This was a great video. You guys mentioned that new hat owners don’t know how to take care of their hats but I would say lots of people don’t know. I’ve worn hats my whole life and learned some new things today so thank you for this video. There is so much misinformation from the internet. So many people think they have all the answers but in reality they don’t have any answers. Jobe, you said that even high X hats have rabbit in them. My daily winter hat is a Rodeo King 100X that says “100X Pure Beaver” on the sweatband. Are you saying that isn’t true?
Same thing happens with bicycle helmets. My town had a dorky mayor who did a bicycle safety video and his helmet was on backwards the whole time😂 All of us bike shop owners were in hysterics about it for weeks.
@@stevepauley2437 because I think half the country stars aren't really country. Like rappers that talk gangster but actually aren't. Just my opinion they may be country but they just wear the hat for looks. Nothing wrong with it just make sure it's correct when you do it
Chap leather works really great to downsize a hat. It sits in place well and keeps the overall feel of the headband. I cut a 1.5" wide piece that is about 6" long....maybe a few? To make my hats larger, I steam them well and set it on my head until it cools. It might take a couple times of doing this to develop a new "memory".
Next time I’m in the ft worth area I need to come see you guys I need to get a new hat my 200x has bad sweat stains so I know the hat is bad and doubt it can be cleaned out so maybe a new hat may be in order
Great video I'm glad I watched it and learning a lot. I served in the 3rd Cav in Ft Bliss TX way back in the day. I wear a stetson now that's dressed out plus I've added more pins to it. Does your store dress out the stetson for the Calvary look?
Y'all make some nice videos. I'm old - actual Boomer - and I'm on a horse daily as we own a small horse farm. I actually like the way some straw hats feel, but I don't have much luck with them. We get quite a bit of rain at times and a straw is just not much protection and the rain seem to destroy them quickly. I'm actually cheap and even though my least expensive hat is probably 1; I consider a felt hat a much better value than straw. All of my hats are 100% beaver or beaver belly and they are SO much better in the rain (and snow during winter). I do have to clean them as you reference, and occasionally I use my wife's steamer (for clothes - It's a big machine with a hose and attachments kept in her laundry room). However I don't have to replace my felt hats - even when they get stepped on by a horse, I can send it back to my maker or the manufacturer and they can make it look like new. I find straw hats last a short while and can easily get messed up - and heck 4-5 straws equal the price of a cheap felt. I've actually had some folks ask why I'm not following the 'seasons' for hat wearing...HAHAHA - I usually respond that seasons are for my wife and her purses not a man's hat. Honestly till I saw this video I wasn't aware that folks had a season for hats - for men anyway - but as I said I'm old. Again, you guys have some great info and I actually subscribed to your channel.
Thanks for watching and commenting, it helps a lot. I love my all beaver hats, it my preference. I will never get the full benefit of all beaver because I’m hot that hard on my hats, but they hold their shape much longer and are easier to take care of. People love to follow the seasons and I don’t get it myself. The real truth is felt is the most appropriate and most formal option, straw “season” just means it’s appropriately warm enough to wear straw. I wear a felt till it gets over 90° consistently, but I still wear felt if I’m going to be inside or shooting a video.
I have a black Stetson "George Strait" edition, it's about 3 years old now & I wear it every day. I shape it myself, clean it myself too. The problem I'm having is where I grab it to take it off, the felt gets matted with oils, and the hat cleaner won't lift that out of the fibers. When it gets bad, I've resorted to a tiny brass bristle brush, just on the greasy areas. This is pretty aggressive, but it does work. I do fear that with such aggressive cleanings with a brass brush, I'm going to damage it over time, but so far, I've not found anything else to clean it up. Any suggestions that aren't so aggressive?
@@MountainsoftheHeart check out our Amazon lists, there’s a few items available there. We are working to get more on our website. Check out this page from cowboy_cartel_group www.amazon.com/shop/cowboy_cartel_group?ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_aipsfshop_ZZ0Z3H085E34PAT7GZ3R&language=en_US
Atwood has been a hat I watched for a while. I like the story and fact they publish their blends. I don’t like they are making their straws in Mexico and are way overpriced for Mexican straw. but they make a descent hat
I got a slate and a black hat, would i need 2 brushes for those or would the transfer of dust be negligable? The slate is a 7x rodeo king and the black a 30x wrangler. Great video btw 😊
In my opinion the colors are close enough. You are good with one brush. I use the same brush and don’t have any issues. Thanks for watching and the comment
Good question, I have used a sponge on those in the past and it works really well. I will see if there are any other suggestions. Thanks for the comment.
Jobe has some hat racks in store that are pretty nice, anything that holds it crown up are going to be best in my opinion. I use Mark Christopher Collection crown up racks. they are made in the USA and work great.
It is not safe. And your skin has enough oil to condition. At some point you may need to replace the sweat. I think it’s in our video with Andy he goes through a sweat band every year or two. Some people just have a different reaction with hats. All mine look new inside, and I wear a hat 90% of the time I leave the house. Conor can trash a hat in a month.
That’s about 4 sizes and if you could get it stretched that much, something is going to break, most likely the sweat band and the hat band. These tips are more for a hat that once fit comfortably and shrunk over time to poor maintenance. Your best bet is to sell it and replace it.
@@CowboyCartel thank you so much! It hurts because I got it for only 50 bucks and I don't have the means to get another one that nice. Maybe it'll bless someone else though.
I would advise against using tape!!! I had a seamstress explain and show me using tape tends to leave a bit of residue behind and then things will stick faster to it. Best to just stick with a good brush or a damp cloth even.
I bought a couple of 5“ x 2“ rectangles of a very porous orange foam from a hat store years ago. They were made for cleaning hats. I got one for dark hats and one for light hats. I use them dry and brush (not rub) with them. Between those chunks of foam and a horse hair brush, I don’t do anything else to my hats. They never get dirty, just dusty, so I guess it’s kind of a very light duty cleaning.
I guess I’m an old guy now and things have changed. When I was younger 100 X hat was something we never saw but knew it was out there. That was 100% beaver. I finally found one of your videos that told me what a 1000 X is. Is there a video that is totally dedicated to telling us what the various X designations mean. And which of the major companies use which grading system. It seems there is not an industry standard.
I appreciate the fact that you saw my comment, but I’d like an answer is there a video dedicated to explaining what the X system is. I understand if it’s not standardized from manufacturer to manufacture, that could be impossible. How about a video like I’m describing dedicated strictly to American, or rodeo king? those appear to be the two lines that you concentrate most on. Thanks.
There is not an industry standard which is one of my biggest complaints. I spent months just trying to decipher the code for American Hat Co but it seems pretty close to an industry standard. The idea is one percent beaver per X starting at 6x… however anything 6x to 10x is pretty much an all rabbit hat. I don’t know if they are lying when they put beaver on the sweat or if they genuinely put 6-10% beaver in the hat. I just call it an all rabbit hat. 20x is about where you see true beaver percentages. 100-200x is all beaver with different blends of quality beaver hair and finishing. American has some of the best finishing of any hat in the large scale production and a lot of even custom hats. 500x is all beaver belly and 1000x will be more for feel and look. It will be beaver belly blended with some exotic hair used for feel. Mink for American. You also usually get solid gold and real jewels in the buckle set. Thanks for watching
When using tape, does it remove more than just dirt, pet hair, and fuzz, meaning does it remove hair from the hat itself, such as what was used to make the hat?
@@GalvezQbWhen Jobe mentioned the different types of tape, I thought about duct tape and noticed he didn't mention duct tape. Thought maybe duct tape would be too aggressive.
Its not going to take anything off that wouldn't have come off on its own. If its on there loose enough for tape to pull it off its not really part of the structure of the hat. like we said when talking about sanding, there is a ton of fiber in that hat that is compressed, when you start sanding you can quickly have what looks like a second hat on the floor. most of what comes off with tape is dust.
Stetson uses a black powder on their hats ...they told me this after I noticed on my new black skyline it was coming off if I rubbed it. I have no idea why they would do this.
Generally, powder is applied to white of all factor and silverbelly of lower quality. I have seen black powder on hats, but that’s dust from sanding the hat and can last a long time, especially if it’s not worn often. It’s also the reason you see water spots a lot of times. The water washes the sanding dust away and the hat just needs to be brushed more often. Thanks for watching, and the comment.
Cowboy hats are kind of ridiculous. There’s no reason to wear a hat that big… I’ve lived in Texas my entire life and never understood why anyone would want to walk around with a giant hat on their head.
This video is amazing. I watch every video with you two in it. You guys have a great dynamic
Thank you for the kind words, I’m glad you enjoy it. Thanks for watching.
Great informational video Joe & Jobe! Thanks Guys.
Great video with a lot of fantastic information, thanks boys!
Great video. Thanks for all the information.
This was a great video. You guys mentioned that new hat owners don’t know how to take care of their hats but I would say lots of people don’t know. I’ve worn hats my whole life and learned some new things today so thank you for this video. There is so much misinformation from the internet. So many people think they have all the answers but in reality they don’t have any answers. Jobe, you said that even high X hats have rabbit in them. My daily winter hat is a Rodeo King 100X that says “100X Pure Beaver” on the sweatband. Are you saying that isn’t true?
As far as people not knowing the front from the back, I’ve seen interviews, of more than one country music “star”, that had their hat on backwards.😂😂
I have told several stories about that on the podcast. Maybe with Chad or Conor
Same thing happens with bicycle helmets. My town had a dorky mayor who did a bicycle safety video and his helmet was on backwards the whole time😂 All of us bike shop owners were in hysterics about it for weeks.
@@stevepauley2437 because I think half the country stars aren't really country. Like rappers that talk gangster but actually aren't. Just my opinion they may be country but they just wear the hat for looks. Nothing wrong with it just make sure it's correct when you do it
Thanks for all the care details
Thanks for watching!
Great hat 🤠🙋🇹🇩
Such a great video! I learned so much. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
Chap leather works really great to downsize a hat.
It sits in place well and keeps the overall feel of the headband.
I cut a 1.5" wide piece that is about 6" long....maybe a few?
To make my hats larger, I steam them well and set it on my head until it cools. It might take a couple times of doing this to develop a new "memory".
Next time I’m in the ft worth area I need to come see you guys I need to get a new hat my 200x has bad sweat stains so I know the hat is bad and doubt it can be cleaned out so maybe a new hat may be in order
Great video I'm glad I watched it and learning a lot. I served in the 3rd Cav in Ft Bliss TX way back in the day. I wear a stetson now that's dressed out plus I've added more pins to it. Does your store dress out the stetson for the Calvary look?
How do you clean your hat liner?
The best hat video ❤
@@DrDennis glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Would be great if you 2 would make a shaping video tutorial showing how to make the different styles etcetera
Conor and I are working on a shaping video, it will be for retail customers but we will see. Thanks
@@CowboyCartelMaybe an overview of each shape, the history, and where/when/why/how they’re usually worn too would be great!
Y'all make some nice videos. I'm old - actual Boomer - and I'm on a horse daily as we own a small horse farm. I actually like the way some straw hats feel, but I don't have much luck with them. We get quite a bit of rain at times and a straw is just not much protection and the rain seem to destroy them quickly.
I'm actually cheap and even though my least expensive hat is probably 1; I consider a felt hat a much better value than straw. All of my hats are 100% beaver or beaver belly and they are SO much better in the rain (and snow during winter). I do have to clean them as you reference, and occasionally I use my wife's steamer (for clothes - It's a big machine with a hose and attachments kept in her laundry room). However I don't have to replace my felt hats - even when they get stepped on by a horse, I can send it back to my maker or the manufacturer and they can make it look like new. I find straw hats last a short while and can easily get messed up - and heck 4-5 straws equal the price of a cheap felt.
I've actually had some folks ask why I'm not following the 'seasons' for hat wearing...HAHAHA - I usually respond that seasons are for my wife and her purses not a man's hat. Honestly till I saw this video I wasn't aware that folks had a season for hats - for men anyway - but as I said I'm old. Again, you guys have some great info and I actually subscribed to your channel.
Thanks for watching and commenting, it helps a lot. I love my all beaver hats, it my preference. I will never get the full benefit of all beaver because I’m hot that hard on my hats, but they hold their shape much longer and are easier to take care of. People love to follow the seasons and I don’t get it myself. The real truth is felt is the most appropriate and most formal option, straw “season” just means it’s appropriately warm enough to wear straw. I wear a felt till it gets over 90° consistently, but I still wear felt if I’m going to be inside or shooting a video.
Very cool
I have a black Stetson "George Strait" edition, it's about 3 years old now & I wear it every day. I shape it myself, clean it myself too.
The problem I'm having is where I grab it to take it off, the felt gets matted with oils, and the hat cleaner won't lift that out of the fibers.
When it gets bad, I've resorted to a tiny brass bristle brush, just on the greasy areas. This is pretty aggressive, but it does work.
I do fear that with such aggressive cleanings with a brass brush, I'm going to damage it over time, but so far, I've not found anything else to clean it up.
Any suggestions that aren't so aggressive?
@@atheplummer we use sandpaper. And with sanding, you will wear through the hat after years of use. 250 grit should do it.
Do you have a link where I can purchase the cleaning spray and brushes? Or What manufacturer/brand do you recommend?
@@MountainsoftheHeart check out our Amazon lists, there’s a few items available there. We are working to get more on our website. Check out this page from cowboy_cartel_group www.amazon.com/shop/cowboy_cartel_group?ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_aipsfshop_ZZ0Z3H085E34PAT7GZ3R&language=en_US
Do you guys recommend the hat protector spray? I think twister and scout has them
No. I have never seen a need for it.
3:32 LMAO his look to camera
We just moved to east Tx from Austin and started to hear about Atwood's in Frankston. Do you ever get out this way or know about them?
Atwood has been a hat I watched for a while. I like the story and fact they publish their blends. I don’t like they are making their straws in Mexico and are way overpriced for Mexican straw. but they make a descent hat
I got a slate and a black hat, would i need 2 brushes for those or would the transfer of dust be negligable? The slate is a 7x rodeo king and the black a 30x wrangler.
Great video btw 😊
In my opinion the colors are close enough. You are good with one brush. I use the same brush and don’t have any issues. Thanks for watching and the comment
I defiantly like that Safire color
How do I clean grizzly fur felt?
Good question, I have used a sponge on those in the past and it works really well. I will see if there are any other suggestions. Thanks for the comment.
@@CowboyCartelShould I keep it covered in plastic it came with? it’s a 10x grizzly tacchino brand hat steel color.
Don’t store it in the plastic, it can trap moisture and lead you to mold
@@CowboyCartelthank you
So what's the best decorative cowboy hat rack to use that won't mess up the shape of my hat? And does Jobe sale those in his store?
Jobe has some hat racks in store that are pretty nice, anything that holds it crown up are going to be best in my opinion. I use Mark Christopher Collection crown up racks. they are made in the USA and work great.
@@CowboyCartelthanks for your help
Dose the same cleaning method work on wool or is more on felt. I own more wool hats then felt?
Would it be considered “safe” to use a leather conditioner, on the sweatband, or is it not really needed?
It is not safe. And your skin has enough oil to condition. At some point you may need to replace the sweat. I think it’s in our video with Andy he goes through a sweat band every year or two. Some people just have a different reaction with hats. All mine look new inside, and I wear a hat 90% of the time I leave the house. Conor can trash a hat in a month.
What kind of hat shape and brim does jobe have ?
I believe its a 9 inch wide JB
Is steel considered a light color or a dark color?
It’s a dark color. Light are going to be white, silver sand, silverbelly, bone. Thanks for watching, and the comments.
Is there a way to re color a black hat that the color has faded
I got a 100x that's a 7. I wear a 7 1/2. Can this be stretched?
That’s about 4 sizes and if you could get it stretched that much, something is going to break, most likely the sweat band and the hat band. These tips are more for a hat that once fit comfortably and shrunk over time to poor maintenance. Your best bet is to sell it and replace it.
@@CowboyCartel thank you so much! It hurts because I got it for only 50 bucks and I don't have the means to get another one that nice.
Maybe it'll bless someone else though.
I would advise against using tape!!! I had a seamstress explain and show me using tape tends to leave a bit of residue behind and then things will stick faster to it.
Best to just stick with a good brush or a damp cloth even.
I bought a couple of 5“ x 2“ rectangles of a very porous orange foam from a hat store years ago. They were made for cleaning hats. I got one for dark hats and one for light hats. I use them dry and brush (not rub) with them. Between those chunks of foam and a horse hair brush, I don’t do anything else to my hats. They never get dirty, just dusty, so I guess it’s kind of a very light duty cleaning.
I guess I’m an old guy now and things have changed. When I was younger 100 X hat was something we never saw but knew it was out there. That was 100% beaver. I finally found one of your videos that told me what a 1000 X is. Is there a video that is totally dedicated to telling us what the various X designations mean. And which of the major companies use which grading system. It seems there is not an industry standard.
I appreciate the fact that you saw my comment, but I’d like an answer is there a video dedicated to explaining what the X system is. I understand if it’s not standardized from manufacturer to manufacture, that could be impossible. How about a video like I’m describing dedicated strictly to American, or rodeo king? those appear to be the two lines that you concentrate most on. Thanks.
There is not an industry standard which is one of my biggest complaints. I spent months just trying to decipher the code for American Hat Co but it seems pretty close to an industry standard. The idea is one percent beaver per X starting at 6x… however anything 6x to 10x is pretty much an all rabbit hat. I don’t know if they are lying when they put beaver on the sweat or if they genuinely put 6-10% beaver in the hat. I just call it an all rabbit hat. 20x is about where you see true beaver percentages. 100-200x is all beaver with different blends of quality beaver hair and finishing. American has some of the best finishing of any hat in the large scale production and a lot of even custom hats. 500x is all beaver belly and 1000x will be more for feel and look. It will be beaver belly blended with some exotic hair used for feel. Mink for American. You also usually get solid gold and real jewels in the buckle set. Thanks for watching
@@CowboyCartel Thanks for your time and for the information. Very interesting. 👍🏻🤠
Why do parts of the video get blacked out?
Should be just one part. It was an editing mistake.
@@CowboyCartelgreat video by the way! Lots of valuable information on this and the straw video! Always learn something new!
When using tape, does it remove more than just dirt, pet hair, and fuzz, meaning does it remove hair from the hat itself, such as what was used to make the hat?
I think so but I dont think it affects the hat
I think duct tape is an old school way. I prefer to use a lent roller.
@@FriendtoallanimalsThank you!
@@GalvezQbWhen Jobe mentioned the different types of tape, I thought about duct tape and noticed he didn't mention duct tape. Thought maybe duct tape would be too aggressive.
Its not going to take anything off that wouldn't have come off on its own. If its on there loose enough for tape to pull it off its not really part of the structure of the hat. like we said when talking about sanding, there is a ton of fiber in that hat that is compressed, when you start sanding you can quickly have what looks like a second hat on the floor. most of what comes off with tape is dust.
Stetson uses a black powder on their hats ...they told me this after I noticed on my new black skyline it was coming off if I rubbed it. I have no idea why they would do this.
Generally, powder is applied to white of all factor and silverbelly of lower quality. I have seen black powder on hats, but that’s dust from sanding the hat and can last a long time, especially if it’s not worn often. It’s also the reason you see water spots a lot of times. The water washes the sanding dust away and the hat just needs to be brushed more often. Thanks for watching, and the comment.
What hat are you wearing looks nice?
@@elplebe11000 thanks. It’s a 500x American steel.
👍🏻 video
I've got a 1000x made by Bigger and has never fit as it should have fit
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I have a old resistol, rain, snow, rodeo mud everything including dirt in Iraq from my Marine days. I don't think she's ever been truly cleaned.
All you need is the same thing people have been using for 200 years... a brush, period!
Thanks for the engagement
I want that hat now that you8 cut the wire
Cowboy hats are kind of ridiculous. There’s no reason to wear a hat that big… I’ve lived in Texas my entire life and never understood why anyone would want to walk around with a giant hat on their head.
Leaving this location
Using tape is a terrible idea
@@dtx1139 it’s industry standard.
Wool is course but there is different technique u can use to make them Finner
Wool is different
Cleaning u can't do that with the spray bad way your setting the dirt into the hat
Or mist greys
Cleaning u can't do that with the spray
Baby wipes have an oil so please don't use on silver belly
That's over stock put the hats that don't sell on sale
Wrong way to do it