I’m English, and I hate the DUP. The only hope for NI now is to reunify with the rest of Ireland. Let’s hope that whatever happens it stays peaceful 🇬🇧🇮🇪
I'm Irish and I wouldn't want a United Ireland and many I know wouldn't because there's at least roughly half the population of Northern Ireland who are unionists and war would probably start in the whole of Ireland because of the unionists who would know doubt object it going to all extremes they can to do so. Who would want war!!???? Isn't it just better the way it is now!
I'm annoyed that News night decided to sensor the sectarian political slogan, I think it is so important that people living in main land Britain can see the damage that has been unleashed in Belfast as a result of Brexshit.
What a spectacularly ill-informed comment. I’m from a Border area and grew up with The Troubles, but even by the low, pitiful standards by which non-Island of Ireland people seem to know anything about this shared island of ours, Your comment stands out as particularly wrong.
You say Unionists, but us Unionists did not want this. We wanted to remain just as much as you did. Our parties simply betrayed us. I have always voted Alliance (not that I’ve been able to vote while we had a real government) I didn’t want any border, I wanted to keep Northern Ireland as is.
@@jkkennedy9280 right? They probably celebrated and laughed. Gross. There is still prejudice against us in 2019 smh english needa see the truth we dont hate people unless they are actively racist. I had many english friends growing up.
@uildanach2010 so all that money is separated in between everyone? So every day living is not way higher in ireland? Ireland have free health care does it?
@uildanach2010 see you assume a lot I don't claim to be British have I made that claim you biggot, so say you lost your job and have to go on benefits till you find work who look after their people better? Same with disabilities? You think brexit is going to fail this is your speculation. Ireland is basically owned by Europe this is fact.
I wouldn’t mind seeing a United Ireland, but we need to plan and wait a few years for it. If not, we could get ourselves into an even bigger mess than Brexit
There are 200,000 British people living down here in the South and they dont seem to have any problems. Why would be different for people from NI that have that identity?
@Jack The Film Fanatic America and europe would back the irish state if that was to happen and the UK wouldnt be able to intervene to keep good relations with the yanks so yeah it could be a messy situation alright. Best for everyone to just wait and see what happens in Scotland this time next year.
@@AlanWattResistance when they have to refurbish it they should just knock it down imo. I don't understand why they never thought of using the original parliament building again
@Jack The Film Fanatic they will try and do what they done in 1918-21 which is to force British Unionists/protestants to become Irish or go back to Britain.
@@ulsterscotsman6648 by "force," do you mean vote? Most people would define force as importing German guns, to obstruct the democratic process. Like the unionists did in 1918-21.
@@paulduffy4585 Hello jack, Ulster Scots man and O'Kane. Gentlemen, can we not go there please? It's a dead end. Ask yourselves what is best for the children of Northern Ireland and work together towards that. No future in the past.
Northern Ireland is slowly moving away from the england, unionists party got the most votes in the last years and imagine this border and checks on the sea between ireland and England... Uk is slowly dying, we witness the end of the greatest union in the world and the rise of the new one
@@benfarmer-webb1016 Whoever you are, if you move to Wales, appreciate the culture, learn some words, then you can consider yourself Welsh tbh. People are really accepting when it comes to that
Kip Dynamite I think his honesty is admirable. If it were the politicians who for the past three years have not being doing their job due to sectarian attitudes, they’d deny the fact of the matter and claim the question itself is stoking an old flame.
Loyalists are going to have to get their head around the fact that they are fast becoming a minority. Moderate Unionist seem to have accepted this fact ,if reluctantly.
Kevin Barry you’re under the assumption that Protestants and only Protestants = unionists. Sure Protestants will make up 33% with the ne t generation. But your forget that most atheists are from a Protestant unionist stock. And will most likely vote that way. Therefore in reality it’s still 50-50.
What do Irish in the republic as well as northern feel about unification? Kind of curious how average people in the country and northern uk territory feel about unification.
Our voices don't get heard in the UK, the union is going to fall apart soon so I think it's time we stop trying to delay it. My life won't be any different anyway and Ireland does have a pretty good health care system
The DUP and loyalism has kept the peaceful development of the north of Ireland in the dark age's, now is the time for change, a united Ireland is the only answer.
@@mickricke3762 Northern Ireland was light years ahead of the republic until you fuckers started your shit. Glad that you acknowledge that you are full of hate though. The hate always came from the Nationalist. They always hated us for the success we made of NI after 1921, that's why they kept on killing people when they got the chance. Bombs in England killing shoppers, shooting policemen, siding with Hitler. You hated us for our PRIDE. No wonder. I must have stung that while your lot got 4 fifths of the Island in 1921 peace treaty, southerners could hardly afford toilet paper to wipe their arses with for 50 years.
@@dixienormous8559 you can't see the forest for the trees. You'll never see the truth, it was loyalists who started the troubles burning out Catholics from their homes, and it was loyalists who murdered the first policeman. But all that's about to change ask Arlene what planes she's made for a united Ireland, she's already made it public she won't be staying, and has bought her house in Scotland. Only Two years till nationalists are the majority, and unionists won't know what's hit them. Sinn fein wants to welcome unionists into a united Ireland but it'll be the political wing of the new ira that'll sweep the shinners aside as nationalists are fed up with the soft sf, and are itching to get at the hard line loyalists and give them a taste of their own medicine. There will he a united Ireland and sooner than you think.
@Jack The Film Fanatic don't you worry about sinn fein, they won't be the party after a united Ireland as nationalists are already fed up with their softly softly approach with the DUP. The political wing of the new IRA are already set to take over.
Can I remind how Brits Olympic team called? Team GB. That means nema of the island on which England located, but Ireland is the other island. So Team GB doesn't represent NI on Olympic games.
When Blair engineered the good Friday agreement ,it was so the six counties should rule themselves , that semi - detached them from the union, while England Wales. Scotland remained under union rule. Boris by putting a border between n.i. And u.k. Has in fact detached n.i. They are now outside the u.k. 6 counties in limbo --- waiting for the day that the Catholic majority vote for an all Ireland , one question " who will govern them if stormont fails to do so"?
Jack The Film Fanatic Really but I doubt Ulster Scots Presbyterians will vote for United Ireland SF/IRA bombed so much that to vote for United Ireland would be humiliating are some Presbyterians considering United Ireland.
There is a large amount of unionists in the north that are hateful, backward thinking , and opposed to even things that can benefit the north . They are thinking about themselves not their children’s future . Sad times
Checkacheckayeeeup You do realize that the exact same could be said about the North’s version of Republicans? Neither set of the North’s Unionists or Republicans are wanted in our Republic - they’re all welcome to live with and among us as long as they behave and keep their political opinions to themselves, but otherwise they’re Not the same as Us.
Ver Coda I don’t agree with what you said at all . They are absolutely wanted in our unified Ireland . But what should be pointed out Is that times are changing and so should the the old rhetoric of us against them like those two boys at the end . The way forward is thinking forward , not looking into the past because it will get us nowhere .
I get that you truly believe that, but it simply isn’t true. Sure, we have the DUP which is somehow still a party people vote for. We also have Sinn Fein, which again is a wonder why people vote for them. Idiots vs murderers. Not a great choice. I’m a Unionist and I vote Alliance or UUP (not UUP this time though) I have had to vote for Alliance and the SDLP because I don’t want Brexit. I sound like a Nationalist and you know, it sucks, I want to be able to vote for a party which totally represents my opinions, but I don’t have that luxury clearly.
Ruth Watson No Ruth it’s absolutely true you are completely wanted in a United ireland , our Ireland , our combined history is what makes Ireland . I know the politics in the north are so complicated and are based on us versus them still but the partition of Ireland has caused this endless war of us versus them , catholic versus Protestant and where are the English when you need them , nowhere running anyway from the problem of our north and hoping it will sort itself out . They have never cared about it and how they are handling brexit has proved that . A United ireland would be a economic powerhouse in Europe and the world . I don’t think it’s time for a vote yet but at least let’s have a conversation about what it could potentially look it like , not just in the north , a north , south conversation . Let’s prosper together .
Checkacheckayeeeup I respect your opinion, and I clearly agree that Westminster is just a bunch of buffoons who don’t give a flying squirrel about Northern Ireland. However, I don’t want to lose my culture. I enjoy having pound sterling, I love my NHS (yes even with all of its issues), I don’t want Irish road signs because I’m not Irish. If we became Ireland, I couldn’t say I was Northern Irish, because I like dealing with facts. I would feel like I was losing my entire identity.
How did Nothern Ireland ever get called Northern Ireland which Implies that it's all of the North of Ireland in the Uk when the furthest Northern point in Ireland is in the Republic (Donegal) as seen on the UA-cam front cover. Should have been called North East of Ireland. I'm sure Donegal in the NW of Ireland has suffered because of this misuse of title.
I’m a Unionist. But it’s hard to truly say that nowadays. This will be my 3rd time voting in just 2 years since I turned 18. I have never voted DUP, most of us young Unionists hate the DUP and everything they stand for. We want to stay in the EU and we wanted same sex marriage. However, we didn’t want abortion to be a total free for all. We were not asked, our government was not asked. We don’t even have the basic right of a voice because our government hasn’t sat for years. I have not voted once at a time when we had a government. Our country voted to remain, and yet the main Unionist parties are now campaigning leave. Who have I to vote for that has views in line with my own? My only real option is Alliance, and they would be pro choice. Now I’m not saying we didn’t need to change the law on that, we did. But not to what it is now. There needs to be strict guidelines because these are children’s lives we are talking about. I am forced to vote Alliance and then the two main Nationalist parties because I feel that the Unionist parties have totally destroyed any respect I had for them (well, the UUP anyway, I never had any respect for the DUP). I don’t want a United Ireland, but Westminster totally ignores us as a country. It’s entirely focused on England and maybe Wales. Scotland is forgotten about, but Northern Ireland is like the ugly middle child who they never wanted. They don’t have a government? Ah well, we won’t actually do something and stop their pay so they start working, not too worried about that lot. Let’s force through some legislation they have no say on and dock the pay a teeny bit. Let’s also not worry about essential projects and other things which would help the citizens out, who cares about them? Sure are they not Ireland? Let’s also not worry about the peace process and putting borders that neither community wants. The English government could not care less. And I say English, because they do not truly govern the UK, it’s all about England for them. Scotland is lucky to have a strong voice in the SNP that stands up for them. We don’t even have that. I want to stay in the EU and in the UK, but I don’t want to be cast aside and forgotten like we have been. I shouldn’t be forced to vote for murderers over Brexiteers! I don’t honestly think that a United Ireland would be good for us either. I love the NHS, I love my country, I don’t want it to become just Ireland because I am not Irish or British and I never will be.
Vote for murders? Are you unaware that most loyalist parties in NI are formed from loyalist terrorist groups that killed the most amount of civilians during the troubles, which btw was funded by British army? NHS is just as bad as the republic healthcare in fact it has longer waiting times.
The Magnificent Creep Actually, the statistics say that the Republican groups killed more than the British forces and the loyalists combined. I wouldn’t vote for the loyalist TUV anyway, does anyone? Sinn Fein publicly supported and collaborated with IRA. Their party is entirely made up of people who murdered and maimed, that is not the case for the main Unionist parties. Don’t get me wrong, the NHS isn’t perfect and it needs help, but free healthcare is a right and I enjoy it.
@@thePipeBandEnthusiast No idea where you got that statistic from but, according to the academic sources iv'e read the majority of civilians where killed by the uvf and uda who clouded with the British government.Of course this wasn't just confined to the North of the border, the republic had a few big scares by loyalist terrorists such as the Dublin and Monaghan bombings. civilians and soldiers are two different things, you should not confuse the two, I'm not trying to condone what the IRA did just pointing out the facts here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles#Casualties The NHS doesn't seem practicality good to me the wait times are insane even compared to the Republic, I have never had any issues with medical care here. I get what you're saying though and again if you feel that's a deal breaker for you than so be it Ruth.
@@thePipeBandEnthusiast As for the SF being made up of murders, most of the members of SF who were part of the IRA are dead by now, McGuinness passed away recently, and Adams stepped down. The current SF had nothing to do with the new IRA.
@Jack The Film Fanatic In all due respect you don't have a good grasp of the history of the troubles, please read the article on Wikipedia properly. 60% includes British solders not civilian's, the actual statistics according to Malcolm Sutton's Index of Deaths from the Conflict in Ireland. Of those killed by British security forces: (~51.2%) were civilians Of those killed by loyalist paramilitaries: (~85.5%) were civilians Of those killed by republican paramilitaries: (~52.5% were civilians. Combining the total number of civilians killed by loyalists and the British army which colluded together is greater than the IRA. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles#Casualties I urge Ruth to read the article if she hasn't already.
We don’t like the DUP, we don’t want to leave the EU. We are forced to vote Nationalist parties even though we don’t want a United Ireland. We want to stay NI. In the UK, in the EU, a separate country. The unionist parties have entirely failed us. We now vote Alliance.
@@thePipeBandEnthusiast I don't blame them the DUP was a sectarian bigoted joke from its very creation. I read somewhere that unionists are of the aging demographic, although, not all obviously, but in this case I think ye could expect unionism to be a minority in 10 years. Right now the republican and unionist demographics are pretty much neck and neck. Personally If I was a unionist I would jump on the idea of a united Ireland, take your share in the true republic, while you still can. This is a opportunity for you to shape a new country and have your voice heard, in your current situation you're just ignored because of how irrelevant you're to the British, but in a united Ireland you would be a sizable minority, you would have real say in how your country is run and not just getting orders from london.
The Magnificent Creep I don’t know that we would have a real say, I don’t believe it would be any better. I don’t agree that unionists are mainly older people. There may be many of them, but there are more of us young Unionists than you would thing, although we are some very frustrated people.
Jack The Film Fanatic UUP aren’t remain. Sinn Fein is below the others but sadly above DUP. I hate that it’s come to this, but I don’t realistically have a choice.
The Loyalist vote numerically is in decline and will thankfully be replaced with forward and progressive thinking people who are interested in making Northern Ireland a modern country where religious bigotry shall be frowned upon and replaced by real political parties that aspire to maintain an educated functioning and financially stable society for everyone equally.
Option 1 : R OF Ireland - RESOLUTION Road map 1 North Ireland independent vote - Leave UK 2 Ireland united with North Ireland 3 United Ireland Join EU 4 United Ireland sign customer agreement with UK - no hard boarder. 5 EU citizenship travel to United Ireland needs follow UK rule in terms o free move in UK. 6 United Ireland plays a buffer zone to UK with EU given the geographic strength.
Given that North Ireland would like to stay in EU but UK pro Brexit, therefore this reflect the majority of the North Ireland people's willingness and beneficial to Ireland given tat Ireland will geographically united its land which was occupied by King of England for many years. UK will benefit for not entering into hard wall/War with Ireland and its across straight neighbors EU members.
Unity would take the venom out of the Irish. Venom which has made you formidable. Be careful what you wish for I say. The friction between the unionists in the North and main land Ireland does give the country a certain special consideration. Leverage. The UK regularly has to make concessions to maintain peace and stability in Ireland. Personally I think you would lose more than you gain. Negotiating with one unified Ireland would have advantages for Britain. Would not want to see unified Ireland while Brits in Northern Ireland bravely support the union. I can understand heads been turned by the poor showing of British MP's. I'm English an if I could devource parliament I absolutely would. They are utterly shameless. But I'm a democrat. The union needs to be an attractive Union we can sell, which people want to willingly be part of. Our MP's are consistently failing to make the case for a stronger UK. If a vote comes. I hope it is taken in good faith and respected by all. But I fear the worst.
@Anthony Burke fucksake. One more time... In acknowledgment/recognisation of past historical issues. The UK regularly has to back down and make concessions to Ireland. Fact. Even though the history is unchangable. By anyone. An very few alive today carry blame for it. If Ireland were independent such favourable treatment would surely stop. You would just be another country to deal with. Clearly we are not really disagreeing here are we. The blame game serves Ireland well.
@Anthony Burkebless ya. your not really understanding a word been said. We have made a great many concessions to maintain peace in Ireland. Upto and including releasing terrorists. Something not all of us agreed with. I might add. It's you that need to drag your knuckles down to the library and read some history. That's why Ireland maintain the rediculous blame game. Can people in 2019 still be worked up about Oliver Cromwell? Really ? It's like the English sat pissing an moaning about the Vikings. It's rediculous. All about leverage. It is very much a game. Carry on. Just like SNP if you let your politicians blame UK for everything nothing good will come of it. Your MP's just have a ready made excuse for everything.
@Anthony Burke peaceful since 1920 my arse. Are you just trolling or are you this thick ? I'd say not carpet bombing the shit out of Ireland an persueing a peace process instead. Was a concession. Your gonna have too fuck off because I'm starting to think Cromwell was right.
@Jack The Film Fanatic Aren't they so kind to have bequeath us with the Free State... How very British of you to see the transition of Ireland to finally being a self governing independent nation; which was fought for centuries to achieve.. as being a concession made by Britain.... Maybe Churchill didn't invade Ireland during WW2 as he threatened to do was a concession too? Bigger countries threatening their smaller neighbours with invasion... where have we heard about that occurring during WW2 before? The Good Friday Agreement is in relation to bringing peace to the north of Ireland (which is currently part of the UK) and stop the bombings in Britain... in what way is it a concession to Ireland?
I'm not from Britain or Ireland but I don't understand the terminology used in regards to this conflict. I mean why don't Catholic people in Northern Ireland simply say that they are Irish, and the Protestants say that they are English (if Anglican) or Scottish (if Presybiterian), why call them just Catholics and Protestants, I mean as far as I understand this is a ethno-national and political conflict, and only marginally a religious one
It's not a religious conflict at all. The only reason we sometimes generalize all Protestants living here as unionist is because unionism first came to Ireland during the Ulster plantations whenever the British were stealing native land and selling it to anglo-scotti Protestants
@@stairnaheireann1445 yes, I know that, but how do the Protestants view themselves ethno-nationally? Is it just as British, or is there still a divide bettwen the English and the Scots in Northern Ireland?
What the final result was DUP 8 Sinn Fein 7 SDLP 2 Alliance1 Nationalists have 9 seats while Unionists have only 8 seats This put the anti Brexit camp & Nationalist winning control with 9 seats over the 8 seats the unionist have The boarder poll will be coming & everyone needs to adapt & see what happens The biggest result saw Dodds if the DUP losing his seat to Finnegan of Sinn Fein Dodds has been a long term DUP MP now it’s a seat that’s taken by a Nationalist
In Northern Ireland you have two populations: The Irish & the British. They speak different languages & practice different Faith Traditions. The British are newcomers, were never fully assimilated, & need to go home.
Éamonn Síoċáin “new comers” we’ve been here for 400 years. We’ve Plowed the fields, we’ve built the roads, we’ve built the country. The entirety of Ulster (all 9 counties) would be much less economically and socially developed if it wasn’t for the Ulster Scots. And the British and the Irish here don’t speak separate languages. Only 3% speak Irish up here.
Well this is entirely false. Northern Ireland has Northern Irish people. Not British, because that would mean GB which is actually just the mainland, NI is part of the UK, not GB. And not Irish, because that would mean the republic of Ireland, and we are a separate country from that. I don’t think newcomers is a great way to phrase that, would you say the same of other refugees and immigrants? Given that we were all born here, as were our parents and grandparents and their parents and grandparents, I don’t believe that that quite fits this situation. I am home. Northern Ireland is my home. Not Ireland, not Great Britain, Northern Ireland.
@@thePipeBandEnthusiast NI is not a country Ruth, it can't survive on its own and has no history. It's a failed British colony. Whiter or not you're native Irish, Scottish or English, we're all Irish on this island we are to small to be cut into little pieces, when you go outside of Ireland you're Irish, not British. UI represents a chance to build a truly great nation, to throw out the trash of bigotry and create something special. Why waste it on silly 17th century feuds.
Look at the cultural differences between Catholic and Protestant countries. Ideas are important, they can change how a society operates, which is why people always fight over ideas, whether religious or political.
Yay! They'll never beat the Irish! "Come out ye Black and Tans, come out and fight me like a man, Show your wife how you won medals down in Flanders, Tell them how the IRA made you run like hell away From the green and lovely lanes of Killashandra"
@@patrickn8235 we'll just pay for it out of the 45 billion we won't be paying Britain, only to receive a piddling 10 billion so called subsidie. I think you'll find it can only get better.
I’m English, and I hate the DUP. The only hope for NI now is to reunify with the rest of Ireland. Let’s hope that whatever happens it stays peaceful 🇬🇧🇮🇪
Ross Patterson indeed. Here’s for peace between the UK and the Ivory Coast.
Jonny Walker whoops😂
Nuclar Random Show recent polls suggest otherwise
@@jonnywalker5361 phahahaha gottem
I'm Irish and I wouldn't want a United Ireland and many I know wouldn't because there's at least roughly half the population of Northern Ireland who are unionists and war would probably start in the whole of Ireland because of the unionists who would know doubt object it going to all extremes they can to do so. Who would want war!!???? Isn't it just better the way it is now!
I'm annoyed that News night decided to sensor the sectarian political slogan, I think it is so important that people living in main land Britain can see the damage that has been unleashed in Belfast as a result of Brexshit.
Christopher O'Donoghue it’s to stop the family being put in more danger by putting them all over the internet.
We are everything British ppl desire brexit
Unionists hoped for a nice little border with the ROI but Boris gave them one with GB. Just looool 😃🤦♂️
Backfired didn't it 😄
What a spectacularly ill-informed comment. I’m from a Border area and grew up with The Troubles, but even by the low, pitiful standards by which non-Island of Ireland people seem to know anything about this shared island of ours, Your comment stands out as particularly wrong.
@@vercoda9997 Given the benefits of the GFA and the all island economy, WHY would anybody in the North want NI to leave the EU?
You say Unionists, but us Unionists did not want this. We wanted to remain just as much as you did. Our parties simply betrayed us. I have always voted Alliance (not that I’ve been able to vote while we had a real government) I didn’t want any border, I wanted to keep Northern Ireland as is.
@@thePipeBandEnthusiast 26+6=1. Join us, le chéile
Imagine voting DUP after what they did to the Union with brexit 😂
It's funny that the dup will be the ones to end the union just because they hate irish people 😂
@Jack The Film Fanatic Most of the DUP members wouldn't agree.
@Jack The Film Fanatic They don't consider themselves Irish
It's a fear-based vote. Until moderate Unionism grows a pair of balls, there's no other valid option.
Jack The Film Fanatic you’ve just insulted every orangemen. All orange culture is built around being non-irish.
I like the optimism of these young people. They stress cooperation over confrontation.
Until You get to the thug loyalists..
@Jack The Film Fanatic illegal occupation on stolen land what do you want a hug and a kiss ? Fuck off hun pussy
Brainwashed fools
@Jack The Film Fanatic whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout...
@@jkkennedy9280 right? They probably celebrated and laughed. Gross. There is still prejudice against us in 2019 smh english needa see the truth we dont hate people unless they are actively racist. I had many english friends growing up.
Can’t wait to see The United Ireland 🇮🇪
Used to be a unionist, now I’m neutral
We need to leave the passion for the IRA or the UVF behind.
Speak for yourself most ppl never had a passion for terrorism
24k vs 98k income to gdp
Northern Ireland will drop in income while Ireland will spike to 98k next year
Unity makes sense
Uk gdp 2.11 trillion
Ireland gdp 333.7 billion
Does it make sense
@uildanach2010 so do you think all that money is spread evenly between all the people or is most of it in the hands of the companies?
@uildanach2010 when I wrote that last year's figures were not final so I used the year before and what?
@uildanach2010 so all that money is separated in between everyone?
So every day living is not way higher in ireland?
Ireland have free health care does it?
@uildanach2010 see you assume a lot I don't claim to be British have I made that claim you biggot, so say you lost your job and have to go on benefits till you find work who look after their people better? Same with disabilities?
You think brexit is going to fail this is your speculation.
Ireland is basically owned by Europe this is fact.
Whenever we do rejoin Ireland, thank God it won't be about nationalists vs unionists anymore (:
I wouldn’t mind seeing a United Ireland, but we need to plan and wait a few years for it. If not, we could get ourselves into an even bigger mess than Brexit
There are 200,000 British people living down here in the South and they dont seem to have any problems. Why would be different for people from NI that have that identity?
@Jack The Film Fanatic America and europe would back the irish state if that was to happen and the UK wouldnt be able to intervene to keep good relations with the yanks so yeah it could be a messy situation alright. Best for everyone to just wait and see what happens in Scotland this time next year.
Why does the stormont building look so cool and the Scottish parliament look like a pile of pretentious modern architect crap
Yes and look how much it cost to build
@@AlanWattResistance when they have to refurbish it they should just knock it down imo. I don't understand why they never thought of using the original parliament building again
Because one is in use and the other one isn’t.
Might be for sale if you want it.
OMG, I never saw it till you mentioned it, what a monstrosity and inside a UNESCO heritage site as well.
Bryson relishes the prospect of stirring up sectarian tension. It's his MO for decades. An odious person.
@Jack The Film Fanatic they will try and do what they done in 1918-21 which is to force British Unionists/protestants to become Irish or go back to Britain.
@@ulsterscotsman6648 by "force," do you mean vote? Most people would define force as importing German guns, to obstruct the democratic process. Like the unionists did in 1918-21.
@@paulduffy4585 Hello jack, Ulster Scots man and O'Kane. Gentlemen, can we not go there please? It's a dead end. Ask yourselves what is best for the children of Northern Ireland and work together towards that. No future in the past.
So he's like John Hume and Ivan Cooper then?
@@barryolaith you're absolutely right.
It's all over now baby blue… Bye bye Union.
Northern Ireland is slowly moving away from the england, unionists party got the most votes in the last years and imagine this border and checks on the sea between ireland and England... Uk is slowly dying, we witness the end of the greatest union in the world and the rise of the new one
Moore Holmes is there making sure the views of East Belfast UVF are well represented.
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I'm English but can you guys take me with you when you leave?
@@benfarmer-webb1016 come aboard.
@@benfarmer-webb1016 You and me both mate
@@benfarmer-webb1016 Whoever you are, if you move to Wales, appreciate the culture, learn some words, then you can consider yourself Welsh tbh.
People are really accepting when it comes to that
Lucas Davenport Oh a Brexiteer bigot blinded by hatred for people with different opinions.
Watching brexit news is like watching a soap opera which never ends.......Next season will come soon.....
“It’s us V them”....how’s that working for ya wee man 😂😂😂😂
Kip Dynamite I think his honesty is admirable. If it were the politicians who for the past three years have not being doing their job due to sectarian attitudes, they’d deny the fact of the matter and claim the question itself is stoking an old flame.
Loyalists are going to have to get their head around the fact that they are fast becoming a minority. Moderate Unionist seem to have accepted this fact ,if reluctantly.
@Anthony Burke Yes but the differences a small enough at the moment, over the next 10 to 15 years they will shrink to a 25% minority.
What happens when you hate sex more than you hate Catholics.
@@paulduffy4585 or too much Dutch Gold causes mickey marbh.
@@KevinBarry269 probably not a bad thing considering.
Kevin Barry you’re under the assumption that Protestants and only Protestants = unionists. Sure Protestants will make up 33% with the ne t generation. But your forget that most atheists are from a Protestant unionist stock. And will most likely vote that way. Therefore in reality it’s still 50-50.
What do Irish in the republic as well as northern feel about unification? Kind of curious how average people in the country and northern uk territory feel about unification.
Our voices don't get heard in the UK, the union is going to fall apart soon so I think it's time we stop trying to delay it. My life won't be any different anyway and Ireland does have a pretty good health care system
@@adamender9092 the problem is that it’s not free
That’s why I’m neutral
Irish reunification does seem like a good idea, I have to admit that..
Yeah but the unionists could start a civil war
I used to be one now I’m neutral
I am worried about the Good Friday Agreement,
The UK's days are limited
The DUP and loyalism has kept the peaceful development of the north of Ireland in the dark age's, now is the time for change, a united Ireland is the only answer.
@@mickricke3762 Northern Ireland was light years ahead of the republic until you fuckers started your shit. Glad that you acknowledge that you are full of hate though. The hate always came from the Nationalist. They always hated us for the success we made of NI after 1921, that's why they kept on killing people when they got the chance. Bombs in England killing shoppers, shooting policemen, siding with Hitler. You hated us for our PRIDE. No wonder. I must have stung that while your lot got 4 fifths of the Island in 1921 peace treaty, southerners could hardly afford toilet paper to wipe their arses with for 50 years.
@@dixienormous8559 you can't see the forest for the trees. You'll never see the truth, it was loyalists who started the troubles burning out Catholics from their homes, and it was loyalists who murdered the first policeman. But all that's about to change ask Arlene what planes she's made for a united Ireland, she's already made it public she won't be staying, and has bought her house in Scotland. Only Two years till nationalists are the majority, and unionists won't know what's hit them. Sinn fein wants to welcome unionists into a united Ireland but it'll be the political wing of the new ira that'll sweep the shinners aside as nationalists are fed up with the soft sf, and are itching to get at the hard line loyalists and give them a taste of their own medicine. There will he a united Ireland and sooner than you think.
@Jack The Film Fanatic don't you worry about sinn fein, they won't be the party after a united Ireland as nationalists are already fed up with their softly softly approach with the DUP. The political wing of the new IRA are already set to take over.
They really need some landscaping around their legislature, there! LOL
Can I remind how Brits Olympic team called? Team GB. That means nema of the island on which England located, but Ireland is the other island. So Team GB doesn't represent NI on Olympic games.
Ai
you're right good detail gonna have some talk on this
It's team GB&NI
I don’t think they should tax it….
😲 That Accent Though!!! 😲
NI speak a different language, it is just natural that they split from the UK
The presenter?
In Ireland we think it’s kinda posh - your bank manager is always a nordie haha
That's a lot of bad press scare mongering
When Blair engineered the good Friday agreement ,it was so the six counties should rule themselves , that semi - detached them from the union, while England Wales. Scotland remained under union rule. Boris by putting a border between n.i. And u.k. Has in fact detached n.i. They are now outside the u.k. 6 counties in limbo --- waiting for the day that the Catholic majority vote for an all Ireland , one question " who will govern them if stormont fails to do so"?
Paramilitaries probably
William McConville Terrorists on both sites need to be gotten rid of.
@@RobertK1993 no argument here, go tell them that and see the reaction you get
Jamie its us v them and you lost haha united Irelands coming get used to it
The Taoiseach thinks different
Ulster Unionism is in danger.
Jack The Film Fanatic Really but I doubt Ulster Scots Presbyterians will vote for United Ireland SF/IRA bombed so much that to vote for United Ireland would be humiliating are some Presbyterians considering United Ireland.
Jack The Film Fanatic a Protestants you mean Presbyterians or Anglican would fear persecution the Republic is not Rome rule.
There is a large amount of unionists in the north that are hateful, backward thinking , and opposed to even things that can benefit the north . They are thinking about themselves not their children’s future . Sad times
Checkacheckayeeeup You do realize that the exact same could be said about the North’s version of Republicans? Neither set of the North’s Unionists or Republicans are wanted in our Republic - they’re all welcome to live with and among us as long as they behave and keep their political opinions to themselves, but otherwise they’re Not the same as Us.
Ver Coda I don’t agree with what you said at all .
They are absolutely wanted in our unified Ireland .
But what should be pointed out Is that times are changing and so should the the old rhetoric of us against them like those two boys at the end .
The way forward is thinking forward , not looking into the past because it will get us nowhere .
I get that you truly believe that, but it simply isn’t true. Sure, we have the DUP which is somehow still a party people vote for. We also have Sinn Fein, which again is a wonder why people vote for them. Idiots vs murderers. Not a great choice. I’m a Unionist and I vote Alliance or UUP (not UUP this time though) I have had to vote for Alliance and the SDLP because I don’t want Brexit. I sound like a Nationalist and you know, it sucks, I want to be able to vote for a party which totally represents my opinions, but I don’t have that luxury clearly.
Ruth Watson No Ruth it’s absolutely true you are completely wanted in a United ireland , our Ireland , our combined history is what makes Ireland .
I know the politics in the north are so complicated and are based on us versus them still but the partition of Ireland has caused this endless war of us versus them , catholic versus Protestant and where are the English when you need them , nowhere running anyway from the problem of our north and hoping it will sort itself out . They have never cared about it and how they are handling brexit has proved that . A United ireland would be a economic powerhouse in Europe and the world .
I don’t think it’s time for a vote yet but at least let’s have a conversation about what it could potentially look it like , not just in the north , a north , south conversation .
Let’s prosper together .
Checkacheckayeeeup I respect your opinion, and I clearly agree that Westminster is just a bunch of buffoons who don’t give a flying squirrel about Northern Ireland. However, I don’t want to lose my culture. I enjoy having pound sterling, I love my NHS (yes even with all of its issues), I don’t want Irish road signs because I’m not Irish. If we became Ireland, I couldn’t say I was Northern Irish, because I like dealing with facts. I would feel like I was losing my entire identity.
Who let that spa seamy bwyson on 😂😂
Refreshing to see some actual dialogue in the comment threads, instead of the usual - up the Ra/no surrender.
@Jack The Film Fanatic time to get past the notion of sides then.
UK = United Kuckdom lol
There's nothing united about it.
How did Nothern Ireland ever get called Northern Ireland which Implies that it's all of the North of Ireland in the Uk when the furthest Northern point in Ireland is in the Republic (Donegal) as seen on the UA-cam front cover. Should have been called North East of Ireland. I'm sure Donegal in the NW of Ireland has suffered because of this misuse of title.
strangely unbiased... interviewing more than your political outlook? much needed common sense.
Only labour can heal these wounds
Jamie biryani lol
26+6=1
Jamie Bryson, what qualifications and academic degrees did you attain? And if so, where?
I’m a Unionist. But it’s hard to truly say that nowadays. This will be my 3rd time voting in just 2 years since I turned 18. I have never voted DUP, most of us young Unionists hate the DUP and everything they stand for. We want to stay in the EU and we wanted same sex marriage. However, we didn’t want abortion to be a total free for all. We were not asked, our government was not asked. We don’t even have the basic right of a voice because our government hasn’t sat for years. I have not voted once at a time when we had a government. Our country voted to remain, and yet the main Unionist parties are now campaigning leave. Who have I to vote for that has views in line with my own? My only real option is Alliance, and they would be pro choice. Now I’m not saying we didn’t need to change the law on that, we did. But not to what it is now. There needs to be strict guidelines because these are children’s lives we are talking about. I am forced to vote Alliance and then the two main Nationalist parties because I feel that the Unionist parties have totally destroyed any respect I had for them (well, the UUP anyway, I never had any respect for the DUP). I don’t want a United Ireland, but Westminster totally ignores us as a country. It’s entirely focused on England and maybe Wales. Scotland is forgotten about, but Northern Ireland is like the ugly middle child who they never wanted. They don’t have a government? Ah well, we won’t actually do something and stop their pay so they start working, not too worried about that lot. Let’s force through some legislation they have no say on and dock the pay a teeny bit. Let’s also not worry about essential projects and other things which would help the citizens out, who cares about them? Sure are they not Ireland? Let’s also not worry about the peace process and putting borders that neither community wants. The English government could not care less. And I say English, because they do not truly govern the UK, it’s all about England for them. Scotland is lucky to have a strong voice in the SNP that stands up for them. We don’t even have that. I want to stay in the EU and in the UK, but I don’t want to be cast aside and forgotten like we have been. I shouldn’t be forced to vote for murderers over Brexiteers! I don’t honestly think that a United Ireland would be good for us either. I love the NHS, I love my country, I don’t want it to become just Ireland because I am not Irish or British and I never will be.
Vote for murders? Are you unaware that most loyalist parties in NI are formed from loyalist terrorist groups that killed the most amount of civilians during the troubles, which btw was funded by British army? NHS is just as bad as the republic healthcare in fact it has longer waiting times.
The Magnificent Creep Actually, the statistics say that the Republican groups killed more than the British forces and the loyalists combined. I wouldn’t vote for the loyalist TUV anyway, does anyone? Sinn Fein publicly supported and collaborated with IRA. Their party is entirely made up of people who murdered and maimed, that is not the case for the main Unionist parties. Don’t get me wrong, the NHS isn’t perfect and it needs help, but free healthcare is a right and I enjoy it.
@@thePipeBandEnthusiast No idea where you got that statistic from but, according to the academic sources iv'e read the majority of civilians where killed by the uvf and uda who clouded with the British government.Of course this wasn't just confined to the North of the border, the republic had a few big scares by loyalist terrorists such as the Dublin and Monaghan bombings. civilians and soldiers are two different things, you should not confuse the two, I'm not trying to condone what the IRA did just pointing out the facts here.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles#Casualties
The NHS doesn't seem practicality good to me the wait times are insane even compared to the Republic, I have never had any issues with medical care here. I get what you're saying though and again if you feel that's a deal breaker for you than so be it Ruth.
@@thePipeBandEnthusiast As for the SF being made up of murders, most of the members of SF who were part of the IRA are dead by now, McGuinness passed away recently, and Adams stepped down. The current SF had nothing to do with the new IRA.
@Jack The Film Fanatic In all due respect you don't have a good grasp of the history of the troubles, please read the article on Wikipedia properly. 60% includes British solders not civilian's, the actual statistics according to Malcolm Sutton's Index of Deaths from the Conflict in Ireland.
Of those killed by British security forces:
(~51.2%) were civilians
Of those killed by loyalist paramilitaries:
(~85.5%) were civilians
Of those killed by republican paramilitaries:
(~52.5% were civilians.
Combining the total number of civilians killed by loyalists and the British army which colluded together is greater than the IRA.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles#Casualties
I urge Ruth to read the article if she hasn't already.
We don’t like the DUP, we don’t want to leave the EU. We are forced to vote Nationalist parties even though we don’t want a United Ireland. We want to stay NI. In the UK, in the EU, a separate country. The unionist parties have entirely failed us. We now vote Alliance.
When you say we who are you referring to? Alliance is certainty a superior choice over DUP.
The Magnificent Creep Unionists, specifically young Unionists. Even those of my friends who are more handline Unionists would not vote DUP.
@@thePipeBandEnthusiast I don't blame them the DUP was a sectarian bigoted joke from its very creation. I read somewhere that unionists are of the aging demographic, although, not all obviously, but in this case I think ye could expect unionism to be a minority in 10 years. Right now the republican and unionist demographics are pretty much neck and neck. Personally If I was a unionist I would jump on the idea of a united Ireland, take your share in the true republic, while you still can. This is a opportunity for you to shape a new country and have your voice heard, in your current situation you're just ignored because of how irrelevant you're to the British, but in a united Ireland you would be a sizable minority, you would have real say in how your country is run and not just getting orders from london.
The Magnificent Creep I don’t know that we would have a real say, I don’t believe it would be any better. I don’t agree that unionists are mainly older people. There may be many of them, but there are more of us young Unionists than you would thing, although we are some very frustrated people.
Jack The Film Fanatic UUP aren’t remain. Sinn Fein is below the others but sadly above DUP. I hate that it’s come to this, but I don’t realistically have a choice.
The Loyalist vote numerically is in decline and will thankfully be replaced with forward and progressive thinking people who are interested in making Northern Ireland a modern country where religious bigotry shall be frowned upon and replaced by real political parties that aspire to maintain an educated functioning and financially stable society for everyone equally.
Good report BBC.
Northern Ireland independent country 👀
Finally, a country to rival Zimbabwe in economic growth
that'd be good, pissing off both parties 😆😉
*Tiocfaidh ár lá*
🇮🇪Unity and peace
I just watched this. So I did.
While eating cheddar cheese and pineapple on a stick
Option 1 : R OF Ireland - RESOLUTION Road map
1 North Ireland independent vote - Leave UK
2 Ireland united with North Ireland
3 United Ireland Join EU
4 United Ireland sign customer agreement with UK - no hard boarder.
5 EU citizenship travel to United Ireland needs follow UK rule in terms o free move in UK.
6 United Ireland plays a buffer zone to UK with EU given the geographic strength.
Given that North Ireland would like to stay in EU but UK pro Brexit, therefore this reflect the majority of the North Ireland people's willingness and beneficial to Ireland given tat Ireland will geographically united its land which was occupied by King of England for many years. UK will benefit for not entering into hard wall/War with Ireland and its across straight neighbors EU members.
HAHAHAHA DUP!!!! Couldn't happen to a better party.
Unity would take the venom out of the Irish. Venom which has made you formidable. Be careful what you wish for I say. The friction between the unionists in the North and main land Ireland does give the country a certain special consideration. Leverage.
The UK regularly has to make concessions to maintain peace and stability in Ireland.
Personally I think you would lose more than you gain. Negotiating with one unified Ireland would have advantages for Britain. Would not want to see unified Ireland while Brits in Northern Ireland bravely support the union.
I can understand heads been turned by the poor showing of British MP's. I'm English an if I could devource parliament I absolutely would. They are utterly shameless.
But I'm a democrat. The union needs to be an attractive Union we can sell, which people want to willingly be part of. Our MP's are consistently failing to make the case for a stronger UK.
If a vote comes. I hope it is taken in good faith and respected by all.
But I fear the worst.
@Anthony Burke fucksake. One more time...
In acknowledgment/recognisation of past historical issues. The UK regularly has to back down and make concessions to Ireland. Fact.
Even though the history is unchangable. By anyone. An very few alive today carry blame for it.
If Ireland were independent such favourable treatment would surely stop. You would just be another country to deal with.
Clearly we are not really disagreeing here are we.
The blame game serves Ireland well.
@Anthony Burkebless ya. your not really understanding a word been said.
We have made a great many concessions to maintain peace in Ireland. Upto and including releasing terrorists. Something not all of us agreed with. I might add.
It's you that need to drag your knuckles down to the library and read some history.
That's why Ireland maintain the rediculous blame game.
Can people in 2019 still be worked up about Oliver Cromwell? Really ?
It's like the English sat pissing an moaning about the Vikings.
It's rediculous. All about leverage.
It is very much a game.
Carry on. Just like SNP if you let your politicians blame UK for everything nothing good will come of it. Your MP's just have a ready made excuse for everything.
@Anthony Burke peaceful since 1920 my arse.
Are you just trolling or are you this thick ?
I'd say not carpet bombing the shit out of Ireland an persueing a peace process instead.
Was a concession.
Your gonna have too fuck off because I'm starting to think Cromwell was right.
@@paulgibbons2320 and there you have it folks, a surface that barely needs scratched.
@Jack The Film Fanatic
Aren't they so kind to have bequeath us with the Free State... How very British of you to see the transition of Ireland to finally being a self governing independent nation; which was fought for centuries to achieve.. as being a concession made by Britain....
Maybe Churchill didn't invade Ireland during WW2 as he threatened to do was a concession too? Bigger countries threatening their smaller neighbours with invasion... where have we heard about that occurring during WW2 before?
The Good Friday Agreement is in relation to bringing peace to the north of Ireland (which is currently part of the UK) and stop the bombings in Britain... in what way is it a concession to Ireland?
I'm not from Britain or Ireland but I don't understand the terminology used in regards to this conflict. I mean why don't Catholic people in Northern Ireland simply say that they are Irish, and the Protestants say that they are English (if Anglican) or Scottish (if Presybiterian), why call them just Catholics and Protestants, I mean as far as I understand this is a ethno-national and political conflict, and only marginally a religious one
88kjk75 lmao that’s why most educated people in n Ireland leave to another country the “country” is living in 1780.
@@noyes5153 so in your opinion it is a primarily religious conflict?
It's not a religious conflict at all. The only reason we sometimes generalize all Protestants living here as unionist is because unionism first came to Ireland during the Ulster plantations whenever the British were stealing native land and selling it to anglo-scotti Protestants
@@stairnaheireann1445 yes, I know that, but how do the Protestants view themselves ethno-nationally? Is it just as British, or is there still a divide bettwen the English and the Scots in Northern Ireland?
Free British occupied Northern Ireland.
Indian bot
Northern Ireland has been multicultural since its creation!!
What the final result was
DUP 8
Sinn Fein 7
SDLP 2
Alliance1
Nationalists have 9 seats while Unionists have only 8 seats
This put the anti Brexit camp & Nationalist winning control with 9 seats over the 8 seats the unionist have
The boarder poll will be coming & everyone needs to adapt & see what happens
The biggest result saw Dodds if the DUP losing his seat to Finnegan of Sinn Fein
Dodds has been a long term DUP MP now it’s a seat that’s taken by a Nationalist
Sdlp don't want a vote on it and neither does the Taoiseach so I wouldn't expect it any time soon
STOP 🛑 BRAHXIT!
Best comment 😂
In Northern Ireland you have two populations: The Irish & the British. They speak different languages & practice different Faith Traditions. The British are newcomers, were never fully assimilated, & need to go home.
You do realise most Irish people have English ancestry there are very few original Irish left
Ah yes. You tell all those 500-year-old blow-ins to go home. That’s the spirit.
What about the hundreds of thousands of Irish who went to England and Scotland over the years? Do you not see your own hypocrisy?
Éamonn Síoċáin “new comers” we’ve been here for 400 years. We’ve Plowed the fields, we’ve built the roads, we’ve built the country. The entirety of Ulster (all 9 counties) would be much less economically and socially developed if it wasn’t for the Ulster Scots. And the British and the Irish here don’t speak separate languages. Only 3% speak Irish up here.
Well this is entirely false. Northern Ireland has Northern Irish people. Not British, because that would mean GB which is actually just the mainland, NI is part of the UK, not GB. And not Irish, because that would mean the republic of Ireland, and we are a separate country from that. I don’t think newcomers is a great way to phrase that, would you say the same of other refugees and immigrants? Given that we were all born here, as were our parents and grandparents and their parents and grandparents, I don’t believe that that quite fits this situation. I am home. Northern Ireland is my home. Not Ireland, not Great Britain, Northern Ireland.
On this kind of topic, I can't wait for those "united ireland" fanatics to go out wild in the comment section
Look. You guys aren’t fooling anyone. Where are you hiding the leprechauns?
Northern Ireland will always be british
*Irish
@@eruno_ never .
Tiocfaidh ár lá
It’s not British or Irish. It’s part of the UK. It’s just Northern Irish.
@@thePipeBandEnthusiast NI is not a country Ruth, it can't survive on its own and has no history. It's a failed British colony. Whiter or not you're native Irish, Scottish or English, we're all Irish on this island we are to small to be cut into little pieces, when you go outside of Ireland you're Irish, not British. UI represents a chance to build a truly great nation, to throw out the trash of bigotry and create something special. Why waste it on silly 17th century feuds.
It's amazing how religion can split countries apart.
Religion is just something that denotes heritage. It's not actually about the catholic or protestant religions.
The British partitioned Ireland not religion.
@Via a person could be forgiven for thinking it was about religion, when that was the story the media were telling three times a day for thirty years.
Look at the cultural differences between Catholic and Protestant countries. Ideas are important, they can change how a society operates, which is why people always fight over ideas, whether religious or political.
It's nothing to do with religion,
it's Nationality
remember EU Ireland has agreed to take in immigrants as well RIGHT NOW
26 + 6 = 1
Yay! They'll never beat the Irish!
"Come out ye Black and Tans, come out and fight me like a man,
Show your wife how you won medals down in Flanders,
Tell them how the IRA made you run like hell away
From the green and lovely lanes of Killashandra"
Wonder who'll pay for it...
@@patrickn8235 A united Ireland? The idea that we ''couldn't'' afford it is a complete myth cooked up by propagandist loyalists.
@@patrickn8235 we'll just pay for it out of the 45 billion we won't be paying Britain, only to receive a piddling 10 billion so called subsidie. I think you'll find it can only get better.
@@patrickn8235 it must be dead easy to get into the psni if your level of stupidity is anything to go by.