Hey man. Wanted to thank you for this video. You saved me a lot of cash. I took a chance on the AT875R and was genuinely surprised by its performance and sound quality. It really didn’t need that much gain and is so quiet and really rejects so much sound in my untreated room. I didn’t need to do anything in post for what I use it for, so a million thank yous. Appreciate you.
Thanks for this. I have both mics, and recently I've been using the AT875R overhead for MS Teams and Zoom meetings. Much as I love the SM7B, I find that it works best close-up from one side -- so the SM78 makes part of my shoulder and chest disappear, when using Team's background effects. The AT875R gives me very good sound from overhead, without any of those visual glitches.
Yeah I find that with work meeting I like using a shotgun mic too. It doesn't grab as much attention. Otherwise people will often ask if you have a dynamic up on your grill.
If it's a treated space go for a used NT1 4th gen (the black one). But if you insist on new I'd probably go for the Nt1 signature, works better in a treated space. But I do like the NT1 4th gen much better. It's slightly smoother.
So you can't just plug the SM7B into an interface and crank the gain to where it needs to be? Isn't the gain in those designed to be low noise, since they deal with weak-signal microphones?
It depends on the interface and the speaker and the use-case as well as the standards. Newer interfaces in particular WITHOUT the need for additional software or digital gain, ie ID4 Mark 2, SSL2, MOTU M2, will work just fine without a Cloudlifter and with a good noise floor. I generally aim for a noise floor at the very least at -60 DB and not all interfaces will give you that with an SM7B. Also everyone speaks at different volumes at well. If it's a soft-spoken speaker, they almost always have issues as opposed to a louder speaker. Also 'cranking the gain to the max' leads to many other other problems depending on the audio interface.
@@Dracomies I learned from another video comparing the 7B to the 58 that the 7B doesn't include a built-in transformer (like the 58/57) to avoid coloring the output, and that's why it's so quiet. Thanks for the insights on newer vs. older interfaces; I figured they'd all have a pretty standard gain range, but it does make sense for some to have more, etc.
@@RAndrewNeal Yip! I also tend to have a differing opinion - but also my standards are for voiceover - and not for streaming - which are much much strict on noise floor.. So for me it's not whether or not an interface can 'run' an SM7B. It's whether it can run it clean with at least -60 DB noise floor. Ideally I like an EIN of -129 DB. There's only a few that hit that mark and those are the SSL2, ID4 Mark 2, MOTU M2. And gain range. Shure SM7B's sensitivity is 1.1 mV/Pa or a sensitivity of -59 DB. So just to avoid that hiss, you'd need an interface that has at least 59 DB of gain. Can you run it with a cheap inteface like an MTrack Solo or equivalent, maybe. But it won't be clean. But for sure, interfaces with high gain range and low EIN don't need cloudlifters. But yep, not all interfaces can run them - well - despite what some UA-camrs may say.
The whole video is excellent, but I have to disagree on one point, where you strongly say how well the AT875R rejects side-noise. I keep mine at a modest gain level, and it still picks up birds chirping outside, the dog barking downstairs, the washing machine, etc. I guess I am spoiled by mainly using dynamics like the SM7B. But as I said in another post, I'm using it for Teams or Zoom meetings, and the default noise-rejection of those programs is enough to silence the unwanted background sounds, so the end result is great.
It won't reject as well as a dynamic microphone for sure but it does very well for its size and weight. I think it rejects better than a lot of the condensers I have.
Hey man. Wanted to thank you for this video. You saved me a lot of cash. I took a chance on the AT875R and was genuinely surprised by its performance and sound quality. It really didn’t need that much gain and is so quiet and really rejects so much sound in my untreated room. I didn’t need to do anything in post for what I use it for, so a million thank yous. Appreciate you.
Thanks for this. I have both mics, and recently I've been using the AT875R overhead for MS Teams and Zoom meetings. Much as I love the SM7B, I find that it works best close-up from one side -- so the SM78 makes part of my shoulder and chest disappear, when using Team's background effects. The AT875R gives me very good sound from overhead, without any of those visual glitches.
Yeah I find that with work meeting I like using a shotgun mic too. It doesn't grab as much attention. Otherwise people will often ask if you have a dynamic up on your grill.
More similar SM7B alternative, though maybe not better, is
SM57 with Shure A81WS.
I'd gladly see a comparison between those three, with windscreens.
I use the Audio-Technica AT875R
Great video of the AT875r mic! Really considering getting it, what kind of shock mount are you using on it in your video and do you recommend?
I can't remember but I think it was the Movo SMM1. You can connect it to a On-Stage DS7200B
great,, really great,, i'm thinking about picking this up
did you do any post processing with it?
This is RAW - Gordon Ramsay
Thanks for the video. I'm kind of debating between the At875R or an Nt-1 signature for voice overs while being in a treated room. What do you suggest?
If it's a treated space go for a used NT1 4th gen (the black one). But if you insist on new I'd probably go for the Nt1 signature, works better in a treated space. But I do like the NT1 4th gen much better. It's slightly smoother.
@@Dracomies Thanks a lot for this. I appreciate it.
Wow
So you can't just plug the SM7B into an interface and crank the gain to where it needs to be? Isn't the gain in those designed to be low noise, since they deal with weak-signal microphones?
It depends on the interface and the speaker and the use-case as well as the standards. Newer interfaces in particular WITHOUT the need for additional software or digital gain, ie ID4 Mark 2, SSL2, MOTU M2, will work just fine without a Cloudlifter and with a good noise floor. I generally aim for a noise floor at the very least at -60 DB and not all interfaces will give you that with an SM7B. Also everyone speaks at different volumes at well. If it's a soft-spoken speaker, they almost always have issues as opposed to a louder speaker. Also 'cranking the gain to the max' leads to many other other problems depending on the audio interface.
@@Dracomies I learned from another video comparing the 7B to the 58 that the 7B doesn't include a built-in transformer (like the 58/57) to avoid coloring the output, and that's why it's so quiet. Thanks for the insights on newer vs. older interfaces; I figured they'd all have a pretty standard gain range, but it does make sense for some to have more, etc.
@@RAndrewNeal Yip! I also tend to have a differing opinion - but also my standards are for voiceover - and not for streaming - which are much much strict on noise floor.. So for me it's not whether or not an interface can 'run' an SM7B. It's whether it can run it clean with at least -60 DB noise floor. Ideally I like an EIN of -129 DB. There's only a few that hit that mark and those are the SSL2, ID4 Mark 2, MOTU M2. And gain range. Shure SM7B's sensitivity is 1.1 mV/Pa or a sensitivity of -59 DB. So just to avoid that hiss, you'd need an interface that has at least 59 DB of gain. Can you run it with a cheap inteface like an MTrack Solo or equivalent, maybe. But it won't be clean. But for sure, interfaces with high gain range and low EIN don't need cloudlifters. But yep, not all interfaces can run them - well - despite what some UA-camrs may say.
The whole video is excellent, but I have to disagree on one point, where you strongly say how well the AT875R rejects side-noise. I keep mine at a modest gain level, and it still picks up birds chirping outside, the dog barking downstairs, the washing machine, etc. I guess I am spoiled by mainly using dynamics like the SM7B. But as I said in another post, I'm using it for Teams or Zoom meetings, and the default noise-rejection of those programs is enough to silence the unwanted background sounds, so the end result is great.
It won't reject as well as a dynamic microphone for sure but it does very well for its size and weight. I think it rejects better than a lot of the condensers I have.