I only wanted Fischl cause I never had her and she was the final missing piece in my team (Razor, Xingqiu, Qiqi)... Ended up with C1 Fish and C1 YM. Sad... Wish it was C3 Fish...
Fischl and I share the same name and our birthdays are 2 days apart. I love her character a lot. However Yae Miko is a character I’ve wanted since her first appearance (and teaser prior to that). I use them both… a lot. I don’t need to choose. 😂
you say c1 makes no difference in damage, but you used the ultimate twice, if you didn't have c1 it wouldn't happen which would decrease your dps a lot.
@@TacticalDimples oh yes, the cd, that's the problem, not the insane 90 energy needed.... with 0 constellation, just the time it takes for you to use the ult again, it took at least ~2 cd. I have this char, so it's not for nothing that I say this. C1 make difference in your dps.
@@TacticalDimples Nobody is talking about less cooldown. He simply pointed out that C1 gives you more damage, as we known that you get 8 energy particles when you break 3 turrets with Yae's ult. More energy = more ultimates = more damage overall. If you don't have C1, you have to spend more time getting energy particles from elemental skills/reactions for your ultimate. A rotation with 2 ultimates does more damage than a rotation with 1 ultimate. Simple math.
@@viniXrk that depends on how much field time yae takes. The best way to calculate damage is dps. Why? U want more damage to clear abyss so dps is the best cacl unit to use. Tbh I think rot time>damage per rot. But both matter a lot
As an f2p with a C0 Yae Miko and R1 Kagura, her damage as a sub dps is medicore/low and her kit is extremely clunky. She can't cast a damn skill without being axed by mitachurls, needs an electro battery to help her charge her burst, needs a shield character just to keep her alive from dying from tiny leaf cuts, and a buffer to actually make her damage barely good. Tell me, the limit is only 4 characters in a team so where the hell am I suppose to put my main DPS if Yae Miko is using up all the slots to make her barely USABLE?
Even with an electro battery she still struggles to get her burst.. This character release might be worse than any other character's up until now... Even Kokomi has found her place in the meta and is now a solid character. It makes me sad because the anticipation in the community for Yae Miko was huge and this is just a slap in the face. (Also considering how she's buggy/ and literally broken, her ultimate freezes screen for 3 seconds, the autotargeting on the elemental skill just hits random stuff instead of the enemies and barely does any damage.
Yae, raiden/fischl, kazuha/sucrose/venti, bennett. Try that team. Raiden/fischl will help you get your burst back up faster for yae, kazuha/sucrose/venti is there for the 4p vv electro shred (if using kazuha or sucrose, they buff yae’s ult damage even further), and bennett is there because he heals and buffs attack as well, with both his ult and the 4p noblesse set. Hope that helps. Edit- yae and raiden are supposed to be the main dps characters of the team, but if you’re using fischl instead, then you’re going to have to rely on constantly swirling electro with sucrose to abuse the damage from Oz until yae’s ult gets off cd, as she puts in majority of the damage.
@@Ιρίνων Remember, it took a while for Kokomi to find her place in the meta (2 patches later if i remember correctly?), so that might be the same with yae. And personally, I am having a lot of success with her. 36 starred abyss using a scuffed xiao team for the 2nd half and yae 1st half. I do agree she is a bit buggy, and that the auto targeting mechanic in genshin is very broken (in a bad way), she is still a very solid dps. Also, idk about the ultimate freezing the screen for 3 seconds, care to elaborate on that one, because I genuinely haven’t had that problem yet. Also, if you have raiden or can pull for her, she pairs with yae very well in all areas, but is also a very very good character in general, so you could consider pulling for her. And if you want to know more of my thoughts about yae, there’s a reply from me to the original comment, above. (Also, just to clarify, I am not a yae miko main, these are just my objective opinions on her)
@@maxximumcawk9653 I have the exact same opinions. I also don't know about screen freezing, he might have some issue with his installation or computer/phone setup. My issue is the damage. Even having kazuha and Bennet, her damage still lacks to me. I mean, she's at C2 and has 1800 atk, 55/260 crit/DMG, kaguya's verity R1, and I'm using her coupled with fish to play Raiden C0, and the absolute best two supports in the game, kazuha 1k EM and bennet. As a 5*, she should be decimating everything, which it's not what really feels like. It just seems like ok to good damage. Sometimes I switch to Raiden and she feels like carrying my Miko's ass. I'm a honkai impact player and we have a giant kitsune boss called hellmaru. As Yae is also one, her ultimate could be so much more fun than just, err, just do damage. She could enter her kitsune form and beat the ass off the enemies in the battlefield. The way she's now is kinda weak AND boring, and is of the weakest element. The best they could have done was to brute force with numbers. I got her because I wanted to give a good ending for her character (she has a very sad story in honkai) and we've got deymdro coming in the next X.0 version, which might buff electro. Hopefully she will get better.
@@viniXrk Really? That’s interesting because my (friends) yae is c1 and she does about 70k per lightning bolt when fully buffed. You could try switching kazuha out with sara, but the rotations will be more tight and a bit different. The yae build I’m using is lv90 yae, lv90 kagura’s verity, 2p noblesse 2p thundering fury, 1883 atk, 61 em, 75.1/196.2 crit ratio. The towers also do around 12k each, which is a nice bonus, but imo, not a crucial part of her kit. I think the opinions we have about how her kit is are a bit different, but that’s not a bad thing. I think they made her this way because if they made another on field electro dps, she’d be compared with keqing and raiden, which would further decrease keqing’s “value” and uniqueness, while also having a lot of people saying to just pull for raiden as she would probably be better. But from my point of view, I think yae is fine the way she is (maybe fixing up her dashes a little though), because she opens up new doors to raiden apart from “national team beatdown”, which then leads to two of the best sub dpses (xingqiu and xiangling) able to be used in other teams, such as with hu tao, childe, ayaka, etc. and I personally really like that.
basically it comes down to if you want to press skill 3 times for 1 proc per 3seconds or press skill once for 1 proc per second. also imo, almost all 6 cons 4 star chars are basically a 0 cons 5 star char. ignore this old man. I have lvl 20 Diluc and Childe and a lvl 90 Nolle and lvl 90 Gyoko.
I would love to see a comparisson of them using the same artifacts. Comparisson of NA/CA total damage output, can be done by just using NA/CA to clear an enemy. Burst damage cannot be compared, yae won that.
This guy is a noob bro...hes comparing characters without their best artifact sets and weapons. I agree that gameplay wise fischl is better, I know that cuz I have C6 fischl and I don't have yae miko.
What if they fix yae’s faulty targeting system from her elemental skill by making each of her totem casts individual lighting strikes upon each possible target within the range, or maybe put a limit by around 5 individual targets. Maybe that would be a more direct upgrade from a c6 oz. Think about all that quadratic shenanigans you can cook there,
I'm just really disappointed with my Yae, purely because I've given her such good artifacts and investment but my level 50 talent 4 fishcl does just over half the damage on her E?? I had to hit hard pity for Yae so it just increased my overall disappointment
this is why u 1st watch new char multiple reviews and wait few days and then decide to pull or not pull ;) especially if ur looking for meta chars not for character drip
@@saf2951 yeah shit happens but i think u ll be fine in a long run, usually hapenns wih most most characters (like kokomi found her op spots, childe etc), especially when dendro drops who knows it could react very well with electro and boost them to meta so no worries man. If u remember bunch of ppl shitted on raiden for being so bad and now she is considered 1 of the most op chars in game. And 2nd Yae dont have 4pc set so when it comes in future could boost her a lot aswell ;)
Lol choose onee. But interesting to see your input of going with fischl haha. Also lmk if I did fine with some of the testing or if you want to add any other test
@@realSuperaTom almost forgot I sent my friend's account for you to review in your next stream account reviews, she's shy so I sent it myself LMFAO she plays in Asia fortunately
@@ZMiRACLE- ah yes I saw. Thought that was your acc uid you left on LMFAO. All good, I'll review on this Sunday stream, tell your fr it's best to be on stream if possible so I can give her better tailored review
It really is a shame, but Yae Miko has proven very dissapointing at C0, with a costly elemental burst that can easily be outdamaged by even 4 star units with much more manageable energy costs, an elemental skill with poor energy generation (making the burst issue even worse), targeting issues, long deployment times without any kind of protection (i-frames/hyperarmor), as well as requiring as much on-field time as a dedicated main damage unit in order to be properly buffed. Her passive talents also have problems, as her passive talent 1 requires her to redeploy her elemental skill after using her elemental burst instead of a much more practical effect of simply refreshing totem duration, and her passive talent 2 increases her elemental skill damage based on her elemental mastery stat, which has really low value for any electro units as transformative reactions suffer from low scaling, no critical hits and internal cooldowns. A much better ability would be to base the damage scaling on energy recharge, therefore motivating players to use weapons such as the Oathsworn Eye, Hakushin Ring and Favonius Codex, as well as the Emblem of Severed Fate artifact set, since the ratio between damage and burst uptime would be much more balanced. Overrall, Yae Miko at C0 really has no role to fill that can't already be better filled by Fischl and Beidou, which have comparable if not better off field damage and much more manageable energy costs. Not only that, but locking her energy regeneration potential behind her first constellation seems disingenuous, as the company is basically creating a problem with their unit that can only be fixed by actively spending money, which is a very insidious business model that seeks to act on the gray area at the limits of the Chinese regulations. I love the character, don't get me wrong, but she has obvious problems that can't be overlooked.
She’s meant to be played with another electro character, mainly fischl or raiden. In fact, raiden and fischl are more similar compared to yae and fischl. Yae is an off field sub/burst dps so comparing her to a sub dps/battery doesn’t make a lot of sense. From what you said in your comment, I get the feeling you’re looking at yae miko by herself, without any teammates, buffs, etc., as her damage is stellar if used correctly. The point of having the 3 totems is to buff her burst damage to the maximum and once you do, at talent level 8, you’ll be seeing 80k per thunder strike (3 in total and another one that’s around 40k), so I’d say it’s more of a viewpoint problem than a character design problem, as that’s what the game is about, making teams that compliment the characters that are on said teams. E.g. yae, raiden/fischl, kazuha/venti/sucrose/sara/zhongli/kokomi/bennett/xingqiu and someone else from that list. Raiden and fischl improve maintaining yae’s energy, venti can do the same if you decide to use him, the 3rd and 4th slots can be many different combinations, but for the sake of simplicity, we’ll use sucrose and bennett. Sucrose will be using 4p vv to reduce the enemies electro resistance and grouping them up, while also buffing yae’s elemental mastery by 166.4 if she’s using a lv90 sacrificial fragments with maxed EM main stat artifacts (not including sub stats) , which she most likely will, therefore increasing her elemental burst’s damage by a whopping 25%. There’s also bennett with a 4p noblesse set and his ult to increase her damage even further. And yes, while you could compare her with beidou, I’d argue beidou is even more niche than yae to use, as her off field damage is mainly aoe and you lose a major amount if you decide to use her against a boss/singular enemy, in which case, fischl or even yae would just be better options. I’m not saying you’re not allowed to have your own opinion, if that’s how you feel about the character, then by all means, but consider thoroughly going through her kit, seeing her problems and finding out what you can do to improve upon them, rather than pointing them out and comparing her to other characters (remember when kokomi was first released and everyone called her a barbara clone, as well as raiden being “underwhelming” and “not worth”? Well look at them now). This is my take on her issues and what she’s good at. If you disagree or have something to add at all or talk about, feel free to respond. Pros- Good damage, has a lot of versatility, fun and satisfying to play, synergises well with many of the “best” characters, f2p friendly, great character to invest a lot into, as she gets better the more resources go into her/good for late game players. Cons- dash sometimes feels janky, dash needs small amount of s or super armor, auto targeting in general needs to be fixed, replacing towers after ult seems irrelevant (they should just stay there after ulting), bad character to minimally invest into/bad for beginners as they won’t have “end game” resources to constantly improve her and min-max her immediately, as well as ascending her. My overall opinion, she’s a solid dps, but nothing special. HoweverI do think the hype from before she got released is what lead to all these “doomposts” and complaints, as many expected her to be the dawn of a new era for electro and/or an over-the-top ganyu-like electro dps, but neither were the case.
What bothers me the most is that her 3 turret mechanic does absolutely nothing for her. Like you can change it to her only having to place 1 turret instead and nothing in her kit would change. So it seems like they added it for the sake of adding it.
@@maxximumcawk9653 she’s meant to be played with Raiden. Why? Banner sales. They wanted to make her an off-field DPS for Raiden. She was originally supposed to be an on-field DPS that utilizes her NAs and CA with Shimenawas, but it got scrapped for reasons that I’m 99% sure are profit related.
@@TacticalDimples I’m pretty sure neither of those are the case. We already have 2 electro characters that focus on normal attacks, Keqing and Raiden herself, making keqing obsolete, as yae would just be a better keqing, and she’d have 0 synergy with raiden. Lore-wise, she’s “eternity’s servant and friend”, so if they didn’t have any synergy, I reckon the lore geeks would riot (and no, both of them being electro doesn’t count). The rumors from the chinese community have no basis, are constantly contradicting themselves, and are all usually copium posts or just plain wrong. Many of them have been incorrect and a character can be changed multiple times during beta before release. Yae was already like this during beta and proceeded to get buffs and changes throughout the whole of 2.4. The reason why she has that 3 turret gimmick is to increase the damage of her ult. At talent level 8, she’d be doing a total of 950.11% damage with her ult if they removed the 3 turret gimmick and only left 1, as opposed to 2018.33% with all 3 of her turrets. Yes, she can be played with raiden, but you can play her with other characters as well. Ofc mihoyo will try to get people to pull, but the same can be said with other characters. Ganyu and ayaka work well with shenhe and kokomi, as well as venti and kazuha. But they’re not a “must pull” in order for them to find a use (kazuha probably is just because he fits well in so many teams). Eula’s whole team can be 4* apart from herself, xiao’s team can be 4* apart from himself, you just need to cover for the character’s weaknesses with the other slots you have and play according to how you built your team. I always try to look at how a character works with other characters first and foremost before making a verdict, as making comparisons like “yae is worse than fischl” or “just wait for baal, she’s a better electro character” is very unhealthy for the game, especially when the characters have no similarities to each other, other than their element. I agree her 3 turrets are annoying to place (especially because she has no s at all or any kind of superarmor, mihoyo, why), but I feel like that’s what makes her kit unique and fun to me, along with an ult that scales with how many turrets there are, she’s kind of like if albedo was a main dps with sub dps capabilities. Anyways, those are my thoughts on her, hope you found them interesting or helpful.
A new 5 star is met with criticism most of the time but in yae miko's case, it really isn't without reason. The character as a whole is dysfunctional and her not having a dedicated artifact set only adds to it.
I mean, a C6 4 star is more expensive than a 5 star. There's far less of an RNG cushion to get a 4 star than there is for a 5 star. You can get pity for 4 stars, but even the guaranteed rate up + hard pity gives you a 1/3 to get a particular 4 star. For instance, the maximum summons to get Yae to C2 is 540. The maximum summons to get a C6 Fischl on a rateup is theoretically infinite.
Of course c6 4 star is gonna beat c0 5 star. Also yae's talents aren't even maxed like fischl's, such an unfair comparison. That's like comparing c0 childe to c6 xingqiu or c0 diluc to c6 xiangling, all whilst the 5 star gets a lvl 8 talent handicap while their 4 star counterparts get lvl 13 talent boost.
Fischl’s weren’t completely maxed. And People often compare C6 4 stars to C0 5 stars bc they usually take roughly the same amount of wishing. Sometimes C6ing a 4 star can even take way more wishes than a C0 5 star
@@curiouslamb8532 But C6 can be more expensive than than a C1 5 star. You don't really have a true guarantee to pull a 4 star on rateup means your 50/50s are immediately followed by a 1/3. That's why this is slightly skewed. If you win any of the 50/50s for a 5 star, and you're not starting out already having the 4 star in question, a C2 5 star could easily be cheaper. As an anecdote, I had C0 Fischl before this banner. Now I have C1 Yae and C3 Fischl, a C4 Thoma, and a C3 Dionna.
I just got yae miko now and seeing this I dont want to regret pulling her I was having like going to pull yae miko or yoimiya I kinda just want to use her as an electro support for my scara lol
I think i have a 100% chance to get miko after i failed on nahida banner. 💜I dont really know where can i use miko but i want her for my teapot. Already got fischl c6 and i plan to skip 4.5
Her damage isn’t bad it’s actually pretty good but her problem is just her E malfunctions sometimes and occasionally it also can lock you in animation for a second after you place a totem whereas usually you can dash out of it. Her burst targeting also would make more sense to track like the skill does considering it’s the same exact Kitsune as her skill doing the bolts. Other than that I do think she needs some fixes (especially in targeting the wolf lord) but she doesn’t need a rework or buffs really. Although if they did rework anything I’d change her skill durations to be as long as her burst, allow her to set 3 totems down at the same time so they have the same duration, and make her burst do more damage and have a higher CD to supplement its massive cost/damage. I’d also rework that first passive since it’s only use it to allow for the eeeqeee combo but we wouldn’t need that had they designed the e and w to be in rhythm with each other (if they lasted 23s then you’d have your charges back up anyways and the passive would be useless, it would also allow her to give her teammates more time and justify how they don’t snapshot)
I tried the same artifacts on each one and Yae sucks don’t try and tell me I’m doing something wrong because I’ve been fine with raiden, xiao , zhongli, Kokomi ,mona and aloy 🙂
This test is really unfair to Yae. Actually it is unfair to catalyst users. Canceling is extremely important. It is like choosing to not animation cancel with klee. Yae miko can get all her totems out instantly with proper canceling. Her charge attack also improves.
It’s not the same. You would need to use same artifact sets with bonuses. Also fischl has +3 levels to her burst & elemental skill. How does that compare to base yae levels?
Btw before you go commenting why not both? It's a video for those who can't get Yae Miko Lol :)
I only wanted Fischl cause I never had her and she was the final missing piece in my team (Razor, Xingqiu, Qiqi)... Ended up with C1 Fish and C1 YM. Sad... Wish it was C3 Fish...
i rolled for yae and got qiqi... i am now depressed and quit the game after losing the 50/50 a total of 21 times.
and yes, i am f2p
Fischl and I share the same name and our birthdays are 2 days apart. I love her character a lot. However Yae Miko is a character I’ve wanted since her first appearance (and teaser prior to that). I use them both… a lot. I don’t need to choose. 😂
Your name is Fischl?
fischl’s real name in her lore is Amy she changed her name to Fischl from a book character (you can read the rest of the lore)
@@wink4382 ahhh I knew that. I was just really hoping her name was Fischl!
@@bridgesbane7032 LMFAO somehow you just made my day sir
you say c1 makes no difference in damage, but you used the ultimate twice, if you didn't have c1 it wouldn't happen which would decrease your dps a lot.
What? Her C1 just gives her more energy back. It doesn’t decrease the cooldown of her burst.
@@TacticalDimples oh yes, the cd, that's the problem, not the insane 90 energy needed.... with 0 constellation, just the time it takes for you to use the ult again, it took at least ~2 cd. I have this char, so it's not for nothing that I say this. C1 make difference in your dps.
@@TacticalDimples Nobody is talking about less cooldown. He simply pointed out that C1 gives you more damage, as we known that you get 8 energy particles when you break 3 turrets with Yae's ult. More energy = more ultimates = more damage overall.
If you don't have C1, you have to spend more time getting energy particles from elemental skills/reactions for your ultimate.
A rotation with 2 ultimates does more damage than a rotation with 1 ultimate. Simple math.
It doesn’t really matter considering u still need to go through her skill cd
@@viniXrk that depends on how much field time yae takes. The best way to calculate damage is dps. Why? U want more damage to clear abyss so dps is the best cacl unit to use. Tbh I think rot time>damage per rot. But both matter a lot
As an f2p with a C0 Yae Miko and R1 Kagura, her damage as a sub dps is medicore/low and her kit is extremely clunky. She can't cast a damn skill without being axed by mitachurls, needs an electro battery to help her charge her burst, needs a shield character just to keep her alive from dying from tiny leaf cuts, and a buffer to actually make her damage barely good. Tell me, the limit is only 4 characters in a team so where the hell am I suppose to put my main DPS if Yae Miko is using up all the slots to make her barely USABLE?
Even with an electro battery she still struggles to get her burst.. This character release might be worse than any other character's up until now... Even Kokomi has found her place in the meta and is now a solid character. It makes me sad because the anticipation in the community for Yae Miko was huge and this is just a slap in the face. (Also considering how she's buggy/ and literally broken, her ultimate freezes screen for 3 seconds, the autotargeting on the elemental skill just hits random stuff instead of the enemies and barely does any damage.
Yae, raiden/fischl, kazuha/sucrose/venti, bennett. Try that team. Raiden/fischl will help you get your burst back up faster for yae, kazuha/sucrose/venti is there for the 4p vv electro shred (if using kazuha or sucrose, they buff yae’s ult damage even further), and bennett is there because he heals and buffs attack as well, with both his ult and the 4p noblesse set. Hope that helps.
Edit- yae and raiden are supposed to be the main dps characters of the team, but if you’re using fischl instead, then you’re going to have to rely on constantly swirling electro with sucrose to abuse the damage from Oz until yae’s ult gets off cd, as she puts in majority of the damage.
@@Ιρίνων Remember, it took a while for Kokomi to find her place in the meta (2 patches later if i remember correctly?), so that might be the same with yae. And personally, I am having a lot of success with her. 36 starred abyss using a scuffed xiao team for the 2nd half and yae 1st half. I do agree she is a bit buggy, and that the auto targeting mechanic in genshin is very broken (in a bad way), she is still a very solid dps. Also, idk about the ultimate freezing the screen for 3 seconds, care to elaborate on that one, because I genuinely haven’t had that problem yet. Also, if you have raiden or can pull for her, she pairs with yae very well in all areas, but is also a very very good character in general, so you could consider pulling for her. And if you want to know more of my thoughts about yae, there’s a reply from me to the original comment, above. (Also, just to clarify, I am not a yae miko main, these are just my objective opinions on her)
@@maxximumcawk9653 I have the exact same opinions. I also don't know about screen freezing, he might have some issue with his installation or computer/phone setup.
My issue is the damage. Even having kazuha and Bennet, her damage still lacks to me. I mean, she's at C2 and has 1800 atk, 55/260 crit/DMG, kaguya's verity R1, and I'm using her coupled with fish to play Raiden C0, and the absolute best two supports in the game, kazuha 1k EM and bennet. As a 5*, she should be decimating everything, which it's not what really feels like. It just seems like ok to good damage. Sometimes I switch to Raiden and she feels like carrying my Miko's ass.
I'm a honkai impact player and we have a giant kitsune boss called hellmaru. As Yae is also one, her ultimate could be so much more fun than just, err, just do damage. She could enter her kitsune form and beat the ass off the enemies in the battlefield. The way she's now is kinda weak AND boring, and is of the weakest element. The best they could have done was to brute force with numbers.
I got her because I wanted to give a good ending for her character (she has a very sad story in honkai) and we've got deymdro coming in the next X.0 version, which might buff electro. Hopefully she will get better.
@@viniXrk Really? That’s interesting because my (friends) yae is c1 and she does about 70k per lightning bolt when fully buffed. You could try switching kazuha out with sara, but the rotations will be more tight and a bit different. The yae build I’m using is lv90 yae, lv90 kagura’s verity, 2p noblesse 2p thundering fury, 1883 atk, 61 em, 75.1/196.2 crit ratio. The towers also do around 12k each, which is a nice bonus, but imo, not a crucial part of her kit. I think the opinions we have about how her kit is are a bit different, but that’s not a bad thing. I think they made her this way because if they made another on field electro dps, she’d be compared with keqing and raiden, which would further decrease keqing’s “value” and uniqueness, while also having a lot of people saying to just pull for raiden as she would probably be better. But from my point of view, I think yae is fine the way she is (maybe fixing up her dashes a little though), because she opens up new doors to raiden apart from “national team beatdown”, which then leads to two of the best sub dpses (xingqiu and xiangling) able to be used in other teams, such as with hu tao, childe, ayaka, etc. and I personally really like that.
basically it comes down to if you want to press skill 3 times for 1 proc per 3seconds or press skill once for 1 proc per second.
also imo, almost all 6 cons 4 star chars are basically a 0 cons 5 star char. ignore this old man. I have lvl 20 Diluc and Childe and a lvl 90 Nolle and lvl 90 Gyoko.
gyoko re run when 😍😍😍😍
Fischl is just better in energy regeneration, yae does way more damage than Fischl
Who win?
Yae c1 gives her more ER which is pretty significant so this comparison is not valid
So if I have a c0 Fish, Yae is better?
yes that would be the case
@@realSuperaTom thanks :D
I have fischl c6 and yae c0, in my opinion fischl is better than yae
I would love to see a comparisson of them using the same artifacts.
Comparisson of NA/CA total damage output, can be done by just using NA/CA to clear an enemy.
Burst damage cannot be compared, yae won that.
This guy is a noob bro...hes comparing characters without their best artifact sets and weapons. I agree that gameplay wise fischl is better, I know that cuz I have C6 fischl and I don't have yae miko.
What's the point when Yae isn't made for CA and NA? It's known her CA and NA multipliers aren't very high, she's a skill and burst sub dps
@@geto_suguru_simpshe can 5-10k na damage and 20-30k ca damage 🤦
Your Yae's stat is way bad because you put too much ER on her, I wouldn't recommend that build to other players.
the ER is a trap on Yae
It’s pathetic that this is even a debate... Yae Mike is such a disappointment.
"Yae Mike" is indeed a disappointment
@@floofflez1134 lmao
It isn't really a debate with a well built Yae lmao
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What if they fix yae’s faulty targeting system from her elemental skill by making each of her totem casts individual lighting strikes upon each possible target within the range, or maybe put a limit by around 5 individual targets. Maybe that would be a more direct upgrade from a c6 oz.
Think about all that quadratic shenanigans you can cook there,
I'm just really disappointed with my Yae, purely because I've given her such good artifacts and investment but my level 50 talent 4 fishcl does just over half the damage on her E?? I had to hit hard pity for Yae so it just increased my overall disappointment
this is why u 1st watch new char multiple reviews and wait few days and then decide to pull or not pull ;)
especially if ur looking for meta chars not for character drip
Tbf most primarily use Yae as a burst support with her E as an Incentive. Plus I think Yae's consistency bests Fischl
@@TechTesting yeah I usually do that with most characters I pull for, she was just so cool that I didn't think twice this time I guess
@@jawn5661 it generally does, but it takes a bit more effort to set up for my liking
@@saf2951 yeah shit happens but i think u ll be fine in a long run, usually hapenns wih most most characters (like kokomi found her op spots, childe etc), especially when dendro drops who knows it could react very well with electro and boost them to meta so no worries man.
If u remember bunch of ppl shitted on raiden for being so bad and now she is considered 1 of the most op chars in game. And 2nd Yae dont have 4pc set so when it comes in future could boost her a lot aswell ;)
Meta wise I would go for Fischl
Simp wise I'll go for both LUL
Lol choose onee. But interesting to see your input of going with fischl haha. Also lmk if I did fine with some of the testing or if you want to add any other test
@@realSuperaTom yeah you forgot to test them both on how well they will do in abyss runs with the same team comps
@@realSuperaTom almost forgot I sent my friend's account for you to review in your next stream account reviews, she's shy so I sent it myself LMFAO she plays in Asia fortunately
@@ZMiRACLE- sounds good I'll work on doing abyss run in comparison vids. however it can be long so not sure how to fit in yet lol
@@ZMiRACLE- ah yes I saw. Thought that was your acc uid you left on LMFAO. All good, I'll review on this Sunday stream, tell your fr it's best to be on stream if possible so I can give her better tailored review
It really is a shame, but Yae Miko has proven very dissapointing at C0, with a costly elemental burst that can easily be outdamaged by even 4 star units with much more manageable energy costs, an elemental skill with poor energy generation (making the burst issue even worse), targeting issues, long deployment times without any kind of protection (i-frames/hyperarmor), as well as requiring as much on-field time as a dedicated main damage unit in order to be properly buffed.
Her passive talents also have problems, as her passive talent 1 requires her to redeploy her elemental skill after using her elemental burst instead of a much more practical effect of simply refreshing totem duration, and her passive talent 2 increases her elemental skill damage based on her elemental mastery stat, which has really low value for any electro units as transformative reactions suffer from low scaling, no critical hits and internal cooldowns.
A much better ability would be to base the damage scaling on energy recharge, therefore motivating players to use weapons such as the Oathsworn Eye, Hakushin Ring and Favonius Codex, as well as the Emblem of Severed Fate artifact set, since the ratio between damage and burst uptime would be much more balanced.
Overrall, Yae Miko at C0 really has no role to fill that can't already be better filled by Fischl and Beidou, which have comparable if not better off field damage and much more manageable energy costs.
Not only that, but locking her energy regeneration potential behind her first constellation seems disingenuous, as the company is basically creating a problem with their unit that can only be fixed by actively spending money, which is a very insidious business model that seeks to act on the gray area at the limits of the Chinese regulations.
I love the character, don't get me wrong, but she has obvious problems that can't be overlooked.
She’s meant to be played with another electro character, mainly fischl or raiden. In fact, raiden and fischl are more similar compared to yae and fischl. Yae is an off field sub/burst dps so comparing her to a sub dps/battery doesn’t make a lot of sense. From what you said in your comment, I get the feeling you’re looking at yae miko by herself, without any teammates, buffs, etc., as her damage is stellar if used correctly. The point of having the 3 totems is to buff her burst damage to the maximum and once you do, at talent level 8, you’ll be seeing 80k per thunder strike (3 in total and another one that’s around 40k), so I’d say it’s more of a viewpoint problem than a character design problem, as that’s what the game is about, making teams that compliment the characters that are on said teams. E.g. yae, raiden/fischl, kazuha/venti/sucrose/sara/zhongli/kokomi/bennett/xingqiu and someone else from that list. Raiden and fischl improve maintaining yae’s energy, venti can do the same if you decide to use him, the 3rd and 4th slots can be many different combinations, but for the sake of simplicity, we’ll use sucrose and bennett. Sucrose will be using 4p vv to reduce the enemies electro resistance and grouping them up, while also buffing yae’s elemental mastery by 166.4 if she’s using a lv90 sacrificial fragments with maxed EM main stat artifacts (not including sub stats) , which she most likely will, therefore increasing her elemental burst’s damage by a whopping 25%. There’s also bennett with a 4p noblesse set and his ult to increase her damage even further. And yes, while you could compare her with beidou, I’d argue beidou is even more niche than yae to use, as her off field damage is mainly aoe and you lose a major amount if you decide to use her against a boss/singular enemy, in which case, fischl or even yae would just be better options. I’m not saying you’re not allowed to have your own opinion, if that’s how you feel about the character, then by all means, but consider thoroughly going through her kit, seeing her problems and finding out what you can do to improve upon them, rather than pointing them out and comparing her to other characters (remember when kokomi was first released and everyone called her a barbara clone, as well as raiden being “underwhelming” and “not worth”? Well look at them now). This is my take on her issues and what she’s good at. If you disagree or have something to add at all or talk about, feel free to respond.
Pros- Good damage, has a lot of versatility, fun and satisfying to play, synergises well with many of the “best” characters, f2p friendly, great character to invest a lot into, as she gets better the more resources go into her/good for late game players.
Cons- dash sometimes feels janky, dash needs small amount of s or super armor, auto targeting in general needs to be fixed, replacing towers after ult seems irrelevant (they should just stay there after ulting), bad character to minimally invest into/bad for beginners as they won’t have “end game” resources to constantly improve her and min-max her immediately, as well as ascending her.
My overall opinion, she’s a solid dps, but nothing special. HoweverI do think the hype from before she got released is what lead to all these “doomposts” and complaints, as many expected her to be the dawn of a new era for electro and/or an over-the-top ganyu-like electro dps, but neither were the case.
What bothers me the most is that her 3 turret mechanic does absolutely nothing for her. Like you can change it to her only having to place 1 turret instead and nothing in her kit would change. So it seems like they added it for the sake of adding it.
@@maxximumcawk9653 she’s meant to be played with Raiden. Why? Banner sales. They wanted to make her an off-field DPS for Raiden. She was originally supposed to be an on-field DPS that utilizes her NAs and CA with Shimenawas, but it got scrapped for reasons that I’m 99% sure are profit related.
@@TacticalDimples I’m pretty sure neither of those are the case. We already have 2 electro characters that focus on normal attacks, Keqing and Raiden herself, making keqing obsolete, as yae would just be a better keqing, and she’d have 0 synergy with raiden. Lore-wise, she’s “eternity’s servant and friend”, so if they didn’t have any synergy, I reckon the lore geeks would riot (and no, both of them being electro doesn’t count). The rumors from the chinese community have no basis, are constantly contradicting themselves, and are all usually copium posts or just plain wrong. Many of them have been incorrect and a character can be changed multiple times during beta before release. Yae was already like this during beta and proceeded to get buffs and changes throughout the whole of 2.4. The reason why she has that 3 turret gimmick is to increase the damage of her ult. At talent level 8, she’d be doing a total of 950.11% damage with her ult if they removed the 3 turret gimmick and only left 1, as opposed to 2018.33% with all 3 of her turrets. Yes, she can be played with raiden, but you can play her with other characters as well. Ofc mihoyo will try to get people to pull, but the same can be said with other characters. Ganyu and ayaka work well with shenhe and kokomi, as well as venti and kazuha. But they’re not a “must pull” in order for them to find a use (kazuha probably is just because he fits well in so many teams). Eula’s whole team can be 4* apart from herself, xiao’s team can be 4* apart from himself, you just need to cover for the character’s weaknesses with the other slots you have and play according to how you built your team. I always try to look at how a character works with other characters first and foremost before making a verdict, as making comparisons like “yae is worse than fischl” or “just wait for baal, she’s a better electro character” is very unhealthy for the game, especially when the characters have no similarities to each other, other than their element. I agree her 3 turrets are annoying to place (especially because she has no s at all or any kind of superarmor, mihoyo, why), but I feel like that’s what makes her kit unique and fun to me, along with an ult that scales with how many turrets there are, she’s kind of like if albedo was a main dps with sub dps capabilities. Anyways, those are my thoughts on her, hope you found them interesting or helpful.
Some of the things you said are true but which 4 star sub dps character have 200-300k nukes?
u know how good a character is when it's being compared to a 4 star
Do you mean 5 star?
Bruh people were saying Kazuha was worse than Sucrose and that Shenhe was just 5 star Rosaria. It legit doesn't matter
@@AkaliakarriAMV Lmao it kinda works both ways if you think about it
A new 5 star is met with criticism most of the time but in yae miko's case, it really isn't without reason. The character as a whole is dysfunctional and her not having a dedicated artifact set only adds to it.
I mean, a C6 4 star is more expensive than a 5 star. There's far less of an RNG cushion to get a 4 star than there is for a 5 star. You can get pity for 4 stars, but even the guaranteed rate up + hard pity gives you a 1/3 to get a particular 4 star. For instance, the maximum summons to get Yae to C2 is 540. The maximum summons to get a C6 Fischl on a rateup is theoretically infinite.
Of course c6 4 star is gonna beat c0 5 star. Also yae's talents aren't even maxed like fischl's, such an unfair comparison. That's like comparing c0 childe to c6 xingqiu or c0 diluc to c6 xiangling, all whilst the 5 star gets a lvl 8 talent handicap while their 4 star counterparts get lvl 13 talent boost.
But 4 star characters have lower base stats compared to 5* characters.
So they have to make it up with constellation levels.
Fischl’s weren’t completely maxed. And People often compare C6 4 stars to C0 5 stars bc they usually take roughly the same amount of wishing. Sometimes C6ing a 4 star can even take way more wishes than a C0 5 star
Fischl wasn't maxed either, yet she outperformed Yae. THAT is a problem.
@@curiouslamb8532 But C6 can be more expensive than than a C1 5 star. You don't really have a true guarantee to pull a 4 star on rateup means your 50/50s are immediately followed by a 1/3. That's why this is slightly skewed. If you win any of the 50/50s for a 5 star, and you're not starting out already having the 4 star in question, a C2 5 star could easily be cheaper. As an anecdote, I had C0 Fischl before this banner. Now I have C1 Yae and C3 Fischl, a C4 Thoma, and a C3 Dionna.
People are too dumb to see those factors. It's been always like this, what's new?
I use both of them C0 yae and C6 Fischl
Just use both
Problem solved
me: how bout use both?
Not everyone has both.
@@TacticalDimples true but if you do you can use both together
me with my c2 yae and c6 fischl. oh no. anyway
c2 yae is really good, way better than c6 fischl for sure
I just got yae miko now and seeing this I dont want to regret pulling her I was having like going to pull yae miko or yoimiya
I kinda just want to use her as an electro support for my scara lol
I think i have a 100% chance to get miko after i failed on nahida banner. 💜I dont really know where can i use miko but i want her for my teapot. Already got fischl c6 and i plan to skip 4.5
Why not use the same artifacts tho, they can both use glad+TF…
I only have C2 Fishl ._. I have enough pulls to get Yae right now. Should I get her or should I save for the next Archon?
this is why after those old 4star units, they just made shit ones (maybe good niche-supports, but overall just crap compared to those old ones)
Seeing that 4pc emblem on Yae is fucking cringe ngl😭
Watching video can be interesting but using a calculator is by far the best thing. Use genshin aspirine for precise results
I feel weird that i have ganyu, baizhu and all other chararcters in their banner c6 and got only one fischl :"(
yae miko is literately an
Inazuma designed Lisa bind with three mini dumb oz
convenient to electro
three mini oz can target three targets
i dont care, that fischl better, waifu>metah
That Fischl "team run" was EXTREMELY skewed, I'd honestly be ashamed to post that run.
Not even gonna comment on the fact that Yae has natural infusion on the solo test
I just love you're video ideas!!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Yae didn't come home, I have Fischl C4, worth building?
even c0 fischl is already worth building
@@realSuperaTom thanks now I got Yae and Fischl C6 now, gonna put them in same team.
The best thing about fischl is she can use Elegy hahaha
my yae skill dmg 12k per tick
🌸🌺I sincerely prefer at C6 Fischl over Yae Miko and find her more enjoyable to play!🌺🌸
🌸🌺I sincerely prefer you stop spamming🌺🌸
YOU JUST BITTER CUZ YOU WANT AYATO AND HAVE TO SETUP UR MIND THAT YAE IS BAD LOLLLLL
@@Lolijbol22 but yae IS bad lmao
@@odin1303 only bad if ur artifact suck, stupid unlucky shit
@@odin1303 definitely not, she's a bit clunky but her damage is definitely not bad
too bad i dont have yae or fischl
What if fischl is c5 is she still the same as c6?
C6 is such a huge boost tho so no i dont think so
Her damage isn’t bad it’s actually pretty good but her problem is just her E malfunctions sometimes and occasionally it also can lock you in animation for a second after you place a totem whereas usually you can dash out of it. Her burst targeting also would make more sense to track like the skill does considering it’s the same exact Kitsune as her skill doing the bolts. Other than that I do think she needs some fixes (especially in targeting the wolf lord) but she doesn’t need a rework or buffs really. Although if they did rework anything I’d change her skill durations to be as long as her burst, allow her to set 3 totems down at the same time so they have the same duration, and make her burst do more damage and have a higher CD to supplement its massive cost/damage. I’d also rework that first passive since it’s only use it to allow for the eeeqeee combo but we wouldn’t need that had they designed the e and w to be in rhythm with each other (if they lasted 23s then you’d have your charges back up anyways and the passive would be useless, it would also allow her to give her teammates more time and justify how they don’t snapshot)
Yae is better 💕 😂...
No tf she’s not 💀
@@odin1303 this comment section is not for meta slave 😂
@@2en2i Yae literally does nothing for the meta, she’s as disposable as a water bottle
@@odin1303 bruh u lost 50/50?? Ryt😂
@@2en2i nah I got her and realised she’s trash. Benching her forever cause fischl and Raiden are a million times better
so even sub-optimally animation cancelling fischl outdamages miko? lmao!
Discord link is dead 😭
I'm sure it still works tho, here you go try this: discord.gg/FpZFYq6kq4
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
When my c0 Fischl does better then c1 Yae-
Impossible ur doing something wrong.
@@klein5564 Nope
It’s better
I tried the same artifacts on each one and Yae sucks don’t try and tell me I’m doing something wrong because I’ve been fine with raiden, xiao , zhongli, Kokomi ,mona and aloy 🙂
@@berry_kay Alright, but if I tell you that my lvl 80 c0 6/7/7 talent yae miko, does more dmg than my lvl 90 6/12/12 c6 fischl what would u say? Lmaoo
This test is really unfair to Yae. Actually it is unfair to catalyst users. Canceling is extremely important. It is like choosing to not animation cancel with klee. Yae miko can get all her totems out instantly with proper canceling. Her charge attack also improves.
Canceling shouldn’t be a thing to begin with. The only catalyst user that actually has a good feeling attack animation is Yanfei.
if its any consolation at least the fischl aarr wasnt that outstanding
It’s not the same. You would need to use same artifact sets with bonuses. Also fischl has +3 levels to her burst & elemental skill. How does that compare to base yae levels?
Because its a c6 fischl comparison.
Fish > YM
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