Jim Cornette Reviews AEW Blood And Guts: Inner Circle vs. The Pinnacle
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- From Episode 380 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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Needless to say, this is the one we've all been waiting for.
Nah, that was him ripping Miro and Kip for an hour.
@@WorldTravelA320 I meant for this week.
Pocket vs kenny omega match would be good for AEW just because of pockets winning wrestler of yr in pro wrestling illustrated
Wouldn’t you know who won the pony?
Oh no. Let me know if its safe to listen lol Im scared for them lol
Bryan alcatraz (Alvarez) tried to make excuses for that ending. He said it wasn't a crash pad but boxes covered by steel I think. I was like dude it was a crash pad with cardboard steel lol.
Exactly
The same guy who jumps all over WWE for anything and everything defended that move. I don’t understand why people have to treat the promotions differently. Praise what they do right and bash what they do wrong.
It pissed me off more than anything. He actuary said is the standard supposed to be if you can't make it look good don't do it! Of course that's the fucking standard!
Alvarez is a f’n dork
Most have the readership/listenership have to be more AEW inclined these days, there’s no other explanation for some of the bull shit they justify.
I gotta say, it's very soothing when Cornette says "Poof". Lol
Thank you Brian & Jim for getting this out early.
People weren’t going to be able to wait haha ua-cam.com/play/PLXmvFg4yWDda-tQRZgUyv9BmGgDnDkn8s.html
He went "poooof" LMFAO
😂😂
Jericho was right when he said the match was gonna be remembered for a long time and he was right.
We now remember that it had a shit soft happy ending.
If you're going to do shit that looks lousy and fake, then don't do the shit.
Simple.
Same with the exploding ring. Even when done “right” it looks like shit. They’re obviously not going to fucking blow someone up so whatever happens is going to be a disappointment relative to the promised explosion.
Bu-b-but i gotta get my shit in. How else will i feel cool?
Agreed
Blood & (commercial) Breaks
Cardboard & Cushions
Those PIP breaks were annoying af...they shouldn't have had them...match was good except for ending...typical AEW🙄😒
I laughed hard about the “ring explosion” I laughed even fucking harder at this. Thankfully I haven’t given AEW a single penny
Only a Corny listener could watch a commercial broadcast and proclaim they've not given AEW a penny...
Not sure you know how TV works 🤣
@@78bcat I mean it as I haven’t gotten any merch from them or tried going to any of the shows
@@callumpalmer3258 actually I do, I’m not sure you know how wrestling works, they have merch you can buy and tickets for shows and I haven’t spent any money on that stuff is what I was saying
@@MetalThrashingMan13 that's true.. although you're not giving money out your own pocket you are certainty contributing to their overall profits by watching the show. Most ads will pay by viewship rather than a fixed price.
Jim to top that match, they are gonna have an exploding ring death match with two rings, called a Electric War, Survivor Mania or something like that.
Wtf.
Just give us Christian Cage and Brian Cage vs Adam Page and Ethan Page in a Rage in a Cage match with special guest referee Diamond Dallas Page.
They are waiting for Paige to go to AEW.
Don't give them any ideas.
That sounds like something someone thought of during a massive acid trip so I wouldn't be surprised if we saw it
I have to correct Jim on that coast to coast dropkick, Shane got that from RVD.
Van Terminator
I am no longer interested in watching this from my DVR anymore after finding out about a crash pad and people being caught on camera blading like bafoons!
21:03 this does need to be brought up. They really have to improve their production and have more clean cuts.
Imagine Mick Foley getting thrown off the cell and landing on an obvious air bag. Wcw would of won the war.
Imagine all the lives Vince could have saved.. or necks and backs and brains he could have saved.
WWE has killed so many wrestlers especially in that time period.... how many did wcw kill.... crickets
Mick retired at 34 and struggles to walk in his 50's was it really worth it?
@@DayFul no
Imagine all the wwe wrestlers complaining about it being dangerous when it was fairly controlled. Oh wait that happened. I would rather they be safe than land on one inch mats.
They did good at first, decent in the middle and completely ruined the ending.
Vince McMahon showing Gronk how to fall on a crash pad was intriguing in that Vince is old and shouldn't be falling off anything onto anything. Jericho fights his nemesis, only to fall on some fluffy pillows ruined all the blood sweat and tears during the actual match. looked absurdly soft and safe and a-gain negated any bump taken earlier. well played AEW.
I feel like I personally could've produced the spot a bit better.
I used crashpads professionally in my Batman biopics, about me Batman. Chris Irvine needs to go to my acting school. Owned by me, Batman. WHERE ARE THEY? That's just one of the many lines I will teach him..
Bryan Alvarez defended the Jericho bump as being as real as it gets since he fell on cardboard boxes, which takes a lot of balls since it was not a crash pad. But he also shit on any elaborate bump that is not taken on a real crash pad as stupid. Verdict is still out on how that makes any sense. Luckily the billionaire's son sprung for cardboard boxes to keep his idiots safe instead of getting a real crash pad.
" he just went pooof"
Of course its gonna be Stadium Stampede Part 2! :D
Jim took the words right out of my mouth. Why didn't chris take the hip toss that cactus did and go through the desk.
Because he’s 50 years old & not an idiot
@@overit5893 do it right, or don't do it at all. The crash pad approach is fake as fuck.
@@supergluehotty there’s nothing wrong with him using a crash pad , it’s the fact they made it so damn obvious which for me was the problem.
No one wants jericho to fall on concrete.
1. Make it look good or dont do it.
2. Announcers shouldn't call stages concrete if its really cardboard
3. 25 years ago nash powerbombed bischoff off the stage and it looked better than this. No way a 25 yea told spot should look better than this
They should have had Tully produced the blood and guts due to him being in the first war games and booking experience of South west wresting.
dude its 2021
@@MrMarcodarko ok
Exactly I agree!
@@MrMarcodarko And your point is?
@@chadk890 he is saying that old shit dont work nowadays. He is an AEW Bucks and Omega mark. Just ignore him. He believes that whole Evolution BS that the modern idiots say
All Crash Pad Wrestling
If you surrendered the match, only for MJF to throw Jericho off anyway- wouldn't you climb up the cage to throw him off too...?
Inner circle surrendered just for one person faceplam but two members should climb up on top the cage and three members stayed on the ground just in case there is a fall from on top of the cage or 5 members should catch Jericho after MJF pushed him instead they surrendered quickly without thinking...this is logical and common sense in wrestling
A nice way to close up a Saturday Night.
They might as well had Jericovid fall on a giant whoopee cushion.
I just took a closer look at the thumbnail for this one whilst scrolling. Nice detail on Jericho's sweater.
They need hire people like jim cornette and Kevin Sullivan to book there shows and tell them the truth on when something won't work.
Jim cornette dont work in 2021
Cornette I think refused a contract from AEW
In Tony Khan's defense he did try to hire Jim but as soon as he saw the Bucks being involved he said 'Nope'
@Lujack Shaw It's evident the AEW execs hear what Jim says based on their BTE sketches but they're dug in their heels.
It's nice to go back and listen again just to remind myself that AEW is in the exact same bullshit circus spot now as they were 3 years ago.
I think they could have isolated one of the Inner Circle guys for the finish, most likely Sammy, and beat the shit out of him with the other 4 guys made to watch whilst handcuffed to the ropes until Jericho, then broken, surrenders. The loss and being unable to protect Sammy would have set Jericho into a "depression" where he breaks up the group. Some kind of, "I don't deserve to be your leader if I can't protect you" sorta thing. Sammy and Hager go do some singles stuff, and Santana and Ortiz continue to tag team. But really almost anything else would have been better than what we got.
I'm surprised nobody mentioned why the hell there was a Britt Baker squash match in this.
21:11 Is that The Sandman I hear approaching?
😂😂 We're off to never neverland
it def got boring there at the 'charge' and i was disappointed in the finish.
Thing this is bad, for some reason watching on ITV in the UK it was edited in a way that important parts of the match were missing. MJF teleported onto the top of the cage. Maybe between the US and the UK it's always edited differently, which would make sense but if so this week it was noticeable to a ridiculous level. Key parts of the match just gone, people teleporting in and out of the ring.
They went on another *BREAK*
Cornette is the Classic Smartass! Love this guy! I like how Jim RESPECTS the Wrestling Business. Old School Style! I do think Cornette needs to give AEW credit when they do something right instead of constantly berating the entire company.. It's going to be awhile before they smooth out all the screwups...
At least they didn't leave empty water bottles on the landing to bounce around.. Lol 😂 😂😂
After JC talked a bit about how to finish this...not sure if this works on all levels but:
Tully opens the cage door, MJF out and starts to go up, Jericho follows him but Tully slams the door on Jericho and he sort of half falls onto the edge of the ring, MJF sees this, comes back down pulls him completely down on the floor, Tully relocks the door and MJF takes the ring and begins to wail on Jericho who surrenders while his team has continued to beat up the Pinnacle in the ring. So you have inner circle actually "winning" in the ring but their leader surrenders trying to save his own skin.
I liked the match but God damned if Corny ain't right about choking somebody with a BAT!!!
LOLz
Still more believable than the idiotic "gut shot" with one hand cupped over the end of the bat for maximum shock absorption and harmlessness...
and yes when i saw the match i laughed my arse off especially when i saw the ending
The only thing missing was as Jericho laid there, we hear: "TONY KHAN HAS BOOKED MJF vs. JERICHO NEXT WEEK FOLKS!!!"
Been waiting all day for this LOL
how sad are you
Mjf's push probably hurt jericho more than the actual fall. Lol!
That's funny. 😂
The crash pad bean bag spot was fucking horrendous, I almost had to buy another tv
Vary hard for me to disagree with what corny said, as a AEW fan I thought the end was very anticlimactic and disappointing, I saw them talking to each other and I thought God dam guys the camara guy fucked up with the angle great match terrible ending
Camera production crew are former TNA guys. That says it all TNA.
''I didn't know they had prisons in Canada'' lol
The Dinner Circle is funny af 😂
Stony mountain penitentiary is at Stony Mountain Manitoba it’s one of the biggest prisons in Manitoba
Needless to say this was the most embarrassing cage match in the history of wrestling. Absolutely shameful the amount of botches, the camera's showing them blading non stop, even Jericho and co showing the razors and blading each other. The even more cringe was the ending on the cardboard and crash mat. Once again AEWCWWETNA Lite exposes and destroys the legacy of wrestling. I mean my god you've Arn, Tully, Dustin and more who all did War Games and are veterans of it and this is the garbage they produce??
You could literally hear the beanbag sound effect when Jericho landed. They have gotta improve how they do these big finishes. Two massive clusters in a row on big stipulation main events. It's embarrassing.
I was waiting for this one LMFAOO
Me too broda😂
Just like WCW they mess up a PPV with a bad ending. The problem is the camera showed it that's the big problem
@Dorian Arnold doesn't matter free if it was free or not it was terrible ending
Jericho looked like he put in his two weeks notice but knew he wasn't going to show up anymore.
Remember Jim Cornettes bump off the scaffolding?? Vince Russo is sorry about that.
I enjoyed it
Jericho deserves a ton of heat. He got caught doing so many things on camera: getting the blade out, tapping MJF’s leg to get the nut shot, & the one eyed looks/talking after the crash pad bump. He ruined this match.
They didn't have to show the bump. They could have had Sammy push off the cage, the inner circle goes and checks on Jericho and just ended it with Sammy standing on top of the cage with all the blood.
As for the filming problems. You have to have a very experienced person in the truck or people in the truck calling out camera shots becuase it's hard to follow all that chaos around.
I'm gonna sound like a parrot here.
The Stadium Stampede match should have been here. That way, the breaks would have been tolerated. They could have saved the big throw for the PPV.
If having the heels win was the goal, they should have introduced a new member of the pinnacle. Some big monster guy who comes in and rips the cage door off and help make Jericho tap to MJF’s arm bar. Or have a traitor on the inner circle team.
The camera crew fucked it all up.
I think that in Tony Khan's mind the only way to top that mattress bump finish will be for next time all 5 of a War Games team go off the top of the cage and land in perfect sitting positions on a large and carefully placed three piece suite hidden below the floor covering!
Undertaker and Rikishi at Armageddon 2000 made it look better than Jericho and MJF.
We were all looking forward to this.
Love Jim as the Terminator.
It was a comedy show whenever both teams was standing on the opposite ends of the different rings and then when they went to collide they realize that they had to step through the ropes first because they were standing in separate rings
Prisons in Canada Jimmy? This guy, who loves to tell the story about the Canadian who blew up a police station, has trouble seeing prisons in Canada? Granted, that particular Canadian inexplicably got off, but my assumption is that police stations lead to jails, which lead to prisons systems.
Forget the final 3 minutes of the show. AEW put on the most authentic War Games match we have seen since WCW went under. It was clunky at times but that is what happens when you put 10 people in the same match like this. This has Cody's fingerprints all over it considering War Games was his dad's creation.
😂🤣 good one
Lol
This has to be a Tony Khan burner account 😂
Eww, who knows where Cody's fingers have been
@@darrengordon-hill up his own arse to expel so of that fine aroma to inhale
Shane o Mac coast to coast. No no no Mr cornette that is RVD's move (I forgot the original name)
Just like with the Sparklers at Revolution, The only thing people will remember about this match. Jericho falling into a bunch of cardboard and a crashpad. Had they used better camera angles it might not have been bad, but sadly once again the Money Mark blew it. It also doesn't help that the commentary should it like death like Jericho took a massive bump. Hell Shane and Vince have taken worse bump and they are older and WWE made it looks good. Presentation is everything. Sadly, Meltzer ate this match up include the botches and unprotected chair shots, and rated it as good or better than Roman/Bryan's match on Smackdown, but again Uncle Dave will never give WWE a 5-star match again.
The bad guys also won when NWO beat the Horseman when Hennig turned on Flair, ending pretty much the same way this ended (someone say I quit or I'm gonna hurt this guy; Ok I quit, Yay we win, now I'm gonna hurt this guy anyway).
I disliked the bringing of weapons into the cells. Tearing up the ring was ridiculous. Why would MJF have a submission hold on then for no reason let it go?
It was bad long before the bump at the end. Obviously AEW needs to stop looking for the big finish, it never works out.
Aew needs to learn how to finish
They should have just changed the camera angle, it would have looked way better
Most of the guys worked their asses off. Also, they even did Jericho a disservice with the cameras to be honest, as he did some spots but, it looked like he got blown up for no reason, which wasn't the case, though he doesn't exactly have the most stamina of anyone in the match, to say the least. This is a hard match to catch every bit of, but they missed some cool stuff on air.
Guevara really stood out here. Both of FTR were tremendous, Santana and Ortiz brought great energy. Spears was fine, though I will always say his facial expressions look too "kind" after he does something heinous. The ending, yeah...protect Jericho for sure, but don't make it so obvious.
Yes I've been waiting for this review all day.
"They raised the roof,. Just not with the people on this one" - Jim Cornette
😂😂
Lol 😅😅
Booker T raised the roof better. Now can you dig that Maska!!!!!!
Dude needs to go back and listen how explosive the crowd was then.
Look, I'm not expecting Jericho to be thrown off the cage and land on a table like Mankind did. However, AEW either could've made the crash pad look more believable or have the camera crew use angles that don't make it look so obvious.
Or don't have a 50 year old guy take that kind of spot?
AEWs production has been terrible since day one.
Production crew needs to do better.
It was a stupid idea from the beginning. Jericho is beyond pathetic at this point. He has tarnished his legacy and destroyed his credibility. The point is, don't do the spot if you aren't going to make it as real as possible. If you can't do it like mankind, DON'T DO IT AT ALL!
That was my criticism of this. The fact they made it so blantantly obvious is what many of us had a problem with.
Guevara vs Dax was largely the best of it.
When Shane McMahon jumped off the cell at Wrestlemania he landed on the table with a small crash pad under it, not only was it more subtle but also the table added a sound effect unlike those cardboards, or even when 74 years old Vince McMahon showed Rob Gronkowski how to jump off the balcony looked more brutal than that
Keith Mitchell failed aew again
There’s a reason WWE has rehearsals for Wrestlemania
The modern Hell in the Cell cage is like 20’ tall (the one from 97 was 16’ I think)
Didn't he just take a full back bump off the top of the cage in THIS just past WM?
You already know how he feels just by the time frame alone
He actually gave it a good review mostly besides the ending
@@gullyblanchard5750 exactly i thought he would be more angry when they ripped apart the ring and did the piledrivers on the wood or when Shawn Spears was un-screwing the middle rope turnbuckle and tried to use it as a weapon...God that spot was so cringe when i think back on it.
Talk about indie garbage ga-ga as Corny would call it
Makes me think of what Maffew from Botchamania said. Jericho is doing a Rikishi gimmick, bloating up to 400lbs & falling off a cage.
He did it for the Rock
Botchamania is no more apparently
@@Emporkommling He did it for the Rock's pancakes
@@blueweegie6541 seriously?!
@@kant5696 so people are saying
"Bank addicted drug robber" is getting worked into my daily life one way or another.
🤣🤣
😂😂
Amazing!! LOL! I liked that line too! :)
Ok you heard it too..
@@MikeDijital Whats your point?
Anyway... The pinnacle and the Dinner circle..... Off to a great start 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
*The Pineapple
Dinner Circle...Dinner Debonair... Fits perfect.
@@DarkNorthEmperor lmfaoo
😂😂💀
@@darrengordon-hill qqp1
"Thank God. They had blood in a cage match" - Jim Cornette
Yeah, alot of it.
A shame that it's a rare thing these days. The hell is the point of being in a cage if there's no blood?
Exactly why I don't watch WWE cage matches lol
@@aluminumsalmongames6277 in all fairness Eddie in 2005 had a solid cage match with Rey on smackdown without blood. Including even one with Jbl also without blood. Then Owen and Bret had a great cage match without blood too. However I more than understand why even then those matches would have been better with some color.
@@Leftturnaddict But it's a cage match it's for drama, not workrate.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they turned it into a storyline.
"They put a crash pad there just in case their leader lost".
Oh my god, you’re right. They would probably find it funny 😞
lol... I can totally see that. Their best approach would be to just not ever bring it up or show it again and move on.
@@BlackBearNE if they don’t acknowledge it at all I’d be disappointed lol
That be terrible and so unbelievable
Wny would they surrender in that case?
People blading, people holding blades, people talking to each other. 💀😭
A lot of the is bad production. They damn near zoom in on blading and talking.
Lol facts aew is low budget
So glad somebody else mentioned this
Its indie wrestling with a big budget, how have people not realized that by now?
@@el-youtub3r402 indi wrestler who stop out of high school
This match was like being on drugs and watching a movie about space . The top of the cage ruined it completely😂. Jericho just fell into inflated pillows .Jim and Brian are spot on .
It made me feel bad for the actual guys that worked their asses off. Even Wardlow and Hager who are green af at least tried hard and Jericho at this point should just stop, maybe be a manager he cuts good promos but let other people wrestle.
Hager has been around for over a decade, the green excuse doesn’t work
@Max the Maltese dog, Yeah, like in NONE of the WarGames matches did the fans EVER SEE DUSTY & FLAIR ON TOP OF THE CAGE.
Chris Jericho - We’ve started having more production meetings before Dynamite so that the same spots aren’t repeated throughout the show
Also Chris Jericho - man, Sting looks so cool when he pulls out his signature bat, I want a baseball bat to be my signature weapon too!!!
"Darby's getting thrown off a high surface? Sounds cool!"
The pad they've done multiple times , the phony arcade machines, the failed pyro in the deathmatch..this is such a hokey ass company
100% agreed.
@James Khan's a clown who CLEARLY doesn't know what he's doing as it relates to booking & production.
The worse thing about this is they have seasoned vets that know the correct way of doing things on they're crew and they still mess it up!!!
I just posted some words to the same effect before I read yours. 😉
Your statement applies to everything AEW has done. I'm just astounded that when you have the likes of Arn, Tully, JR, Daniels, Dustin, FTR, Jerry Lynn, Malenko, etc. that we still see all the amateur bullshit and bad booking.
@@joshuabrown5123 its coz of tony "nobody books my show but me" khan.
Its clear that no one listens to the veterans.
I’m from Winnipeg. I can assure you that we have no mountains, however stony mountain penitentiary is very real. A tough prison. There is a hill nearby where people learn how to snowboard in the winter.
Sure act like there's internet in Winnipeg
@@deniscore8270 we are still using dial up and it only connects after midnight
Just want to say as an STL Blues fan, I’m SO happy the NHL is back in Winnipeg, and elated that they still call them the Jets.
I’ve still got an old Jets Selanne and Tikkanen jersey around the house somewhere.
This 32 minute video is the real main event
For boomers yeah.
@@tylerdurden6060 Are 25-year olds boomers? lol
@@tylerdurden6060 how is 20 yr old a boomer?..... And If AEW is what your generation likes then I rather be a boomer
@@toxiciwctweets5191 complaining abt how todays products suck and they were better at the old times , the thing cornette does. Thats what you call a boomer. It doesn't mean a age.
@@tylerdurden6060 The current product does suck and old product was great is the universal truth 🙄
“Booker of the year”
Soon to be back 2 back
That’s just because it’s voted on by meltzer and his fans. Anyone can see khan has no idea what he’s doing when it comes to booking. He just gets in his own way. He needs to step aside and allow professionals in there before it’s to late.
@ David Ruberto: Obviously
Jerhico was blown up very early, I thought he would never make it to the top of the cage
I think that is why the end happened the way it did. Looks like they rushed the ending by about a minute or so.
Couldn’t agree more. So sad ua-cam.com/play/PLXmvFg4yWDda-tQRZgUyv9BmGgDnDkn8s.html
@@TheForeverRanger yea he fucked everything up cause he can't fucking move
He was doing it slow because he knew they were in a commercial break. As soon as they came back he got the signal and climbed as Excalibur commentated on it. Just trying to keep things honest round here
The Ding-Dong Diet will do that to a man...
One eye open,gripping his pillow tight.🤣🤣
Exit skills, enter bubbly.
Exit Light Cosplay
Hush little sami, don't say a word.
And never mind the bumps you've took.
@@DarkNorthEmperor it's just beast under your bed... in your closet... in your head...🤣😅
And his blade when he was on top of the cage too
The blow off match from this will be MJF vs Sammy in a one fall singles match.
To be fair wwe did this too with randy and cena. Months of stipulation matches to end it all with a “pure wrestling match” lmao
Naah apparently the feud is not over
They Ripped of WWF angle today
12:31 - Guevara did the RVD Van-Terminator drop-kick on the chair. (Fixed it for ya, Jim)
E C dub! E C dub! E C dub!
This could have been an interesting way to disband the Inner Circle if they wanted. Have the Inner Circle members say screw it and go for the win even if it means Jericho dropping. Jericho returns weeks later pissed at them an just leaves dissolving the group(for now) and Pinnacle get the push as the group that broke The Inner Circle.
I like nxt wargames. Aew should stop it
Girls did it.
It's dead now.
Staph infections are one of the main reasons you don’t see a lot of blood. Open wounds in an environment teaming with bacteria is no bueno. Undertaker almost lost his arm to an infection just because he sliced it open during a match.
No it’s not. It’s because wwe is pg.
They didn't even have to show Jericho land, they could've flashed away but we know Jericho wanted the image of him falling and hitting the obvious target. The bump could've been pretty sweet if you just zoomed in after he fell on Sammy's face or MJFs showing the difference in their emotions. Sammy fearful and MJF smirking after the fact would've been better then 5 minutes of Jericho falling and landing ridiculously