This was a powerful and tragic video - thank you for creating and sharing this important story. I'd never heard of the Kinzua Dam, and am now sickened by what happened. What a travesty.
Hey Caleb. You were in my "Native American Religions" course at SU many years ago (2013?). I remember that you were working on this project even then. So great to have found the finished version. (BTW) I teach now at SUNY-Oswego and I have assigned your video as part of the workload for the upcoming week. Cheers! Hope that you are well!!
I believe this flood likely flooded over the legendary cave "Cornplanters cave". Said to be a special place Cornplanter found while hunting as a young person. The cave was said to have a series of 3 rooms. In the last room was an underground lake that had blind fish living in it. He would go to this place to pray and meet with others about special business. No one has ever been able to find this cave. But I believe the flood after the damn is why.
My great great grandfather lived in the alleghany River valley in the 1800s,his wife was a Morrison,two of his boys had farms in the town of corydon ,my dad used to fish the river before the kinzua dam was put in.In the mid 60s my dad took me camping in the willow creek valley,pretty remote,by the 1980s more people moved out there ,lots of boating traffick,kind of got built up.
My son and I spent .any summers in the Warren PA Salamanca NY area. Each ear we would go to the Museum before we put the canoe in the water. Such a sad history there. We would find prices of pottery as we pulled up to shore to eat, look for fossils etc. I imagined the state doing this to the small town I was raised in, and my parents refusing to leave. Everything flared over, but not fully eraced. We would also go to the Pow Wow each year, untill finally I just couldn't go any more. It changed so much. The children would be dressed in their finest, dancing in 90 degree heat to a sparse audience, as those that SHOULD have been watching, respecting their dance, would be at the stalls, buying stuff. It had become so commercialized. :(
@@brianjamds6617it is said that they would be equally as effective. The gov’t had already made up their mind though so congress would not budge. Very sad
Memories. Beautiful area. The government took the land. God took down the mighty Kinzua bridge. Now there's a large casino not so far from the reservoir - - The Seneca Allegany Casino & resort. . .sure hope that they are all being compensated from the proceeds.
The Erie Indians were unavailable for comment. As the Iroquois Nation, which the Seneca Indians were a part of, obliterated them out of existence. Interesting how the Seneca can play victims now. At least they still exist.
I know that the building of the dam was the oldest indian peace treaty ever to be broken by the united states goverment,,,very sad,,,,my question,,, is corn planters grave right where they built the dam,,was the removel of corn planters remains ever on film,,and what happened to the other indians that were burried around corn planter did they exhume them or just flood there graves,,,Im very surprised that where the dam is that the land isnt haunted by the spirts of those that were disturbed,,,was corn planter placed in a coffin,,, this video is very educational
The Erie Indians were unavailable for comment. As the Iroquois Nation, which the Seneca Indians were a part of, obliterated them out of existence. Interesting how the Seneca can play victims now. At least they still exist.
This was a powerful and tragic video - thank you for creating and sharing this important story. I'd never heard of the Kinzua Dam, and am now sickened by what happened. What a travesty.
Hey Caleb. You were in my "Native American Religions" course at SU many years ago (2013?). I remember that you were working on this project even then. So great to have found the finished version. (BTW) I teach now at SUNY-Oswego and I have assigned your video as part of the workload for the upcoming week. Cheers! Hope that you are well!!
My family's land was flooded when the dam was built. Titus ancestral land is underwater. 😢
I believe this flood likely flooded over the legendary cave "Cornplanters cave". Said to be a special place Cornplanter found while hunting as a young person. The cave was said to have a series of 3 rooms. In the last room was an underground lake that had blind fish living in it. He would go to this place to pray and meet with others about special business. No one has ever been able to find this cave. But I believe the flood after the damn is why.
The Seneca's are my grandmother's people. She was full Seneca and resided in Erie, PA
My great great grandfather lived in the alleghany River valley in the 1800s,his wife was a Morrison,two of his boys had farms in the town of corydon ,my dad used to fish the river before the kinzua dam was put in.In the mid 60s my dad took me camping in the willow creek valley,pretty remote,by the 1980s more people moved out there ,lots of boating traffick,kind of got built up.
Their are Seneca Refugee Camps along Rt. 62 in President Township and Tionesta our cabin in Tionesta is a 1/2 mile from Cornplanter Rd.
My son and I spent .any summers in the Warren PA Salamanca NY area. Each ear we would go to the Museum before we put the canoe in the water. Such a sad history there. We would find prices of pottery as we pulled up to shore to eat, look for fossils etc. I imagined the state doing this to the small town I was raised in, and my parents refusing to leave. Everything flared over, but not fully eraced. We would also go to the Pow Wow each year, untill finally I just couldn't go any more. It changed so much. The children would be dressed in their finest, dancing in 90 degree heat to a sparse audience, as those that SHOULD have been watching, respecting their dance, would be at the stalls, buying stuff. It had become so commercialized. :(
It should be given back
Lived inTucson 40 years now.
and grew up in Pa. Always loved kinsua dam . Sorry!
There were other options for the dam that would not have affected anyone.
What were they and would they have been as effective?
@@brianjamds6617it is said that they would be equally as effective. The gov’t had already made up their mind though so congress would not budge. Very sad
Memories. Beautiful area. The government took the land. God took down the mighty Kinzua bridge. Now there's a large casino not so far from the reservoir - - The Seneca Allegany Casino & resort. . .sure hope that they are all being compensated from the proceeds.
Disgusting. No respect for tribal rights.
I'm so sorry, I was born in Warren Pennsylva
why did they have to leave cold springs? the dam wasn't going there
when they drain the water in onoville it looks like roads were down there, anyone know ?
The Erie Indians were unavailable for comment. As the Iroquois Nation, which the Seneca Indians were a part of, obliterated them out of existence. Interesting how the Seneca can play victims now. At least they still exist.
A definite case for reparations here
I know that the building of the dam was the oldest indian peace treaty ever to be broken by the united states goverment,,,very sad,,,,my question,,, is corn planters grave right where they built the dam,,was the removel of corn planters remains ever on film,,and what happened to the other indians that were burried around corn planter did they exhume them or just flood there graves,,,Im very surprised that where the dam is that the land isnt haunted by the spirts of those that were disturbed,,,was corn planter placed in a coffin,,, this video is very educational
Cornplanter was buried on his family's tract near the state line if I remember correctly. The government now owns that land.
@@G_FRE He's technically buried its close to the warren mckean co line but he's buried in mckean co out in corydon twp if I remember correctly.
@@Wcingmachiners oh whoops, my bad! Thank you for the correction.
I heard Johnny Cash was adopted by the Seneca Indian Turtle Clan
He was! By my great-grandmother, Nettie Watt in fact!
@@calebg.abrams6104 are you related to the late "Sparky" Watt?
tohsa newenton kora enteseiehtakwe/wahiakeron rothahiionni.
When is the Remembrance Day?
Remember the Removal is held annually on the last Saturday of September.
Poor bbs
1959, where the Allegheny and the ,
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The U.S. can take anyones land. Did you ever hear of eminent domain?
The alleghanian the Congo,
It takes a lot of intelligent Indians to stop the building of a dam. A treaty based on the Pis is likely to be broken. Learn from your errors.
The Erie Indians were unavailable for comment. As the Iroquois Nation, which the Seneca Indians were a part of, obliterated them out of existence. Interesting how the Seneca can play victims now. At least they still exist.