever is catered towards offense.
A lot of the people who like to say "they don't play any defense nowadays!!" can't seem to understand that the offense is at an all-time high, and good offense usually beats good defense.
Malice at the palace is better than NBA today
A rule change that would be good for the game and bring some balance back to a fair contest between offense and defense would be; if an offensive player initiates contact it's not a foul. As it stands the game is unwatchable to me. Large offensive numbers seems exciting but it's not when there isn't a fair contest. I want to see a fight, not a layup line and a march to the free throw line every time a defender breathes on the ball carrier.
Only reason 90s ball was more “physical” was because no one could actually guard up so they had to grab and hack and hold on for dear life. Y’all seen how AI had mj on skates.
It’s because handchecking and physicality was allowed not because they “couldn’t guard”. Why would they handicap themselves as defenders when they didn’t have to?
Not gonna lie I would start throwing bottles too if I spent money on tickets for a UFC match instead of a basketball game 😂
Dana Carvey could totally play Mike Breen in a movie 😂
Remember when Kevin McHale did a clothesline takedown of Kurt Rambis in the Finals? There was no flagrant fouls then, and McHale stayed in the game and played the rest of the series. These days, that's a Flagrant 2, automatic ejection, and likely suspension to follow. Alonzo Mourning once left a walnut-sized welt on Scottie Pippen's forehead. Common foul, no flagrant. These days, it's a flagrant 2, automatic ejection, minimum fine.
I totally agree with Breen on the hard fouls. You just can't play bully ball anymore. Anything hard today gets overly scrutinized. Players today are athletic freaks and I don't question their toughness, but back then you could use physical intimidation and punishment as deterrents in ways you simply can't now.
And lebron putting his head down and going through guys isnt bully ball?? when he lowers his head and shoulder into the players"?
Its tough because I like the physicality of the old NBA but I dont want the star player on my team breaking his hand on someones head and being out for months
As a Pacer fan I was pissed. They were a legit title contender. Ben Wallace was a punk, didn’t even got fouled that hard. Arrest couldn’t keep his cool, Reggie final year, everything crumbled after that
Ben Wallace had just had a death in the family. That’s why he was so worked up. 🤷🏻♂️
Not a lot of guys could of stayed cool.
And piston fans were gross. The way they acted
I agree Stern totally screwed the Pacers and Pistons got away with a slap on the wrist. But Wallace wasn't a punk he was just being emotional because of a loss he had at the time.
That fight honestly derailed Indiana’s franchise. They never came as close to a chip as they did back then
“Celtics fans are the trashiest fans in the NBA”
Pistons fans: Hold my liquid from the bottle I just launched at your head from point blank range
NBA's biggest hooligan moment ever!
Let’s Get Negative
It's too hard to play defence now. Kids call everything a foul. Would've loss my mind if I didn't find some old heads to play with lol.
Ron Artest left the game early because he wanted to beat the crowd
😂😂😂
JJ Reddit bought the set from Joe Rogan's studio and placed it vertically instead of horizontally...
Think the nba needs to add some illegal screens to the dirty column and fine/suspend players that flare their hip or elbow out when someone goes by
I don’t want the league to eventually become 1-2 players running around multiple screens every play just to shoot a 3
I love outside in, and the rules favor screens during the playoffs when the refs hold their whistles
Can see Tatum get smacked across the arm and get a no call, but see smart get a Charlie horse every screen and not get a call either. But one obviously has a higher % chance to go in
JJ Redick just got his myth debunked that the 80s & 90s were just as physical as now
Not really a myth. Only difference is the fouls were harder.
He's a clown
lets hope for some league changes so defense stands a chance lol
JJ is full of it
Paul George: *Makes a shot*
Mike Breen: This building has come alive! The lead has cut to six! Kawhi Leonard is going CRAZY!!
Kawhi: 😐😐😐😐😐
Whenever people talk about the physicality of the 80s and 90s and that today's players would get pushed around, like they would also be allowed to be more physical. Lebron might get fouled harder but he also is a physical freak that could play MORE physical defense, like he would manhandle guys
Manhandle guys like Karl Malone and Charles Oakley?? Rick Mahorn?? Anthony mason??
whose better? mike breen or kevin harlan
I have a slight preference for Harlan's voice but everything else including what he's saying and how he's saying it is where I give it to Breen.
Also Reggie and Kevin are good but the combination of Mike X Mark X Jeff is phenomenal
Initiate contact and draw fouls? You mean flopping ? The flopping is ridiculous in the #NBA
Honestly I saw why artest went nuts. Some stranger throws a full beer on him w/ all his nasty back wash germs plus it's so gross. However it was classless for artest to be lying on the scorers table like that. His coach needed to get him off. He was just laying there like he was at home on hos couch. So artrrst was brought low class( do u see magic bird mj or Ewing ever do that? )if Ron didn't go off & run in the stands that guy should have been arrested cause that's assault. Artiest obviously escalated that by flying into the stands & attacking some other dude for throwing it thinking it was him. The ref the coach a teammate someone should have made artest get off that table. So as much as that drunken fan doing that was disoicable u can't obviously as a player go attack a fan. Everyone involved acted horribly. I'm glad in many stasiums they stop serving booze in the 2nd half cause opposing fans esp when wasted become belligerent. No player deserves to be abused by a mob of fans.
That fan who threw the cup was charged with assault and banned for life from NBA games. You’re right about everything. Could also make the argument that Wallace overreacted to the foul from Artest.
JJ doesn't THINK the game is less physical? You don't need to think JJ, just open your friggin eyes man. It's not a matter of opinion.
Its not though. You morons watch a 3 minute youtube video of hard hits for decade and think thats how it was all the time.
@@calvinhobbes5524 Oh really? I'm watching NBA since 1997, all the world knows rules are catered to bring more points, and create easier offense and you claim it's not less physical? And going around calling people morons, look in the mirror fool you'll see the moron. What you're gonna claim next that water ain't wet? Yikes.
You're right. I think this is just another example of JJ trying to show love to todays game like when he ended up saying the early NBA players in the 1950s were 'plumbers and firemen'
@@silewis9396 Yeah he's just as biased as the people he mocks all the time. He just belongs to the other tribe. Seems to me he can say anything to shine whatever he's selling. Objective sports media? Please, these dudes misinforming deliberately.
Jj keeps trying to prove that the nba was not more physical back then than it is now. Give it up man no one agrees with you
We need more fights allowed in the game. Hire Joe Rogan to do the calls, and allow some MMA. 👌
in reality the guy that threw the beer on ron should have been charged, not the other way around.
side not: Mike Breen is a hood legend
They are called soft because they flop every 5 minutes
Because the refs will give them the call and they know it lol
The game is less physical and soft but that's mostly because the rules are softer.
Mike Breen is a nice guy but I hate listening to him do play by play, because he doesn’t, if you are not watching the game you don’t know what’s going on or who has the ball!