Have you had luck deploying scripts to a firm using Nonica? I am looking to deploy and have Nonica Pro. I see how it can deploy but seems to be missing some functionality for deploying.
I find deploying to firms using anything quite challenging - getting people to even use or install tools can often be a hurdle (I'm too busy, will do it later - and then later never happens). I know people who have had luck in medium sized firms, although Orkestra and pyRevit (my preference) are quite popular when you hit the 150+ scale.
Looks like a handy tool, would be cool if this was a built-in feature of Revit. AutoCAD has/had the ability to create custom menu’s which could trigger a command. I remember using a custom AutoCAD menu many years ago. I wonder if that feature still exists if you use classic workspace…..
I expect it probably does still have it in some capacity, Autodesk tends to chuck on new features but rarely phase them out (even when they probably should be!).
Have you used either CHAT GPT or Bard to create .dyn scripts that can be imported into Dynamo and run through RVT? I've been trying to play around with this, but I've been unsuccessful. Thanks for the content!
Generally I find chatGPT is really a guide at best, it cant write dyn scripts but only instruct. These days I use it for help in Python sometimes, but find people are always needed to fix errors it makes.
I am testing the Nonica toolbar. Pretty cool so far. I do have a question that I cannot seem to find the answer to, i have a script to find and set location lines for walls. I want to show the code numbering either in the Nonica dialog for this tool only or maybe add something to the script so it shows. Any suggestions? This is what I want it to show: 0: Wall Centerline 1: Core Centerline 2: Finished Face Exterior 3: Finished Face Interior 4: Core Face Exterior 5: Core Face Interior This will remind my users what code to use when running the search input and the replacement input. Thanks!
The easiest way before 2023 to do this is by putting them into a string node and making them an input without it going anywhere, then putting the integer slider below. In 2023 you can add tooltips in dynamo player to better explain the script and in 2024 they have a custom list item dropdown node.
@@AussieBIMGuru I did reach out to Nonica as well and they mentioned a custom selection node to add to the Dynamo graph. I am going to try that first. Thanks for responding!
Just in case somebody is interested in our proposed solution for this case: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FxxVx8-LMXVGODKXtEW5ap6Un5MqIuEf?usp=sharing
any chance you have / know where to find a script to apply a simple in-place king stud model to all door frame families in a given model, based on door frame height/width?
Hrm no haven't tried that before. It would really depend what category the king stud is as to how it would be placed. If it's structural framing then you could take a doors location point, extend it either direction by its width/2 and then use that to place a structural framing element if you're using that category.
I don't understand Nonica is this is better than using Dynamo Player. Sure, its an Add-in. But so is Dynamo Player already. It does the exact same thing and it's even slightly worse because you can't really be as flexible when writting a script as you can when using Dynamo Player. So I can't really find any reason why I would use this over Dynamo Player. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I would love to learn more.
A few things to unpack there... first of all Data-shapes can enable many UI types that just aren't possible using Dynamo Player. Take for example a pre-filtered selection, or a dropdown/list view for multi-selection to collect a pre-filtered list of elements from a model based on their name or values. If you can build zero touch nodes it's possible to do most things, but most people can't. Data-shapes also allows you to detect when a UI has been incorrectly run or cancelled, so gives more safety if a user makes a mistake. In regards to Nonica itself, I've found it convenient to have my scripts available all the time, with no need to load up Dynamo player or navigate to script folders or scroll through a big folder of scripts. Here and there I use Dynamo Player still for ease of 'replaying' a function, but all the tools here I typically herald from a toolbar currently. I store a few separate toolbars for project specific tasks, and being able to switch to different profiles is much easier/quicker than having to repath Dynamo Player I've found. As well as this I've noticed some users receive the toolbar format much more favourably than Dynamo Player/Data-Shapes when combined. The player UI turns a lot of users off when they are new or not interested in learning Dynamo itself. Hope that clarifies some potential considerations/benefits.
Thanks for your message. Glad to reply to this one as well. For Dynamo script developers, NonicaTab PRO enables easy and intuitive interaction with your scripts. All scripts are grouped and tied to icons easy to find and you can even run them from keyboard shortcuts! You can also use NonicaTab PRO to share your toolbars with other users and there is no need that the other user installs Dynamo packages as they are automatically installed within the Export Import process. For non Dynamo users, the interaction with Dynamo scripts is completely different in Dynamo Player and NonicaTab PRO. Dynamo player lists scripts and allows you to change inputs before running but what about if you know nothing about the scripts. How would you know which scripts required inputs so you can adjust values? How would you know what each script does? NonicaTab simplify the learning process. You set your buttons with your icons and detailed explanations and then just run it. If the script is set with Input nodes, NonicaTab PRO will ask for values and if not it will be run. As said, you can then share your toolbars in two clicks with as many users as you wish. No set up required!
@@AussieBIMGuru I have installed the free trial for NonicaTab PRO version so I'm assuming I have all functionalities. Will keep digging, maybe something on my end. Thanks!
@@dolanklock8452 This feature was included in NonicaTab PRO and FREE a few months ago. Custom nodes with dropdowns are also detected in the input window.
Haha yes I play around with quite a few packages, but find myself mostly using Python and Crumple these days. Wombat is an interesting package, has a few handy and obscure nodes that other packages don't.
@@AussieBIMGuru dissalow allow wall join :0 Im a noob so this was the holy grail for me. Thanks so much for the content btw you are literally my Dynamo god father.
Great presentation will try out for sure
Glad you enjoyed it!
Have you had luck deploying scripts to a firm using Nonica? I am looking to deploy and have Nonica Pro. I see how it can deploy but seems to be missing some functionality for deploying.
I find deploying to firms using anything quite challenging - getting people to even use or install tools can often be a hurdle (I'm too busy, will do it later - and then later never happens). I know people who have had luck in medium sized firms, although Orkestra and pyRevit (my preference) are quite popular when you hit the 150+ scale.
Looks like a handy tool, would be cool if this was a built-in feature of Revit. AutoCAD has/had the ability to create custom menu’s which could trigger a command. I remember using a custom AutoCAD menu many years ago. I wonder if that feature still exists if you use classic workspace…..
I expect it probably does still have it in some capacity, Autodesk tends to chuck on new features but rarely phase them out (even when they probably should be!).
Have you used either CHAT GPT or Bard to create .dyn scripts that can be imported into Dynamo and run through RVT? I've been trying to play around with this, but I've been unsuccessful. Thanks for the content!
Generally I find chatGPT is really a guide at best, it cant write dyn scripts but only instruct. These days I use it for help in Python sometimes, but find people are always needed to fix errors it makes.
I am testing the Nonica toolbar. Pretty cool so far. I do have a question that I cannot seem to find the answer to, i have a script to find and set location lines for walls. I want to show the code numbering either in the Nonica dialog for this tool only or maybe add something to the script so it shows. Any suggestions? This is what I want it to show:
0: Wall Centerline
1: Core Centerline
2: Finished Face Exterior
3: Finished Face Interior
4: Core Face Exterior
5: Core Face Interior
This will remind my users what code to use when running the search input and the replacement input. Thanks!
The easiest way before 2023 to do this is by putting them into a string node and making them an input without it going anywhere, then putting the integer slider below. In 2023 you can add tooltips in dynamo player to better explain the script and in 2024 they have a custom list item dropdown node.
@@AussieBIMGuru I did reach out to Nonica as well and they mentioned a custom selection node to add to the Dynamo graph. I am going to try that first. Thanks for responding!
Just in case somebody is interested in our proposed solution for this case:
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FxxVx8-LMXVGODKXtEW5ap6Un5MqIuEf?usp=sharing
any chance you have / know where to find a script to apply a simple in-place king stud model to all door frame families in a given model, based on door frame height/width?
Hrm no haven't tried that before. It would really depend what category the king stud is as to how it would be placed. If it's structural framing then you could take a doors location point, extend it either direction by its width/2 and then use that to place a structural framing element if you're using that category.
That fair dinkum Dynamo.
Haha fair dinkum indeed, always nice to meet people versed in the ocker dialect ;)
I don't understand Nonica is this is better than using Dynamo Player. Sure, its an Add-in. But so is Dynamo Player already. It does the exact same thing and it's even slightly worse because you can't really be as flexible when writting a script as you can when using Dynamo Player. So I can't really find any reason why I would use this over Dynamo Player. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I would love to learn more.
A few things to unpack there... first of all Data-shapes can enable many UI types that just aren't possible using Dynamo Player. Take for example a pre-filtered selection, or a dropdown/list view for multi-selection to collect a pre-filtered list of elements from a model based on their name or values. If you can build zero touch nodes it's possible to do most things, but most people can't. Data-shapes also allows you to detect when a UI has been incorrectly run or cancelled, so gives more safety if a user makes a mistake.
In regards to Nonica itself, I've found it convenient to have my scripts available all the time, with no need to load up Dynamo player or navigate to script folders or scroll through a big folder of scripts. Here and there I use Dynamo Player still for ease of 'replaying' a function, but all the tools here I typically herald from a toolbar currently. I store a few separate toolbars for project specific tasks, and being able to switch to different profiles is much easier/quicker than having to repath Dynamo Player I've found.
As well as this I've noticed some users receive the toolbar format much more favourably than Dynamo Player/Data-Shapes when combined. The player UI turns a lot of users off when they are new or not interested in learning Dynamo itself.
Hope that clarifies some potential considerations/benefits.
Thanks for your message. Glad to reply to this one as well.
For Dynamo script developers, NonicaTab PRO enables easy and intuitive interaction with your scripts. All scripts are grouped and tied to icons easy to find and you can even run them from keyboard shortcuts! You can also use NonicaTab PRO to share your toolbars with other users and there is no need that the other user installs Dynamo packages as they are automatically installed within the Export Import process.
For non Dynamo users, the interaction with Dynamo scripts is completely different in Dynamo Player and NonicaTab PRO. Dynamo player lists scripts and allows you to change inputs before running but what about if you know nothing about the scripts. How would you know which scripts required inputs so you can adjust values? How would you know what each script does? NonicaTab simplify the learning process. You set your buttons with your icons and detailed explanations and then just run it. If the script is set with Input nodes, NonicaTab PRO will ask for values and if not it will be run. As said, you can then share your toolbars in two clicks with as many users as you wish. No set up required!
Any idea why Nonica does not recognize more than 1 input ?
Hrm strange I can see more than one, but I'm using pro. Might be a limit on the free version?
@@AussieBIMGuru I have installed the free trial for NonicaTab PRO version so I'm assuming I have all functionalities. Will keep digging, maybe something on my end. Thanks!
@@AussieBIMGuru The reason it wasn't showing inputs is because they were nodes from custom packages. Nonica only accepts native nodes as inputs!
@@dolanklock8452 ah that is good to know! Will let the developer know in case it is possible to change this in future.
@@dolanklock8452 This feature was included in NonicaTab PRO and FREE a few months ago. Custom nodes with dropdowns are also detected in the input window.
me wide eye-ing your package list, installing wombat, and getting completely sidetracked for 5 hours...
Haha yes I play around with quite a few packages, but find myself mostly using Python and Crumple these days. Wombat is an interesting package, has a few handy and obscure nodes that other packages don't.
@@AussieBIMGuru dissalow allow wall join :0 Im a noob so this was the holy grail for me. Thanks so much for the content btw you are literally my Dynamo god father.