I know what musket I need and how to identify then two different types. Thanks for the video, just started looking for my piece yesterday. We have a Lorenz bayonet, just didn't know there were two types of them. Think I'm going to go with the Type 2 Lorenz
So, the Lorenz rifle was the second most imported rifle or the second most popular in use? As a retired confederate historical impressionists 1978--2007 it was many years before much of anything made it to our shores other than the zouave 2 bander ( hardly saw issue) & 1864 blued lock Springfield from japan...unless one was lucky enough to score an original piece. For the cap poppers mainstream folks from which level most everyone hailed from in the early days, only allow 3 bands on field due to safety. Nevertheless even during our journey thru the living history events few 2 banded rifled muskets are represented and usually just the naval Enfield 2 banners. Towards the end of the hobby Italy began to crank out all types of rifles & muskets common to the era. Our armory consisted of 1842 smooth Springfield musket, 1861 Springfield rifled & 1853 enfield...which pretty much covered anytime line. We had a 1763 charlieville 69 smooth musket which we converted to percussion for early war militia use...but sold it early on to a 1st- 2nd seminole war hobbyist..while our original zouave, purchased from sears roebuck in kit, was converted to socket bayonet as were many mississippi rifles were in early war..(see article camp chase gazette on 1842 & socket up grade). which was sold along with an original 1842 musket bayonet purchased from DGW long before repros were available...ah..the good old days.... Hopefully the hobby will recover from the rewrite of history during our in & out socialist regime changes... Peace!
Interesting, I had now idea that this was the 2nd most popular CW rifle. Thanks Jason for sharing ... extra points of you can get some footage of this at the shooting range. *LIKED* the video pards.
Thank you for the suggestion! We are looking at doing more weapons related videos showing originals. We will take your suggestion into account! I like it. Thanks again!
@@CivilWarDigitalDigest I have only seen that one video. A series on Civil War weapons starting with the most common long guns, then pistols would be great. I lot of subject matter so likely you would have to break it down to different videos. What interests me is the Confederate side of it all- sure though there are Federals out there! As the Great Seal of the Confederacy says on it- "Deo Vindice"
Fantastic episode Will; just fantastic!! First Rate. Very informative and wondering if you have knowledge of a good repro. Lorenz Rifle maker (s)?? Most informative was the fact that the Austrians made a type l & type ll with all of the variations of caliber (s). Again a real First Rate episode Will
The Rifle Shoppe offers a kit gun that would require assembly. Pedersoli has their own reproduction, which although is easily available, is not perfect.
I recently found a Lorenz rifle bayonet socket that appears to have had a modification made past the socket band extending to the end which looks manufactured. Was this extended cut made to adapt to American weaponry or did they have common issues of sockets sticking to the rifle and having to make a modified cut to slide the socket off? If you need a photo of what I'm talking about please let me know. Thank you.
Shoot us message with pixmctures at Agents Campbell and Pelican's Military Goods. I think you may have a post-CW Austrian bayonet that is very similar to the m1854 Lorenz.
I know what musket I need and how to identify then two different types. Thanks for the video, just started looking for my piece yesterday. We have a Lorenz bayonet, just didn't know there were two types of them. Think I'm going to go with the Type 2 Lorenz
So, the Lorenz rifle was the second most imported rifle or the second most popular in use? As a retired confederate historical impressionists 1978--2007 it was many years before much of anything made it to our shores other than the zouave 2 bander ( hardly saw issue) & 1864 blued lock Springfield from japan...unless one was lucky enough to score an original piece. For the cap poppers mainstream folks from which level most everyone hailed from in the early days, only allow 3 bands on field due to safety. Nevertheless even during our journey thru the living history events few 2 banded rifled muskets are represented and usually just the naval Enfield 2 banners.
Towards the end of the hobby Italy began to crank out all types of rifles & muskets common to the era.
Our armory consisted of 1842 smooth Springfield musket, 1861 Springfield rifled & 1853 enfield...which pretty much covered anytime line. We had a 1763 charlieville 69 smooth musket which we converted to percussion for early war militia use...but sold it early on to a 1st- 2nd seminole war hobbyist..while our original zouave, purchased from sears roebuck in kit, was converted to socket bayonet as were many mississippi rifles were in early war..(see article camp chase gazette on 1842 & socket up grade). which was sold along with an original 1842 musket bayonet purchased from DGW long before repros were available...ah..the good old days....
Hopefully the hobby will recover from the rewrite of history during our in & out socialist regime changes...
Peace!
I'm the proud owner of a pair of type one, Lorenz rifles with matching bayonets.Very fine rifle muskets!
Thing Two rules !
A 54 Lorenz was my first ever collected CW Rifle
Do you still have that one? Will
Several Michigan infantry regiments had the Lorenz but by the middle of 1864 they were replaced by Springfields and/or Enfields.
Great job guys keep it up
Interesting, I had now idea that this was the 2nd most popular CW rifle. Thanks Jason for sharing ... extra points of you can get some footage of this at the shooting range. *LIKED* the video pards.
2nd most Imported. (after the Enfield)
Not 2nd most popular.
Have fun with this guns! I hope they will serve you well. Greetings from Austria! ;)
I just bought a new original myself. Thanks for checking in!! Will
Very well done- enjoyed the CSA uniform. Minor suggestion- add in a market value for everything explained and shown with current date mentioned.
Thank you for the suggestion! We are looking at doing more weapons related videos showing originals. We will take your suggestion into account! I like it. Thanks again!
@@CivilWarDigitalDigest I have only seen that one video. A series on Civil War weapons starting with the most common long guns, then pistols would be great. I lot of subject matter so likely you would have to break it down to different videos. What interests me is the Confederate side of it all- sure though there are Federals out there! As the Great Seal of the Confederacy says on it- "Deo Vindice"
Great video! Couldn’t help but notice the CDV framed picture! Would love to know how that was designed!
Ask that question a different way, so I understand better, please. That image is an original.
Fantastic episode Will; just fantastic!! First Rate. Very informative and wondering if you have knowledge of a good repro. Lorenz Rifle maker (s)?? Most informative was the fact that the Austrians made a type l & type ll with all of the variations of caliber (s). Again a real First Rate episode Will
The Rifle Shoppe offers a kit gun that would require assembly. Pedersoli has their own reproduction, which although is easily available, is not perfect.
My unit was issued with the Lorenz! 63rd PAV!
Such a common weapon at the start. Such a common theme. Hope you enjoy this one! Will
My unit was as well. 6th New Hampshire.
My Great Great Great Grandfather's unit as well. 5th NJ Vol. Infantry (co A)
Hi Will!
Darn I thought you’d touch on the 1849 Austrian musket also known as the garibaldi
The iron brigade of Wisconsin also used these. I wonder if any Dreyse needle rifles were imported?
The answer to that is almost definitely no, actually not even almost pretty much definitely no
War would of been over awfully fast if the Union wasn't trying to save cash.
I recently found a Lorenz rifle bayonet socket that appears to have had a modification made past the socket band extending to the end which looks manufactured. Was this extended cut made to adapt to American weaponry or did they have common issues of sockets sticking to the rifle and having to make a modified cut to slide the socket off? If you need a photo of what I'm talking about please let me know. Thank you.
Shoot us message with pixmctures at Agents Campbell and Pelican's Military Goods. I think you may have a post-CW Austrian bayonet that is very similar to the m1854 Lorenz.
1866 Austrian mad lads on their way to destroy Chad Prussians with Dreyses
2022.
How much is it in 2023?
If you are asking about the cost of an original, it will depend on the condition.