"Not an accident:" Governments and NHS covered-up infected blood scandal, report finds | LBC

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  • LBC's Charlotte Lynch gives a breakdown of the findings from the Infected Blood Inquiry:
    - The investigation accuses doctors, the government and NHS of trying to cover-up infected blood scandal.
    - Tens of thousands of people were given contaminated blood and blood products between the 1970s and early 1990s.
    - A deliberate decision to destroy crucial paperwork
    - Children were used as "objects for research" at Lord Mayor Treloar College in 70s and 80s
    - Inquiry chair calls for compensation scheme to be set up now
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 188

  • @rick161179
    @rick161179 23 дні тому +92

    Lets not forget that as recently as the 5th December 2023, this Tory Government led by Sunak voted enmass to delay payments of compensation to the victims. Thankfully 22 Tory MPs broke ranks and voted to support the amendment. So when Sunak is on the airwaves later saying it's disgusting what has happened to these people, just remember he was pushing to delay any compensation.

    • @therealrobertbirchall
      @therealrobertbirchall 23 дні тому +16

      As a survivor of the contaminated blood disaster we have been listening to lies damed lies and more lies for nearly 50 years. We are never surprised at the depravity of British governments over the years. The post office scandal is just another example of how the UK operates, and always has operated, the people don't matter all that is important is covering up gross ministerial malfeasance.

    • @malcolmmitchell6529
      @malcolmmitchell6529 23 дні тому +2

      Our wonderful unelected indian. Are we NUTS?

    • @cosmicmusicreynolds3266
      @cosmicmusicreynolds3266 23 дні тому +2

      Yes we let them get away with it ,mmmmm I wonder how many of those people voted for him. Sounds insensitive but worth thinking about.

    • @mickmaphari6606
      @mickmaphari6606 23 дні тому

      Not to mention Jeremy Hunt who has been waffling on about one of his constituents whom he promised justice to about 10 years ago ...
      Delaying compensation pays for tax breaks to bribe the electorate in the run-up to the election, right?

    • @mimikhan9546
      @mimikhan9546 23 дні тому +1

      My sister died
      From
      Hep C.

  • @parametr
    @parametr 23 дні тому +28

    Paying compensations is making taxpayers responsible for the wrongdoing.
    Pay compensation, but PURSUE CRIMINAL CHARGES.
    I didn't see any MP sending letter to the police to PURSUE CRIMINAL CHARGES. Did I?

    • @Jon-xw9om
      @Jon-xw9om 23 дні тому +1

      Same with SPM and PO. Corporate profits/State compensation scheme - again.

    • @URFUTUREUK
      @URFUTUREUK 12 днів тому

      No point telling the police they ignore it I've tried getting NHS criminally responsible for GBH on a scandal lasting twenty years.

  • @sergiodbd
    @sergiodbd 23 дні тому +33

    Not just compensation but culpability…

    • @blue_jay31
      @blue_jay31 23 дні тому +1

      For sure !

    • @Andrew-wl2mt
      @Andrew-wl2mt 23 дні тому

      I think our NHS and government have proved they are willing to set any one up to cover their backs,COVID ,post office ,blood I'd look at nurses cases who were sent to prison as they won't take the blame for anything.

  • @derekwhite2929
    @derekwhite2929 23 дні тому +23

    Still reeling from the effects of the HCV I acquired from infected plasma, even though I got rid of the virus itself in 2017!
    It's been over 20yrs of trauma and struggle and absolute nightmarish hellish fiasco! That's still ongoing!

  • @AgentLynch616
    @AgentLynch616 22 дні тому +8

    I’m currently having to care for my mother who has terminal cancer. I visit her every day in hospital and the incompetence I have witnessed is unbelievable. There is no communication. No leadership. I’m having to do the job of nurses and doctors to make sure my mother is cared for. The NHS in my opinion is no longer fit for purpose in its current state

    • @Nic01a
      @Nic01a 22 дні тому

      I had the same experience with my mum and cancer in 2022. The state of care was shocking. I wish I did go to PALS but to be quite honest, I was exhausted and grieving.

    • @URFUTUREUK
      @URFUTUREUK 12 днів тому

      Bless you. She has you at least.

  • @user-em6ie2be7x
    @user-em6ie2be7x 23 дні тому +50

    I can only imagine how many people died because The Government & NHS wanted to Cover-up incompetence.

    • @robokill387
      @robokill387 22 дні тому +3

      In this case, it wasn't incompetence but deliberate.

    • @user-em6ie2be7x
      @user-em6ie2be7x 22 дні тому +2

      @@robokill387 WOW...that makes this even worse.

    • @treehouse8175
      @treehouse8175 22 дні тому

      Nothing new history tells us all theres no limit when power is in the hands of trusted people who have no heart soul or limits for ££££ 40yrs later finally a Public Inquiry 😢too little too late my heart goes out to the Vitims and their loved ones. Injustice beyond belief.

    • @FreeSpeechThought
      @FreeSpeechThought 22 дні тому

      And of course £100,000,000,000 shoveled into the pockets of tory chums and donors. Never forget 'boris' making a speech about taking advantage of the opportunities provided by COVID...

    • @Bodman68
      @Bodman68 21 день тому

      I was infected at 14 years old in 1982, I'm fortunate to be here. It's shocking what happened and I'm sure big pharma will be made to pay. The government waste more money on housing illegal immigrants so don't moan if taxpayers pay towards it, I'm a taxpayer too and we all know our money is wasted on many things.

  • @mimikhan9546
    @mimikhan9546 23 дні тому +13

    DONT TRUST YOUR GOVERNMENT
    NOR YOUR GP
    EVER AGAIN.

    • @windymiller6908
      @windymiller6908 22 дні тому +1

      you forgot the banks, who I've dealt with as little as possible for many years.

  • @averatsonemery4719
    @averatsonemery4719 23 дні тому +17

    "We do not recommend criminal prosecutions...because legally we can't"
    I love the UK legal system, don't you?

    • @julesmorgan5986
      @julesmorgan5986 23 дні тому +1

      Gave Crown Prosecution Service something to look at for just that, tho'...

  • @asadnawaz1502
    @asadnawaz1502 23 дні тому +31

    I want to know who was the contractor who sold these products to NHS.

    • @therealrobertbirchall
      @therealrobertbirchall 23 дні тому +8

      There was no contractor involved in 1975 when I was infected with HCV. It was the NHS and the department for health under the leadership of one Dr David Owen MD MP.

    • @Skygrey2943
      @Skygrey2943 23 дні тому +2

      I'm not sure, but a certain well known brand in Germany knowingly sold infected blood products to Latin America and Asia in the 80s.

    • @jake751
      @jake751 23 дні тому +2

      America

    • @futures2247
      @futures2247 23 дні тому +1

      Bayer

    • @therealrobertbirchall
      @therealrobertbirchall 23 дні тому

      @@Skygrey2943 they still do

  • @cmasseylynch
    @cmasseylynch 23 дні тому +5

    What all these scandals highlight for me is the utter contempt - the Govt , MPs , the Judiciary , the Civil Service , the Police The Post Office The Water Companies NHS bosses- have for ordinary people. Am i making myself clear -

  • @finlayfraser9952
    @finlayfraser9952 23 дні тому +14

    There are those who were directly responsible who will never be held to account, they have either died, or are in their dotage. We know that there are those in a certain strata in society who never pay the price for their egregious decision making. Compensation, how about imprisonment?

  • @mufccharliemufcglazersout
    @mufccharliemufcglazersout 23 дні тому +25

    Trust the governments they say you got to be joking

    • @truth121
      @truth121 23 дні тому +2

      Biggest joke in history 😂😂

    • @magnuscarlsson9969
      @magnuscarlsson9969 23 дні тому

      Honestly that a mistake(the blood scandal) happens, it's sad, devastating, horrendous and plainly said criminal, the cover up however is unforgivable... there's no fixing the cover up, it will forever be there as a stain on everything... if they covered that one up, what else have they covered up? The little trust which remained, shattered into small little pieces.

    • @iknowyoureright8564
      @iknowyoureright8564 23 дні тому

      You all trusted them with the vacks, multiple of them too

  • @derekwhite2929
    @derekwhite2929 23 дні тому +15

    This debacle literally ruined my life!

    • @user-no5ee7nn9d
      @user-no5ee7nn9d 23 дні тому +4

      I'm so sorry for you and everybody who has been affected.
      It's the least I can say.❤️

  • @petertaylor8922
    @petertaylor8922 23 дні тому +12

    In my mid 20's (1975) I bought a 100 year old row house & renovated it.
    I first started with demolition because one can't build on what was done before...you keep the pieces that work & dispose of the rest.
    Britain needs a huge overhaul (renovation)..but it'll never happen when mired in cultural manusia.
    Get the influence of the Monarchy, C of E & big money out of politics.
    Prosecute those who ‘sabotage’ democracy which is meant to represent all the people equitably.
    Put severe limits on wealth accumulation.
    Power corrupts, ultimate power corrupts ultimately.
    A democracy can only operate when there is accountabilty to the rule of law.
    Nobody is above the law.

  • @blue_jay31
    @blue_jay31 23 дні тому +11

    There is no word for this ! That I can write here !

    • @lw1zfog
      @lw1zfog 21 день тому

      it’s spelled ‘democide’

  • @Andrew-wl2mt
    @Andrew-wl2mt 23 дні тому +7

    We've had the blood scandal and cover up ,We've had the covid scandal and cover up the post office scandal and cover up back to the nhs does anything make you think that some of these nurses that have supposedly hurt people and been sent to prison could also be scapegoats for a cover up.

  • @321itstimetostandup
    @321itstimetostandup 23 дні тому +7

    We need to kick off at the government but we are cowards

  • @derekwhite2929
    @derekwhite2929 23 дні тому +7

    There's no justice here, none!

  • @yetidodger6650
    @yetidodger6650 23 дні тому +9

    the old boys network in full action.

  • @davidcousins3508
    @davidcousins3508 22 дні тому +2

    One can only imagine what other health scandal might embroil the NHS in the future ..

  • @janaka861
    @janaka861 23 дні тому +8

    First the Postmaster disaster. Now this. What is happening?

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 23 дні тому +2

      @jan And there won't be a single prosecution in either scandal!

    • @user-re9bm7he6v
      @user-re9bm7he6v 23 дні тому

      COVID vaccine damage

    • @windymiller6908
      @windymiller6908 22 дні тому

      and that's what we know about. You can bet there's more scandals that we don't know about, though doubt there's anything as bad as this. How can people have any trust with lowlife politicians after this.

  • @stephenholmes1036
    @stephenholmes1036 23 дні тому +3

    In December 1975 World in Action did an excellent 2 part programme on this very subject.
    The then Labour health minister was interviewed Dr David Owen.
    The programme went to the USA showed the blood gathering centre's, donors, doctors specialists and recipients.
    Its available on you tube

  • @derekwhite2929
    @derekwhite2929 23 дні тому +10

    Currently I'm in a care home in Warwickshire, and they're still pushing me for a DNR, again!

    • @vickie5706
      @vickie5706 23 дні тому

      Stand strong !they did that in hospitals to bump up the numbers of Covid deaths.
      Any doubt watch the Scottish Covid enquiry.

    • @vickie5706
      @vickie5706 23 дні тому

      They hid my comment. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @vickie5706
      @vickie5706 23 дні тому

      Refuse Medazolam.

    • @derekwhite2929
      @derekwhite2929 23 дні тому

      @@vickie5706
      Didn't you already have an inquiry about infected blood years ago, and it's cover up?

    • @derekwhite2929
      @derekwhite2929 23 дні тому +3

      @@vickie5706
      Absolutely I've been refusing the booster jabs they keep pushing as well
      🤦‍♂️👎👀🙈

  • @sheeple937
    @sheeple937 22 дні тому +4

    Modazalan and mophene scandal and covid jab scandal yet to come

  • @youMEtubeUK
    @youMEtubeUK 22 дні тому +2

    “Biggest scandal on the NHS” so far…

  • @allangilchrist5938
    @allangilchrist5938 22 дні тому +3

    As usual the guilty will escape justice. They will continue to enjoy their blood-stained stained honours, titles and gold-plated pensions.

  • @rebahenderson211
    @rebahenderson211 23 дні тому +2

    Why are these people in charge never found responsible ? Criminal behavior all around.

  • @Lizziesouth
    @Lizziesouth 23 дні тому +3

    To think the Tory government knowing this is still trying to do further cuts on people with disability is insulting

  • @martincotterill823
    @martincotterill823 23 дні тому +2

    Can we please have a round of applause for the NHS?

  • @Azhark94
    @Azhark94 23 дні тому +2

    The government needs to stop delaying.

  • @djolivierastro
    @djolivierastro 23 дні тому +3

    Same scandal happened in France

  • @BrianFairlamb
    @BrianFairlamb 23 дні тому +4

    Why is no one prosecuted EVER..

    • @malcolmmitchell6529
      @malcolmmitchell6529 23 дні тому +1

      Try not paying your rent, that will do it.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 23 дні тому

      @Brian Because they are all covering each others backs!

    • @BrianFairlamb
      @BrianFairlamb 23 дні тому

      @@chatham43 yes i believe that

  • @w462dh
    @w462dh 20 днів тому

    At this stage i don't know what to belive now in this world. this is totally unbelievable it has happened and got covered up for years.

  • @PharmaTroll
    @PharmaTroll 23 дні тому +3

    Exactly the same is happening now with covid vaccines and childhood vaccines. Why isn't RS saying sorry for these. Will even this timid comment be censored? I could be saying far far worse.

    • @lw1zfog
      @lw1zfog 22 дні тому

      Shhhhhhjh ! 🤫
      don’t disturb the guinea pigs, they don’t like it

  • @muhammadalieesaa3379
    @muhammadalieesaa3379 21 день тому

    It's disgraceful & it's beyond me.

  • @chatham43
    @chatham43 23 дні тому

    Governments continually accepted what was told to them over the decades without any rigorous investigation as to what actually happened to avoid paying the compensation bill. Shameful!

  • @ceesjanmol
    @ceesjanmol 23 дні тому +2

    Oh you poor people. To now find that you should have never ever trusted your government, even before Brexit.

  • @ignatiusee3564
    @ignatiusee3564 23 дні тому +4

    How ironic. Uk best friend America.

    • @stephenholmes1036
      @stephenholmes1036 23 дні тому +1

      Watch the World in Action 2 part documentary filmed in 1975 it will shock you.
      David Owen was then the
      Health secretary was interviewed on the programme.
      It available on you tube

  • @IMBlakeley
    @IMBlakeley 23 дні тому +2

    BiL of a work colleague died of AIDS acquired from clotting factor.

  • @chatham43
    @chatham43 23 дні тому +1

    Prosecutions?....don't hold your breath!!

  • @jinglefun2158
    @jinglefun2158 22 дні тому +1

    am still confused with this contradicting statement, actually.
    John Glen in his statement to the house says and I quote. " No immediate changes will be made to the existing support schemes, payments will continue to be made at the same level, (until 31st March 2025).
    And they will not be deducted from any of these Compensation awards.
    From 1st April 2025, any support scheme payments received, will be counted towards the beneficiaries Final Compensation award.
    This will ensure parity between support scheme beneficiaries regardless of whether they were the first or the last to have their Compensation assessed by the Infected Blood Compensation Authority and we will ensure that no-one will receive less in Compensation, than they would have, in Support payments.??
    What is this guy saying?
    In essence according to this statement ,after they receive a full lump sum Compensation payment, do they continue to receive the monthly (index-linked) support payment they get now.
    Both schemes (by Sir Brian and Sir Robert Francis stated the monthly support scheme payments were to continue for life even after Full compensation has been made.
    According to Glen's statement, will monthly support scheme payments still be made, once Full Compensation is paid beyond April 25 or not?

  • @ansarmiah3626
    @ansarmiah3626 23 дні тому +1

    What about now and past few years ago people's who have been given blood are they been given infected blood should they go to hospital for check up?

  • @davidgreen6490
    @davidgreen6490 23 дні тому +8

    The biggest scandal in the UK right now is how James O'Brien has not lost his job yet for racism and Anglophobia..

    • @therealrobertbirchall
      @therealrobertbirchall 23 дні тому +2

      No one likes the Anglos though.

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable 23 дні тому +4

      your mascara is running david.

    • @alanbeaumont4848
      @alanbeaumont4848 23 дні тому

      A bigger scandal than thousands of deaths? Get your perspective checked.

    • @davidgreen6490
      @davidgreen6490 23 дні тому +2

      @@therealrobertbirchall How is your comment not removed for racism??

  • @jrobs1133
    @jrobs1133 23 дні тому +1

    We should definitely bring more things into public ownership so they too can be the envy of the world.

    • @Tazza81
      @Tazza81 22 дні тому

      Public ownership has nothing to do with it. The private companies in the US who provided the blood and plasma knew that the blood was infected but they did nothing.

  • @derekwhite2929
    @derekwhite2929 22 дні тому

    Having got rid of the HCV in 2017 my concerns been much more about whether I can recover and how to do that!?

  • @richyjay330
    @richyjay330 23 дні тому

    Another f'up by those in authority. Absolutely disgusting and shameful, to be covering up things like this!

  • @Sat-Man-Alpha
    @Sat-Man-Alpha 23 дні тому +4

    This sounds like a bunch of Dr. Mengeles run amok in a few UK governments 😢

  • @charlierichards5865
    @charlierichards5865 23 дні тому

    The ironic thing is that prosecution is impossible because modern day law doesn’t apply to 1980s/90s

  • @derekwhite2929
    @derekwhite2929 23 дні тому

    This malicious stuff has to go!

  • @kanedNunable
    @kanedNunable 23 дні тому

    tory scandal? oh im shocked.

  • @ellismeah8110
    @ellismeah8110 23 дні тому

    Clearly the Authourities are exempt from any responsibility, or prosecution

  • @earlbutler6213
    @earlbutler6213 23 дні тому

    Wow !
    What kind of people are you.

  • @keithalderson100
    @keithalderson100 23 дні тому

    And their current and recent advice ought to be followed to ensure health remains at the level required to establish British medicine at the forefront of our endeavours; to control unhealpful independent assesment, which will undermine trust in these endeavours to secure the employment of non-medical staff. THANK YOU

  • @spartacusforlife1508
    @spartacusforlife1508 23 дні тому +2

    We need legislation which forces politicians and organisations, with threat of imprisonment, to come clean when scandals like this occur. The simple fact is the blood scandal is not a lone occurance. Hillsborough, Orgreave, the post office etc. All concern organisations overseen by government. All kicked into the long grass to save government ministers face or prosecution or financial compensation. I will make a prediction. We will see an MRNA vaccine enquiry in 20 yrs time even though thousands have already been harmed and we simply don't know what long term harm has been done to others

  • @marieburns118
    @marieburns118 23 дні тому +1

    They are all lying they new it all

  • @carlishiggins
    @carlishiggins 23 дні тому

    but victims of the infected blood scandal will get peanuts but Postmasters who are siblings of wealthy tories will get Millions in compensation per head

  • @jamesrice1187
    @jamesrice1187 23 дні тому +1

    Re: The Infected Blood Inquirey.
    Kenneth Clarke: the acceptable face of the Tories. Really?!!!
    Séamus, Hemel Hempstead

  • @Bazball-vg2bh
    @Bazball-vg2bh 23 дні тому +3

    Blame the wonderful NHS who covered it up and caused it in the first place

    • @muhammadalieesaa3379
      @muhammadalieesaa3379 21 день тому

      We also was told to clap for the NHS during Covid when we were in lockdown. That was a waste of time clapping for them. Some people have those stickers on their front room windows saying: THANK YOU NHS with a rainbow over it. Thank you for what? I would take those stickers down.

  • @barbaramohammed152
    @barbaramohammed152 23 дні тому +1

    😳😭👂

  • @user-xd2iq1ng6p
    @user-xd2iq1ng6p 23 дні тому +10

    We need to listen to those screaming from the rooftops about their covid jabs injuries! It's the same thing happening again here. They are also trying to cover this up , rise up humanity ❤🎉 we need to be free from this evil system once and for all

    • @vickie5706
      @vickie5706 23 дні тому +3

      Exactly! Look up Scottish Covid enquiry!
      It’s all coming out.

    • @scottie55
      @scottie55 23 дні тому

      Funny that I've never heard of these injuries, although I did know a few people who refused the vaccine and paid for their stupidity with their lives.

    • @Terry-io8ji
      @Terry-io8ji 23 дні тому +1

      Revelation 6:1-17…

    • @lw1zfog
      @lw1zfog 22 дні тому

      jimmy not interested, he was fully behind it all & promoted it daily, so is now well bloodied

  • @sheeple937
    @sheeple937 22 дні тому +4

    James pushed jabs, this blood scandal is a drop compared to the covid jabs

  • @sheeple937
    @sheeple937 22 дні тому +2

    Wait till vaids from gene therapy

  • @user-ys5pv3dj8q
    @user-ys5pv3dj8q 22 дні тому +2

    This would cause a trust issue!

  • @marksteele8037
    @marksteele8037 23 дні тому +2

    Remember that time these same people told us to roll our sleeves up and take part in a clinical trail and most of yous done it. Or when people like james would ridicule people with genuine concerns about it. yous are only offended when the media tell you to be 😂😂

  • @cachecow
    @cachecow 23 дні тому

    Not a new story

  • @dmitrymuraviev8453
    @dmitrymuraviev8453 23 дні тому

    More medical immigrants will save UK and Ireland. Can we trust foreign medics?

  • @allangilchrist5938
    @allangilchrist5938 22 дні тому

    I'm told that Lord Ken Clarke the BBC's pet Tory has been named.

  • @robinmyman
    @robinmyman 23 дні тому

    Bliar.

  • @unibks4382
    @unibks4382 23 дні тому

    This happens because we don't Labour Friends of Postmasters / Haemophiliacs, Conservative Friends of Postmasters / Haemophiliacs, Liberal Friends of Postmasters / Haemophiliacs. Instead MPs have other priorities. Nothing will change because turkeys always vote for Christmas.

  • @lw1zfog
    @lw1zfog 22 дні тому +1

    saFE & eFfEcTiVe & fULLy tE$TeD toO !

  • @jmcm88th
    @jmcm88th 22 дні тому +2

    Infected blood scandal pales in comparison to covid scandal 😳👍

  • @jimcourt9164
    @jimcourt9164 23 дні тому +3

    The blood donors are to blame. And we know what sorts they were

    • @Skygrey2943
      @Skygrey2943 23 дні тому +14

      No, it is the people who set up blood banks in neighbourhoods blighted by poverty and drugs that are to blame. It is them who sold the blood on, and its the NHS who didn't ask where it came from. It is also the NHS that covered it up.

    • @fabiotabaton314
      @fabiotabaton314 23 дні тому

      🤫!!!!!!!

    • @danmayberry1185
      @danmayberry1185 23 дні тому +1

      Undiagnosed sorts?

    • @firefox5926
      @firefox5926 23 дні тому +6

      oh tell me what sort were they ?

    • @jimcourt9164
      @jimcourt9164 23 дні тому +1

      @@firefox5926 the Freddie Mercury’s

  • @neilgillespie4498
    @neilgillespie4498 22 дні тому

    What else have they lied about? Booster shots anyone?? No surly not!!

  • @jeffersonwaters9970
    @jeffersonwaters9970 23 дні тому

    it's great living in Britain, isn't it?

    • @olusphone
      @olusphone 23 дні тому +2

      until you realise everything is rigged!